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Old School BMX 1980 - 1988 => Old School Freestyle (frame stands and kickturns galore!) => Topic started by: gayboy on May 27, 2006, 08:09 PM
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is street bmx=anti social riding?
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only if you ride through wolverhampton wearing a sandwich board like the one in die hard 3
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is street bmx=anti social riding?
NO not at all my mates Asbo Dave, Alan the Hoody and Jack the Knife or Happy Slapper as his close mates call him all reckon street bmx is the way forward ;)
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staying in the house watching tv is anti social!! kick ass on the street, but keep it new school. old bikes struggle with street abuse. street, trials or track its all bmx, just do it :daumenhoch:
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The local street riders here are being threatened with losing their bikes if they keep it up. The council and police are on their case it seems.
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street will always be underlying in bmx
its always there. always has, and always will be
the basis of street is flatland with obstacles
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street will always be underlying in bmx
its always there. always has, and always will be
the basis of street is flatland with obstacles
Boll@x!!!!! What are you on about Gray???? Street riding is a way of riding all of its own, got nothing to do with flatland!!!! Chainring grinds and handrail slides, when did they feature in anyones flatland routine???? I used to ride street a lot BITD and ride street as much as i can now, i love it but never do you see me intergrating any flatland in what i do or anyone else for thet matter. Next time i come to Bones we'll go out and find a nice street spot after its finished and i'll show you street riding hows that.?
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street will always be underlying in bmx
its always there. always has, and always will be
the basis of street is flatland with obstacles
Boll@x!!!!! What are you on about Gray???? Street riding is a way of riding all of its own, got nothing to do with flatland!!!! Chainring grinds and handrail slides, when did they feature in anyones flatland routine???? I used to ride street a lot BITD and ride street as much as i can now, i love it but never do you see me intergrating any flatland in what i do or anyone else for thet matter. Next time i come to Bones we'll go out and find a nice street spot after its finished and i'll show you street riding hows that.?
get you radhab ;D ;D street did originate from the old style of flatland (freestyle) as we called it back then,,I saw it happen but they are now two different things almost different sports. Must bring my handbag to bones ;D
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street will always be underlying in bmx
its always there. always has, and always will be
the basis of street is flatland with obstacles
Boll@x!!!!! What are you on about Gray???? Street riding is a way of riding all of its own, got nothing to do with flatland!!!! Chainring grinds and handrail slides, when did they feature in anyones flatland routine???? I used to ride street a lot BITD and ride street as much as i can now, i love it but never do you see me intergrating any flatland in what i do or anyone else for thet matter. Next time i come to Bones we'll go out and find a nice street spot after its finished and i'll show you street riding hows that.?
get you radhab ;D ;D street did originate from the old style of flatland (freestyle) as we called it back then,,
Give me a really good example, bearing in mind i was around then as well.
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the wheelie / manual
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all the bob haro freestye book has been taken to the street ,360 a set of stairs bunnyhop everything its just evolved you must be able to see it :P
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lol and street riding has been around a lot longer than people have been doing grinds!
think more along the lines of hopping onto a block, do a tailwhip and hop off
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the wheelie / manual
Does that mean that vert riding came from flatland as well????? What a load of cobblers!
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I agree everything evolved from one trick but its a brave thing to say that Street riding came from Flatland alone Gray! I ride street hard and did back then and i dont use any flatland stuff in what i do, its not just about grinds there are loads of tricks and bits i do, different street spots demand different variations of street riding..........Wheel balance to wallride!! i dont think so.
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I know its true but you can have your own opinion . Ask Tabron about the vert thing as he rode old school freestyle everyday when he was a kid and I know that because I saw him and it aint done him no harm.
radhab check your p m
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I know its true but you can have your own opinion . Ask Tabron about the vert thing as he rode old school freestyle everyday when he was a kid and I know that because I saw him and it aint done him no harm.
radhab check your p m
Ah...Mr Tabron......now there is a proper inner circle Member from BITD!!!!
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I prefer street to anything and my best stuff bitd was old school freestyle . I think its all related and I get a buzz out of all kinds of riding. It all floats my boat man. ;)
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this thread makes me feel really old.
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Just a thought.......what is everyone's interpretation of street riding???? Seems to be some confusion apparent, probably due to the age of some of the members, you know nearly 40 and all that :LolLolLolLol:
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old gits ;D ;D
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thats nothing
someone told me that vert riding come from skateboarding.
as if!!!
i mean, bikes have 2 wheels for a start
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hmm, well i dont see street as being anti social.
i mean i can go to a skatepark with 10 bmxers there and no one talks to ya. where as ive ridden street up london , met riders from around the globe and had some amazing sessions. for example i met a south african guy up southbank who is on a working holiday here, i now hook up with him about once a week and ride street. (btw check out his site www.bloodshotink.co.za)
ive met many just as many riders through street riding as i have through park riding.
another way of looking at it is do riders want to ride in an icolated anti- social fashion: one person that springs to mind is jonah lidburg (on the drop the hammer dvd, not sure if i spelt that right) who only rides alone.
as for the age difference im 18: street riding , riding in the street, objects not made specifically for bmxing use that can be found in the street, for example a set of stairs, a handrail, some sort of modern art sculpture etc...
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oh and i wasnt there as i havent been alive that long, but i would say mto a degree bmxing is influenced by skate boarding.
and on the flat land matter its definetly the case. a lot of older flat land tricks are making a comeback in street. for example all the hang 5 combos, i would say they are influenced by flatland.
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I think some threads can be pulled together here. Maybe.
In the latter part of the 80s, riders were dressing like skaters and did wallrides. That's about all I can remember as far as street riding goes, put a small ramp up against a wall and ride up it. In about 1991, there was that skater event at South Bank, FIST (Freestyle in Street) which would've been part of the small nippy boards phase, replacing the huge 10x30in coffin doors I remember from '86. Little wheels, too.
BMX was in decline. Hoffman took up street riding, pulling rails and pegstalls on anything he could. God only knows how the pegs on his Bashguard Sport held up. Forward a bit to about 1994 and Mark Eaton's doing flatland moves in the Dorkin' videos, incorporating them in his street riding. Jay Miron does a bit of flatland in Mad Matt.
So I think there's always been a kind of parallel course that both things have followed, and like it or not, the two owe a lot each other.
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yeah street defo has some flatland moves
the more new street movies i watch lately the more i see modern riders incorporating flatland moves the same way mark eaton did steam rollers along ledges
theres even some in that awesome voices video in the video section
modern street is awesome, anyone seen the fly uno dvd?
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yer thats a totally amazing dvd.
i love the intro done with the crates.
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Good vids j...
Still disagree with the flatland thing but thats my opinion!!!!
I would say though that there are some flatland moves used in Street but i wont agree that street came from Flatland..As i said earlier, i rode street in its early years and like DMC and Wilkerson i used to go out on the weekends (Fri, Sat nights) and ride till it got light, making up new tricks and finding different stuff to ride on or off! Now, Tricks i used to do were, grind absolutely any and everything! Chainring fakies on anything that didnt move and sometimes stuff that did...and as you said wall rides on just about any wall in the town. There are a couple of members on here that will vouch for my nocturnal activities as they on occasion rode with me. I dont remember ever incorporating any kind of flatland tricks in what i used to do. And before anyone says it, 360's were being done as jumps long before they were done on the ground and 180's are the building block of freestyle as a whole so dont go down that road.
So i'll agree to disagree to its origins and tell you what i know because i like some others was there.
Cheers
P.s. Southbank was Rad i'd love to street ther again sometime.
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Your wrong and you know it. Your just playing with my feelings to provoke an emotional response :'( Well it just wont work as I like many others can see straight through you for the transparent tired old man that you are. You have been up to late to long so go and get some sleep so that you can start to think before you type. :LolLolLolLol: Only kidding RH before your head implodes ;D
On a more seriouse note I think its a more individual thing and some people were more influenced by certain types and styles of riding than others and thats why we all ride different and what makes it such a great sport. I for one love it that we all have our own bag of tricks and this derives from each persons influences from whatever floated their boat when they got into this sport and it will be different for everybody or we would all ride the same.
some of the stuff you see today is a mish mash of styles like mcoy but he puts it together in his own unique way and its awesome but he has bits of allsorts going on as do we all on a smaller scale.
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Yeah
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didnt our own mr smokey get a asbo from dartford council for killing there benches lol
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Yeah
Mr Spee Co Lie you do make i laugh!!!! :LolLolLolLol: Cheers Andy!
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smokey has an ASBO, haha wow. he hasnt told me about that one. ;D
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Hey RH whats with the avatar? Do you think anything will happen on Tuesday? 6.6.06 The number of the beast. ??? Its not you is it? :LolLolLolLol:
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Hey RH whats with the avatar? Do you think anything will happen on Tuesday? 6.6.06 The number of the beast. ??? Its not you is it? :LolLolLolLol:
My mum took that photo when i was 5....... :LolLolLolLol:
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street has its origins in dirt as does flatland and every other aspect of bmx, but street isnt flatland with obstickles its the same as park/dirt riding and some flatland but on different terrain its a combination of everything.... wheelies i am sure have been around before bmx existed it all evolved fom kids having fun and thats what its about today people having fun riding their bikes ... does it really matter how types of riding evolved all that matters is that we enjoy doing theese types of riding
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yeah
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street derived from flatland tricks with obstacles
bear in mind these 2 things:
street riding come about before "street" was jumpboxes and hips etc
flatland at the time of street's conception was more along the lines of one off tricks, ie, hop onto a bench and land in an endo. the bunnyhop was a "flatland" trick. a bunnyhop used to be a compulsary back when comps had compulsary sections. and a 360, etc.
the 2 disciplines are forever linked, although worlds apart now.
its not even ten years ago, that the number 1 riders competed in both ramps and flat (chasing the "overall" title)
dmc was winning flat before winning ramp comps.
i think he is the only bmx rider in history with 10 consecutive overall world titles!
in an endo comp though, he would come second to me. yeh
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IMO Dennis McCoy was the best there is/was. Nobody has touched his consistency., and he's STILL completing on the circuit. Remember that Sunday at Holeshot in ~86/87 when he showed us his groundwork??
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IMO Dennis McCoy was the best there is/was. Nobody has touched his consistency., and he's STILL completing on the circuit. Remember that Sunday at Holeshot in ~86/87 when he showed us his groundwork??
i read about it in a magazine at the time
dmc rules
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:) hey bmx1984, re: yer comment about the beast. the only beast that i'm aware of (and admire), is the canadian one. :coolsmiley:
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the street was all we had to ride , there was no tracks or ramps except for what you built yourself there was no choice there were no grinds (there werent even any pegs for years) flatland street ramp it was all one they all come from the common ancestor "kids in dodgy chords on bikes" trying to have a laugh and not fall off
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lol dodgy cords
i had some. tight and short
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:) hey bmx1984, re: yer comment about the beast. the only beast that i'm aware of (and admire), is the canadian one. :coolsmiley:
Jay miron is the real beast
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yeah
I agree.