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Title: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Swivel on October 04, 2011, 03:37 PM
Hi all. I'm keen to try and keep survivor master original paint/decals then complete this now to factory spec as i'm 1 part off from doing that now. Bought it a while back and it has gloss paint for touch ups that has gone yellow, bugger. My aim is to remove the yellowing paint somehow, then spend time to touch up each and every chip with enamel paint and flat back and tidy up. So what would you recommend to take off this yellowing gloss paint but not affect the original paint. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Matt  :daumenhoch:

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Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: rollin72 on October 04, 2011, 04:53 PM
whats the original paint?  if its powder would nitromors take the gloss off without stripping the powder
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: ukoldschool on October 04, 2011, 05:00 PM
try T-Cut on the yellow bits
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Robbo on October 04, 2011, 05:08 PM
Matt, just bite the bullet and send it Dan for a repowder and then fit some of Del's decals.... :P
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: doomchild on October 04, 2011, 05:18 PM
That's F%^&ed mate. You want to send it to me, for safe keeping.  ;)
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Swivel on October 04, 2011, 05:19 PM
Can't bring myself to Rob.

Anyway these original masters were wet sprayed, not powdered, so nitromors would kill it  :-\
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Swivel on October 04, 2011, 05:20 PM
That's F%^&ed mate. You want to send it to me, for safe keeping.  ;)

Haha you got more than enough  ;D but if you're after a master I may sell you another 85 of mine that isn't an early serial like this if you want, talk to me  ;)
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: ukoldschool on October 04, 2011, 05:20 PM
there is always that option (sending it off for a non original powdercoat finish) if you want it to look like all the others ie non original and with too thick paint......
Personally id clean the yellow off and leave it rather than touching it in
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Swivel on October 04, 2011, 05:20 PM
try T-Cut on the yellow bits

Tried it before, no luck...  >:(
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Swivel on October 04, 2011, 05:22 PM
there is always that option (sending it off for a non original powdercoat finish) if you want it to look like all the others ie non original and with too thick paint......
Personally id clean the yellow off and leave it rather than touching it in

Dan does a great job but if I can keep something original I will try... just wish there was a way to retain the white but remove this yellow gloss paint! Must be a way...
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: ukoldschool on October 04, 2011, 05:22 PM
very fine wet and dry, plenty of water and CARE ? then buff up for a shine afterwards?
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Swivel on October 04, 2011, 05:24 PM
very fine wet and dry, plenty of water and CARE ? then buff up for a shine afterwards?

I did think that mate, may try a non harsh compound too.
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Redline on October 04, 2011, 05:33 PM
Maybe try "Rubbing Compound" it's a bit harsher than T-Cut so go gently  ;)
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Deano on October 04, 2011, 06:17 PM
Have you tried a clay bar? If that doesnt work id use 3000 grit wet n dry (wet) at first and like said you can buff up the paint but you wont have a perfect shine without laquer.  Maybe 3m compound would shift it but thats expensive.
As for the chips i would build them up over time letting each touch fully dry and sink. Im no pro just a fussy car cleaner
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: BMX1973 on October 04, 2011, 06:44 PM
Would a new razor blade take it off, it may sort of pick off? Just a suggestion, may work.  :-\
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: double chevron on October 04, 2011, 06:44 PM
Talk to Jay; he did some wonders with a 84 sport and loads of patience, topic somewhere on here  :)
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: brettypeeps on October 04, 2011, 06:47 PM
try bleach :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on October 04, 2011, 06:53 PM


why bother...give it to someone who knows what there doing
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Swivel on October 04, 2011, 07:11 PM


why bother...give it to someone who knows what there doing

true.... might pop it off to dans to see what he says...  ;)
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Gary72 on October 04, 2011, 10:48 PM
I could get you some 3m compound to try, Have you tried picking it off with your nail or even some thinners.
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Discostu on October 04, 2011, 11:04 PM
I would go the thinners route first. And the use some farcela compound to buff it up. White is a right bugger to touch up. Good luck with that!
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: pickle on October 05, 2011, 10:22 AM
looks like a right git to get off does that, if you're doing it as a survivor.......why not just leave it as it is? 
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Swivel on October 05, 2011, 12:37 PM
looks like a right git to get off does that, if you're doing it as a survivor.......why not just leave it as it is? 

Could do but that yellow will annoy me, I think i've found a way to remove it safely enough now  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: MartyC on October 05, 2011, 12:54 PM
I'm feeling a deja vous moment, didn't this question get asked in a post before?
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: griff on October 05, 2011, 12:59 PM
got some tippex you can borrow matt - would work on the chips AND yellow bits
just PM me your details  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Swivel on October 05, 2011, 01:27 PM
I'm feeling a deja vous moment, didn't this question get asked in a post before?

Yep but I didn't want to rub it down and paint over it, that was the result before, thought i'd post it again when I was getting around to building it which is about now  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Swivel on October 05, 2011, 01:27 PM
got some tippex you can borrow matt - would work on the chips AND yellow bits
just PM me your details  :daumenhoch:

LOL  :D ;)
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: MartyC on October 06, 2011, 08:29 AM
I'm feeling a deja vous moment, didn't this question get asked in a post before?

Yep but I didn't want to rub it down and paint over it, that was the result before, thought i'd post it again when I was getting around to building it which is about now  :coolsmiley:

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Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: JAY on October 14, 2011, 09:55 AM
Matt, you have have to have a lot of patience when doing this, i would use wet n dry to take off the yellow, you just have to take it down slowly and not go through the original paint. Touching it in again is a patience thing, i build the paint up in layers, letting it dry each time and then flatten it off with a wet n dry,(again,be careful not to rub it down too much) then bring it up with t cut and it should blend in spot on. Think i told you before to get Domestic white colour as it matches the original paint pretty much perfect.
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: ukoldschool on October 14, 2011, 10:45 AM
'appliance white' from halfrauds is a good match from memory
Title: Re: 1985 Haro Master paint advice
Post by: Swivel on October 14, 2011, 10:48 AM
Matt, you have have to have a lot of patience when doing this, i would use wet n dry to take off the yellow, you just have to take it down slowly and not go through the original paint. Touching it in again is a patience thing, i build the paint up in layers, letting it dry each time and then flatten it off with a wet n dry,(again,be careful not to rub it down too much) then bring it up with t cut and it should blend in spot on. Think i told you before to get Domestic white colour as it matches the original paint pretty much perfect.

Thanks Jay  :daumenhoch:
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