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Title: Black Chrome
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on May 30, 2006, 04:42 PM
Anyone know a reputable, reasonabley priced firm/person who can black chrome my Mongoose Pro Class f+f  ???
 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Black Chrome
Post by: stidds on May 30, 2006, 05:19 PM
Don't do it.  Mongoose Pro Classes were not 'real' black chrome, they were 'normal' show chrome with a tinted lacquer applied over the top.

Title: Re: Black Chrome
Post by: Nosnod on May 30, 2006, 05:28 PM
Pro Class F&F were available BITD in show chrome as well as the black chrome. Save yourself the hassle and cost
Title: Re: Black Chrome
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on May 30, 2006, 07:02 PM
The one i have is Black Chrome(not coated)... It is patchy and needs re-doing really. I always wanted a Black chrome one and all the other pro classes i see are chrome or just black... i want to be different  ;D
 Here is the sexy biatch
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d79/funmonster/34614db8.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d79/funmonster/3bd948ff.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d79/funmonster/4c07622c.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Chrome
Post by: stidds on May 30, 2006, 07:31 PM
No, the one you have is chrome with a tinted lacquer over the top, Mongoose NEVER used Black Chrome, I did a lot of research into this when I was rebuilding my Pro Class.  This is mine in its original condition, you can see the tinted finish when compared to the seat post.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/Originalcondition.jpg)


Not all Pro Classes are Black OR Chrome, mine is exactly the way Mongoose intended, Chrome with a tinted lacquer.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/PCNEW3.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/PCNEW2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/PCNEW6.jpg)




Title: Re: Black Chrome
Post by: stuey on May 31, 2006, 10:58 AM
I know Ive posted this before this is my night burner I had the black chrome re-popped at Aerocoat (www.aerocoat.net) if thats helpful.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y271/cheekos10/DSCN1794.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y271/cheekos10/DSCN1790.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y271/cheekos10/DSCN2410.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Chrome
Post by: Superkav on May 31, 2006, 11:17 AM
The pictures don't do it justice but I have seen a sample chromed pole with the black laquer over the top....stunning. I'm sure your DB will appreciate a new coat.

if you contact the company they can send you a sample on a 3"x3" piece of aluminium so you can get an idea of how it looks in the flesh.
Title: Re: Black Chrome
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on May 31, 2006, 12:29 PM
Cool m8... thanks for the heads up i will contact them ;)   Can you PM me what it cost you?.
 With regards to coated frames. I used nitromors on the Proclass last night and although there is a very thin laquer layer the chrome underneath it is definately smoke chrome/black chrome.
Title: Re: Black Chrome
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on May 31, 2006, 01:52 PM
I am not saying you are wrong m8... I am telling you what is on my f+f.. I have had a Leary Turbo and its original finish was exactly how you described the Pro Class finish... show chrome with a layer of tinted laquer. I nitromorsed the Turbo and was left with a show chrome bike.
 My Pro Class has a light laquer layer... when i nitromorsed a patch of this off there was no real colour change... under the laquer was fresh shiny smoke/black chrome. Removing the laquer just removed the Dullness..... the patches where the smoke chrome has faded/worn is just Nickel plate which is mostly apparent on the forks.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d79/funmonster/chrome.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Chrome
Post by: Superkav on May 31, 2006, 02:27 PM
I'm pretty sure Stuey had his Burner either chromed first or coated with a powder chrome finish before the black laquer went on as I'm pretty sure the chrome needs to be a very good finish before the laquer is applied. Just mentioning that as he might not have a separate price for the laquer....or maybe he will and I'll just shut my big mouth.
Title: Re: Black Chrome
Post by: stuey on May 31, 2006, 04:48 PM
The finish aerocoat applied is black superchrome applied over a chrome powder (they refer to it as reflectra) they blasted the chrome and applied the chrome powder then the  black superchrome over the top. the FF&B cost me £130 to get done (you would need to ring and ask as this was nearly a year ago though) speak to adam at aeorcoat as he's the techy guy tell him you want a superchrome black finish like mine (they do a normal black chrome powder which is slightly different)

hope this helps clear it all up. if you need anything else feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: Black Chrome
Post by: FuNMoNsTeR on June 01, 2006, 04:08 PM
Thanks for all the info m8 :daumenhoch:
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