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Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..?? (UPDATED WITH PIC'S)
Post by: Chromo Buzz on October 25, 2011, 09:21 PM: Hey all,

Was just wondering if Z rims can be dyed like Tuff's..?? I have a pair of Z's (complete) coming over from across the pond, they are lavender but the rim's seem to be extremely faded. Does anybody know what brand of dye is best?

I've looked on rit dye's website & i think you have to use a colour chart & get them to mix it up for you, is powdered dye best or liquid..??
Thanks in advance guy's for any advice you may be able to offer :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: deeman on October 25, 2011, 09:26 PM: Im 99 per cent sure that Zs can be dyed! :daumenhoch:someone else will no doubt be along shortly to discuss the technicalities as thats the limit of my knowledge!
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: brettypeeps on October 25, 2011, 09:27 PM: Yes they can :daumenhoch: Retrodan72 has just done a pair
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on October 25, 2011, 09:33 PM: Bendycat Eleventeen is the guy who will let ya know about the dye and stuff dude :daumenhoch: Have you tried dylons ?

Any Nylon products can be dyed but it will only just penetrate the surface so the breaking surface will revert back to the colour they have faded to, with black marks from the pads, obviously :LolLolLolLol: If your using them that is ???
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: Kaner on October 25, 2011, 09:34 PM: I've dyed some from very faded sun bleached blue to black and they came out great. . . Second time round . . . Dylon was complete rubbish and turned them brown?! Use RIT dye, it works a treat!
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on October 25, 2011, 10:27 PM: Yes they can be dyed like skyways

but there are things to remember

the surface aera on a skyway is a lot larger and so will take a certain amount of dye to volume of water to container used to dye in

z-rims are smaller and so need less water to cover and hence will also need less dye or they will go darker than wanted

you can always bleach back again / take off new dye and start again

you can also use a fixer, but if the wrong colour it will be harder to get off

so same as skyway dying but less of every thing ;)

pm if stuck
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: Retrodan72 on October 26, 2011, 07:01 AM: Here ya go mate, courtesy of Gaz Rollin', I just did mine, they don't look as goo as Gaz's but haven't sprayed WD40 on them yet.
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=117812.0
:daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on October 26, 2011, 12:01 PM: have only worked on these and not dyed - bleach, sanded, shaped and smoothed and then decaled

from this

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/mag%20wheels/SNC18529.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/mag%20wheels/SNC18528.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/mag%20wheels/SNC18532.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/mag%20wheels/SNC18534.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/mag%20wheels/SNC18537.jpg)

to these >:D

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX%20MAG%20WHEELS/SNC10062.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX%20MAG%20WHEELS/SNC10064.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX%20MAG%20WHEELS/SNC10066.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX%20MAG%20WHEELS/SNC10069.jpg)

cheers B ;)
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: Julian347 on October 26, 2011, 12:04 PM: Quality piece of resto. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: Chromo Buzz on October 26, 2011, 09:12 PM: Quote from: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on October 26, 2011, 12:01 PM
have only worked on these and not dyed - bleach, sanded, shaped and smoothed and then decaled

from this

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/mag%20wheels/SNC18529.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/mag%20wheels/SNC18528.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/mag%20wheels/SNC18532.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/mag%20wheels/SNC18534.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/mag%20wheels/SNC18537.jpg)

to these >:D

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX%20MAG%20WHEELS/SNC10062.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX%20MAG%20WHEELS/SNC10064.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX%20MAG%20WHEELS/SNC10066.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX%20MAG%20WHEELS/SNC10069.jpg)

cheers B ;)
Top Drawer resto work there Bendycat :smitten: :4_17_5: Did Dels Decals do the decals for ya? ;)
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: Chromo Buzz on October 26, 2011, 09:13 PM: Quote from: retrodan72 on October 26, 2011, 07:01 AM
Here ya go mate, courtesy of Gaz Rollin', I just did mine, they don't look as goo as Gaz's but haven't sprayed WD40 on them yet.
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=117812.0
:daumenhoch:
Cheer's for the link fella :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on October 26, 2011, 10:06 PM: Sadly this set have been done for Adam / AgayGuff and not for me ::)

decals were sent from Swivel

i just had to do all the hard work for other peeps to enjoy the spoils ;D
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: Chromo Buzz on October 26, 2011, 10:15 PM: Quote from: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on October 26, 2011, 10:06 PM
Sadly this set have been done for Adam / AgayGuff and not for me ::)

decals were sent from Swivel

i just had to do all the hard work for other peeps to enjoy the spoils ;D

I hope he sent plenty of beer tokens your way for all the blood sweat & tears spent on those bad boy's :knuppel2: ;)
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on October 26, 2011, 11:37 PM: no just foul language and abuse so far ;D
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: theRuler on October 27, 2011, 01:47 AM: You will need salt.

(http://www.boriswatch.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/salt.jpg)
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: dj-paul-c on October 27, 2011, 07:40 PM: re-the earlier posters link

im guessing the rit dye needs to be heated to get it to work
if i find a large enough cooking pot -is it possible to heat on the cooker ? and how easy is it doing this
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: In2 bmx on October 27, 2011, 08:00 PM: Top work . ;) They look mint . :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..??
Post by: crazycraig on October 27, 2011, 08:14 PM: Love z'ds and they are the biz !!!!
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..?? (UPDATED WITH PIC'S)
Post by: Chromo Buzz on November 09, 2011, 08:52 PM: Evening all, the lavender Z's arrived from the States last week :) They are really faded, but still in great shape.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/zz80/buzzer1971/LavenderZs011.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/zz80/buzzer1971/LavenderZs013.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/zz80/buzzer1971/LavenderZs012.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/zz80/buzzer1971/LavenderZs014.jpg)

I have since stripped them down & have washed them with hot water.scotchbrite(burgandy one) & hand cleanser(the stuff with grit in) similar to swarfega but not as coarse. I'm only half way thru the first rim at the mo but am well stoked with the result so far :smitten:, i will add some pic's as soon as i have finished cleaning them :daumenhoch: I'm keeping these lavender so will possibly dye them, but first i may try the aqua blasting route as i'm gonna be getting a set of yellow steel hubbed Tuff 2's done soon.

I have a question fellow radster's......is it possible to buy white spokes & nipples?? Or will i need to spray them?
Once they're finished they'll be mounted on me Reflex 8)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/zz80/buzzer1971/lavenderreflexpics009.jpg)
Title: Re: Can Z rim's be dyed..?? (UPDATED WITH PIC'S)
Post by: rollin72 on November 09, 2011, 09:03 PM: cheapest Ive found were from sourcebmx, about a tenner for 50- 194's