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Title: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: craigcurbow on November 09, 2011, 10:43 PM
Just bought a ripper f&f. And promised it was an early one. The forks are landing gear forks with drilled dropouts . The frame number is pk64134 cheers
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: Betty on November 09, 2011, 10:55 PM
It said yes then...  ;D
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on November 10, 2011, 12:04 AM
piccy's mate  ;)
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: craigcurbow on November 10, 2011, 08:07 AM
Can any body give me a year from the frame number?
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: kungfunky on November 10, 2011, 08:10 AM
SE usually put random date stamps on the Rippers, show us a pic and we'll tell you the year.
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: jimwise68 on November 10, 2011, 08:54 AM
It said yes then...  ;D

 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Nice to know you're a tryer, got there on the second attempt  ;)

As the guys said stick a pic up  ;)
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: 58 delray on November 10, 2011, 10:16 AM
Can any body give me a year from the frame number?
nope, you can't date a ripper from the frame number
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: double chevron on November 10, 2011, 10:51 AM
read this the other day, http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=363532
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: 58 delray on November 10, 2011, 11:44 AM
read this the other day, http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=363532
first time i've heard of that, so if true that would make this one an 83  :daumenhoch:

and mine an early 79 as it has no serial  :)

2xxxx = mid 1979
3xxxx = 1980
4xxxx = 1981
5xxxx = 1982
6xxxx = 1983
7xxxx = 1984
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: 58 delray on November 10, 2011, 12:59 PM
done a bit more research on this that has thrown up Rippers with numbers starting with 0s so not sure that the above is acurate, also talking to people that have spoken to the OM they say that he says that Rippers started getting numbers in Nov 79 and that the numbers were random.
so it seems that we are back to where we started.

pre Nov 79=no serial
nov 79-84 random serials and can't be dated.

any more info on this would be appreciated
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: meticulous on November 10, 2011, 01:51 PM
dont know really why it matters as all early loopies will come under the same valuation, and will command good re-sale prices... :)
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: 58 delray on November 10, 2011, 02:46 PM
dont know really why it matters as all early loopies will come under the same valuation, and will command good re-sale prices... :)

yeah i know sam but it makes me laugh when some people say they have a certain year ripper when there is no proven way of dating them except the 79s  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: craigcurbow on November 11, 2011, 07:15 PM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ab299/craigcurbow_photo/KGrHqFiUE6O-cSjWyBOnYMJq-pw60_1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ab299/craigcurbow_photo/KGrHqNlME6CWISze5BOnYMNZmCw60_14.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ab299/craigcurbow_photo/KGrHqRhE6Zf-pYFIBOnYMRpB7w60_14.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ab299/craigcurbow_photo/KGrHqYOKp0E6YyeCV52BOnYMPhkw60_14.jpg)
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: brummie on November 11, 2011, 07:16 PM
what andy said graig
it would be late 79 to 84 looptail
very nice
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: kungfunky on November 11, 2011, 08:59 PM
From what I can see it looks pretty good too, although I have to put the pics on my 56" screen to see them  :D

what plans you got for it ?
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: hotdog on November 11, 2011, 09:02 PM
Just for the record,my looptail Ripper was purchased new in late '82 and does correspond to the date list from the museum.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: 58 delray on November 11, 2011, 10:23 PM
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/11344ebda04a2c3b9.jpg)
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: 58 delray on November 11, 2011, 10:25 PM
Just for the record,my looptail Ripper was purchased new in late '82 and does correspond to the date list from the museum.  :daumenhoch:
that still don't explain the serials starting with a 0   :-\
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: kungfunky on November 11, 2011, 10:34 PM
I've also just got my hands on "yup another" Ripper and mines a very very early one  ;)
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: craigcurbow on November 11, 2011, 10:46 PM
From what I can see it looks pretty good too, although I have to put the pics on my 56" screen to see them  :D

what plans you got for it ?

Baby blue.............Need I say more ;)
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: kungfunky on November 11, 2011, 11:03 PM
A classic SE colour indeed
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: 58 delray on November 11, 2011, 11:16 PM
first ever PK Ripper in the UK was red  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: craigcurbow on November 11, 2011, 11:19 PM
first ever PK Ripper in the UK was red  :daumenhoch:



Hmmmm   interesting!!   Do you have a link?
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: hunterdubber on November 11, 2011, 11:31 PM
I've also just got my hands on "yup another" Ripper and mines a very very early one  ;)

Another round top tube one Ash ?  ::)

I'm with Andy , always made me ::) when I saw " I've bought this 81 Ripper " ,, How do you know ? :crazy2: :D

If Scot says it's random , I'd believe him  ;) ,, then again he did a shitload of drugs in the last 30 years  :crazy2: :LolLolLolLol:  :D


Gutted really about the Museum thread as I thought my Ripper was an 83 for a minute  :-\


BTW Craig  :) ,,Baby blue loopy's ,,CLASS  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: kungfunky on November 11, 2011, 11:53 PM
2 Round tube Rippers ?? now thats just greedy C  :laugh: :laugh:

As for "OM", yup I've talked to him a few times about this and Brian Hayes and they both confirm the same thing with what we all thought. Random serial numbers.

The 1st serial numbers were late 79  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: Dark Diggler on November 11, 2011, 11:54 PM
Here's an old Ripper

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p70/simonjturner/Huntersuckcliff.jpg)
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: hunterdubber on November 11, 2011, 11:59 PM
Here's an old Ripper

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p70/simonjturner/Huntersuckcliff.jpg)


I look like a Cripple Ripper  :crazy2:

What a mong  ;D
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: 58 delray on November 12, 2011, 12:04 AM
I've also just got my hands on "yup another" Ripper and mines a very very early one  ;)

Another round top tube one Ash ?  ::)

I'm with Andy , always made me ::) when I saw " I've bought this 81 Ripper " ,, How do you know ? :crazy2: :D

If Scot says it's random , I'd believe him  ;) ,, then again he did a shitload of drugs in the last 30 years  :crazy2: :LolLolLolLol:  :D


Gutted really about the Museum thread as I thought my Ripper was an 83 for a minute  :-\


BTW Craig  :) ,,Baby blue loopy's ,,CLASS  :daumenhoch:


scott says the numbers were random, Sal, who was one of the welders that put the SE and Race inc frames together says they were random,
some numbers tie in with the theory put forward on the museum but others don't such as the 0 numbers.
so until i have proof as far as i'm concerned there is no way to date a loopy PK Ripper apart from the round tope tube frames (79) and the non serial frames (also 79)
serial numbers started in nov 79 according to scott and were random

if anyone comes up with anything to disprove this please let me or Ash (kungfunky) know.

 
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: 58 delray on November 12, 2011, 12:09 AM
first ever PK Ripper in the UK was red  :daumenhoch:



Hmmmm   interesting!!   Do you have a link?
nope, but i know who brought it in to the country and i also know where it is now  :) and i also saw it when it first came into the country in case you are in dought 
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: hunterdubber on November 12, 2011, 12:11 AM
I've also just got my hands on "yup another" Ripper and mines a very very early one  ;)

Another round top tube one Ash ?  ::)

I'm with Andy , always made me ::) when I saw " I've bought this 81 Ripper " ,, How do you know ? :crazy2: :D

If Scot says it's random , I'd believe him  ;) ,, then again he did a shitload of drugs in the last 30 years  :crazy2: :LolLolLolLol:  :D


Gutted really about the Museum thread as I thought my Ripper was an 83 for a minute  :-\


BTW Craig  :) ,,Baby blue loopy's ,,CLASS  :daumenhoch:


scott says the numbers were random, Sal, who was one of the welders that put the SE and Race inc frames together says they were random,
some numbers tie in with the theory put forward on the museum but others don't such as the 0 numbers.
so until i have proof as far as i'm concerned there is no way to date a loopy PK Ripper apart from the round tope tube frames (79) and the non serial frames (also 79)
serial numbers started in nov 79 according to scott and were random

if anyone comes up with anything to disprove this please let me or Ash (kungfunky) know.

 



Like you said before Andy , back to square one  ;)

and that's that  :angel:

There can't be a better source of info,, than from THE owner and fabricator  ::)  :)

Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: 58 delray on November 12, 2011, 01:08 AM
aye  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: craigcurbow on November 12, 2011, 09:20 AM
Thanks for all the info! Think i'm gonna stick with baby blue chrome forks and bars, watch this space :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Help needed dated a ripper
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on November 12, 2011, 10:56 AM
Take pic's all the way mate  :daumenhoch:

well done on getting one  8)
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