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Title: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: thecaptain on December 19, 2011, 02:46 PM
alright guys, bought a new school mutiny cosmotron from the local friday ad, turns out the frames cracked at the headtube, little pissed but it was very cheap so cant complain

just wondering if anyone here is any good at welding? crack is around 1/2 way round the downtube weld

cheers in advance
tom
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: kungfunky on December 19, 2011, 02:48 PM
I'd say there are plenty who can weld on here, Phil Sawzal's work is second to nine though so might be worth giving him a pm, no idea how busy he is etc.
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: Dannywhac on December 19, 2011, 03:01 PM
Yep - Sawzall will fix that up nice. Can't you just take the fekker back though?
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: steve69 on December 19, 2011, 11:55 PM
I'd say there are plenty who can weld on here, Phil Sawzal's work is second to nine though so might be worth giving him a pm, no idea how busy he is etc.

Bet Phil will be pleased to hear that you think he's the 10th best at it, so who are the 9 people better than him ???



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Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on December 20, 2011, 12:28 AM
I see  :2funny:
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: mattfx81 on December 20, 2011, 12:35 AM
Cracked weld doesn't sound too healthy that. Even if you do remove the damaged weld and put another run around the head tube then it would need to be heat treated afterwards if the frame is 4130 to get the strength back into the tubing as the heat from welding would have affected it. This would be especially critical at the head tube with the high stresses it will receive.
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: kungfunky on December 20, 2011, 08:06 AM
I'd say there are plenty who can weld on here, Phil Sawzal's work is second to nine though so might be worth giving him a pm, no idea how busy he is etc.

Bet Phil will be pleased to hear that you think he's the 10th best at it, so who are the 9 people better than him ???



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Fook these sausage fingers  :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: I think it might help if I change the letters round on my keyboard  :-[
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: firebird4130 on December 20, 2011, 08:49 AM
take it to dennis in crowhurst,  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: thecaptain on January 11, 2012, 11:43 AM
messaged sawzal but no reply since last contact over a week ago, might have to take it to dennis fraz, aint been there in years, loved the vert ramp!
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: southern andy on January 11, 2012, 02:04 PM
Sawzall has computer problems and can only get online in very small doses.
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: wildon on January 11, 2012, 02:09 PM
Sawzall has computer problems and can only get online in very small doses.


ahhhh .. that explains it  ;)
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: oldschoolace on January 11, 2012, 02:29 PM
Cracked weld doesn't sound too healthy that. Even if you do remove the damaged weld and put another run around the head tube then it would need to be heat treated afterwards if the frame is 4130 to get the strength back into the tubing as the heat from welding would have affected it. This would be especially critical at the head tube with the high stresses it will receive.

+1

If you intend to use it in anger i would be very wary. I would only use it for cruising round on unless you can increase the surface area of the weld with a larger version of the plates they put on the downtubes these days. May not be pretty though :'(
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: jT Racing on January 15, 2012, 12:46 AM
It will be fine with a weld.
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: MartyC on January 15, 2012, 03:47 AM
If you are based near North- West London I can thoroughly recommend a friend of mine..

Colin Smith
Smiths Welding Services
Old Mill Farm
Old Mill Lane
Uxbridge
UB8 2JH

Tel: 01895 251145

Ask for Colin and tell him you know Marty Coughlin through the BMX site  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: thecaptain on January 23, 2012, 05:26 PM
still after someone to weld this frame :(

im based near hastings, east sussex. london is a bit of a mission for a weld but thats all the same  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: animal on January 23, 2012, 05:49 PM
What material is this frame ? Got any piccys u can stick up ?
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: mattfx81 on January 23, 2012, 06:10 PM
Have a google for custom race car builders and they should be able to help.
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: thecaptain on January 26, 2012, 09:26 AM
What material is this frame ? Got any piccys u can stick up ?
its 4130, heres a few pics


anyone on here help? have had no luck elsewhere

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h272/southcoastbmx/2012037.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/h272/southcoastbmx/2012038.jpg)
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: mattfx81 on January 26, 2012, 03:02 PM
You can weld 4130 with a mild steel filler rod with Tig so any general fabricator who is half decent at Tig could repair it but as I mentioned it would need heat treatment afterwards to bring back the strength to the heat affected area if you wanted to ride the bike for its intended purpose.
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: thecaptain on January 27, 2012, 12:48 PM
You can weld 4130 with a mild steel filler rod with Tig so any general fabricator who is half decent at Tig could repair it but as I mentioned it would need heat treatment afterwards to bring back the strength to the heat affected area if you wanted to ride the bike for its intended purpose.
ah isee, its only going to be used as a pub bike anyway not going to be jumping with it

still looking for someone to weld it!
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: mattfx81 on January 27, 2012, 01:20 PM
Just pop in your local fabricators with it and ask if they are set up for mild steel and can they weld it up for you.
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: thecaptain on January 29, 2012, 05:08 PM
Just pop in your local fabricators with it and ask if they are set up for mild steel and can they weld it up for you.
ah ok cheers, will try that

cheers
tom
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: animal on January 30, 2012, 08:54 PM
That weld is fookin shite no wonder it has cracked . Welds should never break  ;) the parent metal should break first  :shocked: Pm me if u want bud  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: thecaptain on February 02, 2012, 04:14 PM
Just had an offer from DARREN K.A.P to weld it for free i just pay postage, absolute LEGEND!!!    :4_17_5:
Title: Re: anyone on here any good at welding?
Post by: jamesandrewcook on February 19, 2012, 07:35 PM
Hi Captain

Did you have any luck with your weld?

I've been looking for a welder for months. I've a mongoose FS1 with a crack in the seat tube: (http://payload26.cargocollective.com/1/0/2895/2834115/Crack_o.jpeg)
The crack was hidden under an industrial sized clamp on eBay.

I'm in South West London, but more than willing to travel to save my goose.
Any help would be really appreciated.

Cheers
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