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Old School BMX 1980 - 1988 => Old School Freestyle (frame stands and kickturns galore!) => Topic started by: Stodgy on June 08, 2006, 01:37 PM
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Bored at home...reading through some old BMX mags...got me thinking:
Who would be the 6 riders, past or present, you'd choose to be in the Ultimate Freestyle Team?
First thoughts for me:
Eddie Fiola
Mat Hoffman
Jerry Galley
Corey Martinez
Sergio Layos
Jamie Bestwick
What do you say? You can now choose 6! Just remove your vote and vote again!
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:) my list would prob. be:
fiola
mike d
matt
john parker
mike buff
van homan
1st reserves: ken hale
taj
2nd reserves: too numerous to mention. :laugh:
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Mat Hoffman, jamie bestwick, dave mirra, dmc, dave osato, mike aitken, ruben alacantra, sergio leyos, gerry galley, morgan wade
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Mat Hoffman, jamie bestwick, dave mirra, dmc, dave osato, mike aitken, ruben alacantra, sergio leyos, gerry galley, morgan wade
Come on...you gotta choose 6...them's the rules...
;)
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sorry all those are too good to leave out, i couldnt choose between them
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sorry all those are too good to leave out, i couldnt choose between them
That's the problem with the youth of today, never stick to the rules...
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mirra
dmc
alacatra
kuoppa
jones
hoffman
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sorry all those are too good to leave out, i couldnt choose between them
That's the problem with the youth of today, never stick to the rules...
i agree about time we put a stop to this :knuppel2:
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Ron Wilkerson
Mike Canning
Dave Osato
Carlo Griggs
Ruben Alcantara
Gerry Galley
Innovation
Desire
Technical
Grace
Pace
Bravery
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Mat Hoffman
Dave Mirra
Jamie Bestwick
Carlo Griggs
Pepi Winder
Craig Campbell
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:) sorry stodgy: it's a hard q. sven must have an easier job to choose who to pick to kick a ball around for 90 mins.
i know that i missed out from the 1st team: the canadian beast.
and from the reserves: escamillia,the spanish fly, kuoppa, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. (or were they meant to be in the first six?)
i hope that u find ur dream team (but keep in fiola!)
let us know of your final choice.::)
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Fiola ???? is that a joke ?
Carlo Griggs
Jamie Bestwick
Ryan Nyquist
Morgan Wade
Cory Nastasio
And the old school choice would be Ron Wilkerson.
Fiola :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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Neil Ruffell rip
DMC
Carlo
Hoffman
Wilkerson
Mirra
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6 eh.....shit thats hard
mirra
bestwick
rueben
hoffman
nyquist
dmc.
top 20 would be easier
Dave
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6 eh.....shit thats hard
mirra
bestwick
rueben
hoffman
nyquist
dmc.
top 20 would be easier
Dave
Dave - have you missed someone?!! Hint: Gen 1. ;)
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:) stodgy, there's so many.
you must be onto a bestseller here! :angel:
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v255/rombloke/e19f4acb.jpg)
somone said the h word
Dave
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Go on Dave...you can do it...just one more time...
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:police: manta says that the ulimate (bar none) r: mirra
mat
canadian beast
ruben
escamilia
sergio
but he always keeps somebody in reserve. :angel:
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:) sorry stodgy but i 4got to put lord volk in da top 6, and escamilia has been promoted , look stodgy i resign, i don't want to be a selecta (bo, or otherwise) anymore:-*
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ffs just six?
mirra
hoffman
bestwick
fiola
dominquez
wade
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Wilkerson
Neil Ruffell
Mike Dominguez
Craig Campbell
Jamie Bestwick
Mat Hoffman
Remember Fiola was out there BITD but Mr Ruffell(RIP) destroyed him at Kellogs 85, watch kellogs and check out Wilkerson he was the best of his time
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Wilkerson
Neil Ruffell
Mike Dominguez
Craig Campbell
Jamie Bestwick
Mat Hoffman
Remember Fiola was out there BITD but Mr Ruffell(RIP) destroyed him at Kellogs 85, watch kellogs and check out Wilkerson he was the best of his time
so where was ruffell 3 yrs earlier when fiola was ripping on the vans tour on an old kuwi?
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vanderspeck
hoffman
gonzales
wilkerson
mirra
nastazio
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Ok, so it looks like Hoffman and Bestwick are definately in!
Once we have a few more names in the pot, I'll see if I can put a poll up on the thread.
Remember this is all about personal choice - who you would like to see ride - for me, Fiola rocked and was one of the very early innovators of the sport. I never got bored of watching him ride. However, I agree he wasn't as good as some of his peers in later years...but that's natural progression, and doesn't taint what he achieved in the foundation of the sport.
Come on chaps, lets have some more...
:daumenhoch:
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Ok, so it looks like Hoffman and Bestwick are definately in!
Once we have a few more names in the pot, I'll see if I can put a poll up on the thread.
Remember this is all about personal choice - who you would like to see ride - for me, Fiola rocked and was one of the very early innovators of the sport. I never got bored of watching him ride. However, I agree he wasn't as good as some of his peers in later years...but that's natural progression, and doesn't taint what he achieved in the foundation of the sport.
Come on chaps, lets have some more...
:daumenhoch:
Boring boring Bestwick, he's like a one man Arsenal Football club!
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Come on chaps, lets have some more...
:daumenhoch:
kevin jones
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Ok, so it looks like Hoffman and Bestwick are definately in!
This was just by popular concensus...let me see if I can get that poll running...
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Right then...Poll is up and running. I've taken the list from all the votes we've had so far...if you to add more, let me know.
You can only choose one unfortunately, so just choose your favourite and the top six form the team...then all we need is to call them all up and get them to put on a show! Simple. ;D
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Wilkerson
Neil Ruffell
Mike Dominguez
Craig Campbell
Jamie Bestwick
Mat Hoffman
Remember Fiola was out there BITD but Mr Ruffell(RIP) destroyed him at Kellogs 85, watch kellogs and check out Wilkerson he was the best of his time
Ruff was just a baby then...lol
Had he been around he would have eaten him up, remember terry jenkins and Andy Irwin were destroying Fiola on the pipe bitd
so where was ruffell 3 yrs earlier when fiola was ripping on the vans tour on an old kuwi?
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Id like to throw one more name into the mix - seems to have been overlooked and he's in my top 5 of all time for sure -
DAVE VOELKER.
ANd while Im at it, perhaps Rick Moliterno? Rob Ridge? Vic Murphy?
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Id like to throw one more name into the mix - seems to have been overlooked and he's in my top 5 of all time for sure -
DAVE VOELKER.
ANd while Im at it, perhaps Rick Moliterno? Rob Ridge? Vic Murphy?
He's in there now. :daumenhoch:
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Kevin Jones,
Mark Eaton,
Day Smith,
Kevin Robinson,
Joe Cox,
Phil Dolan.
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Kevin Jones,
Mark Eaton,
Day Smith,
Kevin Robinson,
Joe Cox,
Phil Dolan.
Nice choice dude...
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thanky,.. i knew id be good for something one day.
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Voelker
Mirra
Dominquez
Fiola
Hoffman
Nastasio
In that order........
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vander is not on there.
c'mon sort it stodgy.
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Kevin Jones,
Mark Eaton,
Day Smith,
Kevin Robinson,
Joe Cox,
Phil Dolan.
who are all these people???????? :LolLolLolLol: just kidding Blindingsun
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vander is not on there.
c'mon sort it stodgy.
Here ya go young Phil...just for you...he's in.
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ta.
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ta.
Not voting for him then?
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lol, ive used my vote, you should make it so you can have six....
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lol, ive used my vote, you should make it so you can have six....
I can seem to find that function...can you do that?
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ill have a look.
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What about Josh White, Joe Johnson, Denis Langlais, Zak Shaw, John Taylor, Ron Wilkerson, Donovan Ritter, Blyther, Ronny Wilton, Dean Rush, Terry Jenkins, Ron Wilkerson, Effraim Catlow, Paul Zak, Marty Schlesinger, Ron Wilkerson, Jay Miron, Jason Davies, Andy Irwin, Dave Breed, Ron Wilkerson, Mike Pardon, Ollie Matthews, Nick Martin, Ron Wilkerson, Dave Nourie, Dave Slade,
and finally Ron Wilkerson!
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have set it to 6, but cant seem to vote more than once, but then again i have had 4 beers.
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Yep well done the fruitster....you have to remove your previous vote then vote away!!!!!! :daumenhoch:
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Nice one Phil. You're smarter than you look.
How did you do it?
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What about Josh White, Joe Johnson, Denis Langlais, Zak Shaw, John Taylor, Ron Wilkerson, Donovan Ritter, Blyther, Ronny Wilton, Dean Rush, Terry Jenkins, Ron Wilkerson, Effraim Catlow, Paul Zak, Marty Schlesinger, Ron Wilkerson, Jay Miron, Jason Davies, Andy Irwin, Dave Breed, Ron Wilkerson, Mike Pardon, Ollie Matthews, Nick Martin, Ron Wilkerson, Dave Nourie, Dave Slade,
and finally Ron Wilkerson!
Dude, Ron Wilkerson is on the list already. And I agree with all the others, there are so many brilliant riders, but we gotta stop somewhere.
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Wheres Canning!!!! World Champion and World Super champion! You gotta put Mike on Dave! Best of British and all that, Christ you put Bestwick on there! :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain:
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Wheres Canning!!!! World Champion and World Super champion! You gotta put Mike on Dave! Best of British and all that, Christ you put Bestwick on there! :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain:
:daumenhoch:
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Cheers Dave :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
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WHERE'S HARO!!! :wtf:
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Only two of mine are on the list! My team....
Rick Moliterno, arguably the most refined rider of all time!
Paul Osicka, took Kevin and Chase's stuff to another planet.
Ian Morris, The Ginger Ninja and one of history's finest street riders, epitomises aggro.
Gerry Galley, unsung hero.
Dave Voelker, THE LORD!!
Too many other amazing riders to list!
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....and Brian Castillo on the bench!
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WHERE'S HARO!!! :wtf:
Nobody put him in their original lists of 6, so he was left off. :-[
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tuff one this . i would agree with all the ones mentioned . hoffman would be top of the list, after that it gets a bit tricky for me . i kind of always liked the quircky individual riders who always did their own thing, guys like moliterno , eddie roman, rob ridge, vic murphy , Mc Murray ,castillo and Galley.
good thread
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WHERE'S HARO!!! :wtf:
Nobody put him in their original lists of 6, so he was left off. :-[
But it seems strange without him...so he's on.
:daumenhoch:
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would have been a lot easier if it had of been 8
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would have been a lot easier if it had of been 8
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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OR 10 ;D
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Come on chaps...keep voting. I'll close the poll in 2 weeks.
:daumenhoch:
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Mirra,nyquist,dominguez,haro,voelker,osato.
priv
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What about John Dizz Hicks another great rider :daumenhoch:
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what about tony law when he came back from australia wigan 81 82 8)
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yer a reet fooker ya fat big nose and I prolly were the best in 71
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Come on chaps...keep voting. I'll close the poll in 2 weeks.
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good idea to get a sticky on this thread then, for the next 2 weeks.
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Cool. PIN status...come on chaps, get voting!
Poll closes 25th June 2006!
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after the poll has closed will you assemble these riders to perform for us?
i want to give eddie "dabs" fiola some tips on keeping his feet on the pedals
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after the poll has closed will you assemble these riders to perform for us?
i want to give eddie "dabs" fiola some tips on keeping his feet on the pedals
Absolutely dude. If we book them, they wil come.
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Stodgy, you have to add Moliterno to that list! As big a legend as any of those riders above (a better rider than most too) Cru signed his cast!!!
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dominguez :4_17_5:
haro :4_17_5:
hoffman :4_17_5:
neil ruffle :4_17_5:
billy stupple :4_17_5:
marco lara :4_17_5:
ps i would like to include "superbikedan" for max height out of the performance bowl
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oh yeah. Martti Kuoppa needs to be in there... one of the best flatlanders ever,,
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:) true!!!! 8)
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:)er, i can't help but notice that the canadian beast isn't on. any chance of putting his name on the list????? please!!!!!
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Get jay miron on it to hes fookin brillant :daumenhoch:
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seconded!!!!!! :daumenhoch:
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Well go on then...vote!
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Well go on then...vote!
End it earlier Dave, that'll get em voting.....say this Sunday instead!
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Well go on then...vote!
End it earlier Dave, that'll get em voting.....say this Sunday instead!
I was referring to the Jay Miron Fan club...they got their man, but no votes have come in for him... ;)
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:) take no notice of rehab, keep it rollin :angel:
since at the begining we could cancel our 1 vote to have the 6, now that names have been added, is it poss to cancel the 6 to have a new six (i'm not talking about tactical voting, as if 8)
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:) take no notice of rehab, keep it rollin :angel:
since at the begining we could cancel our 1 vote to have the 6, now that names have been added, is it poss to cancel the 6 to have a new six (i'm not talking about tactical voting, as if 8)
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ffs A doobey der, a durber der.....Keep up
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i think its ended
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i think its ended
Shoudn't have done...?
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these guys seem to have been around a long time now, and are still pushing the boundries on what can be done on a kids bike, though they will probaly say their heros are, fiola, haro, ruffel, dominquez,winkerson. times change and its hard to forget who started these things. but in ten years time, there be'll another load of kids pushing it, and their heros will be the ones below, and they'll probaly never hearded of the above.
hoffman
bestwick
mirra
alcantara
miron
osato
alan ;)
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Hello Oxford calling our votes are :-
Hoffman :4_17_5:
Galley
Fiola
Bestwick
Mirra
Haro
That concludes the voting of the Oxford jury.
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a vert-tastic team
i swap fiola and haro for kevin jones and tobias vicke though
i'd swap fiola for a spare inner tube for one of the other riders thinking about it
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What about John Dizz Hicks another great rider :daumenhoch:
hear! hear! :)
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a vert-tastic team
i swap fiola and haro for kevin jones and tobias vicke though
i'd swap fiola for a spare inner tube for one of the other riders thinking about it
I watched Tobias Wicke last year practising at KOC and it was some of the most tech stuff i've ever seen! the guy is a monster Mini ramp rider, big sod as well!!! but having said that i dont think he's up in the greats yet although very Rad :daumenhoch:
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I had to go for 6 names I recognised :)
I've seen some of the other names on X-Games, but I'm sticking to the oldschool names with one exception.
I don't know enough to say whether McCoy is better than Mirra is better than Miron etc...
No Buff or Itson. Well, that's my fault for only finding the poll now...
The first 'freestyle' I remember seeing was Andy Ruffell bunnyhopping over a mongoose in a book I had.
That plus another guy also called Duncan in my town who used to bunnyhop onto old car bonnets in a scrapyard, impressive back then, probably would be even today.
He stopped riding before I even got my first BMX.
I chose:
Fiola, Dominguez, Ruffell, Voelker, Vanderspek, Haro
Haro, who popularised freestyle.
Voelker, I remember watching the X-Games around 1999/2000 and seeing his dirtjumping. Amazing stuff.
Vanderspek for the groundbreaking flatland.
Ruffell for all-round freestyle skills, ramp especially.
Fiola, for his skatepark and ramp riding
Dominguez, also for skateparkand ramp riding
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Well, the votes have been counted and verified...and RADBMX's Ultimate Freestyle Team is:
Mat Hoffman - 24 Votes
Eddie Fiola - 24 Votes
Dave Mirra - 23 Votes
Jamie Bestwick - 17 Votes
Neil Ruffle - 17 Votes
Bob Haro - 14 Votes
Total Voters: 52 people who voted for 6 riders each.
So, I'll make a few calls and get them to perform at the next meet then, eh? (Neil will STILL be rad, even from his new world!)
Thanks for taking part dudes!
:daumenhoch:
Dave
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Hold it Sister...........................I'll remind you "(Voting closes: July 03, 2006, 11:43 am) "
So what does poll closed etc mean??????
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Hold it Sister...........................I'll remind you "(Voting closes: July 03, 2006, 11:43 am) "
So what does poll closed etc mean??????
Don't know where that date came from Steve...probably that Phil tinkering...the closing date was Sunday as it stated in the title for AGES!
Come on, get with the plan.
;)
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yeah, its a bit hit and miss it seems, working the inner controls of these poll things.
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Hold it Sister...........................I'll remind you "(Voting closes: July 03, 2006, 11:43 am) "
So what does poll closed etc mean??????
Don't know where that date came from Steve...probably that Phil tinkering...the closing date was Sunday as it stated in the title for AGES!
Come on, get with the plan.
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So who changed it???? I had half a dozen people waiting to vote for Ruben :daumenhoch:
Thats a lowsy team by the way, Mirra and Ruffle but Bestwick!!! FFs!
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i demand a recount
how the hell did neil ruffle get more votes than carlo?
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should we send the winners a certificate? or a trophy like a BAFTA? we can have awards annually, where we all turn up in dinner suits and get pi$$ed :LolLolLolLol:
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Its all wrong!!! because.......Bestwick and Ruffle drew on votes that means Ruben should be in there :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
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Bestwick rules how can you not see that? You have to have a vert rider in your team who is better than Bestwick? Tell me why you dont like him Steve you must have inside information like I do on fiola.
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Bestwick rules how can you not see that? You have to have a vert rider in your team who is better than Bestwick? Tell me why you dont like him Steve you must have inside information like I do on fiola.
Andy i have but its no secret.............................................He's a Knob! I met him a few times when he was 15 and he was a knob then, there are lots of Pro vert riders that i know today who still know him and they say he's still a knob!!!! And there are a few better vert riders in the world that are better than him for lots of different reasons, you should talk to some of them sometime and you should ask them who the best vert rider in the world is? they wont say its Bessy i promise you!!.......dont listen to me but listen to people with a genuine in the know opinion.
My own opinion is that from past experience i cant stand him! I do however appreciate how good he is and that he has lots of X-games medal etc but for my whole judgement on the chap, i think his style is crap his attitude stinks and he lacks innovation but well done for pushing the limits...............The day of Judgement however is upon us >:D
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you know I know a lot of people that say the same thing about Tabron and I hate his style but Bestwick is a joy to watch I think. I will look at bessie in a different light now I really thought he was a good guy. I will have a chin wag when I see you at Bones I will tell you all about Tabron he only lived around the corner from me until he turned pro.
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you know I know a lot of people that say the same thing about Tabron and I hate his style but Bestwick is a joy to watch I think. I will look at bessie in a different light now I really thought he was a good guy. I will have a chin wag when I see you at Bones I will tell you all about Tabron he only lived around the corner from me until he turned pro.
I know quite alot about that young man as well, we'll sit and command the relms of these young upstarts and discuss our plans to redominate the freestyle world!!! :LolLolLolLol:
In the meantime look and read this lot.....this is the new guvnor and watch any vid wiv him in to see!!!
Enjoy!!!
The first link says it all!
http://www.morgangleave.co.uk/ruben.html
http://etniesbmx.com/team/ruben-alcantara/
http://www.terribleone.com/team/ruben/ruben.html
http://www.woozybmx.com/html/ruben_alcantara_bmx_chile.html
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i think his style is crap his attitude stinks and he lacks innovation
yeh double tailwhip flairs on vert are lame :)
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i think his style is crap his attitude stinks and he lacks innovation
yeh double tailwhip flairs on vert are lame :)
Get back to your endo's!!
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i think his style is crap his attitude stinks and he lacks innovation
yeh double tailwhip flairs on vert are lame :)
Get back to your endo's!!
i'll be gone before you know it
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i think his style is crap his attitude stinks and he lacks innovation
yeh double tailwhip flairs on vert are lame :)
Get back to your endo's!!
i'll be gone before you know it
Oi, you know what i said about innovation........and you said "yeh double tailwhip flairs on vert are lame" well you know what i said about innovation http://www.foxracing.com/sport/videos.cfm?nav4=5&sportID=2&videoID=19&sortby=&start=1 check the date and the last trick!
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bestwick was doing them at the same time as mirra steve
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It is awesome Steve but didnt bessie do it first?.
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It is awesome Steve but didnt bessie do it first?.
:LolLolLolLol: Yeah he did, same as he did the flair first on Sunday the 16th of September in Mansfield...........
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bestwick was doing them at the same time as mirra steve
Bet Mirra was doing them first though........and Dave did win Gold fella ;)
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you should support UK riders, depsite the beef you had with him when he was a kid
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you should support UK riders, depsite the beef you had with him when he was a kid
I do! Just not that one :LolLolLolLol: I ride a Proper bike remember which are really good by the way, and everyone should go out and buy one :daumenhoch:
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ryan niquist ;D