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Title: Tech engineer question
Post by: Gary72 on January 24, 2012, 08:56 PM
I should probably just ask Peterj but would get confused by the answer :-[
Why is it that when you tighten some bolts ie stem bolts that they make that creaking/screeching sound?
Is it friction between bolt and stem? The metal stretching? Am I just been to heavy handed?
Doesn't seem to do it with all bolts, I've heard it from stem, seat clamps etc.
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: pickle on January 24, 2012, 09:01 PM
Could be the types of metal, ie: steal nuts on alloy stems and clamps?
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: kungfunky on January 24, 2012, 09:02 PM
Screeching sound ?......Friction ?..... Stretching ?.....Yup Peter J's you man for this  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: CD17 on January 24, 2012, 09:04 PM
It will be friction between the stem wedge & the inside of the forks as you tighten  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: superbikedan on January 24, 2012, 09:06 PM
add grease :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: rooski on January 24, 2012, 09:10 PM
Its because theres no lubricant between the 2 parts,they are binding on each other,get some copper slip or grease on the threads and under the bolt head :daumenhoch:

Long bolts are worse as they twist slightly under load, then slip,causing the squeaking noise,some times you even get a spark :D
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: popedante on January 24, 2012, 09:14 PM
 fook all to do with the bolts , probably your wrist creaking    ;D
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: brummie on January 24, 2012, 09:17 PM
overtightening  :shocked:
the bars crimping  :-\
the seatclamp hairline fracturing  ???

 :D
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: Peter J on January 24, 2012, 09:19 PM
Not Friction as this is a different force, friction is caused when two surfaces are "pulled" across each other

I think you are describing stiction the frictional force to be overcome to set one object in motion when it is in contact with another

Basically you apply force to one part and at a particular point the (kinetic) energy stored in the material “gives” and moves rather than dispersing the energy into heat (friction) to creek you hear is the energy changing into sound (stiction).

Stiction is within the group of forces under the friction family.

A good example of stiction is when you tighten the wheel nuts up on your car and you get that creek as you finish tightening them up.

I can also give a long winded answer  ???
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: dan-dare on January 24, 2012, 09:21 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y31/dan-dare/Dan2049.jpg)
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: superbikedan on January 24, 2012, 09:21 PM
Not Friction as this is a different force, friction is caused when two surfaces are "pulled" across each other

I think you are describing stiction the frictional force to be overcome to set one object in motion when it is in contact with another

Basically you apply force to one part and at a particular point the (kinetic) energy stored in the material “gives” and moves rather than dispersing the energy into heat (friction) to creek you hear is the energy changing into sound (stiction).

Stiction is within the group of forces under the friction family.

A good example of stiction is when you tighten the wheel nuts up on your car and you get that creek as you finish tightening them up.

I can also give a long winded answer  ???


so is the answer,  add grease :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: Peter J on January 24, 2012, 09:23 PM
so is the answer,  add grease :LolLolLolLol:

 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on January 24, 2012, 09:24 PM


Spit on it
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: Gary72 on January 24, 2012, 09:28 PM
Thanks, Car wheel nut sound is the one :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: monkian on January 25, 2012, 09:24 AM
Not Friction as this is a different force, friction is caused when two surfaces are "pulled" across each other

I think you are describing stiction the frictional force to be overcome to set one object in motion when it is in contact with another

Basically you apply force to one part and at a particular point the (kinetic) energy stored in the material “gives” and moves rather than dispersing the energy into heat (friction) to creek you hear is the energy changing into sound (stiction).

Stiction is within the group of forces under the friction family.

A good example of stiction is when you tighten the wheel nuts up on your car and you get that creek as you finish tightening them up.

I can also give a long winded answer  ???


I'm so hot for you right now :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: Peter J on January 25, 2012, 09:31 AM
Do I make you moist  :coolsmiley:

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: monkian on January 25, 2012, 09:57 AM
Ooooo Can I ping your braces? ;D ;)
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: Peter J on January 25, 2012, 10:15 AM
 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Tech engineer question
Post by: Gary72 on January 25, 2012, 07:23 PM
Typical Rad thread, No more than 15 replies and it drops to gutter level ;)
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