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New School BMX 2004 - Now => New School Park, Street & Dirt => Topic started by: ratty67vw on January 26, 2012, 11:54 PM
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been thinking of buying myself a new school ride nothing expensive (.budget up to £300). just somthing to get me back on a bmx .
dont really want to spend to much incase i never get time to ride it
what would you guys recomend as a good all rounder (not that i expect to be able to do any tricks but im going to try :2funny:)
i dont know anything about new school bikes so any advice is appreciated
cheers
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Mongoose, and United do some bikes that may fit the bill, have a look for a higher priced (and spec) 2011 bike thats now being sold off due to 2012's new bikes!
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for that kind of money id be looking at these
http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/36625/Sunday_Gary_Young_AM_Bike_2011
http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/36621/Sunday_Aaron_Ross_AM_Bike_2011
this looks nice, shame its all hi-ten steel
http://www.customriders.com/prodshow.asp?prodid=14318&cat=1010&parent=9999&sid=3
give dave a call at the rad shop, im sure he will be able to sort you out a good deal for £300
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DO IT !!!! my old bikes are great for cruising around on but my new schoold bikes are just the dogs nads for proper punishment !
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Id be looking for a second hand custom, you will get loads for £300.
MM
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Id be looking for a second hand custom, you will get loads for £300.
MM
Wise words :daumenhoch:
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Yep. Secondhand custom if you can be bothered.
If you can't be arsed with all the homework, Stodgy has a sale on all through January. Give him a ring, see what's about.
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Id be looking for a second hand custom, you will get loads for £300.
MM
What Munnster said! :daumenhoch:
I got a stunner for that budget, and will never ride OS BMX beyond a RAD meet up again.
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got my mirraco for the princely sum of £110 (2009 black pearl 2)
not bad for a full cr-mo bike with only a few scratches on it and it means I've been able to swap a couple of bits without making it too expensive
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thanks for the wise words lads i shall do a bit of homework and see what happens .
not many places to buy quality bikes near to where i live ( i live in ireland ) you dont see many bmx,s around here :D .would like to try one out befor i buy one
may check some out next time i am in the uk .
thanks again .
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Mate,
Get down to your LBS and try a few out for geometry (TT Length, Standover, BB Height, Headtube angle etc.) then make a note of what suits you and get on eBay or pop up a wanted here! :daumenhoch:
Do your research and take your time and you WILL turn up a bargain, then you will never ride NS in any anger again! :shocked:
Clean. :coolsmiley:
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OK so i went to check out the local bike shops
most have nothing more than cheap looking kids bikes. but got directed to a shop that i was told would have a good selection of new school bmx.s
found the shop and went in he had 3 bmx,s ::) . 2 haros and a skyway big daddy somthing or other ??? .needless to say i was non to impressed .
i asked if i could try out one of the haros for size (just to see ) the young lad working there looked at me and said you do know these are kids bikes dont you . and dont you think your to old to be trying them out :tickedoff: :tickedoff: so not a good day at all
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Looks like you may have to travel a bit then...
Did the shop kid get a cheeky rabbit punch for his trouble?
Should have!!
Where in the country are you?
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WTP are good for money in the second hand market 8)
so many custom stuff out there - bit of a mind field as every one clams there's is the best and some are just tat if you don't know what your looking at - messed my head looking for one ::)
worth doing you home work and pick three and see what the members say about them on here ;) you get great advice from peeps who know what it's like trying to find a good one and not a POS :daumenhoch:
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thanks again for the advice
bendycat funny you should say about wtp bikes as i am looking at 2 at the moment (well waiting on some photos to be mailed to me )
1 is a bit ratty and the lads asking 130 euros the other looks quite smart and is 320 euros .will put up pics when i get them see wht people think
:D
on a different note i just bought a late 70,s early 80,s TANDEM should be fun :2funny: :2funny:
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well you can practice your tail whips till the NS comes up ;D
some times it's not the first one to come up - but see what folks on here have to say about it those two you are looking at ;)
I spent ages checking every thing out - missed 3 and landed this for a good price of £250 was £469
Stereo Electro 2011
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/stereo%20bmx/BSE2.jpg)
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been waiting on pictures for the last few days but they didnt send them . just got emails to say both bikes sold
so the search continues ;)
BENDYCAT thats a cool looking bike looks good value for the money
did you get it from jim yet or is he rideing it to death before you get a chance to :2funny: :2funny:
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it's sunday night/morning now - so it should be turning up on monday >:D just there's a load of shite snow outside ::) :'(
so when it gets here it will be set up and then sit in the lounge waiting - just don't tell the wife :daumenhoch: ;D
often happens - i had a load of bikes slip through my hands and loads of "will get pictures up" what they don't say is that they have put it on certain different sites and act as you are the only buyer ~ turns out they have been playing every one and sell it to some one who doesn't answer a thread and just goes straight to pm's with more money :2gunsfiring_v1:
keep looking and if you are not sure, stick it up on here and peeps will let you know if it's good or bad :daumenhoch:
cheers B ;)
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if you are not sure, stick it up on here and peeps will let you know if it's good or bad :daumenhoch:
and then buy it themselves via PM ;D
only joking, peeps on here are usually very helpful with stuff like this
except for that oldtired character, watch him he's been sticking pins in the wrist of a griff-shaped effigy he carries around in the hope that I'll flog it to him in an injured/weakened state
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What's your upper limit?
Decide what you're honestly prepared to pay, and then we can set about recommending a decent ride, rather than chasing supposed bargains that are bound to be compromised in one way or another.
Also, get in touch with Matt Gillespie who owns T13 skatepark in Belfast. He had loads of stuff for sale recently and knows every rider in Ireland as you might expect. I'm sure he'd be able to sort you out, if only to point you towards a real bmx shop instead of the clowns you've been dealing with so far.
At least he's on the same piece of land as you ;)
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I have never ridden a NS bike or indeed, participated in any other form of homosexual activity. But in both cases, I have heard that to begin with it feels very uncomfortable and awkward until you get used to it..
;)
So, is it true? Do NS bikes feel strange for a while? Yesterday, I discovered the most MENTAL dirt jumps about 500m from my house!! I defo want to start going there but not sure how wise that is on OS..
Paul
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Yep.
They feel COMPLETELY different to old school bikes. Modern bikes felt so long to me at first, but flew much more naturally through the air. Many fewer endos or loop outs when you're jumping. Riding quarters, they felt slower in the air, more stable.
People on this site are largely deluded, it bugs the hell out of me sometimes. They expect to hop on a new school bike, conveniently forgetting their often 20 years older and 3-4 stone heavier and then go on to moan how new school bikes are crap because they can't do the stuff they can, or could, on their old school bike.
Modern and old school bike are like apples and oranges.
And thank fcuk.
If you want to ride, spend a decent amount of money on the right tool for the job, go out and apply yourself a little bit. Expect to get hurt. Expect to have time off work. Expect to love it.
This is not an easy sport, never has been, never will be.
If you have trails on your doorstep, happy days. However, be sure the first time you turn up there, you turn up with a shovel and not a bike.
No dig, No ride. It's a global rule.
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If you have trails on your doorstep, happy days. However, be sure the first time you turn up there, you turn up with a shovel and not a bike.
No dig, No ride. It's a global rule.
Summed up trails in one go there :daumenhoch:
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thanks again lads for the advice
twobobrob i will check out the T13 skatepark and try and contact matt . ( i heard they have a facebook page ) as you say its on my side of the water lol so thats a good start mind you i am all the way down in the south . as for what i am prepared to pay for a new school ride i wasnt going to spend much more than £300 . mainly because i dont know if i will get to use it that much . if i do find myself useing it alot then i could always upgrade later . as for your other points well i aint affraid to get hurt and days off work ummm i work for myself so not a proplem ;D
Oh and i have a shovel :daumenhoch:
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:LolLolLolLol:
Ratts, my last post was aimed toward punkdSICO really, but the sentiment's the same. If you love riding though, you'll soon get to grips with the bikes, don't worry too much. £300 is a great amount of money to spend, you'll get a cracking s/h bike for that or a very decent new complete on offer somewhere.
Matt Gillespie is a cool bloke. Worst ways he'll hook you up with some riders down there with you, he knows everybody!
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The way i see it is, that when were young we learnt to ride our burners and gooses till we felt that we were one with them - and mostly people upgraded and started to learn there new machine and start to push the limit again till they learned more
the first time you get on a NS it feels like riding a plank - every thing feels solid and a bit hard, the cranks feel part of the frame and bars seem a long reach wide and far from you - with OS you feel close to the bike and parts - with NS you soon learn that you have room and the solid feeling turns to just riding just one part put together
like any thing - the more you use it - the more you start to feel how it will react to every thing - the more you have control the more you will get from it
each time you switch from NS to OS and back again, it will feel strange - but you get used to it
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any thoughts on this one good, bad , worth the money (300 euros new) details below.
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee414/rattty68/35581.jpg)
• Frame 100% Cr-Mo, Mid Size BB, Hiddenset w/screw on gyro tabs
• Headset - FSA Internal Sealed 1-1/8"
• Fork - Full Cr-Mo Fork 1-1/8"
• Bars - Kuwahara Cr-Mo 2-Piece
• Stem - Alloy Front Loader Stem
• Cranks - Cr-Mo Tubular 3-piece 175mm
• Hubs - Sealed Cassette Hubs Front & Rear
• Brakes - Linear U-Brake Calliper & Alloy Lever
• Tyres - 20 x 2.0"
• Colour - Copper or Silver
thanks
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Don't poke the old bear with a stick Paul... he will slowly lumber out of his cave and roar at the kids ;D
Ride what makes you happy and motivates you to get out there and DO IT ... if you are 40 plus then thats the important thing :daumenhoch:
Yep.
They feel COMPLETELY different to old school bikes. Modern bikes felt so long to me at first, but flew much more naturally through the air. Many fewer endos or loop outs when you're jumping. Riding quarters, they felt slower in the air, more stable.
People on this site are largely deluded, it bugs the hell out of me sometimes. They expect to hop on a new school bike, conveniently forgetting their often 20 years older and 3-4 stone heavier and then go on to moan how new school bikes are crap because they can't do the stuff they can, or could, on their old school bike.
Modern and old school bike are like apples and oranges.
And thank fcuk.
If you want to ride, spend a decent amount of money on the right tool for the job, go out and apply yourself a little bit. Expect to get hurt. Expect to have time off work. Expect to love it.
This is not an easy sport, never has been, never will be.
If you have trails on your doorstep, happy days. However, be sure the first time you turn up there, you turn up with a shovel and not a bike.
No dig, No ride. It's a global rule.
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As it happens, that bike looks fine. If it has proper real actual sealed bearings in those wheels and not some pony dust seal bollocks, then it's a bargain :daumenhoch:
Find out some dimensions first though bud, before you put your hand in your pocket, just in case it has some kooky toptube or summat.
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( i didnt poke that bear cos he was growling at me ;D )
back to the bike the dimensions are
Top Tube /Bottom Bracket /Seat Angle /Head Angle /Chainstays
Bravo 2.5 21" / 11.65" 71° / 74.5° / 13.75"
good /bad /
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how tall are you? 21" tt is good for a complete :daumenhoch:
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That's all bob on :daumenhoch:
You're not unusually short or tall are you?
What brand is that thing?
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That's all bob on :daumenhoch:
You're not unusually short or tall are you?
What brand is that thing?
Looks like a Kuwahara Bravo
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yes its a Kuwahara Bravo .
no i am not unusually tall ;D i am 5 foot 6 inches
so this may be worth a punt then ummmmm :daumenhoch:
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Go for it.
It might be a little bit long at 21"tt, but don't worry about that for your first ride. There's always a shorter stem out there and you can pull the bars back a smidge.
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looks alright >:D
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cult-CC00-2012-BMX-Complete-Black-and-Red-new-/120859411681?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item1c23c844e1
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i like the look of that :) have put it in my watched list :daumenhoch:
thanks bendy
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got offerd this last night its 2 months old and hardly been used 180 euros going to look at it tommorow
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee414/rattty68/54795-1dd.jpg)
specs below
Features:
• Frame: 100% Chromoly frame, with mini 5mm dropouts, machined Campy headtube & Mid BB shell
• Fork: Stolen Vortex OE 100% Tapered Chromoly micro dropout
• Cranks: Stolen MOB 3-piece Tubular Chromoly with pinch bolts, 175mm
• Bottom Bracket: Mid, Sealed bearing, 19mm 8 spline Heat-treated axle
• Pedals: Stolen Thermalite with Chromoly axle
• Sprocket: Stolen 6061 Alloy Eternity Ring 22 tooth
• Freewheel: 8T 1-Piece Chromoly Bushing-type Driver
• Chain: KMC Z410
• Rear Brake: Tektro 907 Forged Alloy U-brake
• Front Brake: Tektro
• Levers: Tektro XL510 Lever Medium Black
• Bars: Stolen Big Boy Chromoly 8.25" rise / 28.5" wide 10°back/2°up
• Stem: Stolen Convict III Alloy Front clamp 50mm reach
• Headset: Alloy Integrated Campy-type 45°/45°, Sealed Bearing
• Grips: Stolen Money Grip with Vortex Nylon BarPlugz
• Rear Hub: 36H Sealed Cassette, 14mm axle
• Front Hub: Sealed 36H, 3/8" axle
• Rims: Front and Rear:36H/STLN Revolver Double Wall
• Tyres: Front: Stolen/Tioga FS100 2.25" Rear: Stolen/Tioga FS100 2.1"
• Seat: Stolen PC-Boss Pivotal
• Seatpost: Stolen Thermalite Pivotal 25.4mm x 135mm
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Can't beat that for €180 :daumenhoch:
At that price it must be stolen! :2funny:
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Can't beat that for €180 :daumenhoch:
At that price it must be stolen! :2funny:
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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i don't know how tall you are but most completes like that stolen only come in 20" which for most of us oldies is a bit on the cramped side. if you're anywhere near or above 6 foot tall you'll need a 21" top tube :daumenhoch:
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still like the cult 8)
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Check out stodgy's Sunday in the for sale section. It's a Fooking give away!
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hi pickle
im 5foot 6 tall (short ;D )
going to look at it later . might just buy it anyway :)
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Here ya go dude:
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=139990.0
A bargain for sure.
Nice low BB and high bars make it ideal for old schoolers as it's more what you'll remember a bike to feel like...i.e. it doesn't push your bum so high in the air you feel like you are in front of the bars! These are much more stable and nice to ride.
Sunday are made by Odyssey, so quality for sure...we sell quite a few and always very reliable...in fact not one back from the 2012 range for anything!
I'd watch the quality on things like that Stolen and some of the other bikes mentioned in the thread...everything that glitters isn't necessarily gold. Believe me, we sell hundreds of bikes a year and you learn a lot by what comes back and what doesn't.
:daumenhoch:
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Bargain for the money and a good (and cool) brand to :daumenhoch:
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ok i went to see the stolen bike and i bought it .i got it for 160 euros which is about £130 so happy enough
its got a 20.75 top tube and to be honest feels ok when riding it (not as strange as i was expecting )
it might not be the best bike out there but for the money i wont complain :)
ok i will its a shite colour :2funny:
(the guy i got it from bought it from chain reaction cycles at christmas and paid 408 euros for it )
i am not giving up on getting a better bike i just thought this would do as a stop gap to get me riding again
thanks for all the advice it has been appreciated .as i said i know nothing about new school rides so will be learning along they way .
so what parts do you reckon are week points on this bike whats going to brake and fall off ;D
stodgy that sunday is a sweet looking bike and definatly at a bargin price .
Oh and i do take your point about all that glitters not being gold . :)
thanks again lads
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ok i went to see the stolen bike and i bought it .i got it for 160 euros which is about £130 so happy enough
its got a 20.75 top tube and to be honest feels ok when riding it (not as strange as i was expecting )
it might not be the best bike out there but for the money i wont complain :)
ok i will its a shite colour :2funny:
(the guy i got it from bought it from chain reaction cycles at christmas and paid 408 euros for it )
i am not giving up on getting a better bike i just thought this would do as a stop gap to get me riding again
thanks for all the advice it has been appreciated .as i said i know nothing about new school rides so will be learning along they way .
so what parts do you reckon are week points on this bike whats going to brake and fall off ;D
stodgy that sunday is a sweet looking bike and definatly at a bargin price .
Oh and i do take your point about all that glitters not being gold . :)
thanks again lads
that looks like a very good deal mate :daumenhoch:
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thanks griff
i am happy enough with it (till i find something i like ;D )
i have been rideing it today and have found out the biggest week point on the bike and the bit that fell off first
it was ME ;D must remember that i am not 14 anymore still been having great fun just wonder why i didnt do it sooner .
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thanks griff
i am happy enough with it (till i find something i like ;D )
i have been rideing it today and have found out the biggest week point on the bike and the bit that fell off first
it was ME ;D must remember that i am not 14 anymore still been having great fun just wonder why i didnt do it sooner .
That's what it is all about; looking at 'em only entertains for so long! :daumenhoch:
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Don't worry too much about what might break, just go riding. Upgrade stuff as you need to with the best available. You'll be on a high end custom before you know it ;)
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;D ;D ;D
well spent most of the day rideing the bike .
had a good day overall fell off a few times but just got back on and fell off again ;D
havent had this much fun getting hurt in years :2funny:
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee414/rattty68/006-2.jpg)
i not sure about the colour it might grow on me but the sticker on the bottom tube sucks looks like snowflakes :wtf:
so i changed it for somthing a little bit old school
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee414/rattty68/017-2.jpg)
yep put checkers on it . never thought that at 42 i would be changing stickers on a bmx ;D
UMMMM now how many sheets of ply do i need to build a half pipe
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..looks nice but I know nothing about n/s bikes..
How did it feel for you? Did it feel noticably different to your os bikes?
Good one..
Paul
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it does feel different but not as bad as i was expecting you tend to lean over the handle bars more but after a while you get used to it (great for doing endos ;D )
mind you i havent ridden an old school bike for years so maybe thats the reason it didnt feel to bad .
its just great fun being back on a bike . i would highly recomend it to anyone whos been thinking about it :daumenhoch:
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Id be looking for a second hand custom, you will get loads for £300.
MM
What Munnster said! :daumenhoch:
I got a stunner for that budget, and will never ride OS BMX beyond a RAD meet up again.
x2 :daumenhoch:
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Pull the bars back so they're in line with the forks it'll feel a lot better given time to get used to it... :daumenhoch:
The sample pic you posted earlier in the thread is correct... :police:
And move the brake levers down while you're at it... :daumenhoch:
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thanks Betty i will move the bars tomorrow ans see what its like :daumenhoch:
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And... stickers ruled BITD, and they rule now.
Embrace the stickeryness.
I love stickers.
MM
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thanks Betty i will move the bars tomorrow ans see what its like :daumenhoch:
a leap of faith, I agree, but you will notice everything is sharper, lighter, and ultimately more comfortable, even if a little contrary to what you are used to... Makes more sense from an engineering / physics / design perspective, tho', if you think about it! :daumenhoch:
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hi all
i moved the bars back and it does feel better :daumenhoch:
been haveing a great time just riding it around getting used to it
can still just about do a 360 and a few other tricks which suprised me as i hadnt ridden a bmx in almost 20 years
as they say its just like riding a bike :laugh: :laugh:
thanks again for all the advice :daumenhoch:
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geat stuff! glad you're having a blast, try and bag a few pictures :daumenhoch:
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I'm in the market for a new school too , glad i read this thread , cause i'm about the same height and reckon i'm gonna go for a 20.5" or 20.75" toptube .i'm watching a couple of Haro 500's on ebay , both for abour £260-£270, spec looks pretty good on them , and its a Haro , which always helps i.m.h.o ;D
I do love the look of the 2012 Chrome 000 brakeless but i'm not 100% sold on the brakeless thing while i'm getting back up to speed , had my zippo brakeless and it feels equally good and scary , at 40 i don't need scary .... :buck2:
Anybody have experience of the 2011 and 2012 Haro models?
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I would imagine there are better bikes per pound spent than Haro ones.
Haro, mongoose, GT and Diamond Back are now all owned by big companies, (pretty much)
Spend wisely, there is no rush, takes 40 years to get to this stage, enjoy the buzz and the hunt!!
MM
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Hi Dave
go for it man :daumenhoch:
the guys on here give good advice i find the frame size just right for my hight
and with the bars back in line with the forks the whole bike feels just right
i had not been on a bmx for years so was worried that i would not get the feel of a new school but i am getting there
have been trying to get out on the bike most days since i got it which also helps , i cant say wether Haro bikes are good or bad
i only bought the stolen because it was a bargin price and was fairly close to home (by close i meen it was 40 miles away :2funny: )
i like how the bike rides its smoothe and very free running .
so my advice is listen to what people say and go out and get a new school you wont regret it . :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: