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Title: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on February 01, 2012, 10:45 AM
Ok so been looking at old school and new skool bmx's

now we all collect OS and try to bring them back to life with a good resto and what they were like back in the day - right grips and levers - correct tires - bars and forks - right colour and decals

on the odd chance we have survivors and leave them as they are

right now cut to the new skool stuff - we buy them and start changing parts and give them a paint job that is cool - even strip the paint and heat up the tubs for a cool style look

doing that all on a NS is fine and acceptable - superbike dan has done loads of sweet jobs that we see and love and let the owner know

so why do we not see it as right with a crazy paint job on a OS bmx - with all parts changed - now before you say that some have, i know that this has been done in a handful of a members

but it seems we all want the OS bmx to look like what we bought them as and not what in the end we changed them into - i'm sure that we got the spray can out and stuck loads of stickers on + changed parts that we felt were better or later made parts when they wore out or bits came out that we wanted to put on in the later years

i would like to see who's bmxs have been restored to what they rode and what they changed into over the years - how many have done this ?

so it looks like we are happy to get a new skool bmx and change it as soon as we get it or later that year

if we get a OS bmx - it's striped and put back to how we bought it ?

please discuss  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: deeman on February 01, 2012, 11:15 AM
I can only guess that to restore something old,not to its original specification would be seen by most as 'bastardising' it or certainly devaluing it.And as far as resale is concerned,its easier to sell something restored to original condition,than something not so original with a wild paint finish.Its the same with cars or practically anything else,the more you customise or personalise,the more you limit your market when it comes to sell.Being as old school stuff is so expensive now i guess preserving that value is a concern for most people! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on February 01, 2012, 11:20 AM
what about if you don't have plans to sell it ?

how scorned on are you if you had a mongoose '82 and wanted it with a 90's wild paint ? or justa colour that was never used back in the day

is it more accetpable for 90's rides to look more wilder than 80's rides ?


like your answer by the way  ;)
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: bobbbbsy on February 01, 2012, 11:32 AM
i am mainly into primary colours personally.. if i had the choice to spray my car any colour it would be primary colour/shade!!
+ we do the bikes with period parts so naturally period colours and finishes!
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: CustardLips on February 01, 2012, 11:42 AM
The only bike i would build to OG spec is the GT Pro (nora) i had BITD obviously for sentimental reasons (if i ever get me hands on one). Apart from that i've got two others on the go, a 92' GT Interceptor and a 83' Redline 600a that are getting built how i want ! There's no chance they'll ever be sold so don't need to worry about sell-on value. Agree with what your saying though back then we spent all our time changing parts, now it seem everyone wants to change em' back !
Each to their own i suppose.  :)
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Devilock on February 01, 2012, 12:28 PM
If you want to see someones build as they had it BITD then one bike that springs to mind is Terry's Torker...
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on February 01, 2012, 03:15 PM
Forgive me for being a touch dense here but...I dont quite get what the question is? I have built all my bikes how I wanted them to be, as I think, looking at most builds, 90% of Rad members have. I haven't spent huge buckets of wonga to get them to be how they came out the shop, off the factory floor or how a certain rider had his/hers. I have built them all with no restored parts, exactly how I want them to look with the fundage I feel warrants the parts added. Not once have I built one thinking "how much resale value would it be to build it like this?"   :-\ :coolsmiley:

Does it not take away the joy and memories by building a shop spec ride? I built my Torker as I had it in the 80's and my Haroand Dp as I really want them  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Jon The Bassist on February 01, 2012, 04:29 PM
It's building fantasy bikes isn't it, even new bikes often had a different seat, grips, or tyres to what the supposed factory spec was. Virtually every bike that got ridden and used much ended up with bits being changed almost immediately.
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: john4130 on February 01, 2012, 05:27 PM
i've never built a bike to factory spec and i never did any research on what parts came with them. i may stick to using a few parts from the same company like f&f bars but the rest of the parts are just what i think will look good on it. they don't have to from the same year, just close enough is fine for me.
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Badbaldie on February 01, 2012, 05:41 PM
ive collected bits over the last few months to build the bike i had bitd. Mongoose cali , mike buff zds  ::) torker probars.. defo not one for the purists but like u say we all changed parts bitd . and to be honest i dont care what people may  think as it was MY bike that i rode ,thrashed and did all the mad stuff we did as kids. The only difference now is ............. it will be cleaned polished and just roll round  :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: rooski on February 01, 2012, 05:57 PM
My first bmx,a brand new bike had bits changed as soon as i got it,my rebuild will reflect this :daumenhoch:

As for crazy rattlecan finishes etc,fine,but best to use bits that could do with refinishing anyway :daumenhoch:

NS bikes,do what you like,it maybe looked upon as crazy in 30 years time though...................
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Pooch on February 01, 2012, 09:07 PM
OI!!! Bendy!!!! You o me £12.59 :yahoo_silent:
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on February 01, 2012, 09:14 PM
OI!!! Bendy!!!! You o me £12.59 :yahoo_silent:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss286/Kateme_01/whistle.gif)
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Pooch on February 01, 2012, 09:16 PM
OI!!! Bendy!!!! You o me £12.59 :yahoo_silent:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ss286/Kateme_01/whistle.gif)
What's that mean.. ???
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Pooch on February 01, 2012, 09:20 PM
Not saying anything.. See you on one of the rides a??
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on February 01, 2012, 09:48 PM
Forgive me for being dense :4_17_5:

nothing new there  ::)

Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on February 01, 2012, 09:54 PM
Forgive me for being dense :4_17_5:

nothing new there  ::)


(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/yawn.jpg)
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on February 01, 2012, 10:05 PM
fook off you bell end  :idiot2: :idiot2:
i thought that when you ran your mouth in that pm to me and i said stay out of my threads and i would do the same in yours, then you would not make your self look a fool again

if you don't like me, don't fooking talk to me you twat  ::)  and don't come onto my thread giving it mouth in a hidden way  :uglystupid2:

bye
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: bigfatolly on February 01, 2012, 10:48 PM
I did my Rickman as a replica  build of mine i had bitd.I did it exactly as it was before it got stolen in 86.

It had evolved from a burner into a Rickman with god knows how many parts along the way.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/oo68/bigfatolly/rickmanfs007.jpg)
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on February 01, 2012, 10:55 PM
looks sweet and sort of what i mean in half of the two ways - you build a bike back in the day to what parts you wanted and what replaced others - the second half was colours and stickers - i know some try to work out what stickers they had on frames from pictures

so on the rickman, did you have a pic or just remember all the parts, as it was what you want it to have in the end (bitd) ?
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Robbo on February 02, 2012, 01:24 PM
fook off you bell end  :idiot2: :idiot2:
i thought that when you ran your mouth in that pm to me and i said stay out of my threads and i would do the same in yours, then you would not make your self look a fool again

if you don't like me, don't fooking talk to me you twat  ::)  and don't come onto my thread giving it mouth in a hidden way  :uglystupid2:

bye

 :2funny:  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: dordymush on February 02, 2012, 01:39 PM
im just doing a 85 performer that will be mad colours and well stickered up like bitd.
sick of seeing the same old builds  :-\
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: mattuknc on February 02, 2012, 01:45 PM
The few bikes I've put together of late have been ones I could never have afforded bitd, and it's nice to now get my hands on them!  :D
If I was to do my old blue/ yellow mag burner that I had, I think I'd have trouble finding those little stickers you used to get with your shreddies to put on my handle bars for my 'power boost' button!  :2funny: (Knight rider style)
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: griff on February 02, 2012, 03:26 PM
easier to do it to a NS bike as otherwise they can look quite boring (I know that there are subtle differences but from a distance it's hard to tell a lot of them apart with the stickers off)

although hardly any of the bits on my haro are the 'right' year I just put the bits on I thought would look nice/could afford
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: AKGOFF on February 02, 2012, 04:05 PM
I think I'm right and you're wrong Bendy Boy in any given situation.
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Pooch on February 02, 2012, 08:57 PM
I think I'm right and you're wrong Bendy Boy in any given situation.
???
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: AKGOFF on February 02, 2012, 09:20 PM
I think I'm right and you're wrong Bendy Boy in any given situation.
???

Leave it John you twat
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Jaymz on February 02, 2012, 09:26 PM
I build to ride and build to budget, build bike with whatever i have hanging around then slowly replace parts as they come up at bargain prices, my freestyler is a prime example of me building as i would bitd, its started off proper budget with cheap cranks, chainring, fake brakes, fake cables, headset, grips, pedals and bit by bit i've replaced all the bits and now have a pretty good non era correct bike, as I wouldve bitd!!

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268285_10150290431826942_668306941_8874729_2910653_n.jpg)

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/264697_10150303115386942_668306941_8995192_2351392_n.jpg)

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229794_10150321217466942_668306941_9181565_1975654_n.jpg)

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263274_10150335486421942_668306941_9335180_1085164_n.jpg)

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376373_10150512603681942_668306941_10325329_418637973_n.jpg)

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/405073_10150571539176942_668306941_10568985_1466639988_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: animal on February 02, 2012, 09:31 PM
No rules in my book . everything goes just like bitd  :daumenhoch: Most of our bikes were miss mashed colours etc bitd anyway , left over burner stuff etc .
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Pooch on February 02, 2012, 09:44 PM
I think I'm right and you're wrong Bendy Boy in any given situation.
???

Leave it John you twat
Fook ya self...
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: dordymush on February 02, 2012, 09:48 PM
wtf is wrong with you lot ?  ???.
why not meet up have a good punch up like proper men and get over it  :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Peter J on February 02, 2012, 09:52 PM
wtf is wrong with you lot ?  ???.
why not meet up have a good punch up like proper men and get over it  :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:

 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: Pooch on February 02, 2012, 09:53 PM
wtf is wrong with you lot ?  ???.
why not meet up have a good punch up like proper men and get over it  :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Yes please :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on February 02, 2012, 10:01 PM
Pooch and Guff are like Tom and Gerry  ;D  just a bit dumber  :crazy2: :uglystupid2:

the rest should have been left closed behind the doors - but certain peeps just don't know when to let things lie  ::)


******

it's intresting when you start to dig into what members see is a resto build / a build that they wanted back in the day / parts of what is left around to make some thing to ride / replacing cerial stickers and spoke badges / parts that they had on a certain ride that they loved / colour choice / or original resto back to shop bought

each one of these makes up a story ~ apart of the bmx history, and how it made us feel when we rode back in the day ~ right back to what and how we choose parts for builds today

 :daumenhoch: cheers B  - carry on   ;)
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: bigfatolly on February 02, 2012, 10:03 PM
@Bendy,yep had a couple of photos and a good memory,it was a weird feeling sitting on it for the first time after i built it :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on February 02, 2012, 10:08 PM
strange as i remember putting different decals/stickers on my rides but can't remember which one's

must of been weird standing over it and seeing it like you remember but being a lot bigger now  ??? ;D
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: hunterdubber on February 02, 2012, 11:10 PM
I'd say anything goes on a build ,, got to admit I'm a bit of a stickler  for era correct though , ( but its your bike do what you want)
but custom or bikes as you had em are well cool.  8)
because they are what we really rode round on with our own personal twists :4_17_5:

The thing is it's the owner the appreciates it the most (sentimental value) as they can be often be quite a mish mash and wacky colour combos   :idiot2:  :-[
 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on February 02, 2012, 11:37 PM
I think I'm right and you're wrong Bendy Boy in any given situation.

the only right and wrong here is - you not right in the head and there is some thing wrong in the head with you mate  ;D   :-* :P

now play nicely with sploochy  :D
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on February 02, 2012, 11:41 PM
I'd say anything goes on a build ,, got to admit I'm a bit of a stickler  for era correct though , ( but its your bike do what you want)
but custom or bikes as you had em are well cool.  8)
because they are what we really rode round on with our own personal twists :4_17_5:

The thing is it's the owner the appreciates it the most (sentimental value) as they can be often quite mish mash and wacky colour combos   :idiot2:  :-[
 :daumenhoch:

chris that is the OCD in you - go on do a build with mish-mash colours  >:D ;D
Title: Re: Right or Wrong ?
Post by: hunterdubber on February 03, 2012, 12:19 AM
I'd say anything goes on a build ,, got to admit I'm a bit of a stickler  for era correct though , ( but its your bike do what you want)
but custom or bikes as you had em are well cool.  8)
because they are what we really rode round on with our own personal twists :4_17_5:

The thing is it's the owner the appreciates it the most (sentimental value) as they can be often quite mish mash and wacky colour combos   :idiot2:  :-[
 :daumenhoch:

chris that is the OCD in you - go on do a build with mish-mash colours  >:D ;D


Sorry Bendy,, you've just made me get cold sweats  :LolLolLolLol:

I'm afraid my brain would go to a blue screen and request the "Recovery disk" to re-boot  :D
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