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Title: Hoffman sugar daddy. UPDATE
Post by: lk_97 on February 10, 2012, 06:17 PM
Anyone got any info one these? Who designed them? Did they come as a complete bike? How much did they cost new? Has anyone got any sticker scans or brochure pictures?

Thanks :daumenhoch:

( Daddy changed Baby  :daumenhoch: )
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: Jaymz on February 10, 2012, 06:50 PM
Ash has one of the nicest restored ones ive seen, his decals were from Del, also the big daddy and sugar baby were the same frame i believe

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ac149/nosher70/26052011169.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ac149/nosher70/26052011167.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ac149/nosher70/04062011181.jpg)
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: lk_97 on February 10, 2012, 07:02 PM
Thanks for showing them, I was gonna get it sprayed neil ruffel orange, white ez bars, make it look old school, but with 9t skyways, after seeing those I might actually restore it with era correct ish parts, but have skyways on it still
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: Jaymz on February 10, 2012, 07:07 PM
here;s the spec of ash's
some of it is new school!!

Big daddy F&F powdered white
New decal set
Dominator repro seat,
Renthal layback post,
Hoffman seat clamp,
DiaCompe FS880 front with potts
Xposure rear brake
Oddy gyro,
Xposure levers
Redline twin pinch flites & sealed BB,
profile chainwheel
Comp ST copies
Baby blue tuffs,
Ame round grips,
Hoffman low rider bars,
Spare set of Alex 48 spoke  wheels with Odyssey aitken black tyres
Generic opc,
Hoffman chainwheel,
Hoffman post,
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: lk_97 on February 10, 2012, 07:10 PM
Thanks for that mate, I'm thinking white frequency G tyres, tuffs, then some 3 piece cranks,pivotal seat and post, but then the rest non new school :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: Jaymz on February 10, 2012, 07:15 PM
Thanks for that mate, I'm thinking white frequency G tyres, tuffs, then some 3 piece cranks,pivotal seat and post, but then the rest non new school :daumenhoch:
gonna have to be a long pivotal mate, those hoffmans wont look any good with a slammed seat
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: lk_97 on February 10, 2012, 07:23 PM
Ohh, I have a hemorrhoid type seat on it now, it also has hoffman wheels with skidmark tyres but I'm gonna get rid of them
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: revcore on February 10, 2012, 09:28 PM
Flatland legend Kevin Jones designed the Big Daddy frame.
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: ED209 on February 10, 2012, 09:36 PM
Alright Lucas... do you mean a 'Sugar Baby' ... don't think there was a Sugar Daddy  ;)

Ash's one used to be mine ... he wanted to redo it as a white Big Daddy ... it was in a pretty good condition before that.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/P1010554.jpg)

I've got a full page advert from Hoffman from a 96 Ride mag I can scan for ya.

The parts on it when I had it were pretty mush stock apart from the tyres, seat post, seat  :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/P1010539.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/P1010531-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: ED209 on February 10, 2012, 09:41 PM
lovely bike ... just a bit short pour moi

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/P1010111.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/P1010112.jpg)
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: Jaymz on February 10, 2012, 09:46 PM
lovely bike ... just a bit short pour moi

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/P1010111.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/P1010112.jpg)
om nom nom nom nom nom
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: ED209 on February 10, 2012, 09:48 PM
Might have a spare pair of Hoffman Low Drags if you need them Lucas  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: hunterdubber on February 10, 2012, 10:44 PM
I can feel myself getting the horn to build a 90's Hoffman this year  :smitten:


lovely bikes there  ;)

Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: lk_97 on February 11, 2012, 11:11 AM
Might have a spare pair of Hoffman Low Drags if you need them Lucas  :daumenhoch:

PM sent mate :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy
Post by: lk_97 on February 11, 2012, 06:13 PM
I can feel myself getting the horn to build a 90's Hoffman this year  :smitten:


lovely bikes there  ;)



Get one,they are nice :), I have some hoffman generator rims to formula hubs with some hoffman skidmark tyres I'm getting rid of. Along with some hoffman jumping bars and a primo hemorrhoid style seat.
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: Jaymz on February 11, 2012, 06:17 PM
could be tempted by the primo seat for my DK pending condition/price/possible trades
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: welsh denny on February 12, 2012, 01:04 PM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/q14/dennydyer/DSC_1214edit.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/q14/dennydyer/DSC_1213edit.jpg)

my hoffman sd 4 done up as a neil ruffell retro style.. the big daddy was kevin jones creation. the sugar baby was a later lower end complete bike with cro mo downtube and seatube i think so not full cr mo but same geometry.

the sd 4 was after kevin had left hoffman bikes and they built completes in full cr mo with the same geometry just changed some of the tubing sizes etc. no headtube gussett, ad lugs front and rear, oval top and downtubes.
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: lk_97 on February 12, 2012, 01:57 PM
Mine has ad lugs, oval tob and bottom tubes, I don't know whether do it with ez bars, blue skyways, get it respayed white, white tanwalls with pivotal etc, or restore it? Or a mix of both? With the original decals and mid school bars?
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: ED209 on February 12, 2012, 07:50 PM
Sugar Baby was full Cro-mo... exactly the same as the Big Daddy but a different name so Kevin Jones 'stopped getting paid' ( quote! )

http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/BikeSpecs.aspx?Year=1997&Brand=Hoffman&Model=Sugar+Baby+%2801%29&Type=bike

http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/index.php'showtopic=27013274
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: lk_97 on February 12, 2012, 11:53 PM
Thanks guys, think im gonna get a peregrine disk, lavender tuffs, white tanwall freq g tyres, blue jive grips, then new stickers and a respray, and a white or lavender seat
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: hunterdubber on February 13, 2012, 11:44 PM
Build fashion police rules  :police:  :D

section 211 paragraph 3 states


Grips and seat must be the same colour  on a build  :police:


 :daumenhoch:  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: Betty on February 13, 2012, 11:53 PM
Build fashion police rules  :police:  :D

section 211 paragraph 3 states


Grips and seat must be the same colour  on a build  :police:


 :daumenhoch:  :LolLolLolLol:


My Holmes must have done your head in, red grips and black seat...  :LolLolLolLol:

Done it right with the Dirtbike...  :police:

Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: lk_97 on February 14, 2012, 12:15 AM
Gonna go for white grips actually, I have some nos odi tech 7's actually :daumenhoch: I bought this as a sugar daddy, is it a sugar daddy or sugar baby? ;D
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: brettypeeps on February 14, 2012, 12:16 AM
same frames as I understand it,  different paint :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: hunterdubber on February 14, 2012, 12:42 AM
Gonna go for white grips actually, I have some nos odi tech 7's actually :daumenhoch: I bought this as a sugar daddy, is it a sugar daddy or sugar baby? ;D

Big Daddy or a sugar baby

hell it could be a Sugar daddy or a Big Baby  :D


Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: hunterdubber on February 14, 2012, 12:47 AM
Build fashion police rules  :police:  :D

section 211 paragraph 3 states


Grips and seat must be the same colour  on a build  :police:


 :daumenhoch:  :LolLolLolLol:


My Holmes must have done your head in, red grips and black seat...  :LolLolLolLol:

Done it right with the Dirtbike...  :police:




Mark the frame was that beautiful  :smitten: , it lured my eyes away from the offending mistake  :LolLolLolLol:









for a while ,,, then it did my head in  :D





Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: ED209 on February 17, 2012, 07:45 AM
Gonna go for white grips actually, I have some nos odi tech 7's actually :daumenhoch: I bought this as a sugar daddy, is it a sugar daddy or sugar baby? ;D

No Daddy... only Baby

http://bmxmuseum.com/search/?q=Hoffman+Sugar+Daddy&type=bikes

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: lk_97 on February 17, 2012, 07:47 AM
Gonna go for white grips actually, I have some nos odi tech 7's actually :daumenhoch: I bought this as a sugar daddy, is it a sugar daddy or sugar baby? ;D

No Daddy... only Baby

http://bmxmuseum.com/search/?q=Hoffman+Sugar+Daddy&type=bikes

 :daumenhoch:

Ahh, thanks :daumenhoch: so big daddy stickers wouldn't be right for this bike?
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: ED209 on February 18, 2012, 10:54 PM
Gonna go for white grips actually, I have some nos odi tech 7's actually :daumenhoch: I bought this as a sugar daddy, is it a sugar daddy or sugar baby? ;D

No Daddy... only Baby

http://bmxmuseum.com/search/?q=Hoffman+Sugar+Daddy&type=bikes

 :daumenhoch:

Ahh, thanks :daumenhoch: so big daddy stickers wouldn't be right for this bike?

Lucas... its your bike so you do whatever you want to  :4_17_5:

My old one looked great when Ash did it in white with Big Daddy stickerss... personally I would have left it but it wasn't my bike. They are a bit short if you want to ride it in anger tho bud  :)


Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: lk_97 on February 18, 2012, 11:55 PM
I scored a set of chrome bars, and a 1" ruption stem, but the bars need an id, gonna put them on the hoffman along with some white gt ame grips, a new lever, and found a macneil chainring too, then just a seat! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: ED209 on February 22, 2012, 08:09 PM
Lucas... you seen these  :daumenhoch:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Matt-Hoffman-BMX-Big-Daddy-Original-Full-Decal-Set-NOS-Old-Mid-School-BMX-/300664837689?_trksid=p4340.m503&_trkparms=algo%3DRIC.CFNP%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D110825125965%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6515288481255099370
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: lk_97 on February 22, 2012, 08:23 PM
Yeah I have mate thanks, I'm hoping to get them for the start price :) if I get them and when I fit some new bars, grips, chainwheel, I might see what it's worth, because I'd love a 1" s&m bike
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: ED209 on February 23, 2012, 11:58 AM
Yeah I have mate thanks, I'm hoping to get them for the start price :) if I get them and when I fit some new bars, grips, chainwheel, I might see what it's worth, because I'd love a 1" s&m bike

Lucas you are an old man in a childs body... but you need to ride more! get down the Boardroom FFS!
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: Dannywhac on February 23, 2012, 12:35 PM
Yeah I have mate thanks, I'm hoping to get them for the start price :) if I get them and when I fit some new bars, grips, chainwheel, I might see what it's worth, because I'd love a 1" s&m bike

 but you need to ride more!

X2 - do it whilst ya knees don't pop asnd your hips don't creak :)
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: pickle on February 23, 2012, 03:14 PM
best decals ever designed in my opinion  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: lk_97 on February 23, 2012, 04:47 PM
Yeah I have mate thanks, I'm hoping to get them for the start price :) if I get them and when I fit some new bars, grips, chainwheel, I might see what it's worth, because I'd love a 1" s&m bike

Lucas you are an old man in a childs body... but you need to ride more! get down the Boardroom FFS!

 :LolLolLolLol: gonna try to get down to the next one :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: lk_97 on February 25, 2012, 03:37 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400272156192'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 would this fit a one piece crank? I'm coming down to boardroom on the 10th and I might get a ramp so I can practice more(the nearest park is about a 45 min ride and it's awful.)
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: m1ke on February 25, 2012, 03:48 PM
that will fit your opc nee bother  8) cheap that too  8)
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar baby
Post by: lk_97 on February 25, 2012, 03:52 PM
that will fit your opc nee bother  8) cheap that too  8)

Thanks, gonna buy it soon then :), also winning the decal set! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hoffman big daddy UPDATE
Post by: lk_97 on March 03, 2012, 06:33 PM
Got these for it:

(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4992/dscf0776d.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/dscf0776d.jpg/)

Won these on eBay! ;)

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3663/dscf0771m.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/dscf0771m.jpg/)

A NOS set of hoffman big daddy decals  8)

Then got this for a bargain too:

(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/7001/dscf0772x.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/542/dscf0772x.jpg/)

(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8804/dscf0773z.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/dscf0773z.jpg/)

(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/715/dscf0774c.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/dscf0774c.jpg/)

A NOS macneil 45t sprocket

Just need to buy a hinged lever and then I'll fit it all, should be done for boardroom next week! The seats not very good condition so if anyone has a nice mid school seat I'm interested, oh does anyone know how to remove chainwheels?
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy. UPDATE
Post by: Munnyella on March 03, 2012, 10:21 PM
Bring an old seat to the Boardroom, I'll re cover it in suede for you, its pale brown, proper mid colour, and free.

and I can tell you how to remove a chainwheel.

M
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy. UPDATE
Post by: Jaymz on March 03, 2012, 10:25 PM
Good score on the decals fella. 45t rung is nice your gonna build some leg muscles with that bad boy, I'd stick a 17t freewheel on with that
Title: Re: Hoffman sugar daddy. UPDATE
Post by: lk_97 on March 03, 2012, 10:37 PM
Thanks guys, I'll bring the hoffman to boardroom Munny, and thanks on the seat :daumenhoch: shall i bring the macneil chainwheel along with me then? Got most of the stickers on, just need to fit the downtube and one fork decal, gonna test it out tomorrow :)
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