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Title: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: SaMAlex on February 20, 2012, 10:21 AM
I had a bit of a tidy up at the weekend and took a pic of some of the frames stashed at the back of the shed
I only really have 1-inch bikes (apart from my real bike) but Ive picked up a few early 1 1/8 frames along the way.

"Oh My Back!"  :shocked:


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Bikes/HeavyMetalBikes1.jpg)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on February 20, 2012, 10:35 AM
Hernia time :) Love the late 90's heavy metal bikes - riding the buggers gave you a six-pack though - all that lifting.......
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: kev-s on February 20, 2012, 10:42 AM
nice, loving the grips on the oversized dirtbike :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: SaMAlex on February 20, 2012, 10:48 AM
nice, loving the grips on the oversized dirtbike :daumenhoch:


The Oversized Dirtbike is my mate Ian's*. He doesnt BMX much any more and that bike "lives" at mine. He has some other nice BMX's too, which I might get out of him one day!  ;)




*(Ian "Vert Squirt" Osborne, he was in BMX Action bike a few times in the 80s)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on February 20, 2012, 10:56 AM
You need a Call Girl just to top that collection off :)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: SaMAlex on February 20, 2012, 11:02 AM
You need a Call Girl just to top that collection off :)


Why stop with a Call Girl? OS Holmes, Next Gen Holmes, PBR & Bennet (I rode both of those frames for a while). There are/were quite a few S&M frames, which is why i drew the line at 1" ones. I dont wanna have 40+ bikes! haha

K9 11
Mad Dog
Dirtbike x 2
Holmes x 3
24" cruiser
Challenger
Widow maker 24"
Dirtbike with standing platform
Menstural Cycle
Heavy as F**k
OS Dirtbike
OS Holmes
OS Challenger
OS 24" Challenger
Race Version
Trails Version
24" Race Version
Sabbath
Warpig
Sabbath Lite
Next Gen Dirtbike
Next Gen Holmes
Call Girl (Shaun Butler)
Kris Bennett
Neal Wood
PBR
Black Bike
Matt Beringer
Classic Dirtbike
Classic Holmes
Josh Stricker
LAF
Mini Cobra 16"
38 special
38 special 24"
LTF
Josh Stricker
Randy Brown
Camaron Wood
Tony Cardona
(this list is NOT up to date!  :))
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on February 20, 2012, 11:11 AM
Forgot about the Bennet if we're talking heavy late midschoolery  :D

I've got a spare room and cellar/loft full of 7lbs+ frames that I'm too scared to ride for fear of damaging my now flimsy body - none of them S&M though  :shocked:
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: SaMAlex on February 20, 2012, 11:18 AM
My first OverSized bike was a Next Gen Dirtbike. It was just too much. Then I had a normal OverSized Dirtbike, then a Challenger, a Bennet and a PBR, and then back to the Challenger (and even that was heavy!). I didnt really get on with the weight of any of them  :'(
God bless the LAF!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: kev-s on February 20, 2012, 11:22 AM
what other bikes does your friend have then alex?

my oversized holmes weighs quite a bit, cant believe i learnt wall taps on it around 7 years ago :shocked: :shocked:

but saying that my new school dirtbike isnt light! gotta be 26-27lbs atleast!!
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on February 20, 2012, 11:26 AM
God bless the LAF!  :daumenhoch:

You're not wrong there  :daumenhoch:

The other thing with the late 90's/early 00's were the bloody forks - weighing in at nearly the same as the frames (well, bit of an over-exaggeration...) - I remember going from using on dirt DK race forks to DK Streets - front end of the bike just wouldn't stay pointing in the right direction :)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: SaMAlex on February 20, 2012, 11:52 AM
what other bikes does your friend have then alex?


He has some 80s tat. His old Hutch, a few Loop-tail PKs (I think the blue one pictured is in my shed), maybe a TA / Aero Burner or 2 (he went tho loads of both of them, he was well into the DBI thing).


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/30Image4.jpg)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/33Image1.jpg)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/43Cover1.jpg)




He might still have a 1" dirtbike but I think thats gone. I know he has a very nice Early OverSized Challenger cos I found it for him not long ago  :daumenhoch:


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Bikes/SMSet2.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Bikes/SMSet1.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Bikes/Challengerheadset3.jpg)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: m1ke on February 20, 2012, 03:37 PM
jealous aint the word  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Jaymz on February 20, 2012, 05:22 PM
Nice line up Alex, that Blue Sabbath would look great next to my Blue RV
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: fugazi on February 20, 2012, 07:10 PM
That Sabbath would look even better next to Mine, as would the Warpig, I can't find One anywhere!
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: kev-s on February 20, 2012, 09:52 PM
cool mag pics and the challenger looks nice, although for some reason the headtube looks huge to me, i know its a oversize challenger but it just looks so big
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on February 29, 2012, 06:07 PM
Speaking of heavy metal - looky what turned up for me today - an S&M Kris Bennett + Pitch's. Didn't realise these were made by Kastan.......

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/KrisBennett.jpg)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: kev-s on February 29, 2012, 08:13 PM
 :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: 










 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on February 29, 2012, 08:20 PM
:knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1:  

 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:

 ;D You got me back though Kev - STANDARD PEGS!

Think there might be an interesting story behind these frames - seems they came out around the time that S&M started full blown in-house production? Either the dropouts are Kastan made (as S&M didn't have a laser cutter at the time or summit?) or Kastan made em for em - the serials on the BB, other one's have the serial as per on one of the drops, some have 'USA' on the seatstay wishbone, some don't..... good old S&M  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Jaymz on February 29, 2012, 08:25 PM
Speaking of heavy metal - looky what turned up for me today - an S&M Kris Bennett + Pitch's. Didn't realise these were made by Kastan.......

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/KrisBennett.jpg)
was that the one off retrobike danny, i hovered over that for a while but had just won the dragonfly, so stopped myself
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on February 29, 2012, 08:27 PM
Speaking of heavy metal - looky what turned up for me today - an S&M Kris Bennett + Pitch's. Didn't realise these were made by Kastan.......

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/KrisBennett.jpg)
was that the one off retrobike danny, i hovered over that for a while but had just won the dragonfly, so stopped myself

It was Jaymz - Kev got a great deal on a Phat Jack (and now I think if we ever meet he's gonna lump me ;) )
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Jaymz on February 29, 2012, 08:33 PM
Speaking of heavy metal - looky what turned up for me today - an S&M Kris Bennett + Pitch's. Didn't realise these were made by Kastan.......

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/KrisBennett.jpg)
was that the one off retrobike danny, i hovered over that for a while but had just won the dragonfly, so stopped myself

It was Jaymz - Kev got a great deal on a Phat Jack (and now I think if we ever meet he's gonna lump me ;) )
:LolLolLolLol:

what were the bars he had for sale looked nice but kev got there first
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on February 29, 2012, 08:50 PM
They were We The People Everlast's fella - the first thing WTP manufactured :)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Jaymz on February 29, 2012, 08:52 PM
They were We The People Everlast's fella - the first thing WTP manufactured :)
quite a score then, looked a nice shape
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on February 29, 2012, 08:58 PM
Yeah - similar to Castillo's with a V crossbar :)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: kev-s on March 01, 2012, 04:35 AM
lol ur ok danny im no fighter :daumenhoch:

glad a fellow s&m nut got it

the standard pegs were just a lucky spot and a cheaky ask if he would sell them :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: elevensies on March 01, 2012, 09:51 AM
For a dirt jumper, Bennett really over built that frame, I bet he never actually rode one tho, looks too fecin heavy.
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on March 01, 2012, 09:53 AM
For a dirt jumper, Bennett really over built that frame, I bet he never actually rode one tho, looks too fecin heavy.


X2 - weighs in at nearly the same as my S.O.B.  :D
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on March 01, 2012, 10:00 AM
Here we go - inside right dropout:

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/KrisBRearDrop.jpg)

And BB serial:

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/KrisBBBSerial.jpg)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: SaMAlex on March 01, 2012, 10:01 AM

Here's my Bennet and my PBR. I didnt really like either of them   :'(

I didnt like the "droopy erection" toptube wishbone on the Bennet.  :-X
I didnt like the low chainstays on the PBR.  >:(
And they were both way to heavy!  :shocked:

(I sold both of them on Ebay for under £50 each. I would have like to still have them both now)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/parts%20for%20sale/Bennet_frame-1.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/parts%20for%20sale/PBR_frame1.jpg)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: Dannywhac on March 01, 2012, 10:34 AM
Them drops on the PBR are a bit '90's Standard' - (just to add I'm not slagging off Standard!). Is that rear left drop on the KB larger than the right (looks almost like it's a freewheel protector drop) or is it just shadow?

You and Kev can have first dib dobs on the KB if I ever get shot :)
Title: Re: Some Late Mid (HEAVY!) S&M bikes
Post by: SaMAlex on March 01, 2012, 11:07 AM
Them drops on the PBR are a bit '90's Standard'

Yeah, they totally are. I hated the early standard dropouts (which were way lower than the PBR)



Is that rear left drop on the KB larger than the right (looks almost like it's a freewheel protector drop) or is it just shadow?

Yeah, i did that on a few frames. Got the chain side dropout made bigger to protect the (16t) freewheel. I did it on my A-head challenger as well but I ground it all back again so they were the same.

I also put rear facing chain adjusters on the Bennet. They worked SO well, but didnt look very slick.
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