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Title: what do you think
Post by: rollin72 on May 05, 2012, 10:35 PM
just wondering what your views on this are. Last week I bought a set of Hutch ladder bars off here and paid a lot for them, now they have turned up and on the top cross bar the chrome has rubbed off down to raw metal at each end, this wasnt described in the original thread
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=144309.0
ive sent him a pm but he hasnt logged on for a couple of days, what do you think should be a fair outcome to this

nice1 Gaz
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: WARDY on May 05, 2012, 10:41 PM
if you aint happy and it wasn't described gaz then refund or some back for you to get em sorted if thats what ya wanna do
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on May 05, 2012, 10:48 PM
I'm sort of involved in this  ??? as i sold my Laser bars to Arno, and he sold the ladder buff bars to you to buy mine.

I have been in pm's with him in the last couple of days

he's waiting for mine /his bars - trying to send out monday

just wanted to let you know my side if i get bought on board about the bars


cheers B  ;)
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: WARDY on May 05, 2012, 10:50 PM
failing that find out what city centre he shops in and go pick his pockets
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: rollin72 on May 05, 2012, 10:54 PM
and I sold my bars to Joff to get these ;D
when your asking for top $$$ the issues should have been described, there's enough pictures of the bars..just not the areas there's a problem with ???
I dont think the condition reflects the price

he's in Holland :D
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: snav69 on May 05, 2012, 10:56 PM
Part refund Gaz  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: Jaymz on May 05, 2012, 10:59 PM
Not cool beans. If bendy has payment for his bars, then maybe we could ransom bars  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: kalex on May 05, 2012, 11:07 PM
how did you pay as gift or purchase,

about gift payments i can't see what benifits there are to pay this way now as there are fee's involved ( i've only noticed in the last month). the seller could always ask for slightly more to compensate for purchase fee's. i presume it's 4% for gift or purchase. then everyone is covered if this happens.

plus the seller will have your address on paypal invoice then
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: stu27 on May 05, 2012, 11:10 PM
youll be on the continent in a few weeks gaz
have a little detour if no joy
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: hunterdubber on May 05, 2012, 11:12 PM
I've noticed the for sale thread  has been edited after the time you dibbed them ,, and the description mentions brake lever rub , has this info been added after sale  .It wasn't edited to mark as Sold :-\


For sale ads on Ebay work that either you both agree on a part refund amount or full refund and you ( the buyer)stand the return postage .

Hope this gets resolved pronto  :)
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on May 05, 2012, 11:13 PM
Just before it gets out of hand and the witch hunts starts  ::) ;D

when speaking to him - he's a fare guy and i don't see he's out to rip people off ?


I'm not taking sides here on this one and i was just letting you all know what the score was  :angel:


lets just see what he has to say and what can be done first ok  ;)

Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: rollin72 on May 05, 2012, 11:20 PM
the majority of people on here are sound and honest, I just want him to see this thread to understand that, I dont want it to turn into a witch hunt, just for him to do the right thing, you get brake lever rub on most used bars, not on the top cross bar though
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: bobbbbsy on May 05, 2012, 11:34 PM
if im selling something and its marked or damaged i will mention and post pics and would expect others to do the same. if this dos nt happen then its dishonest or economical use of the truth to get more money ! not cool !
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: oldschoolace on May 05, 2012, 11:34 PM
I'm glad you are not advocating witch hunts, those things are never any fun  :'(
Buying and selling is always a two way street, ideally the seller is anal with his decription and the buyer asks enough questions to be sure about his purchase.

Personally if i was buying those bars i would expect them to need a re-chrome or run them as survivor. They look fairly pitted in the last couple of shots. That said the seller should have mentioned the wear if its as bad as you say.

Usually these things go much better with a calm tongue and a level head  :-\
Hope it gets resolved amicably  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: NORTY40 on May 05, 2012, 11:56 PM
Don't think Gaz has insticated a witch hunt or anything like that , he has bought a set of bars that when he has received them are not as good as he thought or haven't quite lived up to the description originally posted . He has asked for our opinions, thats all .

If it were me I would offer a full refund or a part refund that both parties are happy with ........ simples really  :daumenhoch:

Im sure it will get sorted  ;)








It better fookin had.......... because you ain't getting my bars back Gaz  :LolLolLolLol:  Seriously though Gaz,  if it doesn't work out and your stuck for bars im happy to return these  ;)   
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: rollin72 on May 06, 2012, 12:00 AM
ive still got them here you monkey :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: jT Racing on May 06, 2012, 01:33 AM
are you talking about the marks on the bar tops where the brake levers go that you can clearly see on the photo's? or the crossbar that goes in between?
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: Darren KAP on May 06, 2012, 07:08 AM
Its easy to sort , the seller needs to offer a part or full refund seeing as the description could have been better
On a plus side Gaz it looks like they arrived pretty quick
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: CD17 on May 06, 2012, 07:27 AM
I think the description & photo's are pretty accurate from what I can see ???

Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: sparky on May 06, 2012, 07:35 AM
Although it's not always clear to see the item from a photo, you're only ever going to see what it really looks like when it's in your hands. Photo's can sometimes have a way of making good things look bad and vice versa.  :crazy2:

I always used the 'shop' method. If you're not happy with something, would you take it back and ask for a refund, discount or replacement (although the later is not always appropriate), but I guess only you can decide your next course of action. :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: Dark Diggler on May 06, 2012, 09:09 AM
I think that if you dont buy old scrap metal, you are never dissapointed with its condition.
I hope this helps   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: rollin72 on May 06, 2012, 09:11 AM
are you talking about the marks on the bar tops where the brake levers go that you can clearly see on the photo's? or the crossbar that goes in between?
the marks are on the top of the cross bar that goes between,the marks where the lever goes aren't that bad
I think the description & photo's are pretty accurate from what I can see ???


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/pp287/rollin72/DSCF0519.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/pp287/rollin72/DSCF0518.jpg)

you dont see those pictures in the description, and is this what he meant as lever rub ???
for the money I paid for them I think he should have put in his for sale thread those pictures and then priced accordingly

thanks Simon that clears it up :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: In2 bmx on May 06, 2012, 09:28 AM
I'll bring my chrome spray round Gaz  .. Job done ..  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: hunterdubber on May 06, 2012, 10:04 AM
I think if there had been a picture like Gaz has shown in the for sale thread it would affect a good few potential buyers

It actually shows where the rub has gone through to bare metal  and not in a place where it could be covered up by levers when built.  :-\

Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: markyp on May 06, 2012, 10:10 AM
I think if there had been a picture like Gaz has shown in the for sale thread it would affect a good few potential buyers

It actually shows where the rub has gone through to bare metal  and not in a place where it could be covered up by levers when built.  :-\


+1 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: M5AT on May 06, 2012, 10:23 AM
Shit that. Money back time.
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: jT Racing on May 06, 2012, 01:26 PM
to be fair, them marks are not in the picture and should have been a bit clearer, but knowing how fussy people can be you learn these things as you go along. the cranks im selling right now have a couple of battle scars, ive photographed them all to avoid issues.

 they look ok and i'd just re-chrome them if i was that bothered. if they came from holland then the postage isn't too dear. keep em, send em back, take your pick.
im not keen on partial refunds, they might be worth what they are worth as is to somebody else, just not you .how much did you pay btw? he did mention rubbing in his description so they weren't described as mint.
im personally of the opinion that trying to make all parts look like brand new detracts from the age and character that the different parts have earned through use and abuse over a few decades .
they look good on your build, job done. i'd have a bit of an issue if they were described and mint and priced sky high.
if you're not going to be happy, get your money back, otherwise enjoy em, they look the biz on a freestyle build.

my 2p's worth























Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: hunterdubber on May 06, 2012, 01:42 PM
I'll bring my chrome spray round Gaz  .. Job done ..  :daumenhoch:


Does anyone remember when Russ Mad dog bought that Supergoose 3 from Jimmy P

and all the gusset at the back of the bb to chainstays, was corroded but painted in chrome  :D  :crazy2:  :-X

Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on May 06, 2012, 03:09 PM
are the rub marks from a race plate straps ?
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: rollin72 on May 06, 2012, 03:50 PM
There´s some brakelever-mount rub,on both side´s,nothing serious!
thats the description, not the chrome has rubbed down to bare metal on the cross bar on both sides, who puts levers on the cross bar? thats mis-leading. I'm not being fussy, but if going to spend £155 on a set of bars these issues should have been pointed out in the sale thread, it looks like a race plate or basket has caused it and not brake levers.
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on May 06, 2012, 03:59 PM
he will be on soon or after weekend to find out where his bars are from me - so will see your pm as well  ;)
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: Peter J on May 06, 2012, 07:37 PM
There´s some brakelever-mount rub,on both side´s,nothing serious!
thats the description, not the chrome has rubbed down to bare metal on the cross bar on both sides, who puts levers on the cross bar? thats mis-leading. I'm not being fussy, but if going to spend £155 on a set of bars these issues should have been pointed out in the sale thread, it looks like a race plate or basket has caused it and not brake levers.

You cannot say fairer than that Gaz lets hope the other fella is as fair  :daumenhoch:

At the end of the day we SHOULD all be "mates buying of mates"  :-*
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: Devilock on May 06, 2012, 07:43 PM
There´s some brakelever-mount rub,on both side´s,nothing serious!
thats the description, not the chrome has rubbed down to bare metal on the cross bar on both sides, who puts levers on the cross bar? thats mis-leading. I'm not being fussy, but if going to spend £155 on a set of bars these issues should have been pointed out in the sale thread, it looks like a race plate or basket has caused it and not brake levers.

You cannot say fairer than that Gaz lets hope the other fella is as fair  :daumenhoch:

At the end of the day we SHOULD all be "mates buying of mates"  :-*

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Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: jT Racing on May 06, 2012, 08:14 PM
£155
Fookinghellfire.
That's a lot of dosh for ladder bars.
get your dosh back.
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on May 06, 2012, 08:56 PM
Don't forget that's £25 for postage
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: Hmoon27 on May 07, 2012, 08:10 PM
Do as the Notts scientist would........












Be a real playa and Tin foil the fookers ;)
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: rollin72 on May 17, 2012, 05:28 PM
just to set the record straight, Arno paid back a part refund and in my book he is a sound bloke, all worked out in the end..nice1 Arno :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: hunterdubber on May 17, 2012, 07:17 PM
Happy days  :daumenhoch:

Glad it got got resolved , no aggro  :daumenhoch:

Just how it should be  :angel:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: Twesnik on May 18, 2012, 06:32 PM
just to set the record straight, Arno paid back a part refund and in my book he is a sound bloke, all worked out in the end..nice1 Arno :daumenhoch:
No prob´s G.....
 :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: harris on May 18, 2012, 06:41 PM
a good resolution   :daumenhoch:  like to see it.
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: Gish on May 18, 2012, 06:52 PM
glad to hear things got sorted  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: Jaymz on May 18, 2012, 07:24 PM
Perfick
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: monkian on May 18, 2012, 07:27 PM
I do love a happy ending ;D ;)
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: wildon on May 18, 2012, 07:38 PM
I do love a happy ending ;D ;)

god i miss thailand  :P
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: In2 bmx on May 18, 2012, 07:47 PM
Great result .. :daumenhoch:

 it's good to talk .... :daumenhoch:


How much  ??? 
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: NORTY40 on May 18, 2012, 08:26 PM
Happy days  :daumenhoch:

Glad it got got resolved , no aggro  :daumenhoch:

Just how it should be  :angel:

 :daumenhoch:

well done lads  :)
Title: Re: what do you think
Post by: Bob_Acid on May 18, 2012, 08:45 PM
Fair play  :daumenhoch:
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