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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: midschooljon on May 06, 2012, 07:20 PM
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Between 95 and 99 the only bikes I rode were S&M's. I absolutely loved them and still do to this day. In that time I rode a 1" Holmes, a 1" Challenger, and finally a Bennett. Im now on a mission to buy back all 3 of those models and the first one that popped was a Bennett (anyone got a 1" Holmes or Challenger they want to sell me? ;)). As far a bikes go the Bennett was never my favourite bike, but I have loads of good memories from the time I rode it so am really keen to get this built up to the same spec as mine back in 99.
Despite the frames rather tatty appearance it is in really good shape. Normally bikes of this era have dropouts and chainstays that are pretty smashed up. Luckily this one looks like harly any grinding was done on it so it should clean up nicely.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/S_M_bennett_frame_1999.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/S_M_bennett_frame_1999_dropout1.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/S_M_bennett_frame_1999_dropout2.jpg)
The frame has now been sent off the the imfamous SBD to get a fresh coat of red paint put on it so Im looking forward to seeing how that turns out.
After buying the frame I started hunting for the bits I needed to build it up to the same spec mine originally was. After looking around for the various individual parts I stumbled across this little gem on ebay that had half the bits on it I was looking for. I saved it in my watch list and ended up winning it for an absolute steal! :4_17_5:
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/S_M-dirbike-NG.jpg)
This little dirtbike will now be sacrificed to the Bennett build with a fair chunk of its parts getting tidied up and going onto the Bennett. The DB is actually in pretty bad shape so dont feel too bad for it :LolLolLolLol:. It needs some repars as it has had the dropouts butcherd to accept 14mm axles :rant: and there are also a few dents in the seat stays. I will still keep it though, and when I get some time will restore it as well.
Thats it for now. More updates shortly...
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nice i remember that db on ebay
also wasnt that bennett frame on ebay for £25 bin?
what 1in holmes are u after, mk1, mk2 or mk3
mk3 is the most common and cheapest of the 3 normally can be picked up for around £100 depending on condition
just noticed that redneck on the db is a early squared edged gyro unfriendly one :daumenhoch:
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nice i remember that db on ebay
also wasnt that bennett frame on ebay for £25 bin?
what 1in holmes are u after, mk1, mk2 or mk3
mk3 is the most common and cheapest of the 3 normally can be picked up for around £100 depending on condition
just noticed that redneck on the db is a early squared edged gyro unfriendly one :daumenhoch:
Yea I got lucky with both the frame and the DB purchase. I kind of needed a break though as my PFT and Sport builds are definitely not looking cheap right now :LolLolLolLol:
As far as the Holmes goes Id prefer a MK2 or MK3 simply because I rode those models. I wouldnt say no to a MK1 by any means but would be happy with a MK2/3 if thats what came up.
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good luck
i paid £100 for my mk3 around 4 years ago and i bought a mk2 this year for £150 and mk1's go for £300+
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Nice! Lucky you on finding a bike that has most of the same parts as yours from bitd :daumenhoch:
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good luck
i paid £100 for my mk3 around 4 years ago and i bought a mk2 this year for £150 and mk1's go for £300+
Yea early S&M stuff is pricy for sure.
Nice! Lucky you on finding a bike that has most of the same parts as yours from bitd :daumenhoch:
Yes that was a real stroke of luck. It changed the whole build from something that could have cost a fair bit to something that will hopefully end up quite affordable.
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Yeah, nice build, glad to hear it won't set you back much :daumenhoch:
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i was watching that db on ebay but forgot all about it :uglystupid2:
good buy there dude :daumenhoch:
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The Bennett looks great Jon, glad i could help you out with something else. ^"^
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The Bennett looks great Jon, glad i could help you out with something else. ^"^
Cheers Don. Thanks for letting me know about your "goods" ;). Cant wait for that package to arrive!
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Is that the Dirtbike i put a thread up about?
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=143892.0
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Is that the Dirtbike i put a thread up about?
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=143892.0
Yes it is :)
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Tyres for the Bennett arrived today. Will hopefully get the wheels laced up over the weekend :)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/dirt-monster-tyres.jpg)
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Is that the Dirtbike i put a thread up about?
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=143892.0
Yes it is :)
Proper bargain that was :daumenhoch:
Almost bid but i wouldn't have done owt with it
Got a pair of Dirtmonsters on me old challenger :daumenhoch:
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A few more bits arrived for the Bennett. Thanks to a few forum members for some of these parts. All I need now are some chrome slam bars and a primo rod post and Ive got everything I need for this build.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/DSC06622.jpg)
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Wheels all built up. :)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/wheels.jpg)
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Nice.... just read your above post, someone had a primo rod for sale in the last week or so
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Found it....
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=144813.0
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Found it....
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=144813.0
Thanks for letting me know. Im holding out for a chrome one though as all the other bits on the bike are silver or chrome. Hopefully one will pop up soon enough.
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Got my frame back from SBD today. :smitten: WIll post pics shortly.
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im just starting one of these myself.
problem is a few of the bits that should have been in the box aint :'(.
parcel force are about to be b ollocked :2gunsfiring_v1:
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im just starting one of these myself.
problem is a few of the bits that should have been in the box aint :'(.
parcel force are about to be b ollocked :2gunsfiring_v1:
Yea they are great bikes and going really cheap at the moment. Some good deals to be had out there. :daumenhoch:
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are you getting new stickers for it ?.
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are you getting new stickers for it ?.
Busy sourcing reference at the moment so I can recreate them. Pretty confident I can get them all drawn up 100% accurate but its just finding the time to do it.
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/1003/escrs/KrisBennettDecal-small-1.jpg)
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Cheers for that :daumenhoch: Im going to see if I can get started on the decals this weekend.
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let me know how you get on with them jon.
might need a set myself if you can do em.
i dont think del has these ones.
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cool cheers glen :daumenhoch:
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Here are the pics of the frame with its fresh coat of paint. Thanks to SBD for putting up with me being such a fussy customer! :LolLolLolLol: Eventually he ordered in a special RAL code for me so we could get the colour dead right. Im really pleased with how it turned out. :smitten:
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/S_M_bennett_frame_1999_red.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/S_M_bennett_frame_1999_red_ht.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/S_M_bennett_frame_1999_red_drops.jpg)
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sweet Ive only ever seen black bennets so this will be a breathe of fresh air
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looks same colour as mine.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v229/dordymush/DSCN1440.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v229/dordymush/hgtjgfng.jpg)
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Yea I think the colours are pretty much identical. Yours looks lovely. :daumenhoch:
To be honest I think both builds will be very similar when done.
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im gonna change the stem from the hoffman to a redneck i just bought off tom
and maybe a set of slams instead of the primo's.
oh and the tyres for a set of V tracks im waiting to come through the post :crazy2:.
im still undecided what seat to put on it yet.
how you going with yours ?.
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im gonna change the stem from the hoffman to a redneck i just bought off tom
and maybe a set of slams instead of the primo's.
oh and the tyres for a set of V tracks im waiting to come through the post :crazy2:.
im still undecided what seat to put on it yet.
how you going with yours ?.
Well in that case they going to look identical :LolLolLolLol:
Going on mine is a silver redneck, chrome slams, Primo V monster tyres, and a Primo Hemorrhoid seat. Pretty much standard kit for bikes of that era.
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dont tell me your going with chrome pitchforks too ;D
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dont tell me your going with chrome pitchforks too ;D
Chrome Pitch forks, Profile cranks, profile chainwheel (mine is a whippet though). :LolLolLolLol:
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lol be cool to get them both together at one of the meets for a few pics 8)
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Definitely. :)
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cool build glen.
where did you get that banner from ?.
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Lovely build Glen. Bike turned out really well.
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:LolLolLolLol: They are real pigs, but to be fair most late mid school bikes were. In fact I'd say the Bennett was probably better then most bikes of the time.
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glen them cut down bars look mental 8)
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got some primo moes here that are about that due to be going on the haro nyquist as soon as i cant be bothered to build it back up
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This arrived from the printers so looking forward to getting this stickered up. Got a few builds on the go now so unfortunately this one is at the back of the line.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/S_M_bennett_frame_1999_red_decal.jpg)
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come out well that sticker has jon.
if you want me to take a few pics of the other stickers on mine let me know.
its got the full set on.
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Finally back on the Bennett build and making a little progress...
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/s_amd_m_bennett_primo_seat.jpeg)
Textured Primo Hemroid seat, Primo Rod post, and Primo Viking clamp.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/s_amd_m_bennett_downtube_sticker.jpeg)
Got the down tube decal on the frame but still need to draw up the missing ones.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/s_amd_m_bennett_redneck_stem.jpeg)
Headset, stem, and fork are all installed but the compression bolt and washer are pretty ugly. I dont suppose anyone on here has a tidier set they would like to sell?
I will try get a bit more done over the weekend as I almost have everything needed to finish this now.
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Looking good fella
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keep the pictures coming 8)
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Looking good that is.mines rough as hell compared to your ones lol,but i quite like the ride.I put a redneck on,S&M medium lt bars,new ODI's,new saddle coming and maybe get some decals and that will be it,ready to thrash :daumenhoch:
(http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y356/TheG67/005-3.jpg)
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Looking good that is.mines rough as hell compared to your ones lol,but i quite like the ride.I put a redneck on,S&M medium lt bars,new ODI's,new saddle coming and maybe get some decals and that will be it,ready to thrash :daumenhoch:
(http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y356/TheG67/005-3.jpg)
Looks good Gary. Some folks dont like the way these ride but I really enjoyed mine BITD. Mine wont see much action once complete, but they are tough as nails so great bikes to ride in my opinion.
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Midschooljon, your Bennett is coming along nicely. I've got one on the go at the moment aswell, its getting powdered at the moment. It's going to be white, with mostly Primo parts similar to how yours is set up.
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Looking good that is.mines rough as hell compared to your ones lol,but i quite like the ride.I put a redneck on,S&M medium lt bars,new ODI's,new saddle coming and maybe get some decals and that will be it,ready to thrash :daumenhoch:
(http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y356/TheG67/005-3.jpg)
Looks good Gary. Some folks dont like the way these ride but I really enjoyed mine BITD. Mine wont see much action once complete, but they are tough as nails so great bikes to ride in my opinion.
Couple of new decals and seat ;)
(http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y356/TheG67/001-6.jpg)
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Made a bit more progress on this today. The cranks are all bolted up and the brakes are installed. Im just waiting for a chain, freewheel, and cable and I should be able to finish this up.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/S_M_bennett_frame_1999_red_990_brakes.jpg)
The poor condition of the compression bolt on these forks is really bugging me now. I dont suppose anyone has a pitchfork compression bolt like the one in this picture knocking about? Id love to replace the rubbish one I have with one one like that. If you do and are prepared to sell it please let me know. :daumenhoch:
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/pfcompression.jpg)
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Nice work Jon, that's looking awesome.
I've got one of these in the works at the moment too. BITD I had a black and a red one so this one had been powdered white and will have mostly black parts, from the Primo catalogue of course.
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thats gonna be pretty close lookin to mine 8).
lookin for a black 990 too lol.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v229/dordymush/PIC_0268-1.jpg)
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Great to see a few Bennet's getting built. Here's mine back from a fresh coat of powder.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ac305/gordy80/FA1D436F-707A-445E-8041-28FA1EF6B1BA-9809-000025E36F5EE737.jpg)
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Lookin nice in white :daumenhoch:
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thats gonna be pretty close lookin to mine 8).
lookin for a black 990 too lol.
Yes they are definitely going to be similar. A few subtle changes but very much Bennett brothers. :LolLolLolLol:
Great to see a few Bennet's getting built. Here's mine back from a fresh coat of powder.
That looks lovely. You dont see many in white. Raw Bennett's were always my favourite colour, but as this bike is a rebuild of my OG bike from BITD I'm sticking to red as that is what I had.
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Here's a quick update on mine, I was putting it together as a mock up before tearing down and refinishing all the scratched parts etc, and I actually liked the way it was looking. So with that said, I'm going to fit a cable and chain and keep it the way it is for now. :)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ac305/gordy80/A0BE190B-69B3-442C-A601-6F228D8CC6E6-11882-00002D9FD2CFB35F.jpg)
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lookin good 8).
i like the white.
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I like the white too. I rode erny's red Bennett once, didnt like it so i got a federal instead. Jon, that dark shade of red looks just lilke i remember
Bang on.
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Thanks guys. :daumenhoch: all the bikes in this thread look awesome in this thread.
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Loving that white one. Dont see many of them around.
Jon, that dark shade of red looks just lilke i remember
Bang on.
Thanks for that. Had to get it powdered twice as the first colour wasn't quite right. Sat on the frame for a week with the first colour contemplating just building it up, but in the end decided to send it back and do it again as I would have never been happy if I hadn't. Comments like yours make me realise I did the right thing. :daumenhoch:
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nice bikes,
not feeling the tan walls on the bennett frame though,
V monsters or wall tyres.... :smitten:
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i just got a set of wall tyres to go on it joe as these v tracks were a bit narrow for it.
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spot on mate, brutal tyre for a brutal frame, :daumenhoch:
loving seeing these bennetts all built up...
somewhere in my head theres a memory of S&M re-naming the bennett frame the AKAB,
might just be confusion though,
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somewhere in my head theres a memory of S&M re-naming the bennett frame the AKAB,
might just be confusion though,
I think you are correct. There were a few frames in stock when he left for Volume. If I recall correctly they renamed them to get rid of them without using his name but didn't continue to make the bike once they were sold out. So it wasn't a new run of frames just a blow out of old stock. :daumenhoch:
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somewhere in my head theres a memory of S&M re-naming the bennett frame the AKAB,
I think you are correct. There were a few frames in stock when he left for Volume. If I recall correctly they renamed them to get rid of them without using his name but didn't continue to make the bike once they were sold out.
Like when they changed the name of Castillo bars to the AD bar (although they did keep making them for a while after he left)
And then when Mike bought out a silmilar bar made by Volume, he called it the Mad Dog bar ;D
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Alex, do You mean Brian?! :daumenhoch:
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Alex, do You mean Brian?! :daumenhoch:
Yep, of course. Brian Castillo, not Mike Castillo. Doh!
I guess I'd always rather think of Big Island, than that tall dude who never even had a cool nickname :LolLolLolLol:
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:LolLolLolLol: Brian 'Tall Island' Castillo hasn't quite got the same cool factor has it! I like The Bennett frame more now than when They came out & There's a few nice One's on here :daumenhoch:
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Finally got this finished last past week. For a budget build it really took a lot longer to put together then I though it would. :LolLolLolLol: Here are some pics and the finished spec.
Frame: S&M Bennett
Fork: S&M Pitch Fork
Bars: S&M Slam Bars
Headset: Solid Bikes Headset
Stem: S&M Redneck
Levers: Dia Compe Tech 77
Rear Brake: AD 990
Girps: ODI longneck (real ones not those rubbish ST ones)
Seat Clamp: Primo Viking
Seat Post: Primo Rod
Seat: Primo Hemroid (Gripper)
Cranks: Profile racing
Sprocket: Profile Whippet 44t
Pedals: Primo Tenderizers
Chain: KMC Z
Wheels: Odyssey Hubs laced to Weinmann rims
Tyres: Primo Dirt Monster front and rear
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_side_view.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_front_view.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_rear_view_1.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_redneck_stem.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_kris_bennett_decal.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_devil_pitchfork_decals.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_odi_longneck_grip.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_slam_bars.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_odyssey_hub.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_primo_gripper_seat.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_profile_whippet.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sandm_bennett_red_seat_stube_decal.jpg)
And finally here is a pic of me riding my original one BITD.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/bennettbarspin.jpg)
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Perfect
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I like that a lot !
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Wow 4 pages for a s&m!!! :LolLolLolLol: looks lush Jon like everyone of your builds! My mate had a kb bitd in a creamy colour, good memories !!! Looks good mate top job! :daumenhoch:
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Wow. That's looks stunning. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :4_17_5:
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Cheers for all the kind words folks. :daumenhoch:
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BANG TIDY :4_17_5:
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I have a Bennett frame in raw ready to be powdered in any colour you like for you Bennett fans
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Another awesome build Jon! Well done bud :daumenhoch:
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thats the first bennet ive really liked, awesome job on that, stunning!
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cracking build that.
mint 8)