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Title: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 03:08 PM
I dont understand the fascination with Hutch. They were never on my radar in the 80's, arnt they just badly made overly expensive BMX's? Am i wrong? were they a late 80's thing?

Explain yourselves Hutch lovers!
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: mattuknc on May 30, 2012, 03:10 PM
I always prefered Starsky...

Come on, someone had to do it.   :-X
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: MartyC on May 30, 2012, 03:13 PM
Don't give up on us baby...
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Devilock on May 30, 2012, 03:18 PM
http://hutchbmx.com/store/index.php'main_page=page&id=5   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 03:26 PM
Don't give up on us baby...

Dont make the wrong seem right   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Julian347 on May 30, 2012, 03:43 PM
Huggy Bear was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Julian347 on May 30, 2012, 03:45 PM
Had a Pro Racer BITD. Was a great bike to race. Suited me perfectly.

Hutch always looked so ‘factory’. They had some great riders like Tim Judge, Toby Henderson, Charles Townsend and Mike Miranda (Better brand ambassador than rider IMO, but still managed to look good with all the pink shit going on)

They made some top quality stuff. I know there were a few problems with some bits, but that happens to the best of them.

I’m not a Hutch lover, but what’s not to like?
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: pickle on May 30, 2012, 03:48 PM
The Trickstar is a lovely looking frame and forks and looks an awesome bike when built up, but other than that i don't get it either.

Although saying that, i love beats but then others can't stand them.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Dark Diggler on May 30, 2012, 03:56 PM
Rolex of the bmx world. Massively expensive to own and maintain properley but dont loose money and inconsistently unreliable
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: markyp on May 30, 2012, 04:28 PM
why are diesel jeans better than wrangler?'theyre not but just THE NAME to have,hutch was the fashionable name,the rich mans bike,nothing more or less.i loves em :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 04:33 PM
I know we all have them but TA for me all the way!

Ooooh i love my TA so much it must be illegle  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Spen69 on May 30, 2012, 04:44 PM
Nope, never got it either. The money they fetch I can't understand.......
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: kungfunky on May 30, 2012, 04:51 PM
Nope, never got it either. The money they fetch I can't understand.......

x 2, had a pro racer and it was nice but not worth the price they demand. 1.5k for the cranks and they're not really that rare  :-\ . still it's worth it to those who buy them  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Kaner on May 30, 2012, 04:52 PM
I know we all have them but TA for me all the way!

Ooooh i love my TA so much it must be illegle  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

With you there Bud

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/gg145/KanerBurner/P1020039.jpg)

Love twin top tube designs too, Haro and Torker float my boat!
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: brummie on May 30, 2012, 04:53 PM
i likes em :)
silly money mind you
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: jimwise68 on May 30, 2012, 05:07 PM
Nice riding bikes, but cant see the attraction for the high prices. Not that popular BITD in my circles. But my girlfriend of the time had a Pro Raider that she used to race.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Devilock on May 30, 2012, 05:18 PM
 :crazy2:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Jon The Bassist on May 30, 2012, 05:21 PM
NOT just a name, very good bikes to race and ride generally. The Hutch stem made it possible for 6 footers to still race 20" as there was NOTHING else readily available at the time.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: rooski on May 30, 2012, 05:38 PM
Don't really care for em

Iconic brand though,remember them well bitd

Some parts were great,long stems,bars,frames,others truly shocking,cranks,deathtrap mini f+f,trickstar 2,lo-caliber range etc :shocked: :shocked:

There were many other brands that made bikes and parts as good,and better,but Hutch had the riders and were marketed well,stars n stripes everywhere,made in usa everywhere,all that b$llocks.

As for popularity now,prices etc,this is due mostly to people who couldnt afford them bitd,and can afford them now,and those who want expensive o/s stuff but are too narrow minded to think of anything different.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 05:53 PM
I know we all have them but TA for me all the way!

Ooooh i love my TA so much it must be illegle  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

With you there Bud

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/gg145/KanerBurner/P1020039.jpg)

Love twin top tube designs too, Haro and Torker float my boat!

Ooh you dirty bitches!!!!!
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 05:58 PM
This is what I mean:   

http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/52734


Really!!!
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: pickle on May 30, 2012, 06:03 PM
And like 90% of hutch stuff, been rechromed  ::)

offer him £40 posted  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: hunterdubber on May 30, 2012, 06:10 PM
What's not to like ,as already said

All the valid reasons to like them have been listed .

SOME people have a stigma against them now JUST because the command fairly high prices , and that's it  :crazy2:

  and they're sheep just bleating because somebody else said it ,nobody  goes on about JMC's ,, have any of you thought about trying to build a Darryl Young

,the more you get into collecting  rare collectable parts ,you realise Hutch parts aren't anywhere near the proper high priced stuff

Narrow minded ,, for choosing to build a Hutch ?  maybe  more narrow minded  for following the bleaters  ::)

If anything apart from the Aerospeeds  all the Hutch parts are pretty reasonable  ::)

You can name loads of comparable parts that are far dearer,, but I'll give one each to start

Hutch stem,, ESP are dearer

Hutch Hubs ,,,Son lites dearer

Hutch frames ,, VDC dearer

Hutch bars ,,, DP ladder,, did I just say foooking DP bars  :crazy2: yes dearer  :LolLolLolLol:

Hutch seatpost,,, DX post dearer

and so on  :)

I love most BMX's and I like Hutch because they are one of the best brands , and not the dearest  ;)


Each to their own I say , you don't have to like them but it's the same old reason ,,price,, that's why people hate em  :idiot2:

not because they're inferior  :)


It's usually from people who haven't built anything different from the norm who chirp up  :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 06:13 PM
Call me small minded but all I need in my life is a TA, Ripper and a Torker. Unfortunately i only have the TA at the moment but i Do have 10 & 12 year old boys and a fit second wife I am willing to trade for the other two.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 06:17 PM
What's not to like ,as already said

All the valid reasons to like them have been listed .

SOME people have a stigma against them now JUST because the command fairly high prices , and that's it

  and they're sheep just bleating because somebody else said it ,nobody  goes on about JMC's ,, have any of you thought about trying to build a Darryl Young

,the more you get into collecting  rare collectable parts ,you realise Hutch parts aren't anywhere near the proper high priced stuff

Narrow minded ,, for choosing to build a Hutch ?  maybe  more narrow minded  for following the bleaters  ::)

If anything apart from the Aerospeeds  all the Hutch parts are pretty reasonable

You can name loads of comparable parts that are far dearer,, but I'll give one each to start

Hutch stem,, ESP are dearer

Hutch Hubs ,,,Son lites dearer

Hutch frames ,, VDC dearer

Hutch bars ,,, DP ladder,, did I just say foooking DP bars  :crazy2: yes dearer  :LolLolLolLol:

Hutch seatpost,,, DX post dearer

and so on

I love most BMX's and I love Hutch because they are one of the best brands , and not the dearest


Yay!!!! That's what we want passion!!!!!!!! The only hutch I ever liked belonged to my rabbit Peter!
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: wildon on May 30, 2012, 06:24 PM
Well said Christian  :daumenhoch:

I rode a Trick Star all through my teens hence my fixation with them now .. which over spilled into all things Hutch. 

You have to admit they went all out bitd .. how many other brands of the same era made so many parts?  ok, some like the aerospeeds weren't that good but most the stuff was.... until they lost their minds post 86  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: ron burgundy on May 30, 2012, 06:26 PM
Over priced tat and the Trickstar is rotten (as are all freestyle bikes ever made by every manufacturer). Excellent marketing, though.

...if any one what's to give me a Hutch Judge, in blue :laugh:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: hunterdubber on May 30, 2012, 06:28 PM
Call me small minded but all I need in my life is a TA, Ripper and a Torker. Unfortunately i only have the TA at the moment but i Do have 10 & 12 year old boys and a fit second wife I am willing to trade for the other two.


I'm not saying you're small minded ,, I was refering to Andy Rooski's view that it's small minded to build a Hutch rather than another make  :)


and I thought it seemed more small minded to hate them ,,,,,,,just based on somebody saying "ooo aren't they dear"


Everybody warms to a brand ,,, some people just like Mongooose  some just like SE ,

Are they small minded ?

No  :)


I have 14 different makes in my collection ,,before you say I'm small minded too  :LolLolLolLol:



Yay ,,,,you got yourself the debate you wanted  :4_17_5:

Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 06:28 PM
Gen 1 freestyler maybe otherwise I agree on freestyle bikes yuk yuk yuk!
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on May 30, 2012, 06:30 PM


Crap product, been and gone by 1990 when haro, mongoose, GT, redline are still going, prices got pumped up by haneys when they had shed loads of it 10 years ago, got loads of collectors to want it then just cashed in........
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: hunterdubber on May 30, 2012, 06:35 PM


Crap product, been and gone by 1990 when haro, mongoose, GT, redline are still going, prices got pumped up by haneys when they had shed loads of it 10 years ago, got loads of collectors to want it then just cashed in........

That should say

Hutch gone by the time Mongoose, GT Redline ,Haro were ALL bought out and lost the original owners passion  :(

and turned into just generic mass produced far eastern shight  :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2:

not very desirable innovative or cool anymore  :-\


 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: MaD-RoK on May 30, 2012, 06:36 PM
How many times have all those manufacturers changed hands tho?
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on May 30, 2012, 06:37 PM

Hutch never had a chance to change hands, it fell apart before he could sell it on
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on May 30, 2012, 06:39 PM


Crap product, been and gone by 1990 when haro, mongoose, GT, redline are still going, prices got pumped up by haneys when they had shed loads of it 10 years ago, got loads of collectors to want it then just cashed in........

That should say

Hutch gone by the time Mongoose, GT Redline ,Haro were ALL bought out and lost the original owners passion  :(

and turned into just generic mass produced far eastern shight  :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2:

not very desirable innovative or cool anymore  :-\


 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:





Mongoose and haro not cool ? Do you do Bmx ?
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 06:41 PM
Don't fluff around the subject Pete just say what you mean!

I started riding in 80 on my puch Murray and gave up in 84 coz I was sh1t! So I think I missed the freestyle bike thing. I have a puch that I bought about 8 years ago. I had forgotten what  a pile of crap they were! THe only other bike I had bitd was a burner gs! We weren't very rich I am afraid. I could wheelie forever, rock walk, endo etc but quarter pipes were a bit beyond me. My 12 year old has a custom S&M BTM that's cost me about £1400 so far but he is awesome on it and unlike most parents I know how important bmx's are.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: In2 bmx on May 30, 2012, 06:41 PM
It's hard to keep a rabbit without one ..  :D

 Never really done out for me though .. Just a posh over priced BMX .... Even though I do love the pedals .. :daumenhoch:

Robinson for life ....  :)
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 06:58 PM
This is my second favourite mass debate!
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: skki3330 on May 30, 2012, 07:02 PM
I LOVE SOME CRUTCH  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: glenboy on May 30, 2012, 07:04 PM
Re: Lets get some heated debate going -  I dont like Hutch

i know what you mean i always liked starsky better but without hutch to bounce off it just wouldn't be the same program and if the torino wasn't in it as well that would have just killed it, i think its the chemistry of hutch starsky and the crappy chases in the torino crashing into cardboard boxes so i think you have to have the whole package
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 07:06 PM
I LOVE SOME CRUTCH  :coolsmiley:


That should have been the title.... 'is hutch your crotch?'. Skki3330 your a genius.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: rooski on May 30, 2012, 07:26 PM
Good points well put Dubber :daumenhoch:

In reference to my narrow minded point,this refers to people who build a Hutch bike because they think they ARE the best,most exclusive bikes and therefore need to build one for that reason,without thinking about interesting alternatives:daumenhoch:



Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: southern andy on May 30, 2012, 07:28 PM
Far too common for me, Rippers and Skyways seem even more common.  :buck2: I like the rare stuff you just don't see anymore, and Hutch is not that brand.

BUT..... when a Hutch is built properly, there ain't too many bikes out there that look that good.


I don't have a problem with Hutch parts though, their pedals were iconic and they still are today.


I think Christians post earlier on was bang on the money..... Top post.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: GTnumber1 on May 30, 2012, 07:29 PM
GT are SH1T
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: HUTCHMAN on May 30, 2012, 07:43 PM
For me,it's my favourite frame set that i had BITD,achieved my best results on my Pro Racer...so i guess the brand has stuck with me to this day. Never had any of the problems with the frame snapping,yes,my first deep H stem did start flaking it's chrome , yes they replaced it no quibble. Other than that no probs.Never owned a set of Aero speeds,never likely to. I guess as said before,it's just what your into,each to their own. There's brands about i'm not fond of,but the way i see it is these things are personal to every individual.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: hunterdubber on May 30, 2012, 08:00 PM


Crap product, been and gone by 1990 when haro, mongoose, GT, redline are still going, prices got pumped up by haneys when they had shed loads of it 10 years ago, got loads of collectors to want it then just cashed in........

That should say

Hutch gone by the time Mongoose, GT Redline ,Haro were ALL bought out and lost the original owners passion  :(

and turned into just generic mass produced far eastern shight  :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2:

not very desirable innovative or cool anymore  :-\


 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:





Mongoose and haro not cool ? Do you do Bmx ?




You go in Stodgy's shop all the time Pete  ::)

Not in this century  have they been "cool"

I don't know anyone who says they are a really cool brand  :-\

You know yourself  Fit  S$M FBM BSD  are sought after ,,,cooler :)


Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: HUTCHMAN on May 30, 2012, 08:02 PM


Crap product, been and gone by 1990 when haro, mongoose, GT, redline are still going, prices got pumped up by haneys when they had shed loads of it 10 years ago, got loads of collectors to want it then just cashed in........

That should say

Hutch gone by the time Mongoose, GT Redline ,Haro were ALL bought out and lost the original owners passion  :(

and turned into just generic mass produced far eastern shight  :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2:

not very desirable innovative or cool anymore  :-\


 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:





Mongoose and haro not cool ? Do you do Bmx ?


You go in Stodgy's shop all the time Pete

Not in this century  have they been "cool"

I don't know anyone who says they are a really cool brand Pete

Fit  S$M FBM BSD  are sought after









and to top that......guess who i got my Trickstar from???    ::)


Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: hunterdubber on May 30, 2012, 08:07 PM


Mongoose and haro not cool ? Do you do Bmx ?



Yeah you know I do BMX ,,,, just not very well  :crazy2:  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on May 30, 2012, 08:11 PM


Mongoose and haro both have cool products and teams and sell very very well globally, anyway back to hutch, they still selling bikes ?
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on May 30, 2012, 08:15 PM


BTW I got a judge for sale for someone with deep pockets
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: hunterdubber on May 30, 2012, 08:15 PM


Mongoose and haro both have cool products and teams and sell very very well globally, anyway back to hutch, they still selling bikes ?



 :LolLolLolLol:


 :4_17_5:   :4_17_5:  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on May 30, 2012, 08:18 PM


I luv a hutch me, especially when I am selling
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: hunterdubber on May 30, 2012, 08:28 PM
Pete ,,,just think of a price you're happy with then double it , times 10 ,double it and put plus postage  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: wildon on May 30, 2012, 08:32 PM


BTW I got a judge for sale for someone with deep pockets

me me me .. i love Hutch that much i'll pay triple what anyone else will give you and i'll even wait till they go out of fashion for you to post it
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: HARORIDER on May 30, 2012, 09:12 PM
it's now all over priced tat the lot of it  :2funny:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: kungfunky on May 30, 2012, 09:28 PM
It's expensive but not rare and most of the parts are reasonably easy to get hold of if you know the right people, compared to the lesser known but more desirable and costly 70's parts. Even if you do know the right people it takes a whole heap of work to get them to sell, not just for the money but they want to make sure the parts go to a genune collector and not ebay for profit. ;)
I do agree with what the Haney brothers have done to push the value of Hutch parts up though, but good for them for getting in their 1st I guess  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on May 30, 2012, 09:33 PM
I do agree with what the Haney brothers have done to push the value of Hutch parts up
Is that meant to be 'don't' Ash  ::)  ;D  Hutch is far too common these days,  It's like having a Burner in your house  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: kungfunky on May 30, 2012, 09:47 PM
I do agree with what the Haney brothers have done to push the value of Hutch parts up
Is that meant to be 'don't' Ash  ::)  ;D  Hutch is far too common these days,  It's like having a Burner in your house  :LolLolLolLol:

oops, I ment I agree with what was said about them  :-\ :angel:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Jon The Bassist on May 30, 2012, 09:48 PM
Must have had something going for them if they could propel my slow ass to national finals... any idea how few 20" bikes actual fit me in the late 80s?
Here's my battered old Pro Racer F&F and deep H stem, probably about 3rd/4th hand when I got them:

(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd504/Jon_D_Rhodes/Old%20BMX/1b.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: bobbbbsy on May 30, 2012, 09:49 PM
whats a hutch ?  :buck2: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on May 30, 2012, 09:54 PM
whats a hutch ?  :buck2: :LolLolLolLol:
Here's a Dubber Hutch  :LolLolLolLol:

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w495/Freestylerider/Pix%20and%20Flix/david-soul-starsky-and-hutch.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: glenboy on May 30, 2012, 09:55 PM
i like the hutch stuff, when i was a kid i never saw a hutch though  :-[  it was all gt's ,pks burners etc , i suppose its like a lot of old school bmx stuff its the kudos of having something good like vector bars ,hutch donut seat clamp, haro gen1 etc it doesn't mean its a lot better than other stuff but its just got the kudos and a lot of hutch stuff has this its sort of top of the line and as hunterdubber says it was top end stuff even back in the day (hunterdubber makes some good points in the thread by the way i knew he'd be on it as soon as i saw the thread title  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: bobbbbsy on May 30, 2012, 09:59 PM
hutch.. too much. too well known by world and dog! not particularly keen on the branding or look/design of the parts or prices!  :buck2:

Pooches looked good on the london ride !
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: bobbbbsy on May 30, 2012, 09:59 PM
whats a hutch ?  :buck2: :LolLolLolLol:
Here's a Dubber Hutch  :LolLolLolLol:

(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w495/Freestylerider/Pix%20and%20Flix/david-soul-starsky-and-hutch.jpg)

NOOO. make it stop !!  :'(
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Peter J on May 30, 2012, 10:00 PM
Jon I've got to ask.......how bloody tall are you

That Pro Racer looks like a mini  :shocked:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Jon The Bassist on May 30, 2012, 10:04 PM
About 6"1' I think - does look small doesn't it, tyres were 1.75 and 1.5 so makes the wheels look even smaller :)
Imagine what it'd have been like without a pro sized frame and long stem...
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Gashead on May 30, 2012, 10:05 PM
Is this time to say I have a lovely Hutch Judge for sale  :)
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: trickydeno on May 30, 2012, 10:08 PM
why are diesel jeans better than wrangler?'theyre not but just THE NAME to have,hutch was the fashionable name,the rich mans bike,nothing more or less.i loves em :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

spot on marky  ;)
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: stidds on May 30, 2012, 10:13 PM
Although Hutches leave me pretty meh!  And those with chrome frame and forks with hints of chrome and chrome accents leave me cold.

I have to say that a Hutch does look nice when built correctly (i.e. NOT ALL BLOODY CHROME  ;) ;D )
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: rooski on May 30, 2012, 10:29 PM
Must have had something going for them if they could propel my slow ass to national finals... any idea how few 20" bikes actual fit me in the late 80s?
Here's my battered old Pro Racer F&F and deep H stem, probably about 3rd/4th hand when I got them:

(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd504/Jon_D_Rhodes/Old%20BMX/1b.jpg)

Like that Jon,bikes set up for race action,lightweight parts,long stem to fit you,built to go :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: thebigdog on May 30, 2012, 10:31 PM
why are diesel jeans better than wrangler?'theyre not but just THE NAME to have

spot on marky  ;)

The cuts are better, the denim roll is of far higher quality and they are put together better.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: 80sBMXer on May 30, 2012, 10:42 PM

Hutch..............I thought you bought one , remove the seatpost clamp , and chuck the rest



Heres a badly listed one, if anyones interested

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320913294944'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: GTnumber1 on May 30, 2012, 10:45 PM
why are diesel jeans better than wrangler?'theyre not but just THE NAME to have

spot on marky  ;)

The cuts are better, the denim roll is of far higher quality and they are put together better.


not as good as Allsaints jeans though  :)
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: skki3330 on May 30, 2012, 10:55 PM
I have a Hutch Trickstar on my must have list so i suppose i must like them  :P
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: monkian on May 30, 2012, 11:08 PM
I can't really see anything offensive about them...except maybe the prices, oh and the Trickstar II :P
They're an iconic brand with an important place in the sports history but like most brands some models and parts are better than others.
The race frames held their own on the track BITD and look nice enough to my eyes plus they were innovators.

Seems like it's just today's prices, being the 'All American Brand' and having incredible marketing nous for the time that folks have the problem with ???
Get past all that and they have some very very nice products (IMO) 8) :)
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: kungfunky on May 30, 2012, 11:19 PM
But they did make some tosh..What was that downhill racer. Laser or something  :-\
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: hunterdubber on May 30, 2012, 11:27 PM
Have we covered Hutch then ,, :)



JMC next ?,,,,,,,,,£1200 for bars ,,,,,,c'mon  :yahoo_silent:


Cook bros ? how much for a stem  :shocked:


Overpriced ? ,,,,,,,,,only a tad  ;)


Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on May 30, 2012, 11:30 PM
I was thinking maybe VDC next...........
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on May 31, 2012, 03:59 AM


Jmc and VDC are down to flannel camel and Radman, Radman brought all the jmc stuff, told you lot it was great, you lot got excited and and paid his prices, he now has 4 houses, 2 villas abroad and 20 fooking vw's. Camel brought every VDC out there and left 3 up for sale...... Anyone got the pic of his landing with em on ? Jesus there is some nasty stuff there, some had Chris king headsets in.
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Pooch on May 31, 2012, 07:28 AM
Looks like I'm on to a winner then.. Black Amex only please.. :LolLolLolLol:

Don't dislike any bike really. All silly prices IMO.. But I'm sure people see this before they start and take a dive.
Iconic brand and have a great race history and I think they ride nice.. ;) o and looks the boll@ck in candy red :)



Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: kungfunky on May 31, 2012, 08:12 AM
Old camel's still flogging loads of gear at his usual prices. $500+ for a set of B's  ???

At least with Cook Bors gear you know it's VERY well made and wont fall apart, but fook me building a complete is costly and building 2 is a nightmare  ::)
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: martylaa on May 31, 2012, 10:27 PM
What's not to like ,as already said

All the valid reasons to like them have been listed .

SOME people have a stigma against them now JUST because the command fairly high prices , and that's it  :crazy2:

  and they're sheep just bleating because somebody else said it ,nobody  goes on about JMC's ,, have any of you thought about trying to build a Darryl Young

,the more you get into collecting  rare collectable parts ,you realise Hutch parts aren't anywhere near the proper high priced stuff

Narrow minded ,, for choosing to build a Hutch ?  maybe  more narrow minded  for following the bleaters  ::)

If anything apart from the Aerospeeds  all the Hutch parts are pretty reasonable  ::)

You can name loads of comparable parts that are far dearer,, but I'll give one each to start

Hutch stem,, ESP are dearer

Hutch Hubs ,,,Son lites dearer

Hutch frames ,, VDC dearer

Hutch bars ,,, DP ladder,, did I just say foooking DP bars  :crazy2: yes dearer  :LolLolLolLol:

Hutch seatpost,,, DX post dearer

and so on  :)

I love most BMX's and I like Hutch because they are one of the best brands , and not the dearest  ;)


Each to their own I say , you don't have to like them but it's the same old reason ,,price,, that's why people hate em  :idiot2:

not because they're inferior  :)


It's usually from people who haven't built anything different from the norm who chirp up  :LolLolLolLol:


Best point on this thread, well said Christian
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: ron burgundy on June 01, 2012, 03:00 PM
What's not to like ,as already said

All the valid reasons to like them have been listed .

SOME people have a stigma against them now JUST because the command fairly high prices , and that's it  :crazy2:

  and they're sheep just bleating because somebody else said it ,nobody  goes on about JMC's ,, have any of you thought about trying to build a Darryl Young

,the more you get into collecting  rare collectable parts ,you realise Hutch parts aren't anywhere near the proper high priced stuff

Narrow minded ,, for choosing to build a Hutch ?  maybe  more narrow minded  for following the bleaters  ::)

If anything apart from the Aerospeeds  all the Hutch parts are pretty reasonable  ::)

You can name loads of comparable parts that are far dearer,, but I'll give one each to start

Hutch stem,, ESP are dearer

Hutch Hubs ,,,Son lites dearer

Hutch frames ,, VDC dearer

Hutch bars ,,, DP ladder,, did I just say foooking DP bars  :crazy2: yes dearer  :LolLolLolLol:

Hutch seatpost,,, DX post dearer

and so on  :)

I love most BMX's and I like Hutch because they are one of the best brands , and not the dearest  ;)


Each to their own I say , you don't have to like them but it's the same old reason ,,price,, that's why people hate em  :idiot2:

not because they're inferior  :)


It's usually from people who haven't built anything different from the norm who chirp up  :LolLolLolLol:


Best point on this thread, well said Christian

Only the DX Post can be compared to Hutch. Mass produced tat.

Oh, the DP racing gear... bought by mentals, just like Burners :idiot2:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: beard1973 on June 01, 2012, 03:04 PM
Oh, the DP racing gear... bought by mentals, just like Burners :idiot2:

Do I have to open a big ol' can of 'woop ass' on you.... Mr.Green....  :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: ron burgundy on June 01, 2012, 03:51 PM
Oh, the DP racing gear... bought by mentals, just like Burners :idiot2:

Do I have to open a big ol' can of 'woop ass' on you.... Mr.Green....  :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2: :knuppel2:

Sorry, Boss. ;D
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: hunterdubber on June 01, 2012, 10:23 PM
What's not to like ,as already said

All the valid reasons to like them have been listed .

SOME people have a stigma against them now JUST because the command fairly high prices , and that's it  :crazy2:

  and they're sheep just bleating because somebody else said it ,nobody  goes on about JMC's ,, have any of you thought about trying to build a Darryl Young

,the more you get into collecting  rare collectable parts ,you realise Hutch parts aren't anywhere near the proper high priced stuff

Narrow minded ,, for choosing to build a Hutch ?  maybe  more narrow minded  for following the bleaters  ::)

If anything apart from the Aerospeeds  all the Hutch parts are pretty reasonable  ::)

You can name loads of comparable parts that are far dearer,, but I'll give one each to start

Hutch stem,, ESP are dearer

Hutch Hubs ,,,Son lites dearer

Hutch frames ,, VDC dearer

Hutch bars ,,, DP ladder,, did I just say foooking DP bars  :crazy2: yes dearer  :LolLolLolLol:

Hutch seatpost,,, DX post dearer

and so on  :)

I love most BMX's and I like Hutch because they are one of the best brands , and not the dearest  ;)


Each to their own I say , you don't have to like them but it's the same old reason ,,price,, that's why people hate em  :idiot2:

not because they're inferior  :)


It's usually from people who haven't built anything different from the norm who chirp up  :LolLolLolLol:


Best point on this thread, well said Christian

Only the DX Post can be compared to Hutch. Mass produced tat.

Oh, the DP racing gear... bought by mentals, just like Burners :idiot2:

You're making me work for this Brenny   :D

I did say just to start as a for instance   :),, you and everyone on here know loads and loads dearer yourself   ,I'm  not gonna  tell you how to suck eggs  :angel:

It's just a realisation  to show Hutch are priced less than other parts  that don't get the same stigma  :) :) :)

So some others with higher production run instead

Hutch bars ,,,Haro sig Vectors

Hutch Hubs ,,,OG Bullseye Campagnolo Sherriff

Hutch pedals ,, Bullseye pedals Reedy pedals

Hutch western stem ,,, Brute stems

Hutch seat clamp,,, Suntour clamp from Biagio  :LolLolLolLol:


or basically anything Profile is dearer ,, pedals , lockjaw stems, Champ f&f, etc  :-\


I didn't start the thread and I'm just stating there's no justified reason for hating  Hutch  :)

, just should be simply  that each person doesn't  like the same things  :)







Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: kungfunky on June 01, 2012, 10:27 PM
I'll join in this game..

Hutch seat clamp,,,PLME    Top that Mr Stiltskin  ;D ;D and cook bros wont top it either  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on June 01, 2012, 10:55 PM


It's all Christians fault, burn him......or finger him at MK .......I will wait for MK if that's ok  :smitten:
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Dark Diggler on June 01, 2012, 10:58 PM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p70/simonjturner/turd.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p70/simonjturner/Decorated%20images/georgemichaelfaith.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: NathanRelton on June 01, 2012, 11:00 PM


It's all Christians fault, burn him......or finger him at MK .......I will wait for MK if that's ok  :smitten:

You in the shop tomorrow gay boy xx
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: Clean on June 01, 2012, 11:00 PM
What's "Hutch"?  ???
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on June 02, 2012, 12:27 PM


It's all Christians fault, burn him......or finger him at MK .......I will wait for MK if that's ok  :smitten:

You in the shop tomorrow gay boy xx


Now let me think.....shop or Daytona beach......
Title: Re: Lets get some heated debate going - I dont like Hutch
Post by: hunterdubber on June 02, 2012, 02:27 PM


It's all Christians fault, burn him......or finger him at MK .......I will wait for MK if that's ok  :smitten:



The current  record is 4 fingers at the mo Pete , with a  bit of working I reckon you could manage a full fist  :)
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