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Title: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: dannyrobo2012 on June 27, 2012, 10:56 PM
can any body help me by telling me what this bmx frame might be,i bought this from a car boot sale today for £40 as i was looking for a project , any help would be very great full thanks dan
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/bmxbike.png)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/bmx2.png)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/bmx3.png)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/bmx4.png)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/bmx5.png)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/bmx6.png)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/bmx7.png)
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: anth0ny2009 on June 27, 2012, 11:02 PM
real gentlemans relisher i likey likey nice find dude twin frames always a winner mate.
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: dannyrobo2012 on June 27, 2012, 11:13 PM
thanks,ive been looking for a twin top tube frame for a while now,bidding on ever thing on fee bay,ive had a bloke on here with some amazing  knowledge on bmx bike and whats real and whats coppys.
just wondering what this bike actually is that ive bought.
thanks dan
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: punkdSICO on June 27, 2012, 11:18 PM
If you forget about the forks, the frame looks very much like a DP Freestyler..  No serial number on the rear brake mount so maybe an early Mk1??

Paul
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: ED209 on June 27, 2012, 11:18 PM
that looks like a early DP frame but with Meteor-Lite forks...

You sir... got a BARGAIN!!!!!!!  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: anth0ny2009 on June 27, 2012, 11:21 PM
dan if its to sell on it matters if its cos you just like it ,it dont matter .
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: dannyrobo2012 on June 27, 2012, 11:23 PM
excellent,thanks every so much for all your help, is there and marks or number i should look for when i strip it down to get painted/powder coated/or cromed/
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: dannyrobo2012 on June 27, 2012, 11:28 PM
yeah i really happy with it, i just wanted to know so when i get it sorted i wanted to sticker it up with the right stickers  :)
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: ED209 on June 27, 2012, 11:35 PM
Dan

pm Steve 'Firebird' on RAD... he is THE man for DP knowledge.

Also check out his site http://www.dpfirebird.co.uk ... its the source  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: ED209 on June 27, 2012, 11:37 PM
The one I restored went from this...

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/CIMG2503.jpg)

to this...  :coolsmiley:
 
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/i63/209ed/BMX/P1000787.jpg)
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: ED209 on June 27, 2012, 11:40 PM
just gone back and looked again ... you have some nice rare wheels too  :daumenhoch:

Alloy hubbed Skyways... if theres no cracks you are onto even more of a winner.

 8)
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: ED209 on June 27, 2012, 11:44 PM
http://www.dpfirebird.co.uk/#/firebird-freestyler-page-2/4532775712

"The early mk1 Freestylers didn't have frame numbers so they were added on as some of the frames broke. That way they could keep track of the batches. The GL Plus frames would have started off again with 001  and the same for the Limited Edition Freestyler."
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: dannyrobo2012 on June 27, 2012, 11:48 PM
WOW that is fooooking mint,mine at best will probably look like the top picture lol how much did it cost to get it to look like that,or should i not ask,also if it was a mk1 how many marks does it go up to is there a mk2 mk3 mk4 also what colours is there i was thinking crome or white
the wheels will probably end up for sale on here before long  :)
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: punkdSICO on June 28, 2012, 07:43 AM
Mine when from this:

(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6020/5915474885_7b86c1cdff.jpg)
Light rust in usual places..
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6043/5915474805_045674dcbb.jpg)

To this:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/6932089531_6b411af9bb_z.jpg)

Got mine re-chromed at Hockley.  Personally, I would avoid going for white as nearly all restro jobs end up being white.  Saying this, white was one of the factory colours..

Keep us updated..

Paul
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: pickle on June 28, 2012, 07:52 AM
on the early ones wasn't whit the only colour you could have?  other than chrome of course.

Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: dannyrobo2012 on June 28, 2012, 11:18 AM
thats a very nice bike you have as well, if i can get mine anywhere near as clean or as nice i will be over the moon,i dont want to get carried away with the cost, but i have been looking for a while for a project so this is it, first problem ive got is getting the seat stem out ,then what colour to do it, like you say every one does white lol
ive not even seen the bike yet,i am out of town at the minute and my mate rang me from a car boot saying theres an old bmx here with skyways for £40 so i said get it so untill later ive only seen it in the pictures in his garden.
does anyone know what yeat a mk1 dp it to or from ?
also any suggestion on colour would also be great ?
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: ED209 on June 28, 2012, 11:21 AM
did you get my pm Dan?

you need to go to Steve's site and have a good look through all the info  :daumenhoch:

http://www.dpfirebird.co.uk
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: ED209 on June 28, 2012, 11:23 AM
The seat is so far up it should come out really easily  :daumenhoch:

leave the seat on ( tighten it up if its loose ) undo the seat clamp... WD40 in and I bet it will come straight out  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: dannyrobo2012 on June 28, 2012, 11:40 AM
hi yeah i got it thanks ,ive just sent you a pm back,my mate had undone the seat clamp and soaked it in release oil over night so i will try get it out later when i get to the bike
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: ozone on June 28, 2012, 01:22 PM
Nice find fella.  If you struggle with the post, lie the frame down, clamp a stem to the post then slide a tube (set of forks work well) over the stems shaft and move it up and down until you can turn the post out.  Always worked for me in the past.   
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: skki3330 on June 28, 2012, 02:09 PM
Top booty find  :D good luck finding a pair of forks!
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: ED209 on June 28, 2012, 02:18 PM
Top booty find  :D good luck finding a pair of forks!

Landing Gears  :daumenhoch:

its the only way  ;)

(http://www.planetbmx.com/shop/images/uploads/2010_landing_Gear_1_threaded_011.jpg)
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: dannyrobo2012 on June 28, 2012, 05:36 PM
ive had lots of great help and even a few emails and it seems i stand no chance in getting any dp forks hahah oh well as it will never be a show bike while i have it, i will have to settle for any old forks,them landing gear forks look good,how much would they be and where would i get hold of some.
ive spent about an hour on this bike today and now have the seat post moving and the handle bar stem so all being well they will both be out tonight when i get back to it and it will be a bare frame ready for the powder coaters.
i think the wheels will need new bearings and spindles as they are both about fooked and the rear is bent due to stunt pegs

the seat clip is an sr
the bar stem says forged on the under side
the middle of the crank says sugino and the crank ring is a tioga
i will add more pictures up tonight to show my progress on the frame thanks again so far for all the help
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: dannyrobo2012 on June 28, 2012, 09:49 PM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/P9040371.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/P9040377.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/P9040372.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/P9040374.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/P9040375.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/P9040376.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk19/saracendan/P9040379.jpg)
a few more pictures after tonight,the frame may have been white at some time or even chrome , ive rubbed down over the frame wear the paint had been chipped or bubbling  and all going well so far
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: bobbbbsy on June 28, 2012, 10:05 PM
good stuff!!
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: punkdSICO on June 28, 2012, 10:19 PM
Regarding the forks:  sure, try find some originals but personally, I would not loose any sleep over using the existing forks.  I think they look pretty good and match the frame well..

Paul
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: punkdSICO on June 28, 2012, 10:49 PM
Regarding the forks:  sure, try find some originals but personally, I would not loose any sleep over using the existing forks.  I think they look pretty good and match the frame well..

Paul
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: dannyrobo2012 on June 28, 2012, 11:05 PM
the forks are dented a bit so not going to use them,and i think ive found a pair of 1985 landing gear forks for £60 delivered so quite happy with that,just waiting on a reply 
Title: Re: can anyone tell me what this frame is please
Post by: dannyrobo2012 on July 07, 2012, 09:42 PM
absolutely gutted, ive had my bike acid dipped shot blasted, and powder coated ,got it home took the bubble rap off and its got frame numbers :( why the numbers was filled is i dont no. does anyone know what year a mk2 dp freestyler is
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