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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: animal on August 22, 2012, 08:15 PM
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Just interested 2 c what peeps opinions r . They don't have 2 of been in the show & shine, riders etc anything that was there ;)
mine :-
1st. In2bmx's Blue flat plate Robbo
2nd. Kungkunky's Blue Quad with Tuff 1's on it in black
3rd. The survivor Haro on Jays stand :smitten:
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Fook can't pic just 3 man
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Loads of good bikes but for me the 3 I would most like to have taken home with me are:
1) The Zeronine Pro XL (The best bike there by a country mile).
2) Alex's S&M Challenger
3) Gish's S&M Holme's
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For me,
1st - Nick Swannicks pink orange red Knight Performer
2nd - Manis Fox 4 Styler - again, just love it
3rd - That two tone striped Kuwahara, I'm sorry I don't know who the owner is.
I'm with Pete, there were too many gorgeous bikes to choose only 3.
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Very tough to choose .. :-\
1: Zeronine .. Was lush . Those pads made it look fast
2: Animals badlander with the stem I engraved . :daumenhoch:
3: An ET kuwi I saw ... Always wanted one .
( Sams zebra kuwi , Kappys GJS ) com
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I'd have to go for......and for 3 totally different reasons.
Snav's motorbike BMX, what an ace bit of kit and totally untouched. A friend of mine had one almost exactly the same.
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb413/kungfunky/mk12/122.jpg)
R n R Centurion which was being thrashed round the track, super rare bit of kit doing what it was made to do
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb413/kungfunky/mk12/160.jpg)
And Phill's Black and chrome Whitehawk Racing, A friend of mine has one of these and until recently I didn't really know much about them but the more I learn the more I like them and this is one of the best.
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb413/kungfunky/mk12/089.jpg)
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i couldnt name 3 as so many bikes just killed it...the best show and shine by far this year...i did love that zeronine..a beauty by far...the cycle pro bonzai was amazing as well....jb :daumenhoch:
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The black Nomura, don't know whose it was
Darren's GJS
Carl's Squareback
But so much more.
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I find it odd that Carls and Darrens bikes have been mentioned on various threads but didn't figure in the show n shine :-\
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I find it odd that Carls and Darrens bikes have been mentioned on various threads but didn't figure in the show n shine :-\
X 2 Si.
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in no particular order
GJS
Redline Squareback
baby blue DP
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Jeeez, top 3?? I thought they were all bloody stunning in their own right. Loved 'em all!! :4_17_5: Did see a real nice survivor Thruster ridden around! :LolLolLolLol:
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I find it odd that Carls and Darrens bikes have been mentioned on various threads but didn't figure in the show n shine :-\
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I find it odd that Carls and Darrens bikes have been mentioned on various threads but didn't figure in the show n shine :-\
I don't think it surprised a few of us Si ::) :-X
For me ....
Race bikes..
Carl's squareback . Holy grail bike for me :smitten:
Phil's Whitehawk
Andy's Zeronine XL
Freestylers ..
Kappy's GJS
That mega mint Gen1
Mani's Fox 4styler
and i still love Phil's green March Turbo .... Saw it last year for the first time and loved it , loved it even more this year :D
I could go on and on as the standard of bikes on display was mental , from great survivors to blinged out show stoppers . It was one hell of a great display :4_17_5:
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I find it odd that Carls and Darrens bikes have been mentioned on various threads but didn't figure in the show n shine :-\
:-X
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there was so many bikes that were simply stunning :smitten: i can't name just 3 :-\ :daumenhoch: top effort guys the standard of bikes was mega :4_17_5:
Roll on next year :daumenhoch:
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hard one but.
1.kungfunky, BD III
2.Daz KAP, Vector
3.Wini,Peregrine
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Some fantastic bikes and great to see them in the flesh rather than just in photos.
For me:
1.) Sams Zebra ET
2.) Baby Blue Firebird Freestyler (sorry dont know who's this was)
3.) The Green NOS GT World Tour (again dont know who's this was)
As everyone else has said, 3 just ain't enough.
Great weekend.
Steve
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If people only build bikes to win awards/trophys maybe there in this for the wrong reasons ;)
I don't care what anyone thinks of my builds as i've built them for Me :angel: Not competitions ::)
Just sayin' :daumenhoch:
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If people only build bikes to win awards/trophys maybe there in this for the wrong reasons ;)
I don't care what anyone thinks of my builds as i've built them for Me :angel: Not competitions ::)
Just sayin' :daumenhoch:
I'm with you there Paul. :daumenhoch:
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This thread is useless without pics :-\ :LolLolLolLol:
Come on dudes, post em up :daumenhoch:
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If people only build bikes to win awards/trophys maybe there in this for the wrong reasons ;)
I don't care what anyone thinks of my builds as i've built them for Me :angel: Not competitions ::)
Just sayin' :daumenhoch:
The same could be said for the lads who raid Shiners stall , stocking up on loads of bits that obviously they will never use themselves . In it for the wrong reasons i guess :-\
Just sayin :daumenhoch:
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Impossible job really. Hat's off to the S&S judges :daumenhoch:
All well deserved winners. It couldn't have been easy.
I thought that Nomura & Ash's STR-1 was a bit special :shocked: :shocked:
Phil & Steve's display was totally amazing...talk about British engineering excellence :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain:
& how fooking cool was Steve McQueens GJS - those Zeds, that seat 8)
Carls collection was just stunning, Glynn's Kuwies, Marks Patty I could go on and on...
8) 8)
Oh yeah, I really liked the Cycle Pro Bonzai & Nishiki as well :daumenhoch:
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If people only build bikes to win awards/trophys maybe there in this for the wrong reasons ;)
??? can't think of anyone on here who has done that tbh Paul :-\
Think it's fair to say everyone of us builds bikes the way we want them and within that persons budget :daumenhoch:.
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All mine are budget builds, I couldn't bring myself to ride a show bike.
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AKOFF's pink trick bike .
Meticus haro et copy thingy
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My Three Fvourite bikes from the Saturday MK are.
1. Carls 81 Robinson Expert ( red/Chrome) absolute dream bike of mine :smitten:
2. Black Harofreestler with the black slick tyres... :daumenhoch:
3. Zeronine :coolsmiley:
I take my hat of to you all on Rad, I have nowwere near the knowledge or experience you all have but Its reasuring knowing your there if I need help with the bikes. :daumenhoch:
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red one
blue one
and the black one
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mini = Adams Torker mini , you just dont see them.
freestyle =, Kappys gjs stood out in the crowd for all the right reasons.
race = carls 78 robo
cruiser = Nick swans bright orange/pink/red knight
tent = Ashes full se collection
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far to many gorgeous bikes to pick just 3, well done to all those that won and got medals.....but all the bikes on display were top notch! loved Nicks orange/pink Knight Performer 24, that Haro gen 1 was stunning, BUBBS Changa's, Phil and Steves British tent :smitten:, all those DP's! far to many to mention!!
:4_17_5:
well done to all the judges though, i would've hated the job to honest.....but they did a cracking job! :daumenhoch:
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for me
gish holmes was lovely
whitehawk done by sawzall
pk ripper kungfunky i think red one with skinny wheels look cool as something different
ps only there sat so don`t know what came out sunday
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That red Ripper was Scotts own one from BITD Paul :shocked:
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I thought that seperating the Race and Freestyle bikes looked great! all those mid 80's colours in a row looked proper 80's!
Loved the Pink Hutch Trickstar as well :smitten: the Red one next to it wasn't half bad either ;D
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All the bikes at MK were in my top 3, you were ALL winners for taking part :4_17_5:
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All the bikes at MK were in my top 3, you were ALL winners for taking part :4_17_5:
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Simply pant creamingly awesome turn out of sexual radness.
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Loved Snavs little motorbike survivor , proper nice little survivor and really good fun to sit on and make motorbike noises.
I thought that the Black Zeronine was really nice and the attention to detail was excelent
all of Ashs SE's were top notch , really liked the older theme he had going on.
Sawzalls side hack , it was his BITD and fully restored by him and his wife. cracking job
The haro gen 1 with spokes was nice to see as well
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Simply pant creamingly awesome turn out of sexual radness.
;D steady Lee ;)
Although I didnt go was lucky enough to see Southern Andy's ZeroNine, Rickman, MRD, and Nishiki last night. Absolutely mint! His next build is going to be pretty spesh too I reckon.
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The same could be said for the lads who raid Shiners stall , stocking up on loads of bits that obviously they will never use themselves . In it for the wrong reasons i guess :-\
Just sayin :daumenhoch:
But those are the same people that build there bikes for themselves and will have parts on stock so will have no need to hunt them down ::)
They don't need trophy's :daumenhoch:
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Simply pant creamingly awesome turn out of sexual radness.
;D steady Lee ;)
:-[ I'm easily excited.... :bondage:
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Anyway back on track it's hard to just have 3 :laugh:
In no particular order, Squareback, R&R and BDIII all 3 are amazing builds in the flesh :4_17_5:
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in no particular order phils whitehawk, marky p's patterson long, monkians rhino charge
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I find it odd that Carls and Darrens bikes have been mentioned on various threads but didn't figure in the show n shine :-\ :-X
I'll try and answer this one if anyone thinks that somethings amiss here?
And only using Darren's GJS as the example but not isolating it:
This truly did stand out from the crowd..... :daumenhoch: However it wasn't original - the stem, pedals, hubs and seat clamp were all sprayed up with the same orange paint (colour coded for effect). The effect was that it looked great.
Unfortunately that does not count as original finish, Its difficult to judge when the bike looked so good, but you must surely all agree that this is about old school bmx and not a custom bike show. Custom Bikes at present fall into the retro new school, where you can do anything you like, only your imagination is the limit.
The bikes that were medaled or got trophies in our opinion's encapsulated Old School BMX in its truest sense - both nostalgic and original. (original finishes where applicable, original parts - No repro parts got through to our knowledge as that's too easy). etc. etc.
Its been said before, but I will say it again here, it was very difficult to judge with so many great bikes this year.
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the three bikes that markyp took with him :LolLolLolLol:
seriously though waaaaaaaaaaaay to many bikes to pick just three,although southernhandshandys zeronine was a well deserved winner of bike of the show,now that is one ride id love in my stable :smitten:
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Hmmmm 3 bikes :crazy2: :crazy2:
1.....Phils Orange Vincent, always loved this bike and it's even better now.
2..... The blue and gold cyclepro. Beautiful.
3..... Dans Profile Cruiser.
I appreciate the peeps that have commented on my Zeronine Pro XL, there was nearly 18 months of work there to get it how i would have wanted it back in the day.
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Phil's Whitehawk, Carl's 79 Chrome Robbo, Craig Curbo's Cycle Pro :daumenhoch:
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it's such a hard choice to pick 3 as there are so many top builds done in this country :Great_Britain:
but here goes,in no order
southern andy's -zeronine (worthy winner of best in show)
stidds- cook brothers
steves-mrd pro xl
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Please don't take this the wrong way, as it is a brilliant piece of engineering, and I have nothing but respect for Steve (Animal) and what he does, but is his stem on the MRD not a replica?
No repro parts got through to our knowledge
Just a talking point really, but what is the difference?
Mark M
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Please don't take this the wrong way, as it is a brilliant piece of engineering, and I have nothing but respect for Steve (Animal) and what he does, but is his stem on the MRD not a replica?
No repro parts got through to our knowledge
Just a talking point really, but what is the difference?
Mark M
To be fair I think there is a pretty big difference between someone custom making a piece that is literally rocking horse poo, and going to porkchop and buying a reprop item for example. That stem was a work of art and far from a knock off item someone can buy off the shelf. Thats the way I see it anyway, but I hear your point.
EDIT TO ADD: Just to clarify I was not a judge at MK, Im just offering my 2p. :daumenhoch:
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In that case all the bikes sporting Del's graphics are not eligible to win then? ???
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There was nothing in the rules about bikes with repop parts not being eligible to win the S and S. ???
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There was nothing in the rules about bikes with repop parts not being eligible to win the S and S. ???
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There are no rules about show n shine, other than year and category.
Those were the judges criteria that's all. It's a tough job which I would not want to do! You will never please everyone
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I could have saved myself a tenner, all my bikes look like they have crashed in Porkchops stock room.
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I Look at it like I do BOTM, I only enter for shytes n giggles and it if no one entered cos they thought they won't win then we'd have hardly any bikes to look at over the weekend.
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How about a Concours class for those who are lucky enough to have those NOS era correct parts. Then some leeway can be given to the other categories to allow those on a modest budget have a chance of recognition.
Just a thought!
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That's what the medals were for. It's never going to please everyone.
We did a survivor class a few years back but it was impossible to distinguish what was actually a true survivor ???
A bike built with old parts is not a survivor in my book.........a survivor is a complete bike still as it was from BITD, warts and all just dusted down. It caused a lot of Grief so was dropped and I wouldn't think it'll be back.
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The medal system failed Rob IMO as there was a bike with a medal on that had repop grips, the seat guts were on backwards and the cables were incorrectly routed.
It's details like that judges should notice.
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Rob, I agree completely with your definition of a survivor.
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There was nothing in the rules about bikes with repop parts not being eligible to win the S and S. ???
Of course there wasn't, however as a judge of the S&S if I saw a bike with orignal parts and one with repop parts then it stands to reason (and common sense) that the original one would place higher.
As for the 'medal system', I personally gave medals to bikes that I really liked regardless of the parts on them (whether repops or not), in my eyes it was an acknowlegment of a really nice looking bike.
However bikes with repop, completely era incorrect, etc is never going to win the one of the top 3 trophies.
Look at it this way, if I had a classic VW beetle and took it to a VW show and entered it in their S&S do you really think it would win anything if it had modern bucket seats, modern alloys, repop wings and doors etc? Of course it wouldn't.
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Fair point Sean. :angel:
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Fair point Sean. :angel:
Don't agree with me, I just talk sh*t most of the time :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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:LolLolLolLol:
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Fair point Sean. :angel:
Don't agree with me, I just talk sh*t most of the time :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Aint that the truth :-X
I've said this before and maybe a "peoples" choice should be included into the trophies. Keep the judging as it is and give everyone else a vote using a ballot box, tally the votes up and the bike with the most wins something. That way everyone's had a say in what wins, just an idea. :-\
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should have had a 'best replica' class.... ^"^
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Judges i dont envy you all for one minute , so many bikes at m.k. , and so many rare bikes too. but how about next year a new class.... "the bike id like to own the most ". no "rules" what i mean is it doesnt have to be era correct , repop decals pads etc doesnt come into it, freestyle parts mixed with race parts . it just doesnt matter . its a class were you just simply like the look of the bike no matter how wrong or right it is. Because lets face it thats how most of us ran our bikes bitd :daumenhoch: just an idea ........ BUT A GOOD ONE :daumenhoch:
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That's a great idea Ash, I will help count votes if this is executed.
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Rob, I agree completely with your definition of a survivor.
The problem is nick, how can we tell if it's just been built with old parts or not just to try and win something ???
Ash, we tried that as well but it was open to abuse so we dropped it the next year as well :daumenhoch:
I honestly don't see any problem with what we have now, they have been the same for 3 years now. A bike doesn't have to be as it came from the shop, but an 80's bike with new twin pinch flights will not win.
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SO it looks like my other idea for MK13 is far better then ;D
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if i provide the trophies could i create my own class for next year?.... :)
first class could be best 'bob haro et replica' class....
another class maybe best chrome VDC with red parts on and skyways....
:LolLolLolLol:
hell, i might even win somethin..... ;D
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That's a great idea Ash, I will help count votes if this is executed.
im sure you would help count Dan 1 , 2 miss a few 99 my G.T. wins :LolLolLolLol:
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but an 80's bike with new twin pinch flights will not win.
can i just say that them things and modern font a'me's are my bug bear.fookin do my head right in :2gunsfiring_v1:
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but an 80's bike with new twin pinch flights will not win.
can i just say that them things and modern font a'me's are my bug bear.fookin do my head right in :2gunsfiring_v1:
+1
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my favourite 3 bikes were
southern andy's zeronine
in2bms redline squareback
JT smooths £28 POS racer :LolLolLolLol:
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That's a great idea Ash, I will help count votes if this is executed.
im sure you would help count Dan 1 , 2 miss a few 99 my G.T. wins :LolLolLolLol:
Obviously I'm not entering Len, so my independent counting skills are on hand if needed.
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my favourite 3 bikes were
southern andy's zeronine
in2bms redline squareback
JT smooths £28 POS racer :LolLolLolLol:
Back in the room :LolLolLolLol:
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my favourite 3 bikes were
southern andy's zeronine
in2bms redline squareback
JT smooths £28 POS racer :LolLolLolLol:
Did u feel how heavy that POS racer was . We were joking that it had lead tubing .
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my favourite 3 bikes were
southern andy's zeronine
in2bms redline squareback
JT smooths £28 POS racer :LolLolLolLol:
Did u feel how heavy that POS racer was . We were joking that it had lead tubing .
yeah steve he was in the tent next to us on the helipad so had the privilege of watching scampering about Mk looking for bits & building it.
was amazed he jumped both sets of doubles on it and not breaking anything
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The show and shine has always been a few well respected collectors being asked to spend hours judging the bikes based on their opinion. That way we get a ever changing viewpoint a differing style every year.
The problem will always be that everyone has differing opinions to the judges
Adopting a scoring based tick box type competition loses the passion and turns what should be abit of fun into a serious affair that is not what we should be about
I know it is difficult to build a really sweet bike and to not be recognised for what loads of people would class as trophy winner is not great and I do except that the format of judging is flawed in that it is based on the opinion of the judges better that than the alternative
But we will think on a more inclusive way of rewarding the effort that we all put in to building kids bikes
Rich
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my favourite 3 bikes were
southern andy's zeronine
in2bms redline squareback
JT smooths £28 POS racer :LolLolLolLol:
Did u feel how heavy that POS racer was . We were joking that it had lead tubing .
yeah steve he was in the tent next to us on the helipad so had the privilege of watching scampering about Mk looking for bits & building it.
was amazed he jumped both sets of doubles on it and not breaking anything
did anyone get a picture of it ???
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my favourite 3 bikes were
southern andy's zeronine
in2bms redline squareback
JT smooths £28 POS racer :LolLolLolLol:
Did u feel how heavy that POS racer was . We were joking that it had lead tubing .
yeah steve he was in the tent next to us on the helipad so had the privilege of watching scampering about Mk looking for bits & building it.
was amazed he jumped both sets of doubles on it and not breaking anything
did anyone get a picture of it ???
I have one or two from Saturday night , not uploaded my pics yet from MK but will put one up when i do ;)
I also have the full bike minus the bars here to go with my other KHS Duster survivor F&F :D John did well coming 4th and he's been signed up again to race it again next year !!
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The show and shine has always been a few well respected collectors being asked to spend hours judging the bikes based on their opinion. That way we get a ever changing viewpoint a differing style every year.
The problem will always be that everyone has differing opinions to the judges
Adopting a scoring based tick box type competition loses the passion and turns what should be abit of fun into a serious affair that is not what we should be about
I know it is difficult to build a really sweet bike and to not be recognised for what loads of people would class as trophy winner is not great and I do except that the format of judging is flawed in that it is based on the opinion of the judges better that than the alternative
But we will think on a more inclusive way of rewarding the effort that we all put in to building kids bikes
Rich
Fact !!!! And that's why I love you
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3 is too hard it really is.
I wouldn't have knocked Andy back if he had wanted me to take that zeronine home though.
I loved phils whitehawk and nick swans cw cruiser. I feel a bit off mentioning those alone because i wouldn't want to take anything away from how many i was just as blown away by.
Can't believe i forgot to look at Animals stems either, really kicking myself over that and missing so many off my want to say hello list.
I have to say too i really enjoyed walking round Carls collection, how he had them all dated in progression just give me that museum feel. It was as though i could feel the Robinson history unfolding in front of me. :coolsmiley:
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Glynn, the fact that Carl got those Robbo's out at all on saturday deserves a mention, he was a shell of a man.
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I have to say too i really enjoyed walking round Carls collection, how he had them all dated in progression just give me that museum feel. It was as though i could feel the Robinson history unfolding in front of me. :coolsmiley:
That was fantastic how he did that :daumenhoch:
Same again next year please Carl :4_17_5:
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I liked...
Sam's Bob Haro Kuwie
Ash's Blue PK Ripper
Who's Redline Squareback was that? :daumenhoch:
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1. Andy's Zeronine - Have always loved those :4_17_5:
2. Bob Haro Kuwahara
3. All the others
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I liked...
Sam's Bob Haro Kuwie
Ash's Blue PK Ripper
Who's Redline Squareback was that? :daumenhoch:
the square back belongs to Mr Robinson himself Carl in2bmx :daumenhoch:
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(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8302/7817323172_e45e43d339_b.jpg)
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(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8302/7817323172_e45e43d339_b.jpg)
i got some pics of that little beaut as well!
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Glynn, the fact that Carl got those Robbo's out at all on saturday deserves a mention, he was a shell of a man.
Thanks Dan .. that's a perfect discription of the way i felt ;D
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Like I said above, all the bikes are winners and respect to all those involved in the displays :4_17_5:
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As everyone has already said they are all winners.
was so happy mine got first a shock indeed.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8421/7817177688_5c102e75dd_c.jpg)
And im already starting on the nos Haro frame n forks project from Shiners :idiot2:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8301/7832393958_045438919f_c.jpg)
roll on next year
will they be doing an over 50s race ;D :2funny:
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mine.....
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z393/quattro2011/016-6.jpg)
mine.....
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ii194/quattro2008/002-25.jpg)
oh! and mine.....
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z393/quattro2011/018-3.jpg)
:coolsmiley: :coolsmiley:
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none of yours are mint enough sam , i like survivors myself but a lot are looking at mint condition
:LolLolLolLol: only joking all your bikes are always stunning i want to see you with a rusty bike :daumenhoch:
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I love that kuwi Sam :smitten:. If I hadn't stopped buying stuff that would have been a perfect pub rider ...
I could fly home on it .. :D
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none of yours are mint enough sam , i like survivors myself but a lot are looking at mint condition
:LolLolLolLol: only joking all your bikes are always stunning i want to see you with a rusty bike :daumenhoch:
I love that kuwi Sam :smitten:. If I hadn't stopped buying stuff that would have been a perfect pub rider ...
I could fly home on it .. :D
its been adopted now carl... i hope it stays like it is....
none of yours are mint enough sam , i like survivors myself but a lot are looking at mint condition
:LolLolLolLol: only joking all your bikes are always stunning i want to see you with a rusty bike :daumenhoch:
i'm still smokin about on your old ripper, and it gets knocked about a bit.... ;)
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These 3 were mentioned in this thread, so here you go :daumenhoch:
1986 CW Pro Motion Cruiser
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx358/nickswan1/Bikes/cw2.jpg)
NOS 1985 GT World Tour
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx358/nickswan1/Bikes/DSCF1498.jpg)
2009 Knight Performer in pink/orange/red :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx358/nickswan1/Bikes/DSCF1509.jpg)
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I do love that grey Kappa next to the CW Nick.
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I do love that grey Kappa next to the CW Nick.
Yeah me too, is it Dave's (Hutchman)? Can we see some better shots please Dave?
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yes it is mine....i'll see what i can do pics wise. :daumenhoch:
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here ya go...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r23/Bellsta--x/DSCN3948.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r23/Bellsta--x/DSCN3947.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r23/Bellsta--x/DSCN3946.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r23/Bellsta--x/DSCN3945.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r23/Bellsta--x/DSCN3944.jpg)
even got a grey cat to match!!
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Nice! But those bars need to come back a bit more :daumenhoch:
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done!!
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My penny's worth...
Seems to me the show and shine is as difficult as ever to Judge and retain the format of which to base the points and decision on (I would hate judging) Ive judged many a Concourse at car shows and unless you have the absolutely 100% true basis upon which to judge , I.E Catogoraise the models/bikes and decide is originallity better than restored cars/bikes. What is thought of the use of genuine components and paint work etc there are always going to be the issue's with everyones penny's worth over what should place and were etc..
What Evolved for us over the years was we found we were presented with a double edged sword, cars that were absolutley correct and just got better and better everytime out in the show until they were absolutley unbeatable motors, the other side of the sword was that the standards were so high we found the numbers of entrants dropped through the floor and we were judging the same cars every time out....It became a Cheque book Concourse.....for the owners who threw everything into it
One format we employed was to break the Catogories down more we fragment the classes down, yes there will be more trophies to award, yes there will be winners and losers albeit there will be more numbers with more chance of acheiving awards..
I am a novice when it comes to these bikes and I would just choose the most original bike I could find it the show and award that the winner, albeit on the other hand when you weigh up bikes that have either been sourced in the Uk, Europe or the States and the components have been NOS on a shelf somewere in the world for two or three decades thats just mind blowing those parts have been brought together for us all to enjoy.
You can always award the "Bike of the Day" for the over all winner.
Hard work Good Luck... :daumenhoch:
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I imagine if you set a formula for judging then you can only end up with the same result....era correct, shiney, expensive...how much can you really improve on something that ticks all the boxes?
My brother gave some advice to a friend on selecting the best bike to buy one day...his answer, "CHOOSE THE ONE THAT GIVES YOU A BONE-ON"
Maybe that could be a new category for next time.
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I imagine if you set a formula for judging then you can only end up with the same result....era correct, shiney, expensive...how much can you really improve on something that ticks all the boxes?
My brother gave some advice to a friend on selecting the best bike to buy one day...his answer, "CHOOSE THE ONE THAT GIVES YOU A BONE-ON"
Maybe that could be a new category for next time.
They'd be some stiff competition for that award! :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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I imagine if you set a formula for judging then you can only end up with the same result....era correct, shiney, expensive...how much can you really improve on something that ticks all the boxes?
My brother gave some advice to a friend on selecting the best bike to buy one day...his answer, "CHOOSE THE ONE THAT GIVES YOU A BONE-ON"
Maybe that could be a new category for next time.
They'd be some stiff competition for that award! :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Yes could be a HARD one to win :2funny:
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I'm not even gonna RISE to this. ::)
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I can't be doing with stock builds. It's not how we had them bitd, it's not how I want one now. I make exceptions for special editions like the Harry Leary turbo which had its own parts.