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Title: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Leatherman on September 07, 2012, 12:14 AM: So a guy i was dealing with on a real nice black Redneck mentioned he had some other goodies so i asked him what he had and he sent me pics of this Challenger and i just had to have it. :idiot2:

(Also had to have the 2 sets of Dancing man slams and an early Holmes with no 990 mounts) :uglystupid2:

Well the stuff arrived today and i am stoked as the Challenger is in incredible shape.

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_3321.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_3323.jpg)

While i was waiting for the Frame to arrive i did some searching elsewhere and found these forks:

(http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i355/bamf227/b56d4bc3.jpg)

Unfortunately they have a small crack< what do you think? Fixable?

(http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i355/bamf227/ff090522.jpg)

I am not really a pad guy so i traded an almost NOS set of S&M pads for this wheelset:

(http://i45.tinypic.com/vn2zb6.jpg)

(http://i45.tinypic.com/10fqpvt.jpg)

(http://i45.tinypic.com/ivziwk.jpg)

And after a few beers the other night i decided i needed COMP III's so i went looking and found a set elsewhere but decided to check out Ebay and low and behold found these for 25.00 cheaper than i planned: http://www.ebay.com/itm/370643493949'ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648

So now i have the frame, fork (in need of repair), Beartrap 2 headset, Black Pitbull 1 (haven't decided on lever), GT wheelset and Tioga tyres.

Now my questions to you what do i do for:

Seat; I have an old San Marcos which i may use
Post; probably just something generic that holds the seat (not a primo rod type)
SPC; need suggestions, what is a nice early mid school one?
Cranks; will stamped Profile's be OK or are they too late of an issue to be relatively era correct?
Sprocket; Thinking 44T Ripsaw...
Stem; I have a nice pro sized silver DK with a black cap that i think would work
Bars; I have these nice mid school DK bars that i can't nail down a year on but they are nice and wide also have a couple sets of dancing man slams.
Grips; I'd like something other than Jive's or Tri's

Here are the bars and stem i am thinking of using:

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_3331.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_3332.jpg)

All suggestions appreciated. :coolsmiley: ::)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: dordymush on September 07, 2012, 12:34 AM: great find that challenger. looks mint.
not to sure on the bars.best get em fitted and see what they look like.
mind im a slam bar manic so take no notice of me :uglystupid2:.

oh by the way if you get any more pads you dont wanna fit give me a pm :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: stuntmaster on September 07, 2012, 07:34 AM: those bars are spot on as have a few set and are really nice bars to ride with , looks a great set up there
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Gish on September 07, 2012, 07:36 AM: loving the early challenger don great catch that is :smitten:

the challenger is the best bike i have ridden and would never sell mine :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: kev-s on September 07, 2012, 09:49 AM: cool find :daumenhoch:

the holmes looks to be a mk3 one, quite rare for a mk3 not to have ad mounts (they were optional and most people opted for them)

as for the challenger forks id leave em, the crack dosent look too bad and if you repaired them it would mean stripping the chrome and once welded re-chroming them and the repair weld prob wont be as good as the original

wheels are cool, sun chinooks are nice rims (ive a set waiting for a mk1 holmes)

Seat; I have an old San Marcos which i may use :4_17_5:

Post; probably just something generic that holds the seat (not a primo rod type) :daumenhoch:

SPC; need suggestions, what is a nice early mid school one? whats spc? i thought Single Piece Crank but u have crank below
if it is 1 piece crank then any late 80's one is best like tioga etc...

Cranks; will stamped Profile's be OK or are they too late of an issue to be relatively era correct? too late redline flights would be best 1/2 wrap single pinch :daumenhoch:

Sprocket; Thinking 44T Ripsaw... :daumenhoch:

Stem; I have a nice pro sized silver DK with a black cap that i think would work :daumenhoch:

Bars; I have these nice mid school DK bars that i can't nail down a year on but they are nice and wide also have a couple sets of dancing man slams. mk2 slams would be perfect but the dancing man ones will do fine, dk's are slightly older iirc :daumenhoch:

Grips; I'd like something other than Jive's or Tri's odyssey power paws :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Dark Diggler on September 07, 2012, 11:06 AM: Single dropout challenger forks, rare for a reason I'm afraid. Be worth getting em sorted though if you want to ride it :daumenhoch:

Good score
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: nosepickben on September 07, 2012, 11:36 AM: Spc - seat post clamp. Why not use a dk to go with the bars or a gt single bolt? Great stuff you' ve got hold of, you're at the best part of the build now, choosing the finishing touches. Now stop teasing us and show us a terrific complete bike next week!!!!!
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: midschooljon on September 07, 2012, 11:57 AM: This should be good! Looking forward to updates. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: kev-s on September 07, 2012, 11:59 AM: Quote from: nosepickben on September 07, 2012, 11:36 AM
Spc - seat post clamp. Why not use a dk to go with the bars or a gt single bolt? Great stuff you' ve got hold of, you're at the best part of the build now, choosing the finishing touches. Now stop teasing us and show us a terrific complete bike next week!!!!!

doh!! of course :LolLolLolLol:

yep a dk or gt one would be good :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Leatherman on September 07, 2012, 02:50 PM: Thanks for all the input guys, we are on the same page with DK extras like the SPC as that is what i was thinking too but seeing as i will be running the pitbull i may also opt for the pozi clamp style rather than the arm off the pitbull.

I figured the stamped profile's were a little new for 1992 but i do have a set of 1/2 wrap Redlines on my Widowmaker that i was thinking about swapping over.

Del has been contacted about decals so hopefully he can assist. :smitten:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Jaymz on September 07, 2012, 02:56 PM: Looking good. Nice bar choice. Something different. I'm just tweaking my first dirtbike. An ng to start me off. Keep looking and tweaking so far. Pretty hard to get right on the bike when in my head it looks great
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Gish on September 07, 2012, 05:25 PM: i have the single dropout forks on my challenger :daumenhoch:

ultra rare as diggler says ;)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Betty on September 07, 2012, 07:25 PM: Can't wait to see this built, nice job on finding the forks, rocking horse poo comes to mind

Mine has double dropout forks

It won't be a 92 the first ones were very late 93

You know who to ask for the stickers ;)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Leatherman on September 07, 2012, 08:51 PM: The Challenger's were first introduced in late 93? ???
Decals were ordered this morning from one of this site's more reputable members. ;)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: kev-s on September 07, 2012, 09:16 PM: yep challenger was mid to late 93

mental jimmys feb 93 and no challenger

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/1003/escrs/mail%20order%20ads/MentalJimmysFeb93-1.jpg)

mental jimmys dec 93 and there is the challenger

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/1003/escrs/mail%20order%20ads/MentalJimmysDec93-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: teamsano on September 08, 2012, 05:03 PM: i was at s+m in aug 93 and they had challengers then, which had been out for a while if i recall correctly.
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Leatherman on September 20, 2012, 03:49 PM: My forks and decals showed (Thanks Del you kick ass). I bought these unknown/unconfirmed forks for 60.00 thinking they sure as hell look like they could be early Challenger forks so if anyone can confirm/deny i would appreciate it.

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_3404_zps5bf0e44f.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_3403_zps7358a8ce.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_3402_zps3e2a79f0.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_3401_zps3e9819fd.jpg)

And now i am torn.....

My decals showed, do i remove what appears to be an original headtube decal (why would that decal be on a Challenger)?

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_3405_zpsca53181c.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_3406_zps8d985d85.jpg)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Gish on September 20, 2012, 04:11 PM: yeah don them forks are challenger race forks and are like rocking horse poo :daumenhoch:

the reason i know is because i have a pair on my challenger ;)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Leatherman on September 20, 2012, 05:09 PM: Thanks G. :D
I dry fit the wheels last night and have a set of unstamped Profile cranks, yellow Turbo seat and black Pitbulls in the mail so this is really coming together nicely.
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: midschooljon on September 20, 2012, 09:24 PM: This is going to be awesome once done. Love how it's coming together. :smitten:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Betty on September 20, 2012, 09:40 PM: I'd take the shield sticker off :daumenhoch:

Those are Challenger forks, mine are identical apart from thicker double sandwich dropouts with full welds on the insides

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/3-9-12018_zps5c33ef5f.jpg)

We need finished pics of the bike asap :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: misterminibus on September 21, 2012, 07:31 AM: "a few beers the other night i decided i needed"

Thats fatel matey, I had a few beers the other month and 3 weeks later my new ti bride arrived in the post :2funny:

Nice looking machines :)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: hboost on September 27, 2012, 10:43 PM: Leave the headtube decal on bro!!!
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Leatherman on October 06, 2012, 01:22 AM: A couple crappy teaser pics.

Here it is so far:

32H GT hubs laced to Chinook rims with repro comp 3's
GT stamped Profile cranks
DK stem
Believe it or not i found an original set of uncut Challenger bars that are in the mail
Also in the mail is a refurbished set of black CRUPI square cages that will go on a NOS set of Oddysey TT bodies
Getting rid of the current lever after the refinishing is done on a tech 77
yellow ame tri's are in the mail too along with one of them new black/silver izumi chains.

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_0945.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_0946.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_0947.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_0948.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/IMG_0950.jpg)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Dark Diggler on October 06, 2012, 05:55 AM: looking good!
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: kev-s on October 06, 2012, 08:43 AM: looks good :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: midschooljon on October 06, 2012, 09:28 AM: This build is looking really good. Keep the updates coming.
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Gish on October 06, 2012, 09:44 AM: Looking real good don :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: rooski on October 06, 2012, 10:36 AM: Selle turbo and Chinook rims look well 8)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Leatherman on October 30, 2012, 06:22 PM: Thanks guys, here it is complete.
My camera sucks and we got an unusual blast of a foot of snow and it isn't even November. :uglystupid2:

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/PA290039.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/PA2900472.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/PA290041.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/PA2900542.jpg)

Frame: S&M 93 Challenger
Fork: S&M Challenger
Headset: 1" Odyssey Pro
Cranks: GT Profile
Pedals: Odyssey Triple Traps with Crupi cages
Stem: DK
Bars: S&M Slams
Grips: EZ Jive's
Brakes: Odyssey Pitbulls with Tech 77 lever
SPC: PMC
Post: Generic
Seat: Turbo
Wheels: 32H GT race lace to SUN Chinook's
Tires: Tioga Comp III
Drivetrain: 44T Profile Ripsaw to Shimano 333 Freewheel with IZUMI chain.
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Dannywhac on October 30, 2012, 06:24 PM: Very nice Don :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: martin46 on October 30, 2012, 06:34 PM: Real nice :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: nosepickben on October 30, 2012, 06:37 PM: Beautiful bike :shocked: Nice bars. I'd love a challenger XL......
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: midschooljon on October 30, 2012, 07:20 PM: Looks lovely Don. You have done an awesome job with this one. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Betty on October 30, 2012, 11:22 PM: Sweet :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: kev-s on October 30, 2012, 11:39 PM: looking good :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:

love the yellow selle italia turbo seat :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Leatherman on November 15, 2012, 04:59 PM: Got a set of NOS Challenger bars so i had to bolt them on.
I know the stem is a little new for the bike but i couldn't resist as the knurling is 2" wide so i put the DK stem on my 92 DB.

Think it's finished....

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/PB130109.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/PB130110.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/PB130111.jpg)

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p608/Dipsomaniac_2012/1992%20Challenger/PB130112.jpg)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Gish on November 15, 2012, 05:13 PM: thats proper nice that don :smitten:

wouldnt mind a set of challenger bars for mine & a set of yellow s&m dx type pedals aswell ::)
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Betty on November 15, 2012, 05:53 PM: Apart from the redneck it's perfect, find a TNT stem for it :daumenhoch:

Red S&M pedals any good Gish?
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Gish on November 15, 2012, 05:57 PM: Quote from: Betty on November 15, 2012, 05:53 PM
Apart from the redneck it's perfect, find a TNT stem for it :daumenhoch:

Red S&M pedals any good Gish?

Had a red pair mark and didn't want to fook them up by spraying them yellow :-\
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: rooski on November 15, 2012, 07:21 PM: Very nice dude :smitten:

Some nice touches on there,PMC,Crupi etc :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: midschooljon on November 15, 2012, 08:33 PM: Love this build Don. :smitten: A TNT stem and its perfect.
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: nosepickben on November 15, 2012, 11:07 PM: That stem looks so much better. I really would like a go on it. Just deserves a tricker lever for me.
Great great bike.
Title: Re: Had to start another one: 1992 Challenger
Post by: Austin 3:16 on February 05, 2013, 03:56 AM: Best challenger I have seen hands down