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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: Darren KAP on September 07, 2012, 11:13 PM
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As most of you probably already know i don't mind helping other Radsters out with repairs and spraying to there frames etc and to be totally honest i really enjoy doing it plus it gives me some extra pp fundage . I never charge what i could be earning as i do it as n when i get chance . I posted in the messers section earlier agreeing that yes that 99% on Rad are spot on to deal with etc but i've now got another problem where i've done work etc for some who's not playing the game as i made the mistake of posting out or letting them collect and pay me a little later , i also put that i've got 4 who are not coming forward with the cash and that i won't name them just yet ,
Well to my surprise 1 of them then texts me about what i've put , so it proves this certain Radster can get in touch when it suits him .
Well today it's come to ahead i want it sorting i'm sick of being given the run around >:(
What are your thoughts guys as my heads really fooked over this and it's really spoiling my hobby
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Never been stung but I'm with you all the way, this site should be about helping and appreciating that help, name and shame and fook them.
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Oh dear Kappy, not good............ :shocked:
Done mine yet? :LolLolLolLol:
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I would not ask someone to do me some work unless i had the cash there ready ???
Been stung myself with another hobby so peeps do get stuff until i see the cash.
If you have tried getting in touch with them and it's obvious they are avoiding you name and shame dont help them out again. Peeps like dat only spoil it forthe rest of us as you might just stop helping everyone >:(
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Get um named ::)
Maybe they have a reason for not paying ???
I know I've let people take Bikes and Parts from me and they haven't paid for weeks with promises of payment :crazy2: I had to chase them too ::)
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fooking name them
the other thing i would say is that after all euphoria of getting into this scene descends
the community can seem not as tight as we would like
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I would not ask someone to do me some work unless i had the cash there ready ???
I would be the same :daumenhoch:
Shame you have to post this Darren , it's meant to be a hobby and a bit of fun at the end of the day with lads helping each other out . Never had any bad dealings on here myself and i do believe the majority of RADsters are genuine top lads but there will always be a few who will take the p155 :(
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That's what happens when people take advantage of your good nature... Don't go changing mate its the git who isn't paying you that needs to sort it out . I hope there is a valid reason behind the non payment ... Stay cool.
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name em shame em fook em :daumenhoch:
seems that people who go out of their way to be helpful always get a shafting..... :rant:
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Name and shame mate so they can't fook everyone over .. :daumenhoch:
there's Some back stabbing clicky fookers on here ..
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Get the money up front Darren.
I imagine unless its an unknown like our kids celica you can give a pretty accurate price or at least ask for 3/4 of what you think it may be. I never start any work without at least 50% up front no matter what the job is :daumenhoch:
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there's Some back stabbing clicky fookers on here ..
Correct :daumenhoch:
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There's also a lot of muggy cnuts ::)
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But plenty of rad fookers too eh? ;)
if only it was a perfek world....
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I'd have a massive one if it was
But i digress....
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Get the money up front Darren.
I imagine unless its an unknown like our kids celica you can give a pretty accurate price or at least ask for 3/4 of what you think it may be. I never start any work without at least 50% up front no matter what the job is :daumenhoch:
When it's a car build i ask for 1K as part payment but it's non returnable , but i've never asked in the 19 years of being in business for cash up front for repairs / spraying etc i just fund it .
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So you've painted peoples bikes and sent them back without payment?
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So you've painted peoples bikes and sent them back without payment?
yes plus loads of bits too ,
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It's sad to see things like this posted :(
I think the only answer in future is to give people a defined deadline of when they'll have to pay, or if they can't get the funds to you, then the job has to go on hold until they can
I know some people are desperate to get their bike finished, but if they can't fund the build, then they can't fund the build, it has to be as simple as that surely :-\
Its one thing doing a favour to help fellow Radsters, its another to be left out of pocket for doing that favour.....thats just wrong, I feel for your dilema man
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So you've painted peoples bikes and sent them back without payment?
yes plus loads of bits too ,
:shocked:
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:-X bit strong maybe...
i'll delete that till you get paid
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lol your on form tonight bob
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You know me Dave ;)
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Get the money up front Darren.
I imagine unless its an unknown like our kids celica you can give a pretty accurate price or at least ask for 3/4 of what you think it may be. I never start any work without at least 50% up front no matter what the job is :daumenhoch:
When it's a car build i ask for 1K as part payment but it's non returnable , but i've never asked in the 19 years of being in business for cash up front for repairs / spraying etc i just fund it .
I hear you Darren and i used to be exactly the same but have been in too many situations in the past with people playing silly buggers. Thankfully since i started my own business all the customers i have seem to be great and a few have become friends but back when i fitted kitchens and bedrooms it was another story.
I'm a cabinet maker not a bailiff and i hated standing in a customers house demanding money. On a few occasions the company i worked for told me to start to remove the work if the customer started acting up..... its amazing how quickly these people found the money once you called their bluff.
The long and short of it is you are providing a service (and a good one at that) so if people are not prepared to show faith in you by handing over a deposit, why should you show faith in them out of your own pocket.
It sounds harsh i know but not one of my customers has ever had any problem with deposits and it leaves me safe in the knowledge that my materials and some of my time are covered should something happen :daumenhoch:
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It's bad enough them not paying you but when they've not even got the common courtesy of getting on the blower to explain why and you're the one spending time and money doing the job and then chasing them for money... it's a proper wind-up! They're not only taking the pesh out of you Darren but also out of the way this forum/community runs. Get 'em named and then they might just get they're finger out.
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Take pics of the items and work done, send them, them back and them name and shame :daumenhoch:
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That suck's
But I don't get why you would do all the work and then send the stuff out without payment. Yes it can be for the good of RAD and as a "favour" but it's still your business. Take a leaf out of Dan's book and if they don't pay..shoot em....and keep the stuff until they do :daumenhoch:
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Prepare the wicker man.....
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As others have said, there's good nature and there's good nature, I think you've gone above and beyond here. :daumenhoch:
I wouldn't let anything out the door without the final payment in hand. We all know you like to help folk out, and all should know not to take the pee. :police:
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Had it done to me in the past. If you still have the parts, send them a registered letter asking to be paid or said items will be sold to recover costs involved. Only option then is to threaten small claims court but that costs but if it serves a warning...
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Prepare the wicker man.....
That's the way forward ... Burn em!!!
Seriously though.. It's a shame, should at least keep you in the loop and let you know if they've fallen on bad times or circumstances have changed ;)
Then burn em ;)
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name and shame Darren,if i havent got the $$$$$$$$ then i dont buy,if i cant pay instantly then i always explain why,but always pay immediatley when paypal fundage arrives,its not fair to fook people over,not here especially no way :2gunsfiring_v1:
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Crap situation Daz :(
Some people seem to think good nature is something they can take advantage of,like its some sort of weakness :(
Personally i have repaired stuff and sent the odd thing out without getting payment first,but only for people i have dealt with before and know i can trust.
I have also custom made bits and pieces,for people i didnt know,only for them to not get back to me so im stuck with stuff :(
Anyone who does this though is noted and they get fook all in the future :daumenhoch:
If it were me Daz,i would just do jobs for guys I knew well,but thats just me......
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name and shame Darren,if i havent got the $$$$$$$$ then i dont buy,if i cant pay instantly then i always explain why,but always pay immediatley when paypal fundage arrives,its not fair to fook people over,not here especially no way :2gunsfiring_v1:
^ this. If you can't afford to have work done, wait until you can.
Hope the situation resolves itself Daz :daumenhoch:
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TBH i said on the dreaded BOTM thread that the hobby had become full of jealous backstabbing frauds and arse lickers . I was shot down in flames for saying that . Now this is a typical example of my comment . Its a disgrace quite frankly
I remember when i got in to the scene 7 years ago and when you bought/sold anything you would stick so free goodies in the parcel . Stickers , dustcaps , memorabilia whatever .
Those days are well gone :(
Good luck with your issue daz .................. There are some real good people left :daumenhoch: somewhere :police:
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Dunno what to say mate. I've met some really good people from RAD mainly through the riding side of the hobby to be honest. Obviously you have our support and best wishes with this.
Jon
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Common decency is seriously lacking these days in every aspect of life. Give them a deadline to get the cash to you or reasonable explanation then if they're still not forthcoming name and shame, that at the very least will stop it happening to others.
Hope you get it sorted though mate.
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Prepare the wicker man.....
That's the way forward ... Burn em!!!
Seriously though.. It's a shame, should at least keep you in the loop and let you know if they've fallen on bad times or circumstances have changed ;)
Then burn em ;)
I put that post in just for you Poochie dear
;D
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For the record 1 has now paid so there's 3 to go .
Think i should put some right , if i still had the parts etc and they had not paid i won't be too fussed , the fact is i've sent / let them take the bits etc thats why i'm far from happy
Kappy
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You said that BJ was for free Darren.....if I knew I had to pay for it I'd have give it a miss.!! ::)
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Not good at all, well one has come forward and paid, hopefully the others now will.
I'm with the slack jawed Weymouth sun tan lotion rubbing broke back mountain style gay boy on this, basically if i ain't got the £££££'s i don't get the work done.
name and shame Darren,if i havent got the $$$$$$$$ then i dont buy,if i cant pay instantly then i always explain why,but always pay immediatley when paypal fundage arrives,its not fair to fook people over,not here especially no way :2gunsfiring_v1:
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You said that BJ was for free Darren.....if I knew I had to pay for it I'd have give it a miss.!! ::)
::) yeah sorry Steve didn't relise i needed my glasses , time costs as you know trying to find it
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TBH i said on the dreaded BOTM thread that the hobby had become full of jealous backstabbing frauds and arse lickers . I was shot down in flames for saying that . Now this is a typical example of my comment . Its a disgrace quite frankly
I remember when i got in to the scene 7 years ago and when you bought/sold anything you would stick so free goodies in the parcel . Stickers , dustcaps , memorabilia whatever .
Those days are well gone :(
Good luck with your issue daz .................. There are some real good people left :daumenhoch: somewhere :police:
Yeah I remember those days only too well ::)
I only went round to Craig's just to buy a black MX1000 on a Wednesday evening ???
and he made sure I got totally muntered free of charge :buck2: :buck2: :buck2:
An honest good will gesture off course :crazy2: ,
I tell thee ,,, you don't get that customer care at TK Maxx :shocked: :D
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Prepare the wicker man.....
That's the way forward ... Burn em!!!
Seriously though.. It's a shame, should at least keep you in the loop and let you know if they've fallen on bad times or circumstances have changed ;)
Then burn em ;)
I put that post in just for you Poochie dear
;D
I new that lover ;)
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You're not going to like me for saying this, but anyway...
As I see it;
1. Send them a message giving them a deadline to respond. After that, name them, wipe your mouth and move on. Lesson learnt.
2. Don't be surprised if it comes to light that as it appears you're a wealthy man perhaps some people secretly think "it's only kappy, he's not going hungry - fcuk him". Another lesson.
This has happened to me outside of bmx in the past. People have had the misconception that I'm a wealthy fella - christ knows how they arrived at that conclusion - and I've had to read the riot act to them to get what's mine. These were so called friends too.
As someone else has already said, people will haveten mistake kindness for weakness.
In your shoes, I suspect I'd tell them to keep their money and choke on it. Then make sure the whole world and their mother knows those people are no good.
Fcuking kids bike.
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TBH i said on the dreaded BOTM thread that the hobby had become full of jealous backstabbing frauds and arse lickers . I was shot down in flames for saying that . Now this is a typical example of my comment . Its a disgrace quite frankly
I remember when i got in to the scene 7 years ago and when you bought/sold anything you would stick so free goodies in the parcel . Stickers , dustcaps , memorabilia whatever .
Those days are well gone
very true unfortunately :(.
and agree with rob too.
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We didn't have these problems did we Dord?
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Not good Daz. Pm them and say it has to be paid or you will send in the boys :knuppel2: and not the gay boys :LolLolLolLol:
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The whole community isn't fu*ked just because of these 3 people. Lets get some perspective here... I still observe & experience great community spirit & kindness. :daumenhoch:
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I've had something similar happen to me, a what I thought was a friend at my last job came to me one day almost in tears begging me to help him out, I lent him £200, he promised to pay me back in two weeks, almost a year later, I have got £100 back in two payments & every month I contact him & get another sob story & this is a so called friend who I helped out when he was in need, last month, I got "come on it's not like you're going to miss £100, you're going on like I owe you £100,000" >:( after this I will never lend money out again, total Pi$$taker, so I totally understand how you feel Darren & I say fook them, name & shame & in future payment up front :daumenhoch:
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just think this is a lesson learned darren, rads a great place and as you know i probs paint 200 + frames
a year, not all from rad but any one who owes me never gets there frame back untill the money is in paypal
or bank transfere, thats the way it is and it can sit in the corner for a month if that what it takes, just the way
i play it, no money no frame :daumenhoch:
ps... must admit pete quad knocks me all the time but latley i've beat him at his own game, i tell him his frames
done so get paying and i aint even started it :LolLolLolLol:
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Yes, but that's my Hutch you've got :LolLolLolLol:
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Yes, but that's my Hutch you've got :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: he didnt tell me that ;D
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Which reminds me, I must get some stuff to you Dan :daumenhoch:
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It's nothing new, just constantly wait for dan, he's like a fooking happy clapper.... Didnt ya boys show up again dan ? Your lost without em
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Yes, but that's my Hutch you've got :LolLolLolLol:
Lmfao now that's funny, you want my PayPal addy nick ?
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:LolLolLolLol:
twat
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It's nothing new, just constantly wait for dan, he's like a fooking happy clapper.... Didnt ya boys show up again dan ? Your lost without em
tis i who has the skills not my under studies, it's mere mortals like you who test my patience and abuse the
system so now everyone else suffers because of your constant non payments over the years :knuppel2:
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Just get it sorted by the boys, you just make sure you keep stoking the oven and keep the kettle going for them
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Just get it sorted by the boys, you just make sure you keep stoking the oven and keep the kettle going for them
;D :daumenhoch:
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THIS SITE IS FULL OF TOTTALLY RAD PEOPLE WHO I WOULD TRY AND HELP OUIT BEST I CAN
I HAVE GIVEN STUFF AWAY ,,POSTED STUFF FOR NOWT,,HELL EVEN UPSET A FEW MEMBERS WHICH I NOW REGRET,,
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY ,,,I WOULD NOT EXPECT ANYONE TO PAINT/REPAIR ANYTHING IN THERE OWN VALUABLE TIME WITHOUT PAYING THEM IN SOME WAY ,,,AND NO BACK LANE FAVOURS,,,I MEAN HARD CASH
SO SORRY TO HEAR THIS KAPPY AND IF YA GET NO JOI JUST REMEMBER WHO THEY ARE AND DO FOOOOK ALL FOR THEM IN FUTURE
HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND
LOVE N PEACE N ALL THAT XXXX
Pm me your address mr dogg and I'll pop a caps lock key in the post for you
You can have it for nowt :daumenhoch:
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THIS SITE IS FULL OF TOTTALLY RAD PEOPLE WHO I WOULD TRY AND HELP OUIT BEST I CAN
I HAVE GIVEN STUFF AWAY ,,POSTED STUFF FOR NOWT,,HELL EVEN UPSET A FEW MEMBERS WHICH I NOW REGRET,,
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY ,,,I WOULD NOT EXPECT ANYONE TO PAINT/REPAIR ANYTHING IN THERE OWN VALUABLE TIME WITHOUT PAYING THEM IN SOME WAY ,,,AND NO BACK LANE FAVOURS,,,I MEAN HARD CASH
SO SORRY TO HEAR THIS KAPPY AND IF YA GET NO JOI JUST REMEMBER WHO THEY ARE AND DO FOOOOK ALL FOR THEM IN FUTURE
HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND
LOVE N PEACE N ALL THAT XXXX
Pm me your address mr dogg and I'll pop a caps lock key in the post for you
You can have it for nowt :daumenhoch:
:LolLolLolLol:
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THIS SITE IS FULL OF TOTTALLY RAD PEOPLE WHO I WOULD TRY AND HELP OUIT BEST I CAN
I HAVE GIVEN STUFF AWAY ,,POSTED STUFF FOR NOWT,,HELL EVEN UPSET A FEW MEMBERS WHICH I NOW REGRET,,
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY ,,,I WOULD NOT EXPECT ANYONE TO PAINT/REPAIR ANYTHING IN THERE OWN VALUABLE TIME WITHOUT PAYING THEM IN SOME WAY ,,,AND NO BACK LANE FAVOURS,,,I MEAN HARD CASH
SO SORRY TO HEAR THIS KAPPY AND IF YA GET NO JOI JUST REMEMBER WHO THEY ARE AND DO FOOOOK ALL FOR THEM IN FUTURE
HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND
LOVE N PEACE N ALL THAT XXXX
Pm me your address mr dogg and I'll pop a caps lock key in the post for you
You can have it for nowt :daumenhoch:
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: fookin funny that!
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Sucks to hear that Darren,
Can't understand folk like that, as you well know i'm pretty much an up front fella and if somethings going to go down that effects the people I'm dealing with they're the first to know.
To whoever on here that's fecking kappy about, pay up and stop being a male chicken :2gunsfiring_v1:
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THIS SITE IS FULL OF TOTTALLY RAD PEOPLE WHO I WOULD TRY AND HELP OUIT BEST I CAN
I HAVE GIVEN STUFF AWAY ,,POSTED STUFF FOR NOWT,,HELL EVEN UPSET A FEW MEMBERS WHICH I NOW REGRET,,
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY ,,,I WOULD NOT EXPECT ANYONE TO PAINT/REPAIR ANYTHING IN THERE OWN VALUABLE TIME WITHOUT PAYING THEM IN SOME WAY ,,,AND NO BACK LANE FAVOURS,,,I MEAN HARD CASH
SO SORRY TO HEAR THIS KAPPY AND IF YA GET NO JOI JUST REMEMBER WHO THEY ARE AND DO FOOOOK ALL FOR THEM IN FUTURE
HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND
LOVE N PEACE N ALL THAT XXXX
Pm me your address mr dogg and I'll pop a caps lock key in the post for you
You can have it for nowt :daumenhoch:
;D ;D
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To me Darren, this is just a thread to let people know how ACE you are.
If you're gonna do work for someone you don't know, then accept the hit.
It's wrong, but there are CNUTS about that don't care, so learn from it.
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My biggest failure in business was trusting people too much, still is to a certain degree, ' treat people as you like to be treated yourself' and all that b@llocks......it's a hard lesson in life , but the bottom line is, no matter what you do ,there will always be chancers & someone will always try and fook you over!
I'm sure you'll sort it Daz ;) just name the pricks ;)
Just one more thing ...... If anyone's in Munich .... I'll give you Fred the pedestrians address.... Go kick his nuts for me :LolLolLolLol:
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just name the pricks ;)
best thing anyones said.........just name them or else this thread is a complete waste of time :daumenhoch:
How long have you been waiting? weeks? months? personally i never like to owe anyone money, ive bought a few things off mates who have shipped or given me the items and agreed to pay them at the end of the month (payday) and as soon as that day comes the money is paypal'd over. shyte thing for anyone to do is to break that trust you've given Daz.
I say PM the guys and give them till the end of the day or you out them and we all know they're not to be trusted :daumenhoch:
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This site has some of the best public hanging's I've been to :4_17_5:
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Name and shame em......unless its me
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Ey oop boys, it's me kappy , I'm using marks username.... It's time to put an end to this......
THE PEOPLE OWING ME ARE
ROB PICKLE & PETE QUAD
THAT'S THE LAST BURNER FRAMES I PAINT FOR YOU TWO!
SOUTHERN SHANDY DRINKING BASTARDS ;D
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Time to lock the thread , they've been given a dead line so the balls in their court , in future things will be done as in my business no cash no goods etc , sorry if this upsets the good guys but the few have fooked it for the many .
Cheers guys , Kappy