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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: martylaa on October 13, 2012, 06:12 PM
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I see the prices on bits and I ask myself who can afford to build Oldschool bmx builds anymore, saw a ESP stem sell for almost $1000 recently!
What do you think? Can you build a bike from bitd with today's prices and rarity of the parts?
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you can if you don't need it built within a week.
patience is the name of the game nowadays i think.
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I have sparred in length with someone about this, and we are just sat on the fence at the moment ::) ;)
IMO, the price of parts going up is good for those that have them and want to sell at huge profits. That is, if there are any takers. It's nice to have a bike that's worth, say, £4000 but, only if you will ever sell it or, someone wants to buy. The big boys will always buy the most sought after stuff for their collection, but that's just it, a collection.
I like to ride mine so I tend now to go for the good survivor parts. No point ruining NOS stuff.
Just build how you want to. Some will say that it's not era correct, some will say that the parts are pants. Who cares. You build for yourself :daumenhoch:
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you can if you don't need it built within a week.
patience is the name of the game nowadays i think.
Dordy, I will be dead waiting for some of your builds to come along :D ;D
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No, there's still plenty out there but as said, you just have to be patient and do some research if you're looking for a particular part.
It's all still there for the taking but no, most of it is not cheap unless you get lucky on the Bay.
Adam
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It's still on, and some good bargains about if your willing to wait
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Far from it IMO even though Cook stems have been fetching $2500 recently there are plenty of serious bargains and most away from ebay. Like other have said if your prepared to wait you'll get a deal, the vintage scene is getting stronger all the time but the parts are much harder to source. Makes the hunt more fun though.
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not this same old thread again!! NO NO NO NO NO NOT EVER!!!
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It is what it is. Get on with it... or don't bother.
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For me it has, Ive been priced right out of the oldschool scene, mid school is where its at for me now
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It is what it is. Get on with it... or don't bother.
:4_17_5:
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It is what it is. Get on with it... or don't bother.
:4_17_5: :LolLolLolLol:
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I see the prices on bits and I ask myself who can afford to build Oldschool bmx builds anymore, saw a ESP stem sell for almost $1000 recently!
What do you think? Can you build a bike from bitd with today's prices and rarity of the parts?
Patterson cruiser bars.... :police:
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Yawn
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The king is dead............long live the king :daumenhoch:
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The king is dead............long live the king :daumenhoch:
Jimmy....?
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The king is dead............long live the king :daumenhoch:
Jimmy....?
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It is what it is. Get on with it... or don't bother.
This...!
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i would say not , you can build a bike to whatever your budget there was a really nice burner on here the other week for under 300 and it was nice , then you can go the other way , you've had some top of the line bikes you had a top spec hutch pro star with aerospeeds etc didn't you marty a bit back correct me if i'm wrong which even when you had it the parts added up to thousands of pounds so not much different to now i'd say i got a cracking 1979 nickel mongoose motomag complete with steel skyways for 350 quid and its one of my faves and i also bought just some forks for 350 quid, it just depends what you want and to what level you want to collect to me at this time it seems the top level stuff sells easy and fetches good money , cheap stuff sells because its cheap but the "alright" stuff noones jumping in take scorcher micks ripper a bit back that wouldn't be on here for sale for 5 mins , but it sat about till he knocked it down and the buyer got a bargain
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we could call them ''Antique's"
antique |anˈtēk|
noun
a collectible object such as a piece of furniture or work of art that has a high value because of its considerable age:
>:D
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you can if you don't need it built within a week.
patience is the name of the game nowadays i think.
I Concurr
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Peaks and troughs continuing.
To many twats out for few cheap bucks, but has always been thst way, and will continue.
Then there s the bmx glitterati, who think they own the hobby
They are twats too.
Al about respect for your fellow hobbyist.
Some thing that's sadly lacking.
People will always build nice bikes though, so in that respect, everything is ok!
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Peaks and troughs continuing.
To many twats out for few cheap bucks, but has always been thst way, and will continue.
Then there s the bmx glitterati, who think they own the hobby
They are twats too.
Al about respect for your fellow hobbyist.
Some thing that's sadly lacking.
Agree with all of that ! Perfect JT
People will always build nice bikes though, so in that respect, everything is ok!
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Just check "botm" to see that it's alive and kicking ... As mentioned before patience .
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a bargain to be had if your prepared to wait :-\ for fooks sake we'll all be on zimmers soon :2funny:
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It is what it is. Get on with it... or don't bother.
;) ^^^^^^^^
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Having been mainly into burners for the last few years Ive seen prices change from month to month.
The gage for me is SR stems, 6 months ago you could pick one up for £15. Now there going for £35. And I've seen them at " buy it now" for £50 :uglystupid2:
Personally (jaymz ;)) it's not going to move on from old school for me. Because the 80,s is where the nostalgia is :daumenhoch:
43 going on 13 again :LolLolLolLol:
P.s. I'm loving the old school rides too.
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who see the white dominator seat with blue lettering go on ebay for £345 the other day :shocked: at them sort of prices only the rich and famous will be able to build their dream bikes :-[
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the arse end will fall out of old school prices in the next 10 years, theres a lot of middle aged crisis ex bmxers buying at mo by the looks, the crisis is usually over by the time they become 50 n the next phase of 40 year olds start buying up their youth bikes, early 90's onwards. The big bucks paid for builds now will never be recouped, funny as fook i think :LolLolLolLol:
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I have to say that prices are on the up again, but i see no evidence of the bikes crossing the divide from old school bmxers to non or younger bmxers and as such the hobby will have a shelf life.
BUT
objects of desire have a habit of being collectible through the ages . We will see
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Surely the last Mk was enough evidence that the scene's thriving still ???
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The hobby is definitely not dead....
There will always be those that see ot as a fad, or want to make a quick buck, they cpme and go, the hardcpre collectors will always be around come rain or shine,
Prices are high for some parts right now, some parts and framesets are not coming up, but have patience and you will overcome,
I am in the process of building two old schoolers, first for 3 years, .. Iam enjoying the chase for parts, it may take me another couple of years, but i will get there in the end, ... The best builds are like a fine wine, they take time to mature
There are more collectors than ever, hence supply and demand will push prices up... Unless you know where to look
One final word,... Everyone has their own grail, and builds what they desire, respect others.., if you like someones build, give +++ feedback, if you dont like it, dont comment, lets not slag each other off, just cos they dont build what you like... Be boring if we all liked the same bikes
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A few bits I have sold recently have gone to collectors who never had or did Bmx bitd, they have only starting collecting for the sake of collecting, old school bikes ain't just for old school bmxers
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Surely the last Mk was enough evidence that the scene's thriving still ???
damn right, the bikes on show at MK were unbelievable, ive got no room at the moment for any new builds so just messing with the ones Ive got, its had its day for some..not for others
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Not that I went though
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One final word,... Everyone has their own grail, and builds what they desire, respect others.., if you like someones build, give +++ feedback, if you dont like it, dont comment, lets not slag each other off, just cos they dont build what you like... Be boring if we all liked the same bikes
Top comment, my Mum always said "If you have nothing good to say, say nothing".
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I'm building again. I've got most of what I need, just seat and grips, oh and decals needed. Prices are reaching a crescendo that will leave quite a few out of pocket before long. Buy bits you want because you like em, buying the most expensive bits to impress others isn't what old school Bmx is about, it's just a bit sad. :(
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A few bits I have sold recently have gone to collectors who never had or did Bmx bitd, they have only starting collecting for the sake of collecting, old school bikes ain't just for old school bmxers
And they're the w4nkers that are pushing prices up, they're in it as an investment and not for the love :tickedoff:
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My Mum always said "If you have nothing good to say, say it really loud with vehemence & violence".
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Definately life in the old dog yet, but like some others have said, I think it has a finite life which will catch some people out when it goes. Personally I think it's getting harder to build something nice within a sensible budget, even some of the prices posted on here recently are off the charts. For example, I saw something yesterday at £170 posted, when I know you can buy new from a shop for £60 :idiot2:
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Definately life in the old dog yet, but like some others have said, I think it has a finite life which will catch some people out when it goes. Personally I think it's getting harder to build something nice within a sensible budget, even some of the prices posted on here recently are off the charts. For example, I saw something yesterday at £170 posted, when I know you can buy new from a shop for £60 :idiot2:
Blimey what was that mark?
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I won't slag off the guys prices in public Dave, he can choose to try and sell for whatever he wants....
But I'll let you know ;)
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The hobby is definitely not dead....
There will always be those that see ot as a fad, or want to make a quick buck, they cpme and go, the hardcpre collectors will always be around come rain or shine,
Prices are high for some parts right now, some parts and framesets are not coming up, but have patience and you will overcome,
I am in the process of building two old schoolers, first for 3 years, .. Iam enjoying the chase for parts, it may take me another couple of years, but i will get there in the end, ... The best builds are like a fine wine, they take time to mature
There are more collectors than ever, hence supply and demand will push prices up... Unless you know where to look
One final word,... Everyone has their own grail, and builds what they desire, respect others.., if you like someones build, give +++ feedback, if you dont like it, dont comment, lets not slag each other off, just cos they dont build what you like... Be boring if we all liked the same bikes
bang on, patience keeps prices affordable :daumenhoch:
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I'm still refining bikes i started building 12 years ago. As said it's all about patience. Best part of the hobby is looking out for that bit you really want and always better at a nice price. You think that they will never come up, but usually they do! Starting and finishing a project in a week, will just leave you completely bored with collecting........having said that anyone wanna buy a 91 sport for silly money????? :D
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am i correct in saying everything was more expensive 5 or 10 years ago than it is now..?
i dont know what the big deal is really..
Old school BMX is an extravagant and expensive hobby like collecting vintage cars..!
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One final word,... Everyone has their own grail, and builds what they desire, respect others.., if you like someones build, give +++ feedback, if you dont like it, dont comment, lets not slag each other off, just cos they dont build what you like... Be boring if we all liked the same bikes
Top comment, my Mum always said "If you have nothing good to say, say nothing".
If you say nothing it will look like everyone does like the same boring bikes... which of course we don't.
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Plenty of life left in it yet :D I say at MK every year thats it no more ::) then off I go again :2funny:
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One final word,... Everyone has their own grail, and builds what they desire, respect others.., if you like someones build, give +++ feedback, if you dont like it, dont comment, lets not slag each other off, just cos they dont build what you like... Be boring if we all liked the same bikes
Top comment, my Mum always said "If you have nothing good to say, say nothing".
If you say nothing it will look like everyone does like the same boring bikes... which of course we don't.
Not really, it is just that bikes I like I say so, bikes I think are w@nk I keep quiet. :LolLolLolLol:
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Not really, it is just that bikes I like I say so, bikes I think are w@nk I keep quiet.
Now I know why nobody says anything about yours! :D ;)
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I personally couldn't give a toss if the arse fell out of it tomorrow. Bought my bikes for me and to keep. :) just enjoy it
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I personally couldn't give a toss if the arse fell out of it tomorrow. Bought my bikes for me and to keep. :) just enjoy it
thats harsh
i personally hope that kappy stays around lol
:)
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I personally couldn't give a toss if the arse fell out of it tomorrow. Bought my bikes for me and to keep. :) just enjoy it
thats harsh
i personally hope that kappy stays around lol
:)
:LolLolLolLol: does come across as a bit harsh.
Who's Kappy :LolLolLolLol:
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parts have defo got more expensive thats for sure. anyone new to the scean is gona be paying a lot more per build than say someone who started 5 years ago. in my opinion there are 3 classes/types of builders.
1 = those who have a brand or style of bmx they like, they build their bikes spot on era correct , have the knowledge to back the builds up . id say there not in it for the money and will keep their builds no matter what happens.
2 = people who build bikes from parts they can afford , have a budget and just enjoy bmx for how they see it. not over fussed if the parts are 100 per cent correct but have a genuine love for the bmx scean
3 = people who buy ,sell , have a collection or maybe just the odd few builds. i think its these people who will drop of the scean first coz parts can only get so expensive and when there no more quick dollars to be made their interest will move onto something else.
of course sometimes life can give you a knock and sadly we see people that have no choice but to sell up and some times at aloss. thats gives someone a bargain that kick starts new builds. But to me as long as you build bikes you like /want and you enjoy it then why worry about when its gona end?
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I personally couldn't give a toss if the arse fell out of it tomorrow. Bought my bikes for me and to keep. :) just enjoy it
thats harsh
i personally hope that kappy stays around lol
:)
:LolLolLolLol: does come across as a bit harsh.
Who's Kappy :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/hh135/Badbaldie/kappytoysoutthepram_zpsec87a35d.jpg)
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I personally couldn't give a toss if the arse fell out of it tomorrow. Bought my bikes for me and to keep. :) just enjoy it
thats harsh
i personally hope that kappy stays around lol
:)
:LolLolLolLol: does come across as a bit harsh.
Who's Kappy :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/hh135/Badbaldie/kappytoysoutthepram_zpsec87a35d.jpg)
what nos krisps and pop lenny?
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milk and sweets these days Dave . :LolLolLolLol: i will have to modify this pic :2funny:
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As someone relatively new to the scene ( about 14 months now ) I have to say its a steep learning curve. In saying that its bloody addictive as we all know.
Am I jealous of those who got into it early...HELL YES ! The money I've spent on my 3 builds probably could have got me 12 bikes back then :'(
For my first build (85 Haro Master) I was a bit of a sucka...I paid over the odds on ebay/Biagio for nos parts at first but as time goes on you wise up and you get to meet many good guys who are willing to help and give you stuff at fair prices (Mark at RetrospectBMX is a real star, some American collector contacts I met through ebay and an amazing UK collector (not on any forums but he has a holy of holies in his loft with over 100 perfect nos bikes and multiple copies of nearly every nos part ever produced).
I have to say I've loved every minute of it :smitten:
The parts I paid top dollar for seem to be selling now for at least half as much again even in this short amount of time so I don't feel so dumb.
The main problem as I see it is that the premium NOS parts are getting scarcer and scarcer which means that factory spec/tribute bikes are getting harder and harder to complete.
I do find it crazy that as a grown man in my 40s that I still can't afford to have my real dream bikes (a gen 1 Haro replica/Eddie Fiola GT/ Woody Itson Hutch ) but that's life I guess.
We've all got to have dreams....I'd love a Ferrari but my Alfa Romeo is pretty knarley so I can't grumble.... and so it is with BMX....
My latest build is going to be my first rider and I can't wait until it's finished. I'm being patient and sensible and you guys here are helping a bundle but it is all about compromises.
I'd love NOS graphite tuffs and Vector Bars but For the £1500 they would cost I can alternatively make 2 pretty nice riders with used and repop parts.
Is that a crime ? I guess 5 years ago it definiely would have been seen as a sin and lazy but to us newbies we don't really have much choice. Am I stupid enough to go for a ride on my Nos £200 tyres and £200 pedals...hells no!
For every :Aresehole: at MK12( "my gen 1 is better than your gen 1 --you know who you are !! :2gunsfiring_v1:) there were a 300 people who love this shit to the point of autism and are willing to spread the love (and old parts).
It's the spirit of this site that is the only that will keep this thing alive...... we've all got to genuinely fook ebay because ultimately that will destroy the thing that we all love :rant:
Jeesus where the fook did all that come from ?????
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I personally couldn't give a toss if the arse fell out of it tomorrow. Bought my bikes for me and to keep. :) just enjoy it
thats harsh
i personally hope that kappy stays around lol
:)
looks like Megsy is running low on his happy pills again pmsl
Dont worry Dave im going nowhere lol besides ive just added another 2 bikes to the Kappy collection today ;)