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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: dordymush on November 18, 2012, 09:10 PM

Title: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 18, 2012, 09:10 PM
right then the mad man from LLP our lenny gave me one of his ole frames last night to restore.
many thanks len.another one to the collection  :4_17_5:
now len loves his back wheel slammed so cut the end off the rear tube the loon  ;D.
can anybody get me a measurement of the said tube and where about the hole was in the end as its been 10mm drilled for a boa brake.
i know there were a few on here.a measurment would be cool if anybody has 5 mins to check it for me  :)
heres the bit missing modified by our lenny  :LolLolLolLol:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v229/dordymush/PIC_0020-2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v229/dordymush/PIC_0019-2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v229/dordymush/PIC_0021-1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v229/dordymush/PIC_0025-2.jpg)
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: Betty on November 18, 2012, 10:58 PM
Can't help with the measurement Dave, is it a 1" Challenger?

Is that challenger stem for sale?
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 18, 2012, 11:03 PM
no mark its one of the first 1/18th ones i think.
think its a 95 ?.
need to check so i can order stickers ready for it.

i was gonna use the challenger stem on this build mark as every other bike i got has a redneck on it.
if i dont use it mucka i'll give ya a shout  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: Badbaldie on November 18, 2012, 11:17 PM
Dave whats that tiny bmx lurking in the back ground.  post up a better  pic mate lets see  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 19, 2012, 12:13 AM
lol my old man bought it for me ages ago.
i can remember them being in bmx action bike bitd.
its pedals the wheel round . brakes work as well lol.look like oakley cobra grips on it lol.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v229/dordymush/DSCN1775.jpg)
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: bobbbbsy on November 19, 2012, 12:15 AM
you turned down my old marlboro for this type of thing ! tut tut  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 19, 2012, 12:18 AM
lol i think this would last longer  ;D
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: SaMAlex on November 19, 2012, 09:34 AM
Mmmmmm. That is my fav rear end on any of the Challengers. The canti cable stop mounted on the wishbone  :smitten:

Here's one I got for a mate a few years ago. Im pretty sure he still has it.


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Bikes/challenger1-1.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Bikes/challenger2-1.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Bikes/challenger3-1.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Bikes/SMSet2.jpg)
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 19, 2012, 12:08 PM
im gonna take it with me today to see steve animal to try and get it repaired.
no way you could get him to drop a tape on it for me is there alex  :)

they must be the right stickers for it too.
i bet del dont have them fookers  :(.
i seen one on the museum with the yellow ones on it with like the tape measure sticker on the top tube. did they use them on these too as i think del has them.
not doing well with stickers for these bloody frames  ;D
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: SaMAlex on November 19, 2012, 12:23 PM

I dont see the dude very often but I can try for ya. Might take a while, he aint often in the UK  :-\



I think Del has these stickers. He made the same ones for my 1997 24" challenger.
(Mine doesnt have the cable stop on the wishbone, its got an inner guide going round the seat clamp  :yahoo_silent:)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Bikes/Challengerdecals2.jpg)
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 19, 2012, 03:56 PM
i'll try a few names that have posted pictures up of em as well to see if i can get a measurement.
bonus if dels got the proper sticker  :daumenhoch:
i'll pm him now.
cheers alex.
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: kev-s on November 19, 2012, 04:34 PM
just measured my mk1 and from the seatube to the end of the brake mount tube is 5 and a half inches and the brake hole is 5mm from the end of the tube :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 19, 2012, 05:06 PM
cheers kev  :4_17_5:.
i'll get that written down and get steve on the job for me  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: kev-s on November 19, 2012, 06:34 PM
get a couple of other challenger owners to double check, as there maybe a difference in length on different/later versions :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 19, 2012, 07:24 PM
will do.
just made a paper template to push in the hole and that size looks about right.
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 19, 2012, 07:30 PM
Got some black beringer bars here Dave £35 posted  :daumenhoch:


Dingo
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: nosepickben on November 19, 2012, 08:56 PM
Beringers for sale eh..   ???
Are they cut down? If so how wide are they?.
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 19, 2012, 09:17 PM
get em bought ben.
im ok for bars  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: Dingobmxer on November 19, 2012, 09:20 PM
sorry for the hijack Dave

dont think they are cut down as they are about 27 & 1/2-28" wide

dingo
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: LENNY-LENTINI on November 20, 2012, 11:17 AM
Nice one Dords

Stripped down and ready for welding already.

I knew I'd sent it to right new owner

Good luck with the build Brother.

Keep the Hacksaw. L
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 20, 2012, 01:21 PM
off to steves tomorrow our len for him to work his metal magic  8).
thanks again man.
just trying to think what colour to paint it when it comes back.
dark blue maybe ?.
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: Dannywhac on November 20, 2012, 01:33 PM
Always been partial to a bit of earlier S&M colours - Forest Green or that Light Blue they did:

The blue:
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/11556#.UKuGTYb4Gf0

Forest green:
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/Holmes1.jpg)
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 20, 2012, 01:58 PM
that blues winning at the minute.
like that  8)
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: SaMAlex on November 20, 2012, 02:12 PM
Im not sure the challenger came in the Blue  ???

It defo came in Red, Chrome and Yellow but I dont think Ive ever seen a blue one.



(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/shaunbutleradd.jpg)
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: SaMAlex on November 20, 2012, 02:12 PM
Oh, hang on ..... Ive GOT a blue one!!! DOH!  :crazy2:




(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Bikes/Challenger1-3.jpg)
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 20, 2012, 02:39 PM
this was yellow.
thought it might have been powdered but must has been the proper colour.
might have to do it back yella then.
different stickers again on that one  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: SaMAlex on November 20, 2012, 09:26 PM
different stickers again on that one  :uglystupid2:


On my Blue one? Its a much later Challenger, maybe the last design.
It doesn't have a seat-stay wish bone, just straight stays, and its got a big chain-stay/BB wishbone.
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: teamsano on November 20, 2012, 09:59 PM
Oh, hang on ..... Ive GOT a blue one!!! DOH!  :crazy2:

hahaha, as you do!
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: SaMAlex on November 21, 2012, 09:26 AM
Yeah, I think my mind was focused on the seat-stay wishbone Challengers, of which I have not seen a blue one.
And I was so busy thinking of that photo of Shaun Butler I forgot about the later style of challenger ;)
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: dordymush on November 23, 2012, 11:45 AM
no on that one in the advert.
different set of stickers to the ones on your cruiser  :D
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: SaMAlex on November 23, 2012, 01:20 PM
no on that one in the advert.
different set of stickers to the ones on your cruiser  :D


I think the ones in the Advert are 1" Mk1 Challengers. They dont look like they have brake mounts on them.
They are the chequered flag decals that are on early challengers.



i seen one on the museum with the yellow ones on it with like the tape measure sticker on the top tube. did they use them on these too as i think del has them.
not doing well with stickers for these bloody frames  ;D

I dont think there was a tape measure Challenger decal set. There was a Holmes tape measure.
The chequered flag decals had a gear chart sticker on the top tube. That might be what you mean?
Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: SaMAlex on November 23, 2012, 01:25 PM
Challenger chequered flag decals  :daumenhoch:


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/stickers/challenger-smalledit.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/Bikes/chall4.jpg)


Title: Re: CHALLENGER HELP NEEDED.
Post by: LENNY-LENTINI on November 23, 2012, 05:22 PM
Don't worry Dords

Never far from a tape measure when i'm around.

Measure the faith. L
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