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Title: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 06, 2012, 04:59 PM
Now as some of you know i am fortunate enough to have what is belived to be the only known surviving ACE racing frame and forks  :) now the idea was to build it as a Cav Strutt replica but i have realised i have a slight problem..... in the picture i have of Cav riding an ACE he is not using the forks that were later sold with the frames, trouble is i dont know what he is using !! so this is where i want some help, can anyone identify the forks on Cav's bike ?
even better, does anyone have any contact details for Cav?

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/113450c0cc26c5e2e.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/113450c0cb956d703.jpg)
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: meticulous on December 06, 2012, 05:38 PM
think your gona struggle there andy with that picture anyhow,  could be any number of forks,  do you not have other pictures?
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 06, 2012, 05:46 PM
thats the best pic i have sam, everything else is distant stuff and black and white aswell !! take a look here and see if you can make anything out....


http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=61968.0
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: CD17 on December 06, 2012, 06:55 PM
What year was it from  ??? that will narrow it down a bit, my 1st guess would be GT, but the bend looks to rounded, so maybe Robinson  :-\
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 06, 2012, 07:04 PM
What year was it from  ??? that will narrow it down a bit, my 1st guess would be GT, but the bend looks to rounded, so maybe Robinson  :-\

81 mate  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: meticulous on December 06, 2012, 07:05 PM
defo not robbo forks,  robbo forks have much rounder shoulders,  what about some sort of tange?   ???

it will be all guess work unless somebody definately knows...   :-\
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: meticulous on December 06, 2012, 07:07 PM
the frame looks very robinson though...   ???
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 06, 2012, 07:09 PM
the frame looks very robinson though...   ???

it was based on a cook bros sam, the rear end is almost identical  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: Peter J on December 06, 2012, 07:19 PM
Look a bit Hutch

But the bottom on the fork legs looks flat cut

Its just the location of the plate at the bottom of the legs looks in the same position


Or Patty

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=272806
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: dan-dare on December 06, 2012, 07:26 PM
mongoose
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 06, 2012, 07:26 PM
Look a bit Hutch

But the bottom on the fork legs looks flat cut

Its just the location of the plate at the bottom of the legs looks in the same position


Or Patty

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=272806


not patty as the dropouts are below the main part of the leg and the wrong shape for hutch  :-\
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 06, 2012, 07:27 PM
mongoose

if you mean supergoose then i would say the legs look to fat for that  :-\
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: Peter J on December 06, 2012, 07:30 PM
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=116143.0

 :-\
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 06, 2012, 07:37 PM
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=116143.0

 :-\

i think they were too late tbh as i dont remember them being around in 81 but closer in looks mate  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: RATTY on December 06, 2012, 07:51 PM
Richard Barrington had the frames built in the far East, I remember them being wall to wall in the shop when they arrived. I would think that someone like Akisu would have been the builder, so it would make sense that they were Akisu forks. Possibly slightly different, depending on the spec at the time.
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: oldschoolace on December 06, 2012, 08:06 PM
Cant help on the forks but if you are stuck for the bars and dont mind copies the rapid transit bars may do the trick

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Als-Rapid-Transit-Cook-CBR-Style-BMX-Bars-Handlebars-CHROME-Plated-Knurled-/261090547770?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cca35983a
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 06, 2012, 08:12 PM
Cant help on the forks but if you are stuck for the bars and dont mind copies the rapid transit bars may do the trick

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Als-Rapid-Transit-Cook-CBR-Style-BMX-Bars-Handlebars-CHROME-Plated-Knurled-/261090547770?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cca35983a

thanks but i have some cook bros bars  :)
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: dp and Chopper Dude on December 06, 2012, 08:15 PM
The look a bit like the ones on this 78 team Rampar?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v108/coastvl/bike%20bits/forks.jpg)
I found them on this thread: http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=68.msg1526619;boardseen#new (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=68.msg1526619;boardseen#new) If it's any help??
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 06, 2012, 08:48 PM
Richard Barrington had the frames built in the far East, I remember them being wall to wall in the shop when they arrived. I would think that someone like Akisu would have been the builder, so it would make sense that they were Akisu forks. Possibly slightly different, depending on the spec at the time.

are you sure about where they were built tone ? only reason i say that is that they are brazzed not welded ?
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: RATTY on December 06, 2012, 09:00 PM
Im not sure Andy, but Richard would have got them built by someone like that. The exchange rate to the US back then was really bad, so Im sure it wasnt a US firm, very likely a far east set up.
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 06, 2012, 10:04 PM
Im not sure Andy, but Richard would have got them built by someone like that. The exchange rate to the US back then was really bad, so Im sure it wasnt a US firm, very likely a far east set up.

ok mate.. i just thought they were UK built....................
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: Andy68 on December 07, 2012, 02:06 PM
I'm prob wrong but here goes anyway....... I'm sure I've some early pics somewhere of a young Pete Middleton riding for Ace. Would it have been the same model??
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 07, 2012, 03:08 PM
I'm prob wrong but here goes anyway....... I'm sure I've some early pics somewhere of a young Pete Middleton riding for Ace. Would it have been the same model??

pete was probably on a goose but i would interested to see them all the same  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: Andy68 on December 07, 2012, 03:12 PM
I'll have a dig round this weekend for ya.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 07, 2012, 03:15 PM
I'll have a dig round this weekend for ya.  :daumenhoch:

nice one  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: Andy68 on December 07, 2012, 03:16 PM
No bike with this one, this was in my photobucket.............................

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ii49/Paz68/024-1.jpg)
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: MartyC on December 08, 2012, 11:22 PM
Im not sure Andy, but Richard would have got them built by someone like that. The exchange rate to the US back then was really bad, so Im sure it wasnt a US firm, very likely a far east set up.

ok mate.. i just thought they were UK built....................

Pretty sure they were built in the UK, looking at those forks again they could be early Tange ones, can't think of the model something like TX Super....
(http://www.mick.waza.net/pics/Tange-forks.jpg)
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on December 09, 2012, 12:42 AM
forks third down in picture are not tange - they are kosumi with baseball stamp

Marty are these your forks in the picture ? i'm looking for a set of the thrid down one's  ??? lmk mate  ;)
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: MartyC on December 09, 2012, 01:15 AM
forks third down in picture are not tange - they are kosumi with baseball stamp

Marty are these your forks in the picture ? i'm looking for a set of the thrid down one's  ??? lmk mate  ;)

Sorry not mine, I lifted the pic from Volcano (Mick Ryan) over on Ozbmx!

Cav's dropout extends beyond the forkleg so the TX Super would be one candidate and TRX another but the legs look round so maybe not those and I can't remember what the Cook Bros forks look like!
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 09, 2012, 08:35 PM
cook bros forks have the drop out up the leg like tx 1200 or tx 500  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: gossa on December 10, 2012, 09:32 PM
I'm friends with Pete on fb if you want me to ask him anything?
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: 58 delray on December 11, 2012, 09:46 AM
I'm friends with Pete on fb if you want me to ask him anything?

cheers clive, any old pics from his time at ACE would be cool
Title: Re: ACE racing frame and forks
Post by: kungfunky on December 11, 2012, 09:48 PM
Hmmm Decoster's ?  :-\
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