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Title: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: BMX1973 on December 14, 2012, 04:40 PM
Can someone put up a link for a crank removal tool for redline and peregrine 3 piece cranks.

Been having a look on ebay but some don't say what cranks they remove!  :-\

Thanks in advance  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks?
Post by: bof on December 14, 2012, 06:48 PM
You should not need a tool to remove these cranks, if you undo the pinch bolt , this should loosen the cranks grip on the spindle allowing them to be removed without a great deal of force, hope that makes sense
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks?
Post by: Jon The Bassist on December 14, 2012, 06:55 PM
If you're having trouble just let me ride them for a bit - I can make any 3 piece crank disassemble :crazy2:
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks?
Post by: stidds on December 14, 2012, 06:56 PM
Here you go all the perfect crank removal tools  :LolLolLolLol:....


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/64254175-L.jpg)

Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks?
Post by: BMX1973 on December 14, 2012, 07:24 PM
I've never removed a 3 piece before and not tried it on mine yet.

Once I removed the arms, I thought I needed one of these tools to remove shaft bit inside bottom bracket  :-\.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300774839971'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Also how do you remove bearings, is it the same one as you remove one piece bearing cups.
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks?
Post by: Jon The Bassist on December 14, 2012, 07:31 PM
I've never removed a 3 piece before and not tried it on mine yet.

Once I removed the arms, I thought I needed one of these tools to remove shaft bit inside bottom bracket  :-\.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300774839971'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Also how do you remove bearings, is it the same one as you remove one piece bearing cups.

The crank extractor is only for cranks that use a square taper (or similar) axle and have no pinch bolt. Bit of wood and mallet hammer also used to tap out bearing cups and the bearings themselves from the cups.
Post a picture up if you're unsure :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks?
Post by: Mdbh on December 14, 2012, 07:32 PM
Screw driver+rubber mallet is the only tools you need;)
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks?
Post by: BMX1973 on December 14, 2012, 07:50 PM
Thanks for advice chaps I'll have to get frame out and have a look.

Yes I dont think the cranks were the pinch type, so would the tool below work?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300774839971'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I'll post some pics if I get stuck.

I've never removed a 3 piece before and not tried it on mine yet.

Once I removed the arms, I thought I needed one of these tools to remove shaft bit inside bottom bracket  :-\.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300774839971'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Also how do you remove bearings, is it the same one as you remove one piece bearing cups.

The crank extractor is only for cranks that use a square taper (or similar) axle and have no pinch bolt. Bit of wood and mallet hammer also used to tap out bearing cups and the bearings themselves from the cups.
Post a picture up if you're unsure :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks?
Post by: BMX1973 on December 18, 2012, 04:53 PM
Heres a pic chaps.

1) I've removed the nut and washer off the crank arm.

2) How do I remove the crank arms (as you can see its not the bolt type on arms, like a spline inside)?  :-\ Is it just a hammer, a block of wood against the arm and tap it off?  :-\

3) Then how do I remove the bottom bracket?  :-\

I know it may seem easy questions, but I've never dealt with 3 piece cranks before, as I only ever used 1 piece.  :-[

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ad289/AREA51ROSWELL/IMGP4966_zps55299958.jpg)
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on December 18, 2012, 04:57 PM
Is there a thread inside the end of the arm for a puller tool? If not then one of these should work.
http://www.customriders.co.uk/prodshow.asp?prodid=7975&cat=0&parent=0&sid=3
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Betty on December 18, 2012, 06:14 PM
Socket set extension bar against the spindle and hammer :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: BMX1973 on December 18, 2012, 06:17 PM
Will this work on my crank arm off?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cycling-Bike-Bicycle-Crank-Puller-Extractor-Remover-Wrench-Handle-Repair-Tools-/350660103697?pt=UK_Spots_Leisure_Cycling_Tools_RepairKits&hash=item51a4f88e11
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Betty on December 18, 2012, 06:21 PM
Profile removal tool for the one you've pictured above

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=profile+crank+tool&LH_PrefLoc=2&_arm=1&_armm=63&_ruu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3Dprofile%2Bcrank%2Btool%26_arr%3D1&LH_AvailTo=3

Or this

Socket set extension bar against the spindle and hammer :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: rooski on December 18, 2012, 06:26 PM
Need more pics dude :)
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: BMX1973 on December 18, 2012, 06:29 PM
Is there any in the UK.

Do appreciate your help.

Profile removal tool for the one you've pictured above

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=profile+crank+tool&LH_PrefLoc=2&_arm=1&_armm=63&_ruu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3Dprofile%2Bcrank%2Btool%26_arr%3D1&LH_AvailTo=3

Or this

Socket set extension bar against the spindle and hammer :daumenhoch:


Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Dannywhac on December 18, 2012, 06:33 PM
Use the socket set extension like Betty said. Failing that fella, you can have a lend of my Profile removal tool if you like, although as it's near Chrimbo the post prolly won't get it to you before the 25th :)

Quick edit - I'm off to the posties tomorrow, so if you want to borrow one of my Profiles tools, pm me your addy and I'll send it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: BMX1973 on December 18, 2012, 07:06 PM
Thanks for the offer, seems a bit silly posting if I can get one cheap just need to know what one.

Happy to buy a second hand one off you, if you have 2. Send me a pm with PP details.

Don't really understand how the socket set extension works.


 
Use the socket set extension like Betty said. Failing that fella, you can have a lend of my Profile removal tool if you like, although as it's near Chrimbo the post prolly won't get it to you before the 25th :)

Quick edit - I'm off to the posties tomorrow, so if you want to borrow one of my Profiles tools, pm me your addy and I'll send it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Dannywhac on December 18, 2012, 07:10 PM
Thanks for the offer, seems a bit silly posting if I can get one cheap just need to know what one.

Happy to buy a second hand one off you, if you have 2. Send me a pm with PP details.

Don't really understand how the socket set extension works.


 
Use the socket set extension like Betty said. Failing that fella, you can have a lend of my Profile removal tool if you like, although as it's near Chrimbo the post prolly won't get it to you before the 25th :)

Quick edit - I'm off to the posties tomorrow, so if you want to borrow one of my Profiles tools, pm me your addy and I'll send it tomorrow.

No worries - don't really want to flog one as it's good to have spares (having broken two wellying cranks out....no cranks were harmed though :) )

The socket extension - take the female (sticky-inny bit) end, making sure it's not larger than the crank spindle, pop that end onto the top of the crank spindle and hammer the poop out of the male (sticky-outy) end. Job done.
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: BMX1973 on December 18, 2012, 07:23 PM
Thanks mate I think I know what you mean now.

Do you know of any place that stock them in UK?


Thanks for the offer, seems a bit silly posting if I can get one cheap just need to know what one.

Happy to buy a second hand one off you, if you have 2. Send me a pm with PP details.

Don't really understand how the socket set extension works.


 
Use the socket set extension like Betty said. Failing that fella, you can have a lend of my Profile removal tool if you like, although as it's near Chrimbo the post prolly won't get it to you before the 25th :)

Quick edit - I'm off to the posties tomorrow, so if you want to borrow one of my Profiles tools, pm me your addy and I'll send it tomorrow.

No worries - don't really want to flog one as it's good to have spares (having broken two wellying cranks out....no cranks were harmed though :) )

The socket extension - take the female (sticky-inny bit) end, making sure it's not larger than the crank spindle, pop that end onto the top of the crank spindle and hammer the poop out of the male (sticky-outy) end. Job done.
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Dannywhac on December 18, 2012, 07:30 PM
Here you go (although avoid W@nkstanleys):

http://www.tractionkitesuk.com/profile-racefreestyle-crank-arm-installation-tool-p-951.html?utm_source=GoogleBase1&utm_medium=BaseFeed1&utm_campaign=products

http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/21601/Profile_Solid_Spindle_Crank_Arm_RemovalInstallation_Tool

http://www.alansbmx.com/269704/products/profile_solid_spindle_crank_tool.aspx
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: BMX1973 on December 18, 2012, 07:46 PM
Thanks Danny

Seen some cheaper ones from this link:

http://www.customriders.co.uk/prodshow.asp?prodid=7975&cat=0&parent=0&sid=3

But do I need the Chopstick style or Social Style Each.

Cheers :daumenhoch:



http://www.tractionkitesuk.com/profile-racefreestyle-crank-arm-installation-tool-p-951.html?utm_source=GoogleBase1&utm_medium=BaseFeed1&utm_campaign=products

http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/21601/Profile_Solid_Spindle_Crank_Arm_RemovalInstallation_Tool

http://www.alansbmx.com/269704/products/profile_solid_spindle_crank_tool.aspx
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Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Dannywhac on December 18, 2012, 07:59 PM
Thanks Danny

Seen some cheaper ones from this link:

http://www.customriders.co.uk/prodshow.asp?prodid=7975&cat=0&parent=0&sid=3

But do I need the Chopstick style or Social Style Each.

Cheers :daumenhoch:



http://www.tractionkitesuk.com/profile-racefreestyle-crank-arm-installation-tool-p-951.html?utm_source=GoogleBase1&utm_medium=BaseFeed1&utm_campaign=products

http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/21601/Profile_Solid_Spindle_Crank_Arm_RemovalInstallation_Tool

http://www.alansbmx.com/269704/products/profile_solid_spindle_crank_tool.aspx

I've got nooo idea fella - never owned a set of DK cranks :(
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: BMX1973 on December 18, 2012, 08:02 PM
Good point there not for DK just followed a link from someone above.  :-\

Thanks Danny

Seen some cheaper ones from this link:

http://www.customriders.co.uk/prodshow.asp?prodid=7975&cat=0&parent=0&sid=3

But do I need the Chopstick style or Social Style Each.

Cheers :daumenhoch:



http://www.tractionkitesuk.com/profile-racefreestyle-crank-arm-installation-tool-p-951.html?utm_source=GoogleBase1&utm_medium=BaseFeed1&utm_campaign=products

http://www.winstanleysbmx.com/product/21601/Profile_Solid_Spindle_Crank_Arm_RemovalInstallation_Tool

http://www.alansbmx.com/269704/products/profile_solid_spindle_crank_tool.aspx

I've got nooo idea fella - never owned a set of DK cranks :(
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: TwoBobRob on December 18, 2012, 08:17 PM
You can make your own tool for pulling arms on or off. All you need is a longer bolt and a bunch of penny washers taped together.

To get your cranks apart right now, put the bolt back in the arm, but leave it a turn or two loose. give the head of the bolt a whack with a hammer - you'll see things start to move. Loosen the bolt a little more and give it another whack. Assuming it's all moving now, take the bolt out before you do any damage to the threads and as others have said, use the extension bar from a socket set (or any other decent drift) and continue knocking the axle through. Eventually a crank arm will fall off, you can then knock the axle and other arm out of the bike completely. Three piece cranks are supremely simple, the axle just sits within the bearing and can be tapped in and out easily. The whole thing is clamped in position and held tight by the crank arms.

Be sure to reassemble with a good amount of copper grease on all mating surfaces.

:)

Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Dannywhac on December 18, 2012, 08:23 PM
Just realised I've got these in me photobucket, might help for a spot of reference.

Profiles assembled how they'd be on a bike:

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/GTProfiles1.jpg)

Disassembled:

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/GTProfiles2.jpg)

Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: BMX1973 on December 18, 2012, 08:24 PM
Sounds a good idea, just a bit shy to try these things and cause damage  :-[

I'll have a ponder and update.

You can make your own tool for pulling arms on or off. All you need is a longer bolt and a bunch of penny washers taped together.

To get your cranks apart right now, put the bolt back in the arm, but leave it a turn or two loose. give the head of the bolt a whack with a hammer - you'll see things start to move. Loosen the bolt a little more and give it another whack. Assuming it's all moving now, take the bolt out before you do any damage to the threads and as others have said, use the extension bar from a socket set (or any other decent drift) and continue knocking the axle through. Eventually a crank arm will fall off, you can then knock the axle and other arm out of the bike completely. Three piece cranks are supremely simple, the axle just sits within the bearing and can be tapped in and out easily. The whole thing is clamped in position and held tight by the crank arms.

Be sure to reassemble with a good amount of copper grease on all mating surfaces.

:)


Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: BMX1973 on December 18, 2012, 08:26 PM
Ah that very helpful, I'm going to steal them photo's before you copyright them  >:D >:D

Just realised I've got these in me photobucket, might help for a spot of reference.

Profiles assembled how they'd be on a bike:

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/GTProfiles1.jpg)

Disassembled:

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/GTProfiles2.jpg)


Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: bof on December 18, 2012, 08:39 PM
Sounds a good idea, just a bit shy to try these things and cause damage  :-[

I'll have a ponder and update.

You can make your own tool for pulling arms on or off. All you need is a longer bolt and a bunch of penny washers taped together.

To get your cranks apart right now, put the bolt back in the arm, but leave it a turn or two loose. give the head of the bolt a whack with a hammer - you'll see things start to move. Loosen the bolt a little more and give it another whack. Assuming it's all moving now, take the bolt out before you do any damage to the threads and as others have said, use the extension bar from a socket set (or any other decent drift) and continue knocking the axle through. Eventually a crank arm will fall off, you can then knock the axle and other arm out of the bike completely. Three piece cranks are supremely simple, the axle just sits within the bearing and can be tapped in and out easily. The whole thing is clamped in position and held tight by the crank arms.

Be sure to reassemble with a good amount of copper grease on all mating surfaces.

:)




I would be careful using the bolt in the end method , if the cranks have been on a long time and no grease used on installation they can be a bit stubborn to remove , I would recommend using the proper tool if possible it just makes things a lot easier and safer :-)
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Dark Diggler on December 18, 2012, 08:45 PM
No local bike shop to you?
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: BMX1973 on December 18, 2012, 09:03 PM
There are a couple I might try if I get a chance this week.
No local bike shop to you?
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Betty on December 18, 2012, 09:44 PM
Looks like Danny's beat me to it with how they go together but i've took some pics to help if you wanna see  :)

An idiots guide so to speak  ;D
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: BMX1973 on December 18, 2012, 10:03 PM
Yes please, any help appreciated  :)

Looks like Danny's beat me to it with how they go together but i've took some pics to help if you wanna see  :)

An idiots guide so to speak  ;D
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Betty on December 18, 2012, 11:26 PM
Here we go then  :daumenhoch:

An idiots guide to removing profile or similar cranks

Loosen the back wheel and get the chain out the way, i haven't but you'll get the idea

Hammer and a profile removal/installation tool or if you don't have one a 1/4" socket set extension bar, and old one is a good idea, like mine the ends will mushroom after a few years bb removal  ;D

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/18-12-12001.jpg)

Assuming your cranks/bb look something like this, remove the non drive side axle bolt and washer, if you want to remove the drive side arm and sprocket from the axle loosen the bolts a touch while they're still on the bike to make em easier to remove once the cranks are out, for bb replacement or swapping cranks from bike to bike just the non drive side will do  :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/18-12-12004.jpg)

Removal tool screws into the axle then you whack the end of the tool pushing the axle out of the drive side

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/18-12-12005.jpg)

Or if you don't have a removal tool the socket extension bar will do the same job

This end

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/18-12-12007.jpg)

Place here, and whack it again pushing the axle toward the drive side  :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/18-12-12008.jpg)

With profile cranks the axle bolts hold the whole thing together, bb cups should sit slightly proud of the bb shell like this

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/18-12-12011.jpg)

Before you fit a bb put the bearings/cups on an axle with the tube spacer and hold em up to the bb shell to check the tube spacer is long enough if it's too short the cranks won't spin freely, saves the ball ache of finding out when you fit the cranks and tighten everything up  >:(

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/18-12-12012.jpg)

Here's the whole axle/bb as Danny pictured but with the cone spacers, wider one goes on the non drive side  :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/18-12-12009.jpg)

To remove the bb use the socket set extension bar to lever the tube spacer out of the way and give the bearing cups a good whacking till they pop out, they do end up covered in whack marks on the back

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m48/markw33/18-12-12010.jpg)

I know they're an odd pair of bearings but they were the first 2 i found in my box of shite  ;D

Hope this has been some help  :daumenhoch:






Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Dannywhac on December 19, 2012, 08:48 AM
Oh there's always one that has to go one better eh Betty  :yahoo_silent:

 :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Crank removal tool for 3 piece cranks? (PIC ADDED) Please Look!
Post by: Betty on December 19, 2012, 09:29 PM
I was bored Danny  :LolLolLolLol:
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