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Title: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on December 22, 2012, 06:06 PM
One of Two Robinson builds that will keep me ticking along this winter  :daumenhoch:

This 1980/81 R model Frame and Forks is the second in my collection (Tink's is in the background in the shot) this was shipped over along with Carl's Scott Clark EBB fron Chicago, Illinois, the Robinson Bars were from MarkyP and the other bits I either already had or will need to source over the next couple of months...... :smiley6600:


(http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u449/BADDH7/redrobbo1_zpse175d900.jpg)



(http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u449/BADDH7/red81_zpsf094f35e.jpg)


One from the Manchester meeting of Tink's bike.

(http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u449/BADDH7/Radchester10.jpg)
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: Badbaldie on December 22, 2012, 06:11 PM
good to see them Robinsons coming back to Wigan were they belong. your just missing a "R" gusset pro now Dazza  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on December 22, 2012, 06:13 PM
good to see them Robinsons coming back to Wigan were they belong. your just missing a "R" gusset pro now Dazza  :LolLolLolLol:

I have three Robinson Pro's but not the R Gusset Pro ....YET..... :smitten:
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: In2 bmx on December 22, 2012, 06:23 PM
Looking good dazza ..  :smitten:

It's an 81 mate with 84 forks ...  :daumenhoch:

Don't forget to bring my nos pro next week  :-* that leaves you with one less and me that needs help ..  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: crazycraig on December 22, 2012, 06:58 PM
Nice !

Gotta keep um in wigan

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c73/craigtheman/IMG_0856.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c73/craigtheman/IMG_0858.jpg)
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on December 22, 2012, 07:05 PM
Mr Crazy that's Nice ! 

Between us four simple mathematics = 25 Robinsons in Wigan

Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: b45t4rd on December 22, 2012, 07:08 PM
Nice Craig.  8)

Borrowed a pic to show a mucka.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: crazycraig on December 22, 2012, 07:09 PM
cheers chaps  :)
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: In2 bmx on December 22, 2012, 07:15 PM
Nice !

Gotta keep um in wigan

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c73/craigtheman/IMG_0856.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c73/craigtheman/IMG_0858.jpg)
it will be mine .....  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on December 22, 2012, 07:16 PM
Nice !

Gotta keep um in wigan

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c73/craigtheman/IMG_0856.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/c73/craigtheman/IMG_0858.jpg)
it will be mine .....  :daumenhoch:

He"s not Joking
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: crazycraig on December 22, 2012, 07:24 PM
hes already offered silly money and guess what .....................................................................its still here  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: In2 bmx on December 22, 2012, 07:34 PM
hes already offered silly money and guess what .....................................................................its still here  :LolLolLolLol:
  cash is king u c unt ... You already know its mine your just pulling my pisser ...  :LolLolLolLol:
See ya next week crazyvodkacraving x
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: crazycraig on December 22, 2012, 07:37 PM
cant wait mate  >:D
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on December 22, 2012, 08:26 PM
I think Red"s the colour for a R Robinson,  got one with Black that's a replica of my Pro I raced BITD and going to do the other one Blue I will start shortly   :smitten:
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on December 24, 2012, 04:49 PM
My 1986 Robinson Pro. :daumenhoch:

Not sure what the spec was on these new, but to be honest I think I will go with a blue theme.


(http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u449/BADDH7/86RobinsonPro_zps2fc040bf.jpg)
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: bobbbbsy on December 24, 2012, 04:51 PM
good to see them Robinsons coming back to Wigan were they belong. your just missing a "R" gusset pro now Dazza  :LolLolLolLol:

designed in wigan, made in the usa ?  ;D
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on December 24, 2012, 05:06 PM
good to see them Robinsons coming back to Wigan were they belong. your just missing a "R" gusset pro now Dazza  :LolLolLolLol:

designed in wigan, made in the usa ?  ;D

There was plenty of these bikes around Wigan mate given Alan was the sole importer for a number of the US manufacturers and we had three tracks within 30  minutes of each other.

Three Sisters
Coppull
Preston Pirates
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: Dark Diggler on December 24, 2012, 05:20 PM


Leigh is not in Wigan
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on December 24, 2012, 05:28 PM


Leigh is not in Wigan

Leigh ...  No I am completely the other side from Leigh mate. It I know there's a guy that way with the odd Robbo  here n there ....  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: crazycraig on December 24, 2012, 05:30 PM


Leigh is not in Wigan
:LolLolLolLol:

Leigh is not on this planet

I lived in Leigh for 5 months and was robbed 6 times

Glad I got out when I did . What about you diggler ?
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: bobbbbsy on December 24, 2012, 08:31 PM
good to see them Robinsons coming back to Wigan were they belong. your just missing a "R" gusset pro now Dazza  :LolLolLolLol:

designed in wigan, made in the usa ?  ;D

There was plenty of these bikes around Wigan mate given Alan was the sole importer for a number of the US manufacturers and we had three tracks within 30  minutes of each other.

Three Sisters
Coppull
Preston Pirates

been sworn off wigan. family from manchester !  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: Dark Diggler on December 24, 2012, 10:07 PM
Quote from: CRAZYPAVING link=topic=155605.msg1541858#msg1541858 date

Glad I got out when I did . What about you diggler ?

I left......I never got out, Boothstown was worse....tenfold :-\
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on December 28, 2012, 08:39 AM
Did a bit of work on these yesterday


(http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u449/BADDH7/86cleanup_zpsa13d047a.jpg)


(http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u449/BADDH7/81rechrome_zps5cad5b9d.jpg)


Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on January 09, 2013, 11:31 PM
I have found something tonight, I had some of my R bikes build up for a mate to look at and he noticed my two smaller framed bikes have quite a few differences in them  :(.

He is right too they are  different In terms of size and geometry.

My original one known as the 81 with a serial 112*** and no E or P stamping on the drop out is an 18" TT and has quite a significant angle towards the head stock.

My other one we think is an 81 with an earlier serial 050*** stamped on the BB, no E or P stamped on dropouts but the frame is 3/4" longer at just under 19"  TT  and has a different shape to the rear brake bridge area and the TT is much shallower angle to the other frame, but the frame and wheelbase is definitely 1" longer when sude by side. The other noticable difference is the tubing and BB is thicker guage material.

I have an 83 Pro here and that is 19.5" TT just a smidge longer then the 050 frameset.


What's your thoughts on this ?   :(
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: NORTY40 on January 09, 2013, 11:40 PM
I have found something tonight, I had some of my R bikes build up for a mate to look at and he noticed my two smaller framed bikes have quite a few differences in them  :(.

He is right to they are  different In terms of size and geometry.

My original one known as the 81 with a serial 112*** and no E or P stamping on the drop out is an 18" TT and quite a high raise in the TT angle towards the head stock.

My other one we think is an 81 with an earlier serial 050*** stamped on the BB again no E or P stamped on dropouts but the frame is 3/4" longer at just under 19"  TT  and has a different shape to the rear brake bridge area and the TT is not as raised as the other frame, but the frame and wheelbase is definitely 1" longer.

I have an 83 Pro here and that is 19.5" TT just a smidge longer then the 050 framesets


What's your thoughts on this ?   :(

There snides Darren , you have been done  :LolLolLolLol:

Have you not spoke to Carl  ??? 
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on January 09, 2013, 11:49 PM
No only seen it tonight well it was the Sheik who saw it  not me  went like this .... he asked if it was my new Pro  .... " And I said no there Experts"... The Shiek said dont think so its 1" longer wheel base look  you twonk get yer glasses on ..... Folk me it is too  that's odd dunno then :-\

It's definitely a longer bike though 100%  :-\

I will consult the Master Robinson Jedi today.
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on January 11, 2013, 05:38 PM
I have been given what I believe the answer from the top, so its right !

The earlier bikes were made by different manufacturers so it is more than likely these Pre E expert stamped frames with the earliy serial numbers were made by different engineering workshops with different tooling capabilities. Once they were under contract to be built by one rather large mainstream manufacturer with serial numbers and size demarcations then became consistent  by year and size  like 883124 being an 83  and P or E or M  for size as we know  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: NORTY40 on January 11, 2013, 06:08 PM
I have been given a good bit of advise from a  very very good man over the Pond.

The earlier bikes were made by different manufacturers so it is more than likely these Pre E expert stamped frames with the earliy serial numbers were made by different engineering workshops with different tooling capabilities  until the mainstream serial numbers and size demarcations became consistent  by year and size  kike 883124 being an 83 etc   :daumenhoch:

Who told you that Darren ?   Has he some connection with Robinson ?

Only thinking that Carl might want to ask him a few things  ;)
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: Badbaldie on January 11, 2013, 06:45 PM
I have been given a good bit of advise from a  very very good man over the Pond.

The earlier bikes were made by different manufacturers so it is more than likely these Pre E expert stamped frames with the earliy serial numbers were made by different engineering workshops with different tooling capabilities  until the mainstream serial numbers and size demarcations became consistent  by year and size  kike 883124 being an 83 etc   :daumenhoch:

Who told you that Darren ?   Has he some connection with Robinson ?

Only thinking that Carl might want to ask him a few things  ;)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/zz192/denistephenson/smileys/smiley%20characters/bth_jokersmile.gif) it was me i told him , and he believed every word , i just made it as i went along (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/snickering.gif)
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on January 11, 2013, 10:21 PM
Joff
A guy in the USA, I think he might know a thing or two about all things Robinson.....  8)

Mr S Clark  ..........8)


Carl knows him well mate   ;)
Title: Re: Sorry another R Robinson, I need help....
Post by: BADDH on January 26, 2013, 06:49 PM
Today was a bit special,   :D

The Grail has laded at BADDH Towers from Arizona  happy days.  :coolsmiley:

Mr BadBaldie your a diamond got a big kiss for you here ....  :LolLolLolLol:
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