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Title: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: monkeybat on January 09, 2013, 11:15 AM
For new riders to come along and start useing them again they need to be stiffer hold more psi in the tyres and a better braking surface. Only thing they have done has been to make a 9 tooth sprocket hub.
They dont seem to sponsor ANY riders anymore thus not showcaseing there wheels ?
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: GavinDavis on January 09, 2013, 11:28 AM
I doubt that much more strength could be added to their current design really.

Plus the fact, Skyway have a massive following and know that their products will sell, so they probably wont want to venture too far from their already classic design that people love.  They took a fair bit of abuse back in the day too  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: oldschoolace on January 09, 2013, 11:31 AM
+1 I would also say although it was probably financially beneficial, the whole rooster/big daddy/ shitty bike partnership did nothing for their credability  :'(
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: oldschoolace on January 09, 2013, 11:39 AM
They are also bringing out a six spoke design soon. Is the short answer  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: DoubleD on January 09, 2013, 11:47 AM
Be honoust: Would you race with these wheels  these days ?

They look ace no doubt about it
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: GavinDavis on January 09, 2013, 11:49 AM
They are also bringing out a six spoke design soon. Is the short answer  :daumenhoch:

Yeah the 6 spokes look nice!  But I doubt it'l be a winner with the old school crew as up until this day they didnt exist.  And then I suppose you'd have to question how many youngsters will want them for park use when a spoked wheel is stronger (in theory).

Nice though :)
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: pickle on January 09, 2013, 11:56 AM
i think it's just down to the meterials, nylon plastic just isn't that stiff with 14 stone (i wish) on them.  if they make it too stiff then they will become too brittle and just snap.

Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: ED209 on January 09, 2013, 12:00 PM
its because they will never be as good as OGKs so they gave up trying and made wheelchairs  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: Badbaldie on January 09, 2013, 12:00 PM
you cant reinvent the SKYWAY just mimic it ...
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: GavinDavis on January 09, 2013, 12:18 PM
its because they will never be as good as OGKs so they gave up trying an made wheelchairs  :daumenhoch:

 ;D ...  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: animal on January 09, 2013, 01:29 PM
Because they do exactly what it says on the tin  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: monkeybat on January 09, 2013, 05:11 PM
More riders old and new would ride them if you could put 100 psi and the tyres not pop off(no lip for tyres to grip too). Better brakeing surface and 9-12 tooth hub. Love the design/style and they should not change it. Graphites are stiffer, maybe a hybrid mix.
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: Gizmo on January 09, 2013, 05:45 PM

if it aint broke , dont fix it  ;)
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: monkeybat on January 09, 2013, 05:46 PM
There broke. ^"^
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: ozone on January 09, 2013, 09:37 PM
More riders old and new would ride them if you could put 100 psi and the tyres not pop off(no lip for tyres to grip too). Better brakeing surface and 9-12 tooth hub. Love the design/style and they should not change it. Graphites are stiffer, maybe a hybrid mix.

I suppose they could build a carbon fibre wheel but it would be insanely expensive.  Might be useful for racing but you wouldn't want to use one for big airs etc.  :-\
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: Steve Shindig on January 11, 2013, 09:11 AM
Hello, if anyone is interested, I've had a front Skyway on for a while now and it rules.

I use a fat CULT Kenda Dehart tyre on there that is a really stiff tyre that also has a super tight bead, meaning it's hard to get on the rim.

It takes 80psi as that's all I can get in there.  It stays on the rim no worries.  Also, I modified / modernised the front axle and cone nuts.

I had the 9T cassette on the back, which had a pretty decent cassette hub (1pc sealed like original Odyssey cassette hubs)  but took the wheel off as it was just too heavy, overall.

If Skyway were to produce their graphite tuffs with an affordable 9T driver (like they currently do with plastics)  that would be amazing!  RSD and LSD versions, too.

It would spark a comeback for Skyway in the 'new school' for sure.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/nn303/ShindigBMX/skyway01_zps069ee0e0.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/nn303/ShindigBMX/skyway02_zpsf32d2dce.jpg)
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: Devilock on January 11, 2013, 09:29 AM
As previously mentioned, a super lightweight CF race wheel would be interesting...
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: Pioneer on January 11, 2013, 11:28 AM
Not a cheap thing to just knock out a set of injection dies.

The moulds that they are using on the current retro wheel is an old mould that has been modified

The Skyway Tuff would never survive if they were to rely on the BMX market ;)
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: monkeybat on January 12, 2013, 07:12 PM
Thanks for the input guys.  They (Skyway) will never get any new school rider's as long as they stay in the dark ages. I love the simplicity of tuffs but would love a better braking surface, thick bead for hp tyres and a 9 tooth sprocket. A good pair of wheels can cost you up to £250+  If Skyway uped there wheels to  £150 instead of £60 and sponsored some new riders who knows.
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on January 12, 2013, 07:39 PM
Sort of off-topic but not much...
http://store.aerospoke.com/product.cgi?group=33829&product=33830
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: Devilock on January 12, 2013, 07:49 PM
Sort of off-topic but not much...
http://store.aerospoke.com/product.cgi?group=33829&product=33830

How did you come across those James?
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on January 12, 2013, 07:54 PM
Sort of off-topic but not much...
http://store.aerospoke.com/product.cgi?group=33829&product=33830

How did you come across those James?

 Some BMX Race site I think :)
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: ozone on January 12, 2013, 07:59 PM
Price: $ 298.00 each + $85 if you want a colour, which you probably do.  Where does it tell you how much they weigh?  Pretty important if you're thinking of throwing $383 at a wheel.   ???

Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on January 12, 2013, 08:04 PM
  Aerospoke sure make some wild claims..."Never need trueing" is asking for trouble :daumenhoch: 
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: ozone on January 12, 2013, 09:34 PM
 Aerospoke sure make some wild claims..."Never need trueing" is asking for trouble :daumenhoch:  

How do you true a wheel that doesn't have spokes and nipples anyway?  Besides putting them in the freezer.   >:D

Maybe never need truing means bin them if they become warped as we have no way of putting them right?   :police:

Monkeybat, do you have a spare $760 (plus shipping and tax) knocking around as these wheels sound right up your street?   :D
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: monkeybat on January 12, 2013, 09:50 PM
Good point but  $700 is taking the P155.  Wheels did look good though. Would also like to know how much they weigh.
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: popedante on January 12, 2013, 09:54 PM
anyone remember the spin carbon wheels , were on a 90's Gt if i remember dont know if they were any use ?
Title: Re: Why have Skyway never updated there wheels ?
Post by: not johndub71 on January 13, 2013, 01:14 AM
I have a mate in New York, Al Cayne, or crazy al, he races Skyway graphite 20s on his bike. He got a kinda deal from skyway having them seen him race on standard new school tuff 2s.
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