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Title: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: spadey99 on January 14, 2013, 09:43 PM
Hi guys

heres one for you, I bought this on e bay as a Kuwi Laser lite, it of course wasnt so got a refund but seller didnt want me to post it back so got it very cheap.... :)

But what is it? there is another same serial one on at moment and hes saying frame and forks is a Yes Titan Dominator but dropouts etc are totally different.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/skyway-bmx-old-school-/230912124799?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item35c36f677f

Anyway heres a few pics.
(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l637/spadey99/kuwi2.jpg)

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l637/spadey99/kuwi1.jpg)

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l637/spadey99/IMG_2874.jpg)
serial YF 831262187

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l637/spadey99/kuwi3.jpg)

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l637/spadey99/kuwi4.jpg)

Im going to sell it on as I have removed the UKAI wheels it came with, any thoughts guys??

Steve
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: CustardLips on January 14, 2013, 10:36 PM
Can't help with the ID but ill take the bars if your splitting.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: spadey99 on January 14, 2013, 10:42 PM
Hi mate

to be honest would rather split than put back on e bay if some BMX boys will get a use for them.... I dont think there branded....

Steve
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: deeman on January 14, 2013, 11:49 PM
I'm sure someone will be along with an ID soon mate.Bendycat Eleventeen will probably be your man.My guess is some sort of Tange or a copy :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: spadey99 on January 15, 2013, 11:43 AM
cheers mate, I will probably split it then shove the rest on e bay, it is a lovely built frame and I assume the 83 in serial means year so good old school bike.

Steve
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: Macmania on January 15, 2013, 12:18 PM
Wouldn't mind the stem and seat clamp if you split please  :daumenhoch: Second's on the bars as well if CustardLips passes  :)
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: spadey99 on January 15, 2013, 12:25 PM
Ok mate, I will do the £10 thing so I can list in for sale etc, Im always up for a swop too, I need a 44t chainring if anyone has one?

Right let me sort the £10 thing out so I can list all my bits.

Steve
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: monkian on January 15, 2013, 12:26 PM
Not sure what it is but it's not a Tange frame.
Could still be Japanese though. Looks well made whatever it is.
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: stfc on January 15, 2013, 01:21 PM
I would be interested in the frame and forks as a rider for My lad ...
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: Taipan on January 15, 2013, 01:58 PM
pm sent regarding wheels,thx :)
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: spadey99 on January 15, 2013, 02:45 PM
If it was Tange made it would have serial T wouldnt it? Still it really is lovely frame and forks and the chrome is one of best ive seen on a 80s bmx.... Best in my collection of 35 anyway ha ha

Steve
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on January 15, 2013, 02:57 PM
been looking and can't find much - it will be one of those " i had one of those back in the day bmx's" when the right person see's it

not Tange
sort of like Akisu/Jen Min
most likely a Jap frame
it will be the YF that might give it away

polished up it will look sweet  >:D and a few right parts will make it look cool  8)
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: spadey99 on January 15, 2013, 03:17 PM
Cheers Bendycat, strange there is another on e bay and no one knows ha ha...... I have polished it now and it is stunning and totally rust free. Also had some Kuwahara stickers floating about so put them on and it does look nice...... Thanks for info though....

I would imagine that someone on here will get it..... Just want to know what it is ha ha

Steve
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on January 15, 2013, 03:47 PM
I have a frame that no one knew - then i saw one advert in bmx action the size of a mtach box ~ i matched the frame up and now know what it is  ;)

jen Min - aound '83 - japanesse made, looks very close to a TAnge made frame with good welds  ;)


note the drop outs - so could be from the Gen Min range - i don't think they came with decals - just frame and forks (akisu on mine)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX/SNC15878.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX/SNC15862.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX/SNC15863.jpg)
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: monkian on January 15, 2013, 03:59 PM
Have you got a pic of that Gen Bin Ad B?
I wouldn't mind a look at that 8) :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on January 15, 2013, 04:01 PM
Will see if I can find it, but its nothing special !
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: spadey99 on January 15, 2013, 04:07 PM
here it is now with a few stickers...... Excuse the seat as its a new style Haro stubby thing as it had a Kashi on it and until I can find an Elina for Laser Lite it will go on that......

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l637/spadey99/ebay1.jpg)
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on January 15, 2013, 06:02 PM
Paul mate here you go

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX%20Parts/SNV13118.jpg)

and another frame i haven't seen before


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/tt183/ELEVENTEENBENDYCAT/BMX%20Parts/SNV13120.jpg)
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: monkian on January 15, 2013, 06:08 PM
That's cool B. Thanks man :daumenhoch:
Taiwanese made though not Japanese...
but most Japanese makers including Tange ended up moving there.
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: deeman on January 15, 2013, 06:11 PM
Like that DCT,shame it's Hi-ten.My first BMX was a hi-ten twin top tube DRAGON FREESTYLER,still yet to see one of those!weighed a bloody ton :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on January 15, 2013, 06:21 PM
That's cool B. Thanks man :daumenhoch:
Taiwanese made though not Japanese...
but most Japanese makers including Tange ended up moving there.


my mistake - too tired  ;D

this was the other info i found at the time

http://www.biketaiwan.com/database/tbdb.asp?custid=000768
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: skyway67 on January 15, 2013, 07:44 PM
glad i found this thread i too have one of these mystery frames near enough the same frame number lovely welds and quite light  :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v712/skyway67/DSC03997.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v712/skyway67/DSC03995.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v712/skyway67/DSC03993.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v712/skyway67/DSC03992.jpg)

thanks for the info guys mines getting powdered blue
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: Wez on January 15, 2013, 08:07 PM
Hi Spadey mate ;)

Yes I got an 'AERO' framed mystery bike too...

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a621/WezTon001/20130115_194335_zps6d9e9988.jpg)
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a621/WezTon001/20130115_194345_zps30648a53.jpg)
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a621/WezTon001/20130115_194354_zps45d039eb.jpg)

only one other on the web  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: Wez on January 15, 2013, 08:22 PM
glad i found this thread i too have one of these mystery frames near enough the same frame number lovely welds and quite light  :daumenhoch:


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v712/skyway67/DSC03992.jpg)

thanks for the info guys mines getting powdered blue

those forks are like Tioga Rhino ... :-\
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on January 15, 2013, 08:28 PM
I Guess i uncovered the mystery of these frame that have been sitting there  ::)

Also i guess the put some different gussets on it and headtube brace plates  ;)
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: Wez on January 15, 2013, 08:33 PM
I Guess i uncovered the mystery of these frame that have been sitting there  ::)

Also i guess the put some different gussets on it and headtube brace plates  ;)

theyre good looking frames and light, will look good once sprayed up

by the way Bendycat I think my Pro Burner used to belong to you ? Serial ***66 etc... i think u had whitwalls on it ?
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: spadey99 on January 15, 2013, 08:52 PM
Hi guys

so have we worked out what mine is? Why no gusset?????

Steve
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: Wez on January 15, 2013, 08:57 PM
gotta be from the same camp..

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a621/WezTon001/photo_zps8056c881.jpg)

 :buck2:
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: spadey99 on January 15, 2013, 09:04 PM
Just looked at the sticker placement on the Aero with gusset and defo the same, looked at my frame and you can see where the stickers where as chrome not marked and placement length etc looks exactly the same where it was...

So its an Aero? we think

Steve
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: Wez on January 15, 2013, 09:13 PM
I've looked all over and the Aero brand is not like Aero Reflex for instance...I think just a reference to what is Aero tubing  :(

you'rs has the same forks too...

i bought this cheap off ebay based on a small fuzzy foto in the hope the wheels were skyways, alas nay ...  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: spadey99 on January 15, 2013, 09:15 PM
Cheers Wez, I think I will split it for all the boys and girls and boys on here as its taking up space now.... Problem is I have no idea what these bits are worth..... It owes me peanuts but no idea to price stuff...

Steve
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on January 15, 2013, 09:36 PM
I would say there are a couple or more frame that were made by Jen Min - some have a tear drop areo tubing and some are just normal - some have a gusset plate and some have a headtube gusset

If you were making them you could just add the parts on for the different model - then offer it to the shop seller and he just gets which one he likes and he can sell it as frame and forks only or they could make it up with parts and sell it cheaper than a pro bmx model

wez - who did you by it off - got a pic ?  ;)
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: Wez on January 15, 2013, 10:04 PM
I would say there are a couple or more frame that were made by Jen Min - some have a tear drop areo tubing and some are just normal - some have a gusset plate and some have a headtube gusset

If you were making them you could just add the parts on for the different model - then offer it to the shop seller and he just gets which one he likes and he can sell it as frame and forks only or they could make it up with parts and sell it cheaper than a pro bmx model

wez - who did you by it off - got a pic ?  ;)

I bought it off the bay from a guy down south, a bike shop...
Theres a snap on the pro register on burnerworld forum bottom of the post of how it was with whitewalls, where u have put the serial of frame and forks ***66* alongside it ...
 (http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a621/WezTon001/pro_zps2d6980db.jpg)
Here it is now ..
(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a621/WezTon001/20130115_113216_zpsf6d7a560.jpg)
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN on January 15, 2013, 10:35 PM
I remember this one on the bay  ;) sadly i didn't own this one - i just asked about the serial numbers for the register on Burnerworld - I do have one now and have sold another to Neil ~ missed one at a car show as the guy said it was now his sons, and he was going to keep it - will ask again soon if he want's to sell it

you have done a top job there - does yours get ridden ? they are a very sweet ride  >:D
Title: Re: What is this? sold as a Kuwi Laser but not, Rhino??? Help with ID...
Post by: Wez on January 17, 2013, 09:53 AM
I remember this one on the bay  ;) sadly i didn't own this one - i just asked about the serial numbers for the register on Burnerworld - I do have one now and have sold another to Neil ~ missed one at a car show as the guy said it was now his sons, and he was going to keep it - will ask again soon if he want's to sell it

you have done a top job there - does yours get ridden ? they are a very sweet ride  >:D

Yea had a shuffle round my village hen fitted the headset, silky motion  8) just waiting on some dry sun now
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