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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: Jaymz on February 20, 2013, 07:19 PM
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Ding dong!!
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Very cool :daumenhoch: nice to see a few more 2hip's getting about.
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Very cool :daumenhoch: nice to see a few more 2hip's getting about.
Its all down to subsidence in the warehouse, they've had to shift them!!!!
Nice though.
MM
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Nice bit of kit that jaymz. There is gonna be loads of 2hip builds at Mk at this rate. :daumenhoch:
Ron will be proud. :4_17_5:
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Looking forward to seeing it built Jay :daumenhoch:
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Cheers all
All the parts are coming together nicely forthis now, just have to shift my last two frames to pay for some of it
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Will this one be a keeper? :daumenhoch:
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Oh I think so
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Nice J! So are you gonna grind the rear tube away so the chain doesn't rub? :idiot2:
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Nice J! So are you gonna grind the rear tube away so the chain doesn't rub? :idiot2:
ummmmmmmmmm, no! I will find another way
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Nice J! So are you gonna grind the rear tube away so the chain doesn't rub? :idiot2:
If it touches I would file the drop out slot towards the front a bit and run a half link. I didn't know there was a problem with this frame. :)
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Nice J! So are you gonna grind the rear tube away so the chain doesn't rub? :idiot2:
If it touches I would file the drop out slot towards the front a bit and run a half link. I didn't know there was a problem with this frame. :)
the engineer at work is on standby with the milling machine!!!!
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Nice J! So are you gonna grind the rear tube away so the chain doesn't rub? :idiot2:
If it touches I would file the drop out slot towards the front a bit and run a half link. I didn't know there was a problem with this frame. :)
the engineer at work is on standby with the milling machine!!!!
:LolLolLolLol: ....Just add a couple of extra washers on the inside of the drops dude, thats the other option on the sheet :daumenhoch:
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Nice J! So are you gonna grind the rear tube away so the chain doesn't rub? :idiot2:
If it touches I would file the drop out slot towards the front a bit and run a half link. I didn't know there was a problem with this frame. :)
the engineer at work is on standby with the milling machine!!!!
yeah mate will go for that option first, just spread the rear a bit for clearance
:LolLolLolLol: ....Just add a couple of extra washers on the inside of the drops dude, thats the other option on the sheet :daumenhoch:
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Actually scrub that. I have just read about the problem on the 2hip site.
Apparently the front sprocket runs on the chainstay. But it was only a problem on one batch.
Lets hope yours is one of the good ones.
If not run a slightly smaller front sprocket like a 38 or 40t with a coaster at the rear to give a good ratio. But remember the chain needs to clear the ad990. :daumenhoch:
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On the 2 hip site it mentions the chain wheel hitting frame, my bit of paper say the chain may hit the seat stays, so they must've had two sketchy batches with two different problems
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If it hits the seat stay, place a thin washer at the back of the chainring or disc depending on what your running. This will push it away from the seat stay by the thickness of whatever size washer you use. Done it before and it works. ;)
P.S I like it.. :4_17_5:
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Couple of pics of the forks married to the frame
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chromes a fooker to take a picture of aint it ;D.
lookin good though J.
what else is going on it ?.
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That looks spot on Jay!! Im getting excited to see this build already :)
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chromes a fooker to take a picture of aint it ;D.
lookin good though J.
what else is going on it ?.
chrome profiles, seventies wheels, San quentin bars, Oddy z77 seat, acs front brake, ad990 rear, fishbone seatclamp, TNT chain wheel
Stuck for levers, although got a pair of primos, tyres, got a set of amber wall white comp lll's just to try something different, grips Oddy power paw or some gt ones, pedals, got some nice sealed revel ones if need be
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sounds like its gonna be a nice build....................... now get on with it ;D
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sounds like its gonna be a nice build....................... now get on with it ;D
im waiting on a few of the bits to turn up, I like to get it all together then have a mad hour building it up
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sounds like its gonna be a nice build....................... now get on with it ;D
Yeah Jay....I dunno what your playing around at.....get it built!! ;D
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If not run a slightly smaller front sprocket like a 38 or 40t with a coaster at the rear to give a good ratio.
I wouldn't run a coaster Stu with such a small front ring. Coaster sprockets are normally 18T plus and with a 40T at the front, it would be like trying to ride a flatland setup.
I would try something like a Shimano DX hub at the rear Jaymz. Flip the sprocket inwards to move the chain away from the stay. They are normally 14T too so running a 40T at the front is okay with it.
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If not run a slightly smaller front sprocket like a 38 or 40t with a coaster at the rear to give a good ratio.
I wouldn't run a coaster Stu with such a small front ring. Coaster sprockets are normally 18T plus and with a 40T at the front, it would be like trying to ride a flatland setup.
I would try something like a Shimano DX hub at the rear Jaymz. Flip the sprocket inwards to move the chain away from the stay. They are normally 14T too so running a 40T at the front is okay with it.
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Terry what the fook are you talking about???
I'm not talking about a coaster on a set of tuffs from the 80's mate.
I'm talking about a 90's freecoaster like a nankai, static or sym hub. These all run 16 down to 13 tooth rear sprockets mate. Come on son get with the mid school!!! ;D
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Terry what the fook are you talking about???
Any need for that?? Was I rude to you??
Unlike you, mid school to me didn't happen. 100% old school here :coolsmiley:
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Terry what the fook are you talking about???
Any need for that?? Was I rude to you??
Unlike you, mid school to me didn't happen. 100% old school here :coolsmiley:
I wasn't being rude terry. How can you comment that midschool didn't happen. When you are posting in a thread about a midschool build? Come on lighten up pal!! ;)
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have always liked those stout boys 8)
nice n light though-think framwe is about 8lbs :shocked:
did you get it off jai?
might have to give him a pm
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If not run a slightly smaller front sprocket like a 38 or 40t with a coaster at the rear to give a good ratio.
I wouldn't run a coaster Stu with such a small front ring. Coaster sprockets are normally 18T plus and with a 40T at the front, it would be like trying to ride a flatland setup.
I would try something like a Shimano DX hub at the rear Jaymz. Flip the sprocket inwards to move the chain away from the stay. They are normally 14T too so running a 40T at the front is okay with it.
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j406/Londonhellboy/Reach/2012-08-14090204.jpg)
Terry what the fook are you talking about???
I'm not talking about a coaster on a set of tuffs from the 80's mate.
I'm talking about a 90's freecoaster like a nankai, static or sym hub. These all run 16 down to 13 tooth rear sprockets mate. Come on son get with the mid school!!! ;D
You can go down to a 10/11/12t with a Kore coaster cog, best to weld them on though :daumenhoch:
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Yum yum, more parts in the post today
Wilkerson airlines San quentin bars
Nos in the box fishbone seatclamp
Micro adjust seat post
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Starting to take shape nicely now Jay :daumenhoch:
Ill be building mine when I get paid lol.
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This bike is going to look phat when it's done! :daumenhoch:
Can't believe I skipped through the mid-school era. :idiot2:
Gotta get mine done now!! ;D
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Been playing this morning in the man den, got lots done as you can see.
The one problem that was outlined badly by 2hip was the sat stays, well what this problem is the free wheel grinds on it, but by adding 3 washers it fixed the problem, but also meant it took a great deal of force to open the stays and get the rear wheel in, but it's done, the other problem with it is the 990 mounts are really too far towards the rear of the frame, in order for the blocks to be anywhere near the rim the wheel has to be a bit far back in the drops, but anyway, it's not like I'm going to be riding it in anger so alls good, here are some pics
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Spec so far
Wilkerson San Quentin bars with Jive grips
Profiles 175
TNT 44t
Dc ad990
Seventies wheels
Just waiting on my headset, levers and pegs now
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lookin good mate.
everybodies gone 2hip mad.
mind im not complaining.its keeps em all away from the s&m stuff ;D
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Looking good so far :daumenhoch:
How fat is that downtube :shocked:
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Looks stunning :daumenhoch:
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lookin good mate.
everybodies gone 2hip mad.
mind im not complaining.its keeps em all away from the s&m stuff ;D
i do t think it replace my love for S&M fella
Looking good so far :daumenhoch:
How fat is that downtube :shocked:
its certainly no skinny old school effort
Looks stunning :daumenhoch:
thank you, it's my mintiest build yet
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Thats looks the bomb Jay! Love it mate! :daumenhoch:
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Managed to get a couple of hours in the man den this evening. Couple of small issues raised their heads
1. Supernatural forks need 2 layers of coke can shim to properly seat the crown race
2. 1" threadless 2Hip forks are nothing like 1"1/8 threadless forks see here for how to guide http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=159098.0;topicseen
3. Top giro plate fouls the bottom of the stem
4. Once top plate has been ground down and sorted, giro doesn't work as there is no distance between the plates and the cables will not tension
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point 4 you might be able to shorten the cable by using knarp type things
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point 4 you might be able to shorten the cable by using knarp type things
i almost shortened the whole Fooking bike with a big hammer,, had to down tools and come in for the evening!!
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Ive got a gyro on mine Jay? And so did Robbo? Have a look at our build threads and see if they look any different?
I know I used a beartrap 2 headset on mine if that helps?
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.....but then that was on a couple of big boys so maybe it differs slightly? The test pics show supernaturals with a gyro though?
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Another couple of hours this morning and some more mods to the already modded frame, proper mid school this, nothing fits
So front hub rubs on peg bosses, need to space out forks with washers
Gyro sorted, but on max extension of the cables
Back wheel slammed almost to the end of thE dropouts otherwise brake won't reach the rim
No bolts for the peg mounts so pegs on axels for now
Acs rear calliper modded to fit front need pads as well and right calliper arm won't move
So still a bit to go before I can give it a good riding
And I weighed it, see pic below
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Modded headset
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Hub rubbage
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And the winner is
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Where is the headset top nut? ???
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Love it Jay! Takes a bit of tweaking by the sounds of it! :LolLolLolLol:
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Where is the headset top nut? ???
i had 5 of them here and none would go over the knurling
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Where is the headset top nut? ???
i had 5 of them here and none would go over the knurling
Could you use a dremel and take a skim out of the inside of the top nut?
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A beartrap 2 nut does. But you have to grind away the lip on the top. :daumenhoch:
If you fitted a complete beartrap type the stem would sit a bit higher. Also the top gyro plate would be in the correct position so you have more adjustment. ;)
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A beartrap 2 nut does. But you have to grind away the lip on the top. :daumenhoch:
If you fitted a complete beartrap type the stem would sit a bit higher. Also the top gyro plate would be in the correct position so you have more adjustment. ;)
but if it all fits and works it's no fun
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Yes jaymz. But it also has to look right mate.
That headset with back to back headset cones and a few washers looks a bit of a bodge. :shocked: :daumenhoch:
I know you are a better bike builder than this attempt. (If you don't sort it I will fookin sit on u!!) :LolLolLolLol: :4_17_5:
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Stu is right J.
Grind the top lip off the locknut with an angle grinder and you are good to go ... ask Gav. - he's got one I did and it fits sweet :daumenhoch:
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Stu is right J.
Grind the top lip off the locknut with an angle grinder and you are good to go ... ask Gav. - he's got one I did and it fits sweet :daumenhoch:
Yep....all good :daumenhoch:
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I did it on Sunday. Just need to fit it
Also robbed some peg bolts for the front pegs. And yet more washers to space the forks away from the hubs
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...you do whinge a lot :)
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Tough build this ed.
Te bolts I got from work from the pegs are 1mm too big, need 9mm to go through the forks!!!!! Another whine for you
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i wonder if ron had fell off and bumped his head again when he was designing these things :LolLolLolLol:
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the top headset nut is unneeded on these setups. thats the job for the mega compression nut on top. :daumenhoch: just like hoffman superforks.
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i wonder if ron had fell off and bumped his head again when he was designing these things :LolLolLolLol:
use half of an axle with the cone nut one end and the wheel nut on the other :)
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i wonder if ron had fell off and bumped his head again when he was designing these things :LolLolLolLol:
use half on an axle with the cone nut one end and the wheel nut on the other :)
ed what size bolts did you use for the peg bosses? the hole measures under 10mm but too much under to be 3/8"
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Do the peg boss holes not just need a drill bit running through them due to the extra thickness of the plating?
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Do the peg boss holes not just need a drill bit running through them due to the extra thickness of the plating?
i was wondering if that was the case, but a bit reluctant to drill nos forks to be honest, and I don't have a drill that big to hand
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Do the peg boss holes not just need a drill bit running through them due to the extra thickness of the plating?
i was wondering if that was the case, but a bit reluctant to drill nos forks to be honest, and I don't have a drill that big to hand
NOS? They've been part of a built bike now haven't they? Get a 3/8 or 10mm drill bit through there man :LolLolLolLol: :daumenhoch:
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Nicked a nice 10mm dormer drill bit from work today, so let the drilling commence
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Ah Jay you cant drill the forks man! :LolLolLolLol:
Cant you just use an piece of 8mm allthread with a nut on either end? Are you actually planning to stand/grind on them or will they be decorative? :daumenhoch:
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Decorative mate, and I think fugazi is right, the plating is rather thick as the cut edges are rounded with so much plating
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Ah ok well it certainly sounds as though theyve been mega plated by that description :-\
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ah the good old days of mid school bikes where everything had to be modded to fit. tools for the job were a hacksaw, file, big hammer, drill bits and a few plasters. ;D bikes looking good mate.
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:shocked: :LolLolLolLol:
don;t you fukkin start :police:
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Is this not finished yet Jay ??? ::)
I don't know, it's only a bike. Should take about an hour and half to bang together and get everything setup right :daumenhoch:
I would have asked Adam to come round and give me some help :coolsmiley:
Hurry up man! I want to see it finished :4_17_5:
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:shocked: :LolLolLolLol:
don;t you fukkin start :police:
:)
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Is this not finished yet Jay ??? ::)
I don't know, it's only a bike. Should take about an hour and half to bang together and get everything setup right :daumenhoch:
I would have asked Adam to come round and give me some help :coolsmiley:
Hurry up man! I want to see it finished :4_17_5:
work, kids, dogs, DIY u fortunately all come first, I'm just having a quick cuppa and a fag before I go back to my decorating :(
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FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smitten:
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Nos stout boy frame
Nos supernatural forks and stem
Seventies wheels
Shimano freewheel
Profile cranks
TNT retro blade 44
Éclat pedals ( temp )
Duro tyres
Wilkerson airlines San quentin bars
Jive grips
Nos Oddy Z77 seat
Nos meteorlite seat post
Nos fishbone levers
Nos fishbone pegs
Nos fishbone seatclamp
Acs rear calliper modded to fit front
Dc 990 rear
Nos Gyro2
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very nice :daumenhoch: (who else tried to click on the '4' in the title)?
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Looks sweet real nice :daumenhoch:
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looking S.A.F. Jammo .. ease themz bars up straight tho :daumenhoch:
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lovely
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looking S.A.F. Jammo .. ease themz bars up straight tho :daumenhoch:
yes mate I know, just ran out of tinker time, the bars aren't straight either!!!
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Nice.... get it weighed >:D
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Nice.... get it weighed >:D
34.5lbs :LolLolLolLol:
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Nice job. :4_17_5: :daumenhoch:
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Beautiful build Jay! Have you given her a sneaky blast around the block? :)
Really like it mate.....top stuff! :daumenhoch:
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Looks awesome. :daumenhoch:
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34.5lbs
and half that weigh is the pegs ;D
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34.5lbs
and half that weigh is the pegs ;D
youre not wrong
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New fat amber walls, the used skinny shopper tyres just weren't cutting the mustard
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Looks sweet, don't know how you can ride with your seat higher then the bars tho lol that looks you could hurt yourself!! :daumenhoch:
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Looks awesome Jay! Definitely better with the tans :daumenhoch:
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Looks sweet, don't know how you can ride with your seat higher then the bars tho lol that looks you could hurt yourself!! :daumenhoch:
ive yet to ride in all honesty, and currently the seat is that high because it lives hanging from the saddle on the shed roof if it was any lower then the bars hit the roof?
Still waiting for ten spare minutes to give it a blast as I currently have some chain alignment crunching going on and don't fancy snapping a chain during the hereford ride in a couple of weeks