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New School BMX 2004 - Now => New School Park, Street & Dirt => Topic started by: SaMAlex on April 02, 2013, 11:34 AM

Title: My new S&M ATF – Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 02, 2013, 11:34 AM
This bike isn’t fully finished (as you might spot) but its built enough to have a few visits to the skatepark on it so I should post up some pics. I’ll probably take some more details photos later on but for now I have got a couple of snaps of how it is.

I never put the brakes on a new build till last, and I know they are always a bit of a ball ache to get right so I took the bike for a pre-brake roll. I love brake tricks and I’m already missing Fu’s and Nosepicks but you don’t really need brakes at my local skatepark cos it’s a bowl with flowing hips and lines. I’m really enjoying having to go full speed at everything (I’m a sucker for scrubbing a bit of speed of, and then wishing I hadn’t) but the brakes will be on soon enough.


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/FullBuild2_zpse9e186a1.jpg)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/FullBuild3_zpsce25eb71.jpg)


Always Thankful For S&M

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/ATFSticker_zps91f51e29.jpg)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: nosepickben on April 02, 2013, 12:02 PM
Yes Alex, that looks grand. Nice touch with the stickers too.
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 02, 2013, 12:10 PM
Thanks. I wasnt too keen on the "Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms" name so I came up with my own.
And I don't like all the marijuana Leaf Shields about so I did my own Shield too.

Much more Me.  :daumenhoch:


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Headtube_zps04c62cbd.jpg)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: nosepickben on April 02, 2013, 12:32 PM
Ha ha! Good one. Needs a few scratches now to make it look used, and a front brake of course..!!
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: kev-s on April 02, 2013, 12:56 PM
looking good :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: fugazi on April 02, 2013, 02:40 PM
That looks spot on  :daumenhoch: Black 'n Red, I love Bikes that kind of look like Hot Rods  :smitten:
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 02, 2013, 02:45 PM
Black 'n Red, I love Bikes that kind of look like Hot Rods  :smitten:


Totally! I knew it was gunna be all black so chose to use a red stem. I wanted a few other things to be red, and started to look for tires with a red line (not red wall) but I really like the United tires, and the red wall looks way better than I was worried it might.
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: GavinDavis on April 02, 2013, 03:04 PM
That looks great! Nice one bud  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: Gish on April 02, 2013, 03:25 PM
That looks super sexy Alex  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on April 02, 2013, 04:15 PM


That's lush Alex, sure you ain't going brakeless and getting down with the kids ?
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 02, 2013, 04:20 PM
That's lush Alex, sure you ain't going brakeless and getting down with the kids ?

Yeah, doing my best Pete. You know how it is. I'll be slamming my seat next  ;)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: Mdbh on April 02, 2013, 05:34 PM
Very nice Alex! I must get myself a proper bike 1 day;)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: Betty on April 02, 2013, 06:57 PM
Looks great, brakeless bikes always look clean and uncluttered   :daumenhoch:


Thanks. I wasnt too keen on the "Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms" name so I came up with my own.


All Terrain Frame  ;)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: Mdbh on April 02, 2013, 07:31 PM
How are you going to get a brake on there Alex? Will the chain clear it?
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: garran on April 02, 2013, 08:05 PM
nice one mr l
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: oldtired on April 02, 2013, 09:24 PM
looks classy that, like it a lot  :daumenhoch:,


 how do you keep the chain tension with the captive dropouts?   built in tensioners? not clesar in the pics,        popeye arms the wheel nuts?  ;D ,   or are there spacers available?  mmmmmmmm opportunity for some lathing perhaps..... ;D
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 03, 2013, 08:36 AM
How are you going to get a brake on there Alex? Will the chain clear it?

I have offered up a brake and I think it'll fit. I always run a bit of off cut tyre on the top of the brake to stop the chain clattering, so it might well be running on the tire a little more than it has before  :-\. Im sure it'll be fine.



how do you keep the chain tension with the captive dropouts?   built in tensioners? not clesar in the pics,        popeye arms the wheel nuts?  ;D ,   or are there spacers available?  mmmmmmmm opportunity for some lathing perhaps..... ;D

I have a little something in mind. I was gunna drill and tap built in tensioner bolts but I didnt want to risk messing up the dropouts. Im getting something made, it should be done this week. I'll post up pics soon
(along with pics of how perfect the peg lines up with the back of the dropout  :smitten:)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: oldtired on April 03, 2013, 04:40 PM
cool looking forward to seeing that ,

done the same on my ns got to have some bits that you made on yer bike   :daumenhoch: , got a set of keyed washers on mine made from busted primo lolly pop tenstioners , fills the gap between the axle and the dropout so no movement forward , big blob o weld and 10 mins with the dremmel  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: jimwise68 on April 03, 2013, 04:44 PM
looks very nice in the second pic alex  :buck2:
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: trickydeno on April 04, 2013, 10:10 PM
Nice personalised build  :)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 08, 2013, 08:35 AM
I took a few more pics of my bike this weekend, now that a few more of the parts have come.
A new chain and a rear Hub guard.


Drive side. Wheel in the middle of the dropout, at about 13.75 rear end. (Ive not done the Chain tensioners yet)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/RearEnd1_zpsf21d40ca.jpg)



Non drive side. Oddy Hub guard and Animal Butcher pegs with Plastic Sleeve.
Im well happy how clean and flush it's all fitted together.  :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/RearEnd2_zps1bcb0667.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/RearEnd3_zpse18a697c.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/RearEnd4_zpsae57ce47.jpg)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: fugazi on April 08, 2013, 10:09 AM
That's all kinds of good, love it!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 09, 2013, 09:20 AM

More pics.


Enclosed dropout forks, non peg side.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Forks1_zps057e30b1.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Forks2_zps0f8b7c35.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Forks3_zps5cafc711.jpg)




Peg side, with Animal butcher peg and BSD hubguard (without the plastic cover on the hub guard).

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Forksp1_zpsa330bfee.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Forksp2_zpsec7c1ce5.jpg)



Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: pickle on April 09, 2013, 09:44 AM
those plastic sleaves aren't holding up well Alex  ???
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 09, 2013, 09:56 AM
those plastic sleaves aren't holding up well Alex  ???


I have been using them quite a bit, on concrete, but they dont last that long.
You can buy the plastic sleeves for about £5 so once you have rotated them to death, you pop on some new ones.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: nosepickben on April 09, 2013, 07:11 PM
That's great how it all came together so flush at the back Alex. Just noticed your pitchfork stickers too, nice touch.
Have you got brakes on it yet?
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 09, 2013, 10:09 PM
That's great how it all came together so flush at the back Alex. Just noticed your pitchfork stickers too, nice touch.
Have you got brakes on it yet?


Yeah, it all worked out real tidy. My forks only came with one sticker so I had to dig into the sticker box for the other side.

Nope, still brakeless. You dont need brakes to blast tables in my local bowl, and Im still lovin that.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – (sort of) Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 10, 2013, 08:57 AM
Yesterday I got the chain tensioners I designed. They are little wedges that sit between the axle and the dropout, and they have grub screws so they are adjustable. They work the Left and Ride dropouts, they fit under pegs, and stop the wheel moving forwards and backwards.


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Adjuster01_zps234ce63e.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Adjuster02_zpsdb20a5fe.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Adjuster03_zps97fe3004.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Adjuster04_zps7b09d3f8.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Adjuster05_zpsfe8147fd.jpg)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 25, 2013, 11:40 AM
Last night I fitted the rear brake. Its not fully sorted yet, I need to change the brake hanger. There isnt much room there so I need to try and find / make a really short one. For now I used an oddy one but I put it on backwards cos it fitted better (with the pinchbolt behind the straddle cable). Not perfect but it'll do for now.




(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/RearBrake_zps67d24753.jpg) (http://s147.photobucket.com/user/alexleech/media/ATF%202013/RearBrake_zps67d24753.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – Finished and Rolling
Post by: kev-s on April 25, 2013, 05:13 PM
alex why not machine up/use a part like this (part on the right) the centre piece of a 2into1 cable divider :daumenhoch:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/1003/escrs/DSC_08201_zpsa4bafc4d.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/escrs/media/DSC_08201_zpsa4bafc4d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – Finished and Rolling
Post by: oldtired on April 26, 2013, 10:43 PM
Those chain tensioners are the bomb Alex top stuff  :daumenhoch:   whats the verdict  on those united tires? was looking at em in my lbs ,      is them sticky innit ?   :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 29, 2013, 02:39 PM
 whats the verdict  on those united tires? was looking at em in my lbs ,      is them sticky innit ?   :LolLolLolLol:

Tires are great, I love um. So far they are great on Smooth concrete, dirt pump tracks and wooden ramps. All good  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – Finished and Rolling
Post by: SaMAlex on April 29, 2013, 02:42 PM
I sorted the brake hanger out. I cut a normal one down so it fitted.
Here's some pics of the full brake setup


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Pinchbolt_zps1bc5bfb6.jpg) (http://s147.photobucket.com/user/alexleech/media/ATF%202013/Pinchbolt_zps1bc5bfb6.jpg.html)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Brake1_zpsa35f4669.jpg) (http://s147.photobucket.com/user/alexleech/media/ATF%202013/Brake1_zpsa35f4669.jpg.html)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Brake3_zps5b408791.jpg) (http://s147.photobucket.com/user/alexleech/media/ATF%202013/Brake3_zps5b408791.jpg.html)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Brake2_zps5ecf58ea.jpg) (http://s147.photobucket.com/user/alexleech/media/ATF%202013/Brake2_zps5ecf58ea.jpg.html)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/r313/alexleech/ATF%202013/Brake4_zpsb05c582c.jpg) (http://s147.photobucket.com/user/alexleech/media/ATF%202013/Brake4_zpsb05c582c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My new S&M ATF – Finished and Rolling
Post by: MikeM on July 10, 2013, 11:41 PM
this thread is wicked sweet. love your work alex!
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