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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: OrgasmDonor on April 11, 2013, 09:39 AM
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Since i stopped building i have not contributed much to BMXy threads so heres an effort.
What parts, frames etc do you think are outstanding, quality, fit for purpose. Not necessarily what you would chose for a build but ones that you unbiasedly know are good and fookin quality. Although parts have evolved, this could cover a multitude of eras and comprise of parts you appreciated as the best at the time.
i'm not familiar with new school stuff so i have not included any in my list, but here goes
Landing Gears (BITD if your life depended on forks, i think these would have fit the bill)
Suntour clamp
Suntour freewheel
Tange beartrap II
Shimano DXs (i hate platform peds, but i can't argue with these)
GT early 90s dimple stem (pure strength and quality)
Revcore F/F (for geometry, quality n strength in a race frame what else came close?)
Elina lightening bolt seat
GT straight seatpost
pitbull I caliper
Tech 3 lever
Ami tri's/rounds (altho the very first run of sharp 1.11s with the soft compound took some beating)
7x's
suzue sealed L/F hubs
Comp II's (i know comp3's are the staple but i had a compII on the rear for years BITD n it never fookin wore out!)
VG seat guts (amazed other companies did rip these off, they are bombproof)
linear cables
Profile cranks (90s)
CW bars (not my cup of tea now, but had them BITD n be hard pushed to find stronger usable bars back then)
izumi's
profile c/wheels
just my opinion of outstanding bits, due to my shallowness, i dont or have never used some of them in favour of what i like but have an appreciation of them
feel free to disagree, enlighten n educate :daumenhoch: (new school insight would be awesome too :daumenhoch:)
whats bits do you consider as outstanding ???
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never included a freestyle frame coz i honestly dont know what was the strongest/best to ride :-\ (haro 84 sport???????)
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Super Pros
AD 990's
Skyway TA's
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Super Pros
doubt anybody could argue with that :daumenhoch:
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Ukai speedline rims (you could bash these around all day long and due to their double skin, they were hard as nails)
Suntour sealed hubs
Mathauser finned brake pads (stopped on a dime)
Tech 5 levers
Tange/Tioga SC-2 seat clamp
Kenda whitewall tyres (although they wore quickly, they gripped like fook, great tyre)
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Redline Brute Stems.
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brute stems n whitewall :daumenhoch:
i forgot to put in my list:
Kenda innertube :daumenhoch:
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Haro number plates.
Sharp Grip ends.
ODI Mushrooms
Pro Performers
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Gt Mallett stems (the first ones)
S&M Holmes frame
G-sport forks and hubs
Disagree about profile cranks, (cracked & snapped loads of arms, they seem to be made to poor tolerances these days too) Shimano DX pedals (must've broke a dozen of these) Pitbull brakes (weak) and AD990's (fiddly to set up)
Mtb u - brakes were better. Odyssey evolver is remarkably similar to Shimano Deore U - brake
Some Profile 'rings look nice, some really turn me off.
GT power series parts
Kool stop brake pads
Tech 77 levers. Classic.
Odyssey power paw grips
D.I.D Chains
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Suntour Stem :daumenhoch:
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Gt Mallett stems (the first ones)
S&M Holmes frame
G-sport forks and hubs
Disagree about profile cranks, (cracked & snapped loads of arms, they seem to be made to poor tolerances these days too) Shimano DX pedals (must've broke a dozen of these) Pitbull brakes (weak) and AD990's (fiddly to set up)
Mtb u - brakes were better. Odyssey evolver is remarkably similar to Shimano Deore U - brake
Some Profile 'rings look nice, some really turn me off.
GT power series parts
Kool stop brake pads
Tech 77 levers. Classic.
Odyssey power paw grips
D.I.D Chains
what cranks then? GT power series weren't up to it
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God knows... I'm no brutish rider, but i've broken everything i've ever had, DB turbos, profiles, redlines, shiitty one-piece (urgh)
Never owned GT ally cranks but seen a few get bent. All old school cranks were poo! Same as rims.
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From experience:
Recent Landing Gears - NO, bent some after a few very gentle nose bonks.
CW bars - not sure, I broke some bitd when I weighed a lot less. Could have been a bad pair though as my dad won loads of nationals and the Brits with them on his cruiser, and he was built like a truck in them days.
To add:
HUTCH STEM - a godsend, made them tiny bikes rideable for me bitd, strong, stiff :smitten:
LOCKON GRIPS - virtually no grips from bitd were up to the job, many felt nice but were not up to serious racing and jumping use. One pair that did work were some ODI ones I got about 89-90 that had a domed end, and built-in metal end cap. Looked a bit like this with a flange:
(http://www.odigrips.com/ProductImages/mtb_sp_attack.jpg)
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aye :daumenhoch: lock-on grips :daumenhoch:
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GT power series parts
what cranks then? GT power series weren't up to it
Yep, looked cool but were rubbish
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Redline Flight Cranks :4_17_5:
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Primo Hollowbites
Comp III's
Slam bars
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Always raced BITD never did freestyle so:
COMP III
ODI Mushrooms
Suntour Sealed Hubs
401's
Ecko Helmets
MKS Graphites
Renthal Bars
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BITD Tuff II's come on for freestyle we ALL wanted them :daumenhoch:
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Being desirable and or iconic, doesn't mean they're not shiit.
Good call with the hutch stems jon.
Gt epoch headset lasted me from '89 until the end of my 1" bikes in '96/'97
Peregrine 48's ...?
ACS boa brakes....?
It's difficult this, great thread.
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Gen 1 Phil wood hubs were silky smooth easy to maintain and tough.
SE power wings, super comfy and strong.
Vans shoes were grippy on most pedals too
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The title of this thread should be read by Brian Sewell...!
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BITD Tuff II's come on for freestyle we ALL wanted them :daumenhoch:
Tuff II's were pants Rob. Most of the guys I hung about with had problems with them, hubs crushing, coaster problems, cracking etc etc. Ukai's were the sought after wheels we wanted back then :daumenhoch:
along with Z's for the freestyle 'bend 'em, reshape 'em' thingy :D
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Not for us, we all wanted tuffs round our way.
They weren't without fault but we all wanted them.
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Here is my list.
Potts stem bolt.
Acs boa- the best calliper brake by far.
Ad990- although its fiddley it started off the change to u-brakes as a standard fitment.
Odyssey gyro- the first rotor that actually worked. Now most manufacturers use the same basic principle and cable system.
Peregrine super pros- excellent double walled rims from ukai laced up to sealed suzue hubs. A great wheel set that became the wheels to ride.
Gt mallet stem- certainly the best stem ever made by gt/sr.
Nankai freecoaster- unbelievably smooth hub that paved the way for freecoaster technology.
Tech 77 levers- probably the best levers ever made. And still going strong.
Redline flight cranks- great back in the day. And still great now.
Acs rl edge tyres- boy oh boy would I love to have a set of those bad boys.
Sst command seat post- very strong
Tioga beartrap 2 headset. The best headset for threaded forks.
Aheadset- I remember the first bike I had this set up on and I couldn't believe that an idea as simple as this hadn't really reached the mainstream market.
I'm sure I will think of some more.
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We're getting near a complete bike now. Who's going to build it.. ??
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Always raced BITD never did freestyle so:
COMP III
ODI Mushrooms
Suntour Sealed Hubs
401's
Ecko Helmets
MKS Graphites
Renthal Bars
great peds dude but in the wet they did not instil confidence, or is that just me :-\
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We're getting near a complete bike now. Who's going to build it.. ??
Thats it...lets vote on a F+F & every single component so we can build the 'Rad Dream Bike'...!
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Suntour XCII (already mentioned?)
KKT KM-X
KKT BM-X
All great pedals :daumenhoch:
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1-1/8" threadless forks, aheadset and external clamp stems - wtf were we all thinking with those 1" threaded fookin quill-stemed nightmares :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2:
(I have two sets of Odyssey Director forks and they are astonihingly strong yet only 860g - my favourite n/s part)
Sealed berings in everything - again, wtf were we doing with looseball hubs and BB's....... :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2:
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Ame tri,really nice after a few rides :)
suzue sealed hubs
suntour sealed hubs
powerlite bars
izumi chain
beartrap II
tnt stems
araya aeros
shimano dx
All great kit,not the most expensive,all apart from beartrap,tnt shafted stem would work well on N/S bikes :daumenhoch:
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great peds dude but in the wet they did not instil confidence, or is that just me :-\
I can 100% agree with that
Even with my NFL Pony Trainers :daumenhoch:
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Freeagent Limo frame set
SBC Motocross frame set
Super Pros
Profile cranks
DX Pedals
Tech 77 lever
Suzue hubs
Araya Aero rims
Redline BMX fork
Redline Flight Cranks
TNT stem
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Skyway TA. It was fooking solid. Wish I never sold it to buy some hash.
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s&m pitchforks and redneck stems :daumenhoch:
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Robinson bars
Redline flights
Phil wood hubs
DX pedals :daumenhoch:
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Original ODI longneck grips
S&M Slam bars
DC Tech 77 lever
Shimano DX pedals
GT 3pc cranks (profile made)
Profile sprockets
Most Araya rims
S&M Homes (MK1, 2, &3)
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:) Pivotal seats/posts.
Internal headsets
Having a bike where everything can be fitted/removed with a couple of allen keys
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ESP Stem (long reach no creak like Hutch and NO bar slip)
Redline Forklifter bars (supertough)
Beartrap 2 headsets
Hutch headlocks
Hutch Mag/Ti hubs (super smooth)
Ame Unitron grips
Araya Aero Rims (strongest rims till Super Pro came out)
Very much the spec of my last race bike in 86.
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Cassette hubs
Sealed bearings
Internal headsets
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Araya 7W rims bomb proof ^"^
Grippa Tyres :smitten:
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76' Webco Ultimate frame & Webco rectangular forks
my 1st cro-mo frame set.I raced this heavy & rode it even heavier in pools,street riding,lake jumps,cliff jumps,ghost riding,etc & kept this bike as a thrasher & abused it for years.
It only ever sustained a small crack in the smallest part of one side of the frame gusset.The forks were killer also & were fooking indestructable!
Lasted longer than any frameset to date!
Amazing F&F combo! Anyone got either or both for sale? :LolLolLolLol:
Haro number plates
Redline pro line v-bars
Powerwing bars
Mathauser finned brake shoes
Phil Wood hubs
D.I.D chains
Suntour MP1000's
Oakley grips & goggles
Shimano DX pedals & posts
DC twinbolt clamps
Grab on grips for those high to flat landings & having loadsa replacable parts.
Redline 401's
Kashi mx's
Redline Brute stems
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suzue sealed hubs , never needed any maintenance , wer'nt " fancy " but were cheap and they worked
kashimax aero , everyone had one admit it ;D
DX pedals - best pedal - everyone had them
DK stem - very strong and never slipped
comp III's - was there any other tyre in the 80's?
early GT santa ana pro bars , great shape and very light
redline 401's - have to admit never could afford these BITD
AME rounds , used these for years untill i went onto ODI longnecks
rims has got to be 7x's , had a few sets , not unbendable but tough enough
also late 80's GT race stem with dimples ( great stem - stiff and no slips )
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ODI longnecks
Shimano dx pedals
S&M Dirtbike/Holmes, a truly iconic 'do everything' frame
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Freeagent Limo frame set
SBC Motocross frame set
Super Pros
Profile cranks
DX Pedals
Tech 77 lever
Suzue hubs
Araya Aero rims
Redline BMX fork
Redline Flight Cranks
TNT stem
I've got most of that list on my Dirtbike :daumenhoch:
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Cant believe dx pedals are getting so many mentions...
Good call on the a'me unitrons and redneck stems too.
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Cant believe dx pedals are getting so many mentions...
Good call on the a'me unitrons and redneck stems too.
i never liked platform peds n always rode suntour beartraps but the DX had to be the best hardwearing ped out there ???
good call on the forklifter bars plinks :daumenhoch:
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DX pedals
Vans
Ame rounds
Ame unitrons
Oakley B1B's
401's
Araya 7X or Ukai for racing .
Araya Aero , really tough all round rim for street etc .
Tech 3 lever
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401's were the best cranks.
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401's were the best cranks.
+1 :daumenhoch:
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Mushrooms
Mks graphite pedals
Renthal bars
Clarks power glide cables
Araya 7x or araya aero
Aero seat