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Title: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Moza on April 15, 2013, 11:37 AM
Does anyone know where the thread is from ages ago regarding the changes to tuffs over the years ? Ive searched 11 pages in the search engine so far
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: MartyC on April 15, 2013, 11:40 AM
You need to go to Maurice Meyers website www.mauricemayer.com
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: Moza on April 15, 2013, 11:45 AM
You need to go to Maurice Meyers website www.mauricemayer.com

Thanks hes on my FB friends list so I might ask him lol. Ive got plastic hubbed tuffs on a bike ive just bought which I thought they were remakes. But ive had a set of remakes in the past and these are different. On the remakes there were plastic parts sticking out on the front hub and these dont have them, Im thinking they are 1985 full plastic hubbed tuffs.
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: ED209 on April 15, 2013, 11:58 AM
You need to go to Maurice Meyers website www.mauricemayer.com

www.mauricemeyer.net  :daumenhoch:

never been before ... wicked site!

http://mauricemeyer.net/cgi/mm.pl?datafile=../general/BMX.txt&page=BMX/History%20of%20Skyway%20Tuff%20Wheels
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: GavinDavis on April 15, 2013, 12:06 PM
You need to go to Maurice Meyers website www.mauricemayer.com

www.mauricemeyer.net  :daumenhoch:

never been before ... wicked site!

http://mauricemeyer.net/cgi/mm.pl?datafile=../general/BMX.txt&page=BMX/History%20of%20Skyway%20Tuff%20Wheels

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: MartyC on April 15, 2013, 12:58 PM
sorry spelt meyer with an a in the url...
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: pickle on April 15, 2013, 12:58 PM
He's a member on here as well  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: pickle on April 15, 2013, 01:15 PM
put up some pictures, you've probably got loose ball plastic hubbed 80's ones  :daumenhoch:

from memory......

late 70's-very early 80 Tuff II's had steel hubs
very early 80's - around 85 they had alloy hubs
mid 80's onwards plastic hubs (loose ball bearings, although you could get sealed bearing hop up kits)
re-issue around 2006 have sealed hubs with no reflector holes in them
new school tuffs from about 2009 onwards have sealed bearings with reflector holes

give or take a few options  :-\
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: pickle on April 15, 2013, 01:22 PM
Mid 80's you had some 50/50 crossover sets that ran alloy hubbed rear and plastic fronts.

Also they started to make them over here in the UK from about 85 and bolted on alloy hubs with coaster brake as they didn't have the rivet machines over here. these have made in UK stamped on them.

http://mauricemeyer.net/cgi/mm.pl?datafile=../general/BMX.txt&page=BMX/History of Skyway Tuff Wheels
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: ED209 on April 15, 2013, 01:33 PM
Mid 80's you had some 50/50 crossover sets that ran alloy hubbed rear and plastic fronts.

I've got a pair of those.
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: pickle on April 15, 2013, 01:45 PM
What with my black front??
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: Moza on April 16, 2013, 10:47 AM
(http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y371/MozaGT/robbo11_zps8f454575.jpg) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/MozaGT/media/robbo11_zps8f454575.jpg.html)

(http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y371/MozaGT/robbo8_zps744bd8b0.jpg) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/MozaGT/media/robbo8_zps744bd8b0.jpg.html)

(http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y371/MozaGT/robbo18_zpsc6331f8c.jpg) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/MozaGT/media/robbo18_zpsc6331f8c.jpg.html)

(http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y371/MozaGT/robbo17_zpsf193a727.jpg) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/MozaGT/media/robbo17_zpsf193a727.jpg.html)


Ive had a few pairs of new tuffs and all had an extra bit of plastic on the front hub, Ive fitted fake alloy hub covers to them before and the bit of plastic always stood out and you had to paint them siler to hide them. These dont have that and the guy reckons he got them off a lad who had them for years.
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Jaan on April 16, 2013, 10:58 AM
They're recent Skyways - i'd guess 2009  :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:

Feb 09 if I really had to put my money on it!!  :D
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: brummie on April 16, 2013, 11:00 AM
i dont think that skyway ever stopped producing black and white mate
they were looseball up to at least 2004. have a look at the spokes as they put a little date stamp on them somewhere ( think its a little circle with a year ) i have looseball sets made in 01 and 04
they re released coloured in 2006 sealed bearing
if they havent got a date stamp then they could be from very late 85 or 86 when the plastic rear hubs started appearing
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Moza on April 16, 2013, 11:10 AM
They're early plastic hub Skyways - Mid 80s, does the rear have the pronounced silver hub?

yes on the none drive side
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Moza on April 16, 2013, 11:13 AM
i dont think that skyway ever stopped producing black and white mate
they were looseball up to at least 2004. have a look at the spokes as they put a little date stamp on them somewhere ( think its a little circle with a year ) i have looseball sets made in 01 and 04
they re released coloured in 2006 sealed bearing
if they havent got a date stamp then they could be from very late 85 or 86 when the plastic rear hubs started appearing

They have no date stamps and appear to be sealed, I remember my new ones I bought having a hole in the spoke for a reflector
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Moza on April 16, 2013, 11:19 AM
ive had a proper look and found a circle with 2 09....im guessing Feb 2009 so they aint oldies lol Thanks for all the replies ive been educated :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Jaan on April 16, 2013, 11:26 AM
No wonder they're so bright!!!

Naughty for the seller of the wheels to say that he'd had them for "years" unless by that he meant more than one...
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: brummie on April 16, 2013, 11:31 AM
yep its a tell sign if they are used and advertised as early and being very white then check the spokes for dates
most people i have spoken too didnt realise they were dated from at least 2001
and being looseball up to at least 2004 as well its easy to buy these thinking they are mid 80's
even the sellers probably think they are mid 80's too
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Moza on April 16, 2013, 11:34 AM
No wonder they're so bright!!!

Naughty for the seller of the wheels to say that he'd had them for "years" unless by that he meant more than one...


Its fine they came on the Robinson i didnt buy them as oldies. The bike was a bargain anyway :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Moza on April 16, 2013, 11:35 AM
yep its a tell sign if they are used and advertised as early and being very white then check the spokes for dates
most people i have spoken too didnt realise they were dated from at least 2001
and being looseball up to at least 2004 as well its easy to buy these thinking they are mid 80's
even the sellers probably think they are mid 80's too


Its fine they came on the Robinson i didnt buy them as oldies. The bike was a bargain anyway :daumenhoch: i was planning on spoked wheels anyway. I can join these together and make a cool hosepipe reel  :2funny:
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Jaan on April 16, 2013, 12:06 PM
Stick em on the bay as loose ball - you're not lying  ;)
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Moza on April 16, 2013, 12:18 PM
Stick em on the bay as loose ball - you're not lying  ;)

they look sealed though
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: brummie on April 16, 2013, 12:22 PM
Stick em on the bay as loose ball - you're not lying  ;)

they look sealed though

would say they are if they 2009
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: dordymush on April 16, 2013, 12:25 PM
never knew that with the date on the spokes.
good tip dave the rave  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Moza on April 16, 2013, 12:30 PM
Stick em on the bay as loose ball - you're not lying  ;)

they look sealed though

would say they are if they 2009


That will be a very smooth hose pipe reel then  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs
Post by: ED209 on April 16, 2013, 01:07 PM
What with my black front??

no - got another pair... your one is holding up a shelf.
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: pickle on April 16, 2013, 01:16 PM
cool, for a moment i thought you might've been abusing it or something  ;D
Title: Re: Differences between tuffs / pictures now added
Post by: Jaan on April 16, 2013, 04:48 PM
Stick em on the bay as loose ball - you're not lying  ;)

they look sealed though

Of course you're right - I need to lay down.
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