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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: leehunt1 on May 15, 2013, 07:29 PM
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The haro build im doing requires original skyway graphites
with a suntour coaster brake fitted
Seen this on ebay, can this be fitted to the graphite or can parts of it be used..?
Wheels will have campy hubs
:daumenhoch:
(http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s561/leehunt1/T2eC16VkE9s4c7BRk8vPLSMg60_3_zps5064e686.jpg) (http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/leehunt1/media/T2eC16VkE9s4c7BRk8vPLSMg60_3_zps5064e686.jpg.html)
(http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s561/leehunt1/ScreenShot2013-05-11at154054_zps48394e4e.png) (http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/leehunt1/media/ScreenShot2013-05-11at154054_zps48394e4e.png.html)
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No. You may be able to use the guts though,on a Skyway specific Suntour Coaster hub (the ones with the four bolt through flanges)
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as above you need the one with the skyway flange center , i don'rt think you can strip it to put in a normal hub , they do come up regular
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as above you need the one with the skyway flange center , i don'rt think you can strip it to put in a normal hub , they do come up regular
so forget this one then glen ? :daumenhoch:
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ps the wheels will have campy hubs..!
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man think carefully before you destroy a gen 1 skyway graphite
how you getting on btw what you got so far??
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I'm not going to destroy anything lol
Well it's a log term build, I got rear tyre and freewheel
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I'm not going to destroy anything lol
Well it's a log term build, I got rear tyre and freewheel
You've got a freewheel for it
and you want a coaster for it
This is going to be interesting ???
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I'm not going to destroy anything lol
Well it's a log term build, I got rear tyre and freewheel
You've got a freewheel for it
and you want a coaster for it
This is going to be interesting ???
:LolLolLolLol: it's trade foder for something he needs.
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Can u tell I know nothing about coasters lol
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i don't know if it was possible to stick a (skyway/)suntour coaster {repair} kit in to a TuffII EVEN IF yours already WERE a suntour cassette style hub ..... we'd need pics
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I don't have the wheels yet
Just collecting smaller parts as I see them
So do I not use a freewheel with a coaster ?
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man dont worry, first thing sort yourself a f&f to get you going
not a freewheel a cog that normally comes with the coaster
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man dont worry, first thing sort yourself a f&f to get you going
not a freewheel a cog that normally comes with the coaster
I haven't got a spare grand at the moment
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i understand your not the only one good luck and shop around :daumenhoch:
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I don't have the wheels yet
Just collecting smaller parts as I see them
So do I not use a freewheel with a coaster ?
i believe not. Coasty on museum is pretty good with tuff-related question and he writes (2008) (http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=45065):
"You would have to cut the rear hub out and replace it with a coasterbrake hub. Theres always hubs on UK ebay." You will also see if there any of the beformentioned COASTER replacement kits available on the bay. If so, it might be possible ----MIGHT---- to convert a (suntour) freewheel cassette style hub into a coaster, using that.
campy hub .... guess thats the square metal flange ..... golden bling? :D Oh man.... you're on a quest :-X ;D, hang in there :daumenhoch:
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pics of HARO's hub might be of interest too (it's his 1983 title bike were talkin, right?) ...... who knows, maybe he's got something like a suntour flip-flop style coster sprocket in the end?!? ...... i believe there might be such a thing...? not quite sure. but if yes, there's still the question whether a 1983 Haro could have had it...... rather doubt it.
Dunno, when did the flip-flops start .....1985?
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this is a suntour flip-flop style sprocket (1 in pic happens to be freewheel and 14T) (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v521/fischflo/sk19sun14fw.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/fischflo/media/sk19sun14fw.jpg.html)
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i've got a spare nos suntour coaster. £150 if you want it ;)
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Think this is the boy i need
(http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s561/leehunt1/dscf7478_blowup_zps4b842404.jpg) (http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/leehunt1/media/dscf7478_blowup_zps4b842404.jpg.html)
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Pretty sure Bobs bike wouldn't have had a bolt in rear hub though.
And if you can't find a factory coaster graphite, would you really drill out a campy rear hub to fit one?, I know I wouldn't.
There isn't such a thing as a coaster flip flop hub, nearest you will get is an acs freewheel converter, which allows you to use as a standard coaster, or standard freewheel, fooking heavy, and you still need the coaster specific skyway hub. These were much later in the day too.
MM
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... idunno, maybe leehunt aint so wrong with his idea of "So do I not use a freewheel with a coaster ?" .... just might be straightforward thinking.
--- i mean, if its true that a "JB Adaptor kit" (coaster to freewheell) basically consists of only a replacement of just the "driver"-component of the hub (f.ex. http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=103895) ----- then why shouldn't it work to fit the ('equivalent') coaster parts of an extra (non graphite) suntour hub into the suntour freewheel hub of a nice set of (campy) graphites leehunt's wil have to look out for....?
Isn't it just a reversal of what you do when you convert a coaster into f/w using a kit ------ only now using a spare coaster wheel/hub as the (donor) "kit"?
That way he wouldnt have to destroy a set of square flange (= campy ?) graphites ------- (neglecting the problem of the 'goldeness' of the flanges here for a moment :crazy2:). ???
Guess i'm wrong, though. Just becasue there exists a kit that can adapt to a coaster hub and turn it into f/w doesn't necessarily mean that the coaster-specific driver components fit into a f/w hub, only because they're both suntour :crazy2:. But maybe it IS possible... i doubt it, though.
2) But how about this: just slap a Campy hub cap mod on a set of new graphites ...................??
3) What you seem to plan anyway:........ replace old f/w hub with an old suntour coaster hub ................... And then what... slap a Campy hub cap over it, or even replace the old flanges of the coaster hub? ......... hope you're lucky and find an old suntour coaster hub with SQUARE flanges (..... is there a difference between campy and just square...? I think yes, so chances are you'd have to replace flanges anyway )
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man dont worry, first thing sort yourself a f&f to get you going
not a freewheel a cog that normally comes with the coaster
I haven't got a spare grand at the moment
if you don't have a spare grand for the frame and forks, you're fooked for the campy graphites then :shocked:
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Camp grahipes with a coster will be the price of a small car :LolLolLolLol:
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note these don't have a coaster either
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-BMX-1981-SKYWAY-GRAPHITE-TUFF-WHEELS-1st-series-GENERATION-1-/190834484726?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6e9f25f6#ht_177wt_1399
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Was chatting to Steve this morning we recon your looking at £1500 for the wheels then there's the bars, the riveted shotgun seat f&f
Gonna be a 4-5k build :daumenhoch:
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Was chatting to Steve this morning we recon your looking at £1500 for the wheels then there's the bars, the riveted shotgun seat f&f
Gonna be a 4-5k build :daumenhoch:
plus a load of luck on finding the bits
they are out there
just people dont want to sell
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Just reading through this thread quickly, regardless of what you think of Lee, shouldn't you be guiding him to his end goal, helping him find the parts or giving him ideas of where he may be able to get them from ???
Instead, you are all just mocking him or throwing obstacles in his way :yahoo_silent:
I thought Rad was about community and help from others in the same hobby ???
Who gives a shIt Neil what it costs, if he builds it slowly over time, the cost will not be felt as hard.
Try helping instead of mocking, thats all this site seems to do at the moment ::)
Rant over :yahoo_silent:
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16'' :LolLolLolLol: ... is cheaper
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Terry I wasn't having ago just giving him an idea on costs very expensive bike to build properly
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Lee,
You will need a coaster specific rear Graphite, one that came with a coaster or you will drilling out the hub and replacing it. You cannot get hold of replacement campy hubbed coasters so you will be off the mark if you went that way and not a true replica.
Shop on the Museum too. The dollar is low meaning you get one and half pounds to the dollar at the moment. Even with shipping, it's far cheaper than buying in the UK.
Start PM'ing some of the regular members on there and they will put in the right direction for a lot of stuff. Beware though, as some think the UK is loaded with money and you will pay over the odds for stuff as some have already paved that path.
PM me your email address and I will give you some members usernames to get started okay :daumenhoch:
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not mocking at all, willing to help where I can have advised on some parts in another thread
ps I have a USED blue shotgun seat I would probaly part with, wouldnt be too much as it has some scuffs etc, but im ouf of UK so if you can wait a few weeks
also got the pedals you need blue, kkt ratraps
both of above you can find though
cheers
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new graphites on the bay ........ like $250 a set ...? and
you could get some Kool Caps here f.ex http://www.maidenusammp.com/ i find them very real-looking :shocked:; but you do the maths
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I have the wheels :daumenhoch:
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He has the wheels ! Quick !
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Im surprised there are comments in this thread...
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Cheers Terry :daumenhoch:
who wants a smacked bottom first..? I come home from work and your all fighting amongst yourselves :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Thanks for reminding me of the costs involved, Im fully aware of them, Im setting 2 or 3 years for this build so no rush
I thing the wheels and FF will be easy to get, Its some of the other smaller parts im concerned about
Im just doing research as and when things come up, Already had a conversation with chris and when he becomes my wife the wheels will be MINE...!!! ;D
I think BOB did just change the campy hub for a skyway coaster hub, or he got one of his mechanics to do it :crazy2:
Anyway onwards and upwards, you big bunch of GIRLS :D :daumenhoch:
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I think BOB did just change the campy hub for a skyway coaster hub, or he got one of his mechanics to do it :crazy2:
... ? :laugh:
old single graphite 1 day http://www.ebay.com/itm/Skyway-7x-20x1-75-Rear-Graphite-mag-Campy-hub-parts-no-axle-gold-anodized-/151044167779?pt=US_Wheels_Wheelsets&hash=item232aef1863#ht_130wt_1004
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new graphites on the bay ........ like $250 a set ...? and
you could get some Kool Caps here f.ex http://www.maidenusammp.com/ i find them very real-looking :shocked:; but you do the maths
Repop parts wont be going on this build :idiot2: :LolLolLolLol:
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Lee, this is a great thread from all angles. From the helpful comments, to the cynical and everything in between - it's a great read. I attempted to do a Hutch pro star build using as many genuine parts as possible, but finding an original crank and the costs involved put me off, and i'm not ashamed to admit it. It will now be between pro racer and pro star spec. The best of luck finding all the parts for this. I hope you can do it. :)
Back on the subject of skyways: Does anyone know the weight difference between a regular tuff wheel and a graphite one? Is it really that much? I have regular alloy hubbed tuffs on my T/A, and although I love them, they are bleedin heavy compared to the spoked wheels on my MT Fox and Peugeot - (both are araya/araya style alloy rims with suzue hubs & stainless steel spokes). Just wondering if skyway graphites do live up to the hype?... I know they were much stiffer, so less flex. Any other advantages?
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alloy freewheel were 2lbs 10 oz front and 2 lbs 11 oz rear, just couple of ounces heavier than graphites :daumenhoch:
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Cant comment on OS graphites as I never had any, I did have ally hubbed tuffs as a kid, but weighed about 5 stone, so flex didn't come into it.
In the last few years I have had a few pairs or new issue tuffs and now have a set of new graphites, weight wise, there is not much of a difference, but there is a good bit less flex in the graphites.
Love tuffs to look at, they are BMX to me, but they are not the best wheels for riding!!
and back on track.....
MM
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Thanks for info you two :)
Lee. Back over to you... :)
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I think BOB did just change the campy hub for a skyway coaster hub, or he got one of his mechanics to do it :crazy2:
Now this SOUNDS -..info from?- as if the bike you've in mind aren't 1st generation Graphites (="Campy" = Camagnolo, NOW i know it :crazy2:), rather a 2nd/later generation set with STAR shaped flanges ! ------- That would probably better your chances a bit (.. of finding an old coaster graphies set).
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yep campy= campag
even i knew that :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
If you look at the picture of the bike im building it looks like the rear graphite has just had the hub changed to a sun tour one
I may ask Dom to ask Bob..! :crazy2:
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here's a repair-rather complete rebuid- kit
2 days something (need to contact about shipping 2 uk) http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Suntour-Coaster-brake-Hub-COG-skyway-tuff-old-school-BMX-OGK-rebuild-kit-/261216764217?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cd1bb8139#ht_26wt_1242
.... resell if not needed...? ??? ..... would be cool to rebuild an old set of graphies....i mean these rebuild sets gotta be good for something, right? ;)
you know what? You should right an email to SKYWAY, and ask them if it was possible to transform an old graphy (rear freewheel or even front..) into a coaster suntour.
and if yes in which way: option 1) as i described (in reply#20): only the drive components 3) with one of these repair or rather REBUILD kits (different!).
and if NOT: what are the repair OR the rebuild kits good for in the first place .........? :daumenhoch:
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^^ Front coaster..! now that sounds interesting ;D
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I have a bid on that kit cheers :daumenhoch:
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;D
the riveting can be done on way or another
look f.ex here
-> http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=113259.msg1105156#msg1105156 or
-> http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=244347&p=1
the question is how do you get the flanges attached to the hub cylinder ------- i mean i cant see any flange at all on the rebuild kit i posted, or: on the rebuild kit YOU posted tere are two flanges attached to that "boy" as you called it ...... so how do you get that thing into the mag.....?!?!?!?!
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I think the re build kit is just the inner workings
i will need a donor coaster wheel to get the hub and flanges from
All this talk about flanges.. Ive got a Bonk on :P
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...still the inner working gotta be attached to the flanges
...still the boy you posted (with both flanges on it) needs to be insertable into the mag (so how do you get at least one flange off ....back on?)
...still the kit i posted (no flanges in sight) youre bidding on doesn't seem to have flanges (ooooo, flanges...).
obviously at least one flange has to be firmly attached to the cylinder ....... how else would that bloody wheel turn?
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What about getting an 80's rear tuff with a bolt on coaster and swapping that over. Or get a rear Acorn Freestyle and swipe the coaster off that and use the Skyway flanges?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/80s-Acorn-20-Mag-Wheels-Old-School-BMX-With-Coaster-Brake-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTk1/z/A7gAAOxyo4lRjSkZ/$(KGrHqZHJE0FF11PzSwvBRjSkZCzw!~~60_12.JPG)
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Hi just read through this and picked up on a few things. As far as I know coaster hubs used on Skyways need to be steel as shown in the replacement hub picture fitted to either a standard Tuff or a graphite. With the old rivits removed you have to twist the hub enough so that it's clear of the moulded plastic bits oinside the wheel and it should then come out, no need to remove the end plates.
Were Grapites ever available with coasters or were they specially made ?
Good luck with the build, you have to start somewhere, why not wheels !
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my god, he's right :shocked: ;D
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v521/fischflo/tuffWheelHub_removed_.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v521/fischflo/tuffHub_removed_coasty.jpg)
pics courtesy coasty and Maurice :crazy2:
well, IF a graphite mag has the same characteritics as a regular plastic one ...............then ................ it looks as if you should be able to get any old suntour coaster hub (from any ol tuff2) ...... "paint" it blue (anno or whatever goes..)...... and just POP IT IN YOUR GRAPHITE.
SteveG ....... thank god you've got eyes ! :daumenhoch:
http://www.rathergood.com/hedgehogs .... :laugh: flange
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Were Grapites ever available with coasters or were they specially made ?
.... :-\ good question !
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I'm no expert but wonder if graphites were aimed at racers so might not have ever been fitted with coaster hubs.
I think the freewheel hub shown above is a steel flanged one from a Tuff 2.
If you are going to do it then you need to find a really good way of re-producing the correct rivits to hold the hub in. If you don't then you might as well just use a standard tuff with a coaster already fitted.
Wonder what the guys who have already built replicas of Bob Haros bike have done ?
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Im enjoying this thread, its actually what we should be talking about on RAD :daumenhoch:
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I know a guy in OZ who has one of the original Skyway riveting machines and also original Campy hardware. I'm thinking of getting a red or blue set done with 2nd gen flanges.
Adam
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Get your $1000 out Lee...
Here are your campy hubbed Graphites :daumenhoch:
http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/93234#.UZZVvtjRV6I
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They're not the right wheels Terry!
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They're not the right wheels Terry!
Please explain chris..?
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They're not campy hubs. The seller listed the item incorrectly. They have skyway hubs
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They're not the right wheels TERRY!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v521/fischflo/mask2.jpg)
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They're not campy hubs. The seller listed the item incorrectly. They have skyway hubs
one of them would do me as it looks like im ripping out the rear campy hub :LolLolLolLol:
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Just been reading this thread on the museum and it looks like a freewheel does go with a coaster brake..??
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=459634&p=6
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yeah, you can pop a freecoaster on them - munny spoke about that, i mean about that heavy ACS kit.
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Don't forget to check out Maurice Meyer for Skyway info :daumenhoch:
http://mauricemeyer.net/cgi/mm.pl?page=BMX/index
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Gen 1s
(http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r604/J44NCG/BMX%20parts%20and%20decals%20etc/gen1campy_zps77f2653e.jpg) (http://s1174.photobucket.com/user/J44NCG/media/BMX%20parts%20and%20decals%20etc/gen1campy_zps77f2653e.jpg.html)
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You mean this Lee
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w495/Freestylerider/Kuwahara/2013-04-21160836_zpsbd07ee3a.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Freestylerider/media/Kuwahara/2013-04-21160836_zpsbd07ee3a.jpg.html)
It's an ACS freecoaster kit. Easy to install and easy to use :daumenhoch:
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w495/Freestylerider/Kuwahara/2013-04-21162350_zpsa3d40f45.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Freestylerider/media/Kuwahara/2013-04-21162350_zpsa3d40f45.jpg.html)
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Ahhh all is becoming clear now..
thanks chaps, now i need to work out exactly how Bob had his set up, could message that JT guy who built the bike on the museum
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... and it looks like a freewheel DOES GO with a coaster brake..??
I thought you wanted to turn a f/w into a coaster? As I see it, this kit won't help you with that, especially since you want it real deal.
Means: you need a spare wheel with a (suntour) COASTER hub inorder to IMPLANT that into a graphite.
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I know a guy in OZ who has one of the original Skyway riveting machines and also original Campy hardware. I'm thinking of getting a red or blue set done with 2nd gen flanges.
Adam
Do i have to send him the wheel or can it be done here in the uk by anyone..?
I dont fancy sending a £600 graphite to oz for someone to f@ck it right up.. :LolLolLolLol:
so this is the next conundrum how would i remove and replace the rivet thingys ?????? :crazy2:
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Just emaild JT on the museum
Hi Jeff
I need some advice on the build i am doing, its the same as one of your bikes
the haro freestyler BMX PLUS cover
heres my thread on here
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=509792
Im a member on www.radbmx.co.uk , and we have been discussing the rear wheel set up on the bike
wondering if you removed the campy hub from the rear graphite and fitted the sun tour coaster..?
or did you buy the wheel like this..? ie did skyway produce a graphite with a coaster..?
I have basically said that Bob Haro must have had the wheel modified like this..? is this correct
I hope you can help me with this part of the puzzle, and maybe future questions (hopefully not to many)
Many Thanks
Lee
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so this is the next conundrum how would i remove and replace the rivet thingys ?????? :crazy2:
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the riveting can be done on way or another
look f.ex here
-> http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=113259.msg1105156#msg1105156 or
-> http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=244347&p=1
...and i believe you shouldn't be afraid to send your mags to waza -- i'd rather only not count on it
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Just got a reply from another museum member jedi101
Regarding the coaster brake... I have two sets of white Tuffs in my Master build thread. The set with the metal flanges front, and rear, (84's used on the 85 Haro catalogue and Freestyler Magazine test bike) have the rear freewheel hub with Suntour freewheel. The other is a NOS 85 set with the rear Suntour coaster brake. It is fitted with a ACS Freecoaster Freewheel, in place of the fixed 16 tooth cog. The ACS Freecoaster allows you to have the option of a freewheel with just the turn of two screws. I don't believe the ACS freecoaster was available until the mid 80's, so it would never have been used on the Freestylers. The Graphite Tuffs used on Bob Haro's bikes were strictly Suntour coaster brake rear hubs, with no freewheel, and gold front Campy hubs. I hope this information helps. Please keep me posted on your progress, and I will follow your thread as well.
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So basically Lee, you need a first gen front campy hubbed graphite Tuff and a rear Suntour coaster hubbed graphite Tuff :)
So you will have to buy 2 sets of grahites then :D ;D
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No i will just change the rear hub on a set of campy graphites
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No i will just change the rear hub on a set of campy graphites
To be honest with you, I can't see anyone selling you a set knowing you are going to do that ???
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No i will just change the rear hub on a set of campy graphites
To be honest with you, I can't see anyone selling you a set knowing you are going to do that ???
surely its the only option ??
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fook that. Orphans around every once in a while.
You need:
(A) 1 'ordinary' suntour coaster tuff (non-graphite..... any colour will do) ,
(B) then one 2ndor later gen graphite --- like the one i posted the auction for (wel, we didn't know then ... that was Pre-Steve post ),
(C) then one foine shiney 1st generation (=Campy i thze strict sense).
A + B will mate and make the rear wheel of your future dream bike; C is its front wheel.
.... jesus christ, i'm relentless :LolLolLolLol:
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They wont be a matching pair of wheels tho.. DETAIL!!!
anyway i have just won a NOS skyway coaster repair kit on ebay
i just need the suntour hub and the correct flanges
God this thread :LolLolLolLol: will it ever end ;D
cheers F :daumenhoch:
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matching pair my arse - Bobs bike did't even have matching tyres :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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F@CK it i think we need to speak to Bob ;D
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You won a repair kit ;D
Got the brake discs, just need the car eh :D
I take it you have the frame and forks?
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i've got some really old 80's grease you can have, hey you gotta start somewhere right ???
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... I talked him into it .. now he's fooked ..:laugh:
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^^ :LolLolLolLol: ^^
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Mate - bargain right here, you should go for it :daumenhoch:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-BMX-1981-SKYWAY-GRAPHITE-TUFF-WHEELS-1st-series-GENERATION-1-/190834484726
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also a pair $1200 BIN or offer + shipping (for that you need to contact him) ..... check out .... campies !“Hairline cracks around hub areas” but who knows :-X
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No dosh yet, just buying smaller parts first :daumenhoch:
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also a pair $1200 BIN or offer + shipping (for that you need to contact him) ..... check out .... campies !“Hairline cracks around hub areas” but who knows :-X
Got a link?
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Found them http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Rare-Graphite-Skyway-Tuff-II-2-Wheels-Mags-Old-School-BMX-History-/200925977803?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item2ec81f1ccb
Better price but with cracks :-\
I remember Lamborghinikids going for $4400 :shocked:
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Found them http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Rare-Graphite-Skyway-Tuff-II-2-Wheels-Mags-Old-School-BMX-History-/200925977803?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item2ec81f1ccb
Better price but with cracks :-\
I tell you what Lee, you don't want to pass these up.
I can't see any cracks in those pics Chris??
**EDIT** I can now see a couple in the hub plate :-[
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NO MONEY ..!! WIFE AND ONE YEAR OLD TO FEED !!!! :daumenhoch:
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if its only one hub plate cracked it wouldn't matter.... as he needs only only one campy ..... oh dear . Just put her on a diet. :yahoo_silent:
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No Rush - slowly slowly catchy monkey :D
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I don't have time to read the whole 4 pages, but what the feck is it all about?
Can I buy some of your Gravy please :angel:
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NO MONEY ..!! WIFE AND ONE YEAR OLD TO FEED !!!! :daumenhoch:
You're building the wrong bike then!!
:LolLolLolLol:
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Found them http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Rare-Graphite-Skyway-Tuff-II-2-Wheels-Mags-Old-School-BMX-History-/200925977803?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item2ec81f1ccb
Better price but with cracks :-\
I remember Lamborghinikids going for $4400 :shocked:
Ignore Lamborghinikids prices, that's just a bit of money laundering through eBay.
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I don't have time to read the whole 4 pages, but what the feck is it all about?
Can I buy some of your Gravy please :angel:
its actually quite interesting if you can spare the time to read it Nick.. :daumenhoch:
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ehm.. http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=162890.msg1627359;topicseen#msg1627359
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NO MONEY ..!! WIFE AND ONE YEAR OLD TO FEED !!!! :daumenhoch:
You're building the wrong bike then!!
:LolLolLolLol:
in the wrong hobby more like :D
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No i will just change the rear hub on a set of campy graphites
If you actually do that, then that in itself deserves a life ban from any BMX related web site in the world! :idiot2:
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Bob started it :uglystupid2: :LolLolLolLol: ......flangecracks :smiley6600:
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So you don't think he just used a standard coaster tuff and campy graphite up front then?
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I don't know if there is such a thing as a standard coaster graphite Tuff. But maybe you're right - maybe he just used a run of the mill Zytec. You're the first to bring that up :daumenhoch:
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I didn't say graphite did i ;)
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Mine are staying put, couldn't let them go to be massacred :-\
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No i will just change the rear hub on a set of campy graphites
If you actually do that, then that in itself deserves a life ban from any BMX related web site in the world! :idiot2:
surely if this is what was done to the wheel and i am building a replica then needs must..?
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lets see if we can get this thread to 200 posts :LolLolLolLol:
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No i will just change the rear hub on a set of campy graphites
If you actually do that, then that in itself deserves a life ban from any BMX related web site in the world! :idiot2:
surely if this is what was done to the wheel and i am building a replica then needs must..?
Ask Dominic (PHIPPSIO) - he'll meet Haro in a couple of weeks at that presentation event of his new book (May 31st), so he could be asked what the deal's with the wheel. :coolsmiley:
:D
Or you just fly to Anaheim yourself (5 brand new Freestyler frames raffled there!) - ...you're his fan and want to have your bike exactly like his, and you need to ask him about his flange ...that should work ::)
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:bump:
giving this thread a kick as I still dont have the answer
short of speaking to Bob Haro himself
So do we reckon I need to butcher a graphite
remove the campy hub and fit a coaster brake..? I want this bike 100% so if needs be :daumenhoch:
appreciate some advice please
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So you don't think he just used a standard coaster tuff and campy graphite up front then?
good question :daumenhoch:
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So you don't think he just used a standard coaster tuff and campy graphite up front then?
good question :daumenhoch:
it looks like that in doms freestyle book :daumenhoch: