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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: midschooljon on July 11, 2013, 11:07 PM
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(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/challenger.jpg)
After years of searching I finally got one :smitten:
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Challenger?
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Challenger?
Indeed. :daumenhoch:
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more pics. looks a good un :)
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Welcome to the early Challenger club Jon :daumenhoch:
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Good stuff jon. Looking forward to seeing a challenger get the m.s.j. treatment.
Is it an XL..??
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:4_17_5:
Where did you manage to find it?
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very cool :D cant wait to see it all done!
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What I can see looks very nice. :daumenhoch:
Show us some more Jon. ;)
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Thanks guys. I'm really looking forward to getting stuck into this build but still need to hunt down a few bits for it. Gong to take my time so will probably be a little while before it gets built. As for how I found it, the previous owner heard I was after one and kindly got in touch to see if I was interested. Realy pleased with it.
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cool, welcome to the club :daumenhoch:
pro or xl?
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pro or xl?
XL :daumenhoch:
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msj it up :smitten:
finding the colour co-ordinated shutters for the photoshoot is always the hardest part... could just go for the 'prostitutes alley' again :D
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msj it up :smitten:
finding the colour co-ordinated shutters for the photoshoot is always the hardest part... could just go for the 'prostitutes alley' again :D
:LolLolLolLol:
Ive already booked tickets to this spot for the shoot.
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhO_-5dDrdZ1kLWFdnVnwJ8uAs9Cup6pUOaAEXauNbC3sWWFbQKA)
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Quick snap of the F+F for those who asked. Not much going to happen now as I need to get some other builds finished off first.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/challenger1.jpg)
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Really nice Jon! And is that a cheeky little Big Boy I spy there :daumenhoch:
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Quite possibly the best looking frame/forks ever :smitten:
Used to bring mine in the living room just to look at :-[
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Two words.
Blooming Wow :daumenhoch:
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Really nice Jon! And is that a cheeky little Big Boy I spy there :daumenhoch:
Yes it is. :daumenhoch: I never really had my eye on one but when that NOS black F+F popped up I decided to grab it. You don't see black ones very often and it was cheap so I couldn't resist. I plan to build it up at some point but need to find some black juice bars first.
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lovely f&f jon :daumenhoch:
has this come from colne
also are the decals original cos they look mintola :daumenhoch:
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lovely f&f jon :daumenhoch:
has this come from colne
also are the decals original cos they look mintola :daumenhoch:
I picked it up from Harrogate, but not sure where the previous owner lived. As for the decals they are rougher then the pic gives away, and the down tube has a 3 inch scuff on the right hand side. Even though they are clearly pretty old I don't think the are original. They are stuck on really skew so looks like they were replaced at some point.
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hope you gonna throw it together and bring it to MK as a rider for now :daumenhoch:
it will be good to catch up with you again dude :coolsmiley:
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hope you gonna throw it together and bring it to MK as a rider for now :daumenhoch:
it will be good to catch up with you again dude :coolsmiley:
Not sure if It will make it to MK, I have cleared out a lot of my spare stuff over the last 6 months so don't really have enough laying around to get it built. Will probably bring the Holmes though. :daumenhoch:
We definitely need to get a good Mid School camp going this year. Will be good to catch up with everyone.
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Really nice Jon! And is that a cheeky little Big Boy I spy there :daumenhoch:
Yes it is. :daumenhoch: I never really had my eye on one but when that NOS black F+F popped up I decided to grab it. You don't see black ones very often and it was cheap so I couldn't resist. I plan to build it up at some point but need to find some black juice bars first.
The black ones are lovely mate! And yeah the price was awesome!
Ive got some black juice bars but im using them on my Pork build :( ....has Jai got any more kicking around?
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Got a few bits together for the Challenger build.
Dancing man slams (still on the hunt for Challenger bars).
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/challenger-slam-bars.jpg)
Yellow ATI Pistol Grips.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/challenger_ati-pistol-pete-grips.jpg)
Black Redneck stem.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/challenger-redneck-stem.jpg)
And some NOS comp 3's
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/challenger_rainbow-tioga-comp-3.jpg)
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Can't wait to see this done :smitten:
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What Betty said :daumenhoch:
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Yeah yeah the same. I would love a go on it when its finished. I really like your builds jon, except that auburn. Im once bitten twice shy on them. :)
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Yeah yeah the same. I would love a go on it when its finished. I really like your builds jon, except that auburn. Im once bitten twice shy on them. :)
Auburn? I dont have an Auburn (Although I wish I did). :LolLolLolLol:
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Thats gonna be a lovely build there Jon :daumenhoch:
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Good stuff. Lovely F&F. :daumenhoch:
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Yeah yeah the same. I would love a go on it when its finished. I really like your builds jon, except that auburn. Im once bitten twice shy on them. :)
Auburn? I dont have an Auburn (Although I wish I did). :LolLolLolLol:
D'oh, there was an auburn lined up next to your bikes at MK and apart from a dubious choice of stem, it looked every inch a m.s.j. build.
Don't bother with one jon, the pre94 ones ride weird. Headangle too slack and bb too low.
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Yeah yeah the same. I would love a go on it when its finished. I really like your builds jon, except that auburn. Im once bitten twice shy on them. :)
Auburn? I dont have an Auburn (Although I wish I did). :LolLolLolLol:
D'oh, there was an auburn lined up next to your bikes at MK and apart from a dubious choice of stem, it looked every inch a m.s.j. build.
Don't bother with one jon, the pre94 ones ride weird. Headangle too slack and bb too low.
i've just dug mine back out as a rider, the very first thing you notice is the head angle, it feels like no other bike. Having said that, after an hour it felt awesome, really light front end, stiff and responsive. its rare i jump on a new bike and jump it but i did with this with no drama. i have 185 profiles on mine and bb height is not an issue. IMO it feels like it looks, different but in a good way :daumenhoch:
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Few more bits arrived today. PMC seat post clamp, S&M Piece O Pipe, GT Power Series Sprocket, and GT 3pc cranks.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/challenger-bits.jpg)
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Yeah yeah the same. I would love a go on it when its finished. I really like your builds jon, except that auburn. Im once bitten twice shy on them. :)
Auburn? I dont have an Auburn (Although I wish I did). :LolLolLolLol:
D'oh, there was an auburn lined up next to your bikes at MK and apart from a dubious choice of stem, it looked every inch a m.s.j. build.
Don't bother with one jon, the pre94 ones ride weird. Headangle too slack and bb too low.
i've just dug mine back out as a rider, the very first thing you notice is the head angle, it feels like no other bike. Having said that, after an hour it felt awesome, really light front end, stiff and responsive. its rare i jump on a new bike and jump it but i did with this with no drama. i have 185 profiles on mine and bb height is not an issue. IMO it feels like it looks, different but in a good way :daumenhoch:
The Auburn and the rider looked double mint on sunday :4_17_5:
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Few more bits arrived today. PMC seat post clamp, S&M Piece O Pipe, GT Power Series Sprocket, and GT 3pc cranks.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/challenger-bits.jpg)
nice bits :daumenhoch:
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Few more bits arrived today. PMC seat post clamp, S&M Piece O Pipe, GT Power Series Sprocket, and GT 3pc cranks.
Nice - that deffo a Piece O' Pipe? Only asking cos it looks like it's tapered at the top - should be just a flat cut off bit.
Always liked this PoP decal:
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/SnMPieceOPipe_zpsc31fec13.jpg~original)
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Its definitely a Piece O Pipe. Its flat on both ends (just a blurry pic), and is stamped S&M BKES. Think this is the one that came with the reissue Holmes kits.
That decal is awesome. :smitten:
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/sandmpieceopipe-e1378487101410.jpg)
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Its definitely a Piece O Pipe. Its flat on both ends (just a blurry pic), and is stamped S&M BKES. Think this is the one that came with the reissue Holmes kits.
That decal is awesome. :smitten:
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/sandmpieceopipe-e1378487101410.jpg)
Sa-weet :daumenhoch: Deffo one of the Holmes kits :)
Glad it is - got all worried as there's been a couple over in the US flogged as PoP's a while ago when they were just re-chromed cut off seat tubes with the Made in the US decal on em :)
How near to completing the build are you (ie some teaser pics please taken in prosser alley :LolLolLolLol: )
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Trying to sort out wheels and a white pitbull, then I should be ready to put it together. Finding a white pitbull is a fooking nightmare, and I cant bring myself to paint a black one as its just not the same. :LolLolLolLol:
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Yeah - don't come up all that often and when you do see em they never ship to the UK :LolLolLolLol:
You could try HBoost/Joe - looks like he's just re-signed up on here. Think he had one (but was a while ago) - worth an ask? What wheel set up you going for (if it's not to nosey), 36 low flange with the ever elusive Mistrals? Costa got some of them hard annodised one's the jammy sod :LolLolLolLol:
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Might give him a try as I really need one. :daumenhoch:
The wheels I want and the wheels I can get are 2 different things. :LolLolLolLol:
Would love some Crupi / JP / PMC hubs laced to 25mm Mistrals, but not having luck with that combo either.
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Finally got my hands on a white pitbull. :smitten:
Im just waiting for the pedals to arrive, and need to find a seat, and it will be finished.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/white-odyssey-pitbull.jpg)
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Good one jon. What wheels did you get for this bike.?
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Good one jon. What wheels did you get for this bike.?
Hey Ben
Im using the Kovachis that I had on the Cyclecraft.
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Good choice. Hope to see this bike in the "flesh" sometime.
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Satisfying when you get hold a part you been after for ages :daumenhoch:
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Getting any nearer to the finish on this Jon?
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Getting any nearer to the finish on this Jon?
Nearly there now. Still looking for a seat though. Would like to find a nice yellow turbo saddle, or a padded GT seat (pre drop nose) but there don't seem to be many about now that Im looking. :'(
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Hey Jon, did you find a seat yet.
Am really looking forward to seeing this one.
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Still looking. :-\ Its one of those times when you see them everywhere until you need one. :LolLolLolLol:
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yella turbo...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NOS-SELLE-ITALIA-BRIGHT-YELLOW-TURBO-GEL-SADDLE-BOXED-/390708078564?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NOS-Selle-Italia-Turbo-Triathlon-Saddle-Seat-Yellow-/301029075275?
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The final piece of the build is now on its way to me thanks to Gordy in Australia. :daumenhoch:
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/gt_pro_series_padded_saddle.jpg)
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Yesssss! Well done mate! You do get the tidy stuff!!
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Those seats don't come up often,in fact i don't think i've ever seen one for sale,nice one dude :daumenhoch:
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Ooh,,,got1 of them seats in shed,,,,,,not now though,,,,,,
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:slayer: looking great buddy! its inspired me to sort mine out but i cant find a proper seatpost for it. 22.2 primo rod or similar are almost impossible to find. ive got a slight layback on it at the moment but it just doesn't look right.
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Seat arrived this week and Im really pleased with it. I fitted it to the bike today and that means its now finished. :smitten: Will take some pics when the weather clears up.
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/challenger-gt-padded-seat.jpg)
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8) glad you got the GT seat in the end. Looks great.
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Can't wait for the finished pics :daumenhoch:
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Me too - come on Jon, stop being a big tease ;)
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Me too - come on Jon, stop being a big tease ;)
:LolLolLolLol: If I'm honest Dan I'm actually still hunting 2 decals for the number board. It's so close now I may as well just wait till I find them and take the pics once. :daumenhoch:
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Will take some pics when the weather clears up.
The sun's out tomorrow. :daumenhoch:
Well it's supposed to be. :-\
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Had a bit of spare time this afternoon so got round to taking some pics of the finished bike. I really enjoyed building this one but I am pleased it is finally done.
Full Spec:
Frame: 93 S&M Challenger XL
Forks: S&M Challenger (double thick dropouts)
Stem: DK square edge XXL
Headset: Tioga Beartrap II
Bars: S&M SLam bars (Dancing Man)
Grips: ATI Pistol Pete
Lever: DC Tech 77
Brakes: Odyssey Pitbull
Seat: GT Pro Series Padded
Seat Post: S&M Piece O Pipe
Seat clamp: Odyssey Pozi Stop
Cranks: GT Pro Series 180mm
Pedals: GT Power Series Double Trap (Sealed Bearing)
Sprocket: GT Power Series 43T
Chain: DID
Tyres: Tioga Competition 3 Rainbow Label
Rims: Araya RB17
Hubs: Kovachi 1st gen
Padset: S&M
Plate: UPG US Open 1993
Other: Ron'c headset wrap
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_side_view.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_front_3_4_a.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_rear_3_4_a.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_headset-ron-c.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_ati_pistol_grips.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_white_odyssey_pitbull.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_UGP-number-plate.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_gt_seat.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_kovachi-wheel-front.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_kovachi-wheel-back.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_gt-power-series-double-trap-pedals.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_gt-granks-sprocket-power-series.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_fdk_stem.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_front_close.jpg)
(http://www.sirmerlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SM_Challenger_93_xl_front_3_4_b.jpg)
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That's nice dude
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Awesome build Jon :daumenhoch:
Should be, took long enough :LolLolLolLol:
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looks spot on...
nice pictures ounce again ;)
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fooking brilliant :coolsmiley:
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Thanks folks. :daumenhoch: It definitely took longer to build then I anticipated, but Im glad it done now.
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Perfect in every way. Very well done Jon :daumenhoch:
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that's awesome :daumenhoch:
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Beautiful Bernie :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :4_17_5: :4_17_5:
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Thats lovely... :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
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not sure about the seat ???
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks guys. :daumenhoch:
not sure about the seat ???
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ed, what you see there is the finest seat to come out of the mid school era. No need to be unsure, it's a fact. :LolLolLolLol:
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Awesome build. :smitten:
Great pics. :daumenhoch:
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Proper that is .
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That's fabulous Jon. Perfect. I really like the kovachi's. One day they will be mine... :D
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Small update on the Challenger build. Thanks to Anthony I now finally have a set of Challenger bars on the bike.
(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/10953733_341831312689010_1704773229_n.jpg)