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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: OllyHall on August 05, 2013, 02:15 PM
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Hey guys I've had a frame stripped (it was dipped) not blasted and there isn't that cool rainbow colouring around the welds is there any way off getting this to show up? I've heard that you can heat the welds with a blow torch but not sure? This is what it looks like,
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/ollyhall1/1EDDCDD2-53B7-4C7D-9683-98386793FB1F-1802-000000F6FC547E77_zpsb0651f00.jpg)
I've not picked it up yet so havnt seen it close up yet any help will be cool thanks guys :daumenhoch:
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You can achieve the blueing with any decent plumbers torch though there is the possibility of weakening the frame if it has been tempered. Personally i think it looks pretty gash when people try a home job as they tend to get carried away and the localised blueing that would be achieved from the actual welding of the frame is usually smaller than people imagine.
why not just pick a paint / powder colour that aint the usual boring black or white :daumenhoch:
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Here is one for reference
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz167/THESCREWDIO/ASHURA%20BUILD/IMG_9433.jpg)
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How much heat will it need to do that? Will it need to glow red?
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leave it alone and go eat some more pies :daumenhoch:
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Mwha-ha-haaaaaaa ;D
Honest Olly, wouldn't bother - as Clint's said it looks poo (unless you've had a lot of practice) when it's not factory. Also it's real difficult to blue the hard to reach spots on the frame (between the top and down tube at the head tube).
Get some that gun blue stuff, that'll give you an all over blue'd look.
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You dont need to have it glowing red hot. You will see it blueing way before anthing goes red. You can get bluing paste as well which simply tarnishes the metal in a similar fashion.
How about a nice candy finish instead :LolLolLolLol:
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To be honest guys I'm piss poor at the min and wanted a change and this is costing me feck all and fancied and change from paint/powder can anyone show me a link to where I can get this blueing stuff from? Never heard of it before ... :daumenhoch:
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How about a soft polished or even brushed steel finish under clear coat? cheap as chips to do and wont look half as gash as the blueing :-X
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It's getting dropped off later so il take a look at the results of the stripping and have a think, if you could show me some pics of what your saying that would be cool, but I gota say I like the blueing lol;)
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Ok yours wont have lovely braised joints like this but you get the picture re. soft polishing :daumenhoch:
(http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/clockwork-brushed-steel-track-nahbs05.jpg)
Or how about splattering it with whatever paint you can lay your hands on :daumenhoch:
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb110/amores1904/IMG_3075.jpg)
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Ok had ago! And yes you 2 where right it looks shit! I'm gutted as I really want that raw look :(
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/ollyhall1/82C2B8CF-8703-4030-AFBF-ABB5A7422761-1802-0000014070117FE5_zps7a7610a6.jpg)
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/ollyhall1/94F887F5-8675-4A92-80DD-F0774F5DE5F2-1802-0000014076F31135_zpsa5867723.jpg)
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/ollyhall1/017AF57F-6A74-4E8D-9E9B-206B0DE25798-1802-000001407BD32992_zps7e0905b5.jpg)
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/ollyhall1/96EED951-3CB9-4492-9D1D-AFF321743C4A-1802-000001408253A6EF_zps700d8582.jpg)
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Do summit like this Olly, tis all the rage with the young un's at the mo:
http://www.chobimay.com/?p=1206
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Yeah if you know someone handy with a sharpie it can look ace, check this out :daumenhoch:
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=526969
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Do summit like this Olly, tis all the rage with the young un's at the mo:
http://www.chobimay.com/?p=1206
That's so 2010 Dan :-X
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stickerbomb >:D
get lots of pie stickers made ... very you
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I'm more of a burger man ed
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And answer your txts you rude pos! :LolLolLolLol:
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why not paint it a nice orange colour :LolLolLolLol:
you really do get bored easily!!!
that frames less than a year old :LolLolLolLol:
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Yes I do get bored quick but no need to get your shoulder out of joint you old slag
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shut it fatboy, shoulder is ok just the collarbone is no longer attached properly :LolLolLolLol:
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Do summit like this Olly, tis all the rage with the young un's at the mo:
http://www.chobimay.com/?p=1206
That's so 2010 Dan :-X
:LolLolLolLol: I'm in East Anglia - 2010 is approx 150 years in the furture here :D
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Your 1 2 talk gutsmen did you seperate it?
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gutsman!! ive lost nearly a stone in 3 weeks chubby cheeks :LolLolLolLol:
yeah ive damaged the ac joints ligaments, basically the same as what i done to my right shoulder around 4 years ago
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How man degrees of seperation?
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How man degrees of seperation?
What's a 'man degree' Olly? Is it how you judge if the bloke in front of you is a choice piece of ass?
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Your on fire this week Danny! The word I was looking for is many, these dam iPhones;)
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no idea just have a nice bump on my shoulder and around a 5cm gap between the bones, gotta go to the fracture clinic on Monday
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dam iPhone? that's all they are good for, plugging water leaks :LolLolLolLol:
(sent from my Sony Xperia z which can spell)
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They won't do nothing for it mate, I had the same well mine was 7 degrees
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i know they prob wont do anything (been through this before with my other shoulder 4 years ago)
but the separation is quite a big gap so they want to check it on monday as it's on the border of a level 3/level 4 separation (level 4 means surgery)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/1003/escrs/1002493_10153082790660161_332477413_n_zps0f8b1e7c.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/escrs/media/1002493_10153082790660161_332477413_n_zps0f8b1e7c.jpg.html)
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Well they didn't do it to mine and I wouldn't let them do it to you! I read online you can get a lot of problems with the op! Leave it alone!
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talk to Brian Simpson Kev...
Brian Simpson <brian@physioclinic.net>
got some good advice off him and Joanne Carlton when I did mine :daumenhoch:
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And answer your txts you rude pos! :LolLolLolLol:
tell vodafone not me ... :knuppel2: they deleted my account and I can't register for a new one >:(
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i know they prob wont do anything (been through this before with my other shoulder 4 years ago)
but the separation is quite a big gap so they want to check it on monday as it's on the border of a level 3/level 4 separation (level 4 means surgery)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/1003/escrs/1002493_10153082790660161_332477413_n_zps0f8b1e7c.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/escrs/media/1002493_10153082790660161_332477413_n_zps0f8b1e7c.jpg.html)
Kev, that picture looks like you're filming yourself having a cheaky jim squeeky ;D
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talk to Brian Simpson Kev...
Brian Simpson <brian@physioclinic.net>
got some good advice off him and Joanne Carlton when I did mine :daumenhoch:
ill be alright ed, been through this before, will wait to see what they say on monday and then go from there :daumenhoch:
pickle how do you know im not ;) ;) :2funny: :2funny:
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;D i'm secretly hoping that you are ;D
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Kev, I am soooo tempted to photoshop that piccy. Think along the lines of removing the phone and drawing a Bennett wishbone and conkers in there instead :LolLolLolLol:
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go for it :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :2funny: :2funny:
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Anyway this thread is not about Kev having a 5 knuckle shuffle so lets move on, in the light of day I've decided that I do like the blueing so going to keep it and I'm going to get a tranz colour over the top so will see how it pans out :daumenhoch:
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Aww Olly, all mature and that ;)
You gonna blue it a bit more? Looking at your pic if you chose a coloured candy coat the current blueing might not show up too well Olly.
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wire wool 002 then 000, shiny but dull then clear coat :daumenhoch: was the plan for this but things went off on a bit of a tangent as per usual with me :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ff98/jimjdld/bmx/burlish/1_zps94787ee0.jpg) (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/jimjdld/media/bmx/burlish/1_zps94787ee0.jpg.html)
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Ok had ago! And yes you 2 where right it looks shit! I'm gutted as I really want that raw look :(
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/ollyhall1/82C2B8CF-8703-4030-AFBF-ABB5A7422761-1802-0000014070117FE5_zps7a7610a6.jpg)
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/ollyhall1/94F887F5-8675-4A92-80DD-F0774F5DE5F2-1802-0000014076F31135_zpsa5867723.jpg)
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/ollyhall1/017AF57F-6A74-4E8D-9E9B-206B0DE25798-1802-000001407BD32992_zps7e0905b5.jpg)
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/ollyhall1/96EED951-3CB9-4492-9D1D-AFF321743C4A-1802-000001408253A6EF_zps700d8582.jpg)
It's not that far away, I think you need more heat probably need to use oxy-acetylene torch. Don't think I be doing it on a frame I was going to use because it's bound to affect the strength if you don't know what you're doing.
Someone suggested bluing earlier check this out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluing_%28steel%29#Hot_versus_cold_bluing
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I wet and dried the frame and gave it a bit more heat and I'm pretty happy with it now, ithink I'm going for a bronze,brown or copper tranz paint/clear coat so will see what happens :daumenhoch:
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All done and happy how it turned out, only cost me about £10
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/ollyhall1/FE0119C6-096C-47DD-9046-951033EF1F26-2045-00000104705E3D54_zps01bcbb6f.jpg)
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u431/ollyhall1/A9440078-36A4-4AD6-9FEC-5E6ABA214C17-2045-00000104758099EB_zps17e8abc8.jpg)
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That looks frickin awesome Ol! Luuurrrrv it long time! Did you coat it or not bother?
What seat you using?
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I know Im a bit late to this thread Olly, but if you spray the area with WD40 (or any light oil Id imagine) before you apply the heat it will give you the rainbow edges. :daumenhoch:
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Cheers gav and yes I gave a it a clear coat, and Jon I tried that but the oil burnt on the frame, so sanded it and heated it again I'm pretty happy with the results and at the end of the day it's only going to get battered! Like it should! :daumenhoch:
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Cheers gav and yes I gave a it a clear coat, and Jon I tried that but the oil burnt on the frame, so sanded it and heated it again I'm pretty happy with the results and at the end of the day it's only going to get battered! Like my ass! :daumenhoch:
;D :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
looks good :daumenhoch:
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:LolLolLolLol:
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Kev what's this fantasy world you live In with me being gay, do you wanna bum me? As the gay jokes are getting old? :daumenhoch: :LolLolLolLol:
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lol in your dreams fatboy
the gay jokes will never get old :LolLolLolLol: