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Title: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Bfellows on August 07, 2013, 10:39 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261260983954'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Help me out, real, repop, fake or just good quality nos?

Ta

Bert
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on August 07, 2013, 10:45 PM
Not sure where the serial is situated on the new re-issues but, that orange cloth seems to be located perfectly to hide a serial number.

Ask the seller what the serial is  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Howser on August 07, 2013, 10:51 PM
Does seem suspicious that out of the four places the frame sits on the table a cloth is put under the one corner with the serial number  :-\
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: PK.RIPPER on August 07, 2013, 10:55 PM
It's obviously not NOS as its obviously been built up but he still is selling it as new old stock ( brand new) so with that being a lie where do the lies end,  I would be very carefull.
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Jaan on August 07, 2013, 10:56 PM
He claims the serial is TLL which would make it September 83, it just looks too fresh for a 30 year old bike
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: PK.RIPPER on August 07, 2013, 10:58 PM
I would ask him where the serial number is located and what is it, why has he with held the full serial from the listing  :idiot2: as if it is a genuine gen one then there would be no reason to with hold the serial number.
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: PK.RIPPER on August 07, 2013, 10:58 PM
 ^"^If it is a genuine Haro item it will be a repop version.
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: griff on August 07, 2013, 11:02 PM
can't help being suspicious

an anniversary frame would be TT*****, you can also identify them by looking inside the BB (although would need a better pic)
you could always offer to pay in cash and collect (and make sure you have backup  :LolLolLolLol:)
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: billstup on August 07, 2013, 11:04 PM
Serial number is on the same side as the coaster brake anchor if I remember right  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Bfellows on August 07, 2013, 11:07 PM
Cheers all, it's making my arse twitch somewhat as it ticks the boxes on my wish list, but I'm not prepared to get shafted over best part of a grand........ I can wait ;) 

I've sent a message, it will be interesting to see if I get a reply?
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: leehunt1 on August 07, 2013, 11:14 PM
Its a 1983 Torker..
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: leehunt1 on August 07, 2013, 11:17 PM
In September 1982, Torker switched to a new system starting with three letters TZZ to TAA. Around this time, Torker also changed its product line, dropping or changing all previous models and/or names. For example, the L.P. was renamed the 280 and all mild steel models were eliminated. The SN system, however, remained the same, with the exception of the three first letters and that it started at the end of the alphabet rather than the beginning. For example: TRR 8122 = May 1983; the 8,122 frame in the model series; no letter for 280. Frame production numbers started over from “1” with “TZZ.”
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: PK.RIPPER on August 07, 2013, 11:26 PM
Just buy it and if it is a fake then open a miss described case through EBay and PayPal, PayPal will back you up and offer you a full refund as soon as you post the items back to the seller.
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: griff on August 07, 2013, 11:28 PM
just make sure you don't post a rusty crank back  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: PK.RIPPER on August 07, 2013, 11:29 PM
In September 1982, Torker switched to a new system starting with three letters TZZ to TAA. Around this time, Torker also changed its product line, dropping or changing all previous models and/or names. For example, the L.P. was renamed the 280 and all mild steel models were eliminated. The SN system, however, remained the same, with the exception of the three first letters and that it started at the end of the alphabet rather than the beginning. For example: TRR 8122 = May 1983; the 8,122 frame in the model series; no letter for 280. Frame production numbers started over from “1” with “TZZ.”

 He states that the serial number starts with TLL and ends with an F  ??? Why hide a good selling point.
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: PK.RIPPER on August 07, 2013, 11:31 PM
 :4_17_5:
just make sure you don't post a rusty crank back  :LolLolLolLol:

  :LolLolLolLol: No body is a dumb as that  :Aresehole:  :LolLolLolLol:  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: fischflo on August 07, 2013, 11:32 PM
^^ :yahoo_silent: ... fook me, could be legit.
Ask for a pic of serial and if it's like he states in the ad, i'd give it a go.
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: leehunt1 on August 07, 2013, 11:34 PM
I think he tried to sell it on here a while back but he got told it wasnt a haro gen 1
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: leehunt1 on August 07, 2013, 11:42 PM
No TLL in my list


ZT 019 F      Freestyler 1982  Lowest known serial number, provided by Chip @ C4 Labs
TUU 821 F    Freestyler February 1983
TTT 1029 F   Freestyler March 1983
TTT 1041 F   Freestyler March 1983
TSS 1105 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1118 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1141 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1163 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1235 F   Freestyler April 1983
TRR 1352 F   Freestyler May 1983
TRR 1354 F   Freestyler May 1983
TRR 1399 F   Freestyler May 1983
TQQ 1462 F   Freestyler June 1983
TQQ 1515 F   Freestyler June 1983
TPP 1748 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1749 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1828 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1829 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1784 F   Freestyler July 1983                   (Owner: flapjaqz)
TOO 1973 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 1990 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2009 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2033 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2090 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2130 F   Freestyler August 1983
TNN 2184 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2258 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2283 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2329 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2347 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2353 F   Freestyler September 1983
TSS 2357 F   Freestyler 1983                 
TNN 2366 F   Freestyler September 1983
TMM 2484 F  Freestyler October 1983
TMM 2527 F  Freestyler October 1983
TMM 2684 F  Freestyler October 1983
TKK 3050 F   Freestyler December 1983   
TKK 3124 F   Freestyler December 1983
TKK 3148 F   Freestyler December 1983
TKK 3216 F   Freestyler December 1983
TKK 3339 F   Freestyler December 1983
TJJ 3483 F   Freestyler January 1984
TII 3882 F   Freestyler February 1984
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: fischflo on August 07, 2013, 11:43 PM
lets see if he'll send pics :D -  maybe its rafi selling barry's frame  ;D
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Betty on August 07, 2013, 11:59 PM
The serial number in the ad would make it an 83 frame not a re issue i'd ask to see a pic of the serial number if i was gonna bid
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: oldschoolace on August 08, 2013, 12:01 AM
I'm no Haro expert Bert but that rag has my spider senses tingling  :LolLolLolLol:

Interested to see how this guy handles this  :)
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on August 08, 2013, 12:06 AM
He has a £609.99 reserve on it, if that helps  :)
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: dannyrobo on August 08, 2013, 12:07 AM
the serial number will be on the inside or the right rear drop out  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Jaan on August 08, 2013, 12:22 AM
the serial number will be on the inside or the right rear drop out  :daumenhoch:

You're right Dan, and I cant see one in that 3rd picture, can you?
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: dannyrobo on August 08, 2013, 12:43 AM
i didnt even think to look until i see someones comment about the orange rag ,does seem an odd place to put it
if he was bothered he would have put all 4 drop outs on rags  :-\
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: fischflo on August 08, 2013, 12:45 AM
right -no # in sight-, also an orange towel in front of the inside or the right drop out is a giveaway tale for seller will deliver  :-*  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: leehunt1 on August 08, 2013, 07:00 AM
i didnt even think to look until i see someones comment about the orange rag ,does seem an odd place to put it
if he was bothered he would have put all 4 drop outs on rags  :-\


Not that odd really, he has put it there to stop it falling over
makes it level with the side with the coaster rail  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: JimBowen on August 08, 2013, 09:30 AM
Dont think its a retro re-issue Frame as they have the serial number on the outside of the frame on the side with the costa .  ;)

Which he has pictured in the auction :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: pickle on August 08, 2013, 09:48 AM
Dont think its a retro re-issue Frame as they have the serial number on the outside of the frame on the side with the costa .  ;)

Which he has pictured in the auction :daumenhoch:

Yep, saw Jay's at the weekend and the serial number is on the outside of the left hand rear drop out
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: fischflo on August 08, 2013, 10:06 AM
i didnt even think to look until i see someones comment about the orange rag ,does seem an odd place to put it
if he was bothered he would have put all 4 drop outs on rags  :-\


Not that odd really, he has put it there to stop it falling over
makes it level with the side with the coaster rail  :daumenhoch:


...especially when there is infact a serial # on that drop.  :-[

 :yahoo_silent:   .......... (http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v521/fischflo/headbang.gif)
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: dannyrobo on August 08, 2013, 10:49 AM
it is real, ive messaged him and asked him,  the serial number is TLL 2738 F 
and he said the price is best offer over £1500  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: griff on August 08, 2013, 10:58 AM
maybe just me, but every time I see the words 'is it real' I hear them in dougie fresh's voice

happens with the words 'six minutes' as well

Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Stu70 on August 08, 2013, 11:00 AM
Haro registry shows plenty of TLL serial numbers..

http://www.harobmxcollector.com/registry/mark-2-us-made-freestyler/

Seems to be a Mark 2 Freestyler, frame 112.
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Dannywhac on August 08, 2013, 11:01 AM
maybe just me, but every time I see the words 'is it real' I hear them in dougie fresh's voice

happens with the words 'six minutes' as well

Or Ricks smooooth voice when I hear 'La di da di'  ;D
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: fischflo on August 08, 2013, 11:04 AM
TLL 2738 F   2738   Freestyler Gen 2   November   1983          (#44 in greentoad's list)

->http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,37679.msg393368.html#msg393368
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Jaan on August 08, 2013, 11:10 AM
No TLL in my list


ZT 019 F      Freestyler 1982  Lowest known serial number, provided by Chip @ C4 Labs
TUU 821 F    Freestyler February 1983
TTT 1029 F   Freestyler March 1983
TTT 1041 F   Freestyler March 1983
TSS 1105 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1118 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1141 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1163 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1235 F   Freestyler April 1983
TRR 1352 F   Freestyler May 1983
TRR 1354 F   Freestyler May 1983
TRR 1399 F   Freestyler May 1983
TQQ 1462 F   Freestyler June 1983
TQQ 1515 F   Freestyler June 1983
TPP 1748 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1749 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1828 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1829 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1784 F   Freestyler July 1983                   (Owner: flapjaqz)
TOO 1973 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 1990 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2009 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2033 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2090 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2130 F   Freestyler August 1983
TNN 2184 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2258 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2283 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2329 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2347 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2353 F   Freestyler September 1983
TSS 2357 F   Freestyler 1983                 
TNN 2366 F   Freestyler September 1983
TMM 2484 F  Freestyler October 1983
TMM 2527 F  Freestyler October 1983
TMM 2684 F  Freestyler October 1983
TKK 3050 F   Freestyler December 1983   
TKK 3124 F   Freestyler December 1983
TKK 3148 F   Freestyler December 1983
TKK 3216 F   Freestyler December 1983
TKK 3339 F   Freestyler December 1983
TJJ 3483 F   Freestyler January 1984
TII 3882 F   Freestyler February 1984

Heres an older one for your list Lee TT 015 F  :shocked:
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=225648
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: dannyrobo on August 08, 2013, 11:37 AM
TVV 636 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1982
2      TVV 654 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1982
3      TVV 655 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1982
4      TVV 689 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1982
5      TVV 765 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1982
6      TVV 779 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1982
7      TVV 796   F   Haro Freestyler Mark  2   December 1982
8      TVV 808 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1982
9      TVV 821 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1982
NEW      TVV 876 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1982
10      TVV 881 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1982
11      TTT 886 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   February 1983
12      TTT 966 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   February 1983
13      TTT 1028 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   February 1983
14      TTT 1029 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   February 1983
15      TTT 1033 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   February 1983
16      TTT 1041 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   February 1983
17      TSS 1079 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
18      TSS 1095 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
19      TSS 1105 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
20      TSS 1118 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
21      TSS 1127 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
22      TSS 1134 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
23      TSS 1138 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
24      TSS 1141 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
25      TSS 1156 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
26      TSS 1162 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
27      TSS 1163 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
28      TSS 1171 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
29      TSS 1178 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
30      TSS 1184 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
31      TSS 1189 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
32      TSS 1204 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
33      TSS 1213 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
34      TSS 1235 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   March 1983
35      TRR 1253 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   April 1983
36      TRR 1312 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   April 1983
37      TRR 1318 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   April 1983
38      TRR 1352 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   April 1983
39      TRR 1354 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   April 1983
40      TRR 1383 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   April 1983
41      TRR 1390 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   April 1983
42      TRR 1399 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   April 1983
43      TQQ 1462 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
44      TQQ 1515 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
45      TQQ 1537 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
46      TQQ 1591 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
47      TQQ1596 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
48      TQQ 1614 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
49      TQQ 1650 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
50      TQQ 1656 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
51      TQQ 1658 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
52      TQQ 1662 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
53      TQQ 1674 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
54      TQQ 1711 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
55      TQQ 1713 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
56      TQQ 1718 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   May 1983
57      TPP 1727 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
58      TPP 1748 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
59      TPP 1749 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
60      TPP 1784 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
61      TPP  1805 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
62      TPP 1808 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
63      TPP 1828 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
64      TPP 1872 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
65      TPP 1873 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
NEW      TPP 1881 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
66      TPP  1887 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
67      TPP 1892 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   June 1983
68      TOO  1955 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
69      TOO 1957 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
70      TOO 1973 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
71      TOO 1988 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
72      TOO 1990 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
73      TOO 2008 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
74      TOO 2009 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
75      TOO 2033 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
76      TOO 2045 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
77      TOO 2052 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
78      TOO 2090 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
79      TOO 2098 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
80      TOO 2104 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
81      TOO 2130 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   July 1983
82      TNN 2172 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
83      TNN 2184 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
84      TNN 2185 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
85      TNN 2189 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
86      TNN 2198 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
87      TNN 2223 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
88      TNN 2237 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
89      TNN 2253 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
90      TNN 2258 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
91      TNN 2283 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
92      TNN 2309 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
93      TNN 2329 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
94      TNN 2347 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
95      TNN 2348 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
96      TNN 2353 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
97      TNN 2355 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
98      TSS 2357 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2

August 1983
99      TNN 2366 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
100      TNN 2419 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   August 1983
101      TMM 2484 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   September 1983
102      TMM 2510 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   September 1983
103      TMM 2524 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   September 1983
104      TMM 2527 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   September 1983
105      TLL 2626 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   September 1983
106      TMM 2684 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   September 1983
107      TLL 2652 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   October 1983
108      TLL 2653 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   October 1983
109      TLL 2672 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   October 1983
110      TLL 2673F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   October 1983
111      TLL 2720 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   October 1983
112      TLL 2738 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   October 1983
113      TLL 2816 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   October 1983
114      TLL 2843 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   October 1983
115      TLL 2872 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   October 1983
116      TKK 2958 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
117      TKK 2971 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
NEW      TKK 3004 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
118      TKK 3006 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
119      TKK 3007 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
120      TKK 3010 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
121      TKK 3050 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
122       TKK 3052 F    Haro Freestyler Mark 2    November 1983
123      TKK 3114 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
124      TKK 3124 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
125      TKK 3126 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
126      TKK 3137 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
127      TKK 3144 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2

November 1983
128      TKK 3148 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
129      TKK 3207 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
130      TKK 3216 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
131      TKK 3233 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
132      TKK 3244 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
133      TKK 3331 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
134      TKK 3335 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
135      TKK 3339 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
136      TKK 3363 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
137      TKK 3383 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
138      TKK 3404 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   November 1983
139      TJJ 3439 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
140      TJJ 3446 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
141      TJJ 3480 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
142      TJJ 3483 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
143      TJJ 3550 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
144      TJJ 3551 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
145      TJJ 3571 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
146      TJJ 3573 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
147       TJJ 3574 F    Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
148      TJJ 3611 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
149       TJJ 3621 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
150      TJJ 3644 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
151      TJJ 3664 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   December 1983
152      TII 3711 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   January 1984
153      TII 3725 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   January 1984
154      TII 3729 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   January 1984
155      TII 3773 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   January 1984
156      TII 3806 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   January 1984
157      TII 3830 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   January 1984
158      TII 3882 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   January 1984
159      TKK 3052 F   Haro Freestyler Mark 2   Oddity MISTAMPED 1984
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: dannyrobo on August 08, 2013, 11:45 AM
No TLL in my list


ZT 019 F      Freestyler 1982  Lowest known serial number, provided by Chip @ C4 Labs
TUU 821 F    Freestyler February 1983
TTT 1029 F   Freestyler March 1983
TTT 1041 F   Freestyler March 1983
TSS 1105 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1118 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1141 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1163 F   Freestyler April 1983
TSS 1235 F   Freestyler April 1983
TRR 1352 F   Freestyler May 1983
TRR 1354 F   Freestyler May 1983
TRR 1399 F   Freestyler May 1983
TQQ 1462 F   Freestyler June 1983
TQQ 1515 F   Freestyler June 1983
TPP 1748 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1749 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1828 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1829 F   Freestyler July 1983
TPP 1784 F   Freestyler July 1983                   (Owner: flapjaqz)
TOO 1973 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 1990 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2009 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2033 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2090 F   Freestyler August 1983
TOO 2130 F   Freestyler August 1983
TNN 2184 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2258 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2283 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2329 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2347 F   Freestyler September 1983
TNN 2353 F   Freestyler September 1983
TSS 2357 F   Freestyler 1983                 
TNN 2366 F   Freestyler September 1983
TMM 2484 F  Freestyler October 1983
TMM 2527 F  Freestyler October 1983
TMM 2684 F  Freestyler October 1983
TKK 3050 F   Freestyler December 1983   
TKK 3124 F   Freestyler December 1983
TKK 3148 F   Freestyler December 1983
TKK 3216 F   Freestyler December 1983
TKK 3339 F   Freestyler December 1983
TJJ 3483 F   Freestyler January 1984
TII 3882 F   Freestyler February 1984

Heres an older one for your list Lee TT 015 F  :shocked:
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=225648

mines not in here  :-\ but its in the haro registry  :)  TOO 2052 F
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: fischflo on August 08, 2013, 12:21 PM
yup, #112 in the haro registry appears to be right, then -- i guess..?
(Stu's link above  http://www.harobmxcollector.com/registry/mark-2-us-made-freestyler/  )

 ... can't really tell, since Greentoad seems to be a major pro in this regard - with threads on vintage as well.  :-\ ... only a month difference anyway, so  ::), but anyway:

Makes me wonder how both sources get these infos on DATE in the 1st place anyway....  :shocked:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: leehunt1 on August 08, 2013, 12:23 PM
Thats because the ones in that list are Mark 2s like the one on ebay

Not true gen 1 haro freestylers..!
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: dannyrobo on August 08, 2013, 01:12 PM
Thats because the ones in that list are Mark 2s like the one on ebay

Not true gen 1 haro freestylers..!

are they not  :-\ i was alway told they was a haro freestyler gen 1 mark 2 ,thats what i was told of a big haro man on here  :-\
i am not sure though i just took his word  :)
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Mattdub on August 08, 2013, 01:34 PM

May be wrong but the term Gen 1 is/was used to describe the first incarnation of the Haro Freestyler frame/forks , ie before the Master/Sport/FST etc .
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Jaan on August 08, 2013, 01:45 PM
There were 2 generations of the Haro Freestyler but thats really details - both were commonly called a "Gen 1" as in pre-84 and the release of the Freestyler, Sport and FST as Matt has mentioned above.

I can confirm that the "Gen 1" listed on eBay is genuine and its serial is listed above in Dans list TLL 2738 F

By the look of the serial number, its certainly not new or NOS, its been restored and polished possibly even re-chromed... Yet still a sweet looking frame set.
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: fischflo on August 08, 2013, 01:54 PM
everybody repeat: From this day forth...

 :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: dannyrobo on August 08, 2013, 01:57 PM
excellent  :daumenhoch:
so that makes mine a gen 1 then ?
i hope so, ive got mine advertised as a gen 1 mark 2 freestyler  :)
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Jaan on August 08, 2013, 02:10 PM
excellent  :daumenhoch:
so that makes mine a gen 1 then ?
i hope so, ive got mine advertised as a gen 1 mark 2 freestyler  :)

Its definitely a BMX  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: leehunt1 on August 08, 2013, 02:16 PM
Your such a BIg Gay chris..!!  ;D
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: griff on August 08, 2013, 02:24 PM
maybe just me, but every time I see the words 'is it real' I hear them in dougie fresh's voice

happens with the words 'six minutes' as well

Or Ricks smooooth voice when I hear 'La di da di'  ;D

Ricky Ricky Ricky, can't you see?
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Bfellows on August 08, 2013, 02:45 PM
it is real, ive messaged him and asked him,  the serial number is TLL 2738 F 
and he said the price is best offer over £1500  :daumenhoch:

£1500.00.......... Its nice, but £1500!  I was about to have a moan about the last bike I spent £1500 quid on had upside down forks and an engine bolted to it........ then I opened the garage door  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Pooch on August 08, 2013, 02:50 PM
maybe just me, but every time I see the words 'is it real' I hear them in dougie fresh's voice

happens with the words 'six minutes' as well

Or Ricks smooooth voice when I hear 'La di da di'  ;D

Ricky Ricky Ricky, can't you see?(feat. Slick Rick)

[Slick Rick]
OK, party people in the house
You're about to witness something you've never witnessed before
Yes, it's the original human beat box, Doug E. Fresh
And his partner, the grand wizard, MC Ricky D, D
And that's me in the place to be
And we gonna show you how we do it for '85, kickin' live, alright
Because, um, I've got a funny feeling, um
you're all sick of all these crap rappers
Bitin' their rhymes because um they're back-stabbers
But when it comes to me and my friend Doug Fresh here
There is no competition 'cause we are the best, yeah
But let's impress which we prove
And ya all will realize that we are the move
So listen close so you all don't miss
As we go a little somethin' like this
Hit it

Ah yeah
You know what

La-Di-Da-Di
La-Di-Da-Di
La-Di
La-Di

You know what, yo peep this
La-Di-Da-Di, we likes to party
We don't cause trouble, we don't bother nobody, we're
Just some men thats on the mic
And when we rock up on the mic we rock the mic right
For all of y'all keepin y'all in health
Just to see ya smile and enjoy yourself
'Cause it's cool when ya cause a cozy conditioning
That we create, 'cause that's our mission
So listen to what we say
Because this type of shit, it happens everyday
I woke up around ten o' clock in the mornin'
I gave myself a stretch up, a mornin' yawnin'
Went to the bathroom to wash up
Had some soap on my face and my hand up on a cup
I said, um, mirror mirror on the wall
Who is the top choice of them all
There was a rubble dubble, five minutes it lasted
The mirror said you are you conceited bastard

Well that's true, thats why we never have no beef
So then I washed off the soap and brushed the gold teeth
Used Oil Of Olay 'cause my skin gets pale
And then I got the files for my fingernails
Chewed through the night and on my behalf
I put the bubbles in the tub so I could have a bubble bath
Clean, dry was my body and hair
I threw on my brand new Gucci underwear
For all the girls I might take home
I got the Johnson's Baby Powder and the Polo cologne
Fresh dressed like a million bucks
Threw on the bally shoes and the fly green socks
Stepped out my house stopped short, oh no
I went back in, I forgot my kangol
And then I dilly (dallied)
I ran though a (alley)
I bumped into my homegirl (Sally)
>From the (valley)
This is the girl plays hard to get so I said
Whats wrong 'cause she looked upset, she said
It's all because of you I'm feelin' sad and blue
You went away and now my life is filled with rainy days
I love you so, how much you'll never know
'Cause you took your love away from me
Now what was I to do, she's cryin' over me
And she was feelin' blue
I said, um, don't cry, dry your eye
Here comes your mother with those two little guys
Her mean mother stepped up, said to me hi
Looked Sally in the face and decked her in the eye
Punched her in the belly and stepped on her feet
Slammed the child on the hard concrete
The bitch was strong, the kids was gone
Something was wrong, I said what is goin' on
I tried to break it up, I said stop it, leave her
She said, if I can't have you, she can't either
She grabbed me closely by my socks
So I broke the hell out like I had the chicken pox, but
She gave chase; she caught up quick
She put a finger in the face of MC Rick
She said why don't you give me a play
So we can go cruisin' in my oj
And if you give me that OK
I'll give you all my love today
Ricky, Ricky, Ricky, can't you see
Somehow your words just hypnotize me
And I just love your jazzy ways, oh
MC Rick my love is here to stay
And on and on and on she kept on
The bitch been around before my mother's born
I said cheer up, I gave her a kiss
I said you can't have me, I'm too young for you miss
She says no you're not, then she starts cryin'
I says I'm nineteen, she said stop lyin'
I says I am, go ask my mother
And with your wrinkled pussy, I can't be your lover
To the tick tock ya don't stop
To the tick tick ya don't quit, hit it

(fades)


 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Jaan on August 08, 2013, 04:00 PM
What page is that ^^^ on the registry?
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Dannywhac on August 08, 2013, 04:11 PM
It's the fookin ace hidden page  ;D
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: griff on August 08, 2013, 04:38 PM
Pooch will you be wearing your furry Kangol at MK?
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: fischflo on August 08, 2013, 07:27 PM
it is real, ive messaged him and asked him,  the serial number is TLL 2738 F 
and he said the price is best offer over £1500  :daumenhoch:

£1500.00.......... Its nice, but £1500!  I was about to have a moan about the last bike I spent £1500 quid on had upside down forks and an engine bolted to it........ then I opened the garage door  :LolLolLolLol:

...and then? ....what happened then ? :laugh:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: PK.RIPPER on August 09, 2013, 12:01 AM
So the moral of this story is its genuine, is a gen 2 and its NOT NOS its refurbed and its not my old one :crazy2:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Bfellows on August 09, 2013, 12:16 AM
Glad we've cleared that up.........  :LolLolLolLol:

So to go sort of full circle, what's it really worth?  I don't mean what will people pay, but more what's the current going real word rate so to speak?
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: adammannering on August 09, 2013, 12:18 AM
have asked for a piccie of serial number / dropout and some history / background on the frame - still waiting.  its a sweet frame but at least  £1500 ???? that makes my dick itch.  my hunt goes on. 
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: dannyrobo on August 09, 2013, 01:02 AM
be better buying mine at £725 and getting it re chromed  :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: adammannering on August 09, 2013, 05:33 AM
be better buying mine at £725 and getting it re chromed  :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:

pls get in contact dannyrobo- very keen to have a look :D
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: billstup on August 09, 2013, 10:37 PM
I sold a re-chromed one a couple of years back for £850 I think  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: PK.RIPPER on August 13, 2013, 10:32 AM
Sold for £1,550  :D :D :D :D   I hope that nobody off here bought it as I think they will be disappointed when they open the box. That frame set was worth £950 may be £1,000 absolute tops NOS MY ARSE  :knuppel2:  :idiot2:
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: PK.RIPPER on August 13, 2013, 04:04 PM
I see that it's been relished again and has just over four days to go  :D just goes to show that shill bidding is stupid.
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: dannyrobo on August 13, 2013, 04:36 PM
i dont think it sold for £1550 i think he pulled it and re listed it ,if you look in his completed listings it was ended early  :-\
Title: Re: Is it real.......... eBay gen 1 (gen 2) haro freestyler.
Post by: Bfellows on August 13, 2013, 05:51 PM
He's also got a set of SE power wings and redline flights on the bay.......... I messaged him and asked how much for the lot, cash on collection with a hefty paypal deposit to secure - no answer! 
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