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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: skywayman on September 14, 2013, 05:57 PM
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I have had this a few years and know it was imported in from the States to the UK roughly 10 Years ago. I am very fond of this lid and intended to keep it.
However It has got to the point that either a BMX goes or this lid goes.
I am not sure of its worth but have had a few offers on it already but have always declined
I didn't want to now sell it or advertise it with out trying to get some authenticity on it as I believe it to be have previously owned by Mike Dominguez???
He was riding for Skyway in 1983 and the Helmet is also Dated 1983. The Skyway Design and Rider Lettering is consistent with pics I have seen of later helmets and sponsored gear. The Skyway Logo and the Name on the rear has all been pinstriped and then painted and then peeled off the way all the lids were done back then.
How many Skyway Sponsored riders were called Mike? Any information on this would be most appreciated. I have seen some Magazine covers with a similar hemlet but I just can not zoom in enough. The decals are all seem to be original apart from the Hotshot and the JT Racing ones which are original 80's Decals which I stuck on and would recommend taking off for more authenticity.
The Helmet this printed on the inner strap.
BMX 22
FEB 1983
ABADDON
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps9c3cf24d.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps9c3cf24d.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsbf0f2e16.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsbf0f2e16.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsab35c70a.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsab35c70a.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsd047a160.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsd047a160.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsfced1ee0.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsfced1ee0.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps26439e39.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps26439e39.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps562b936a.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps562b936a.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps0c728b51.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps0c728b51.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps1b4b7209.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps1b4b7209.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsc664b933.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsc664b933.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpseeb33efa.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpseeb33efa.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsbc633594.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsbc633594.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpscbe342a8.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpscbe342a8.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsda11e3ec.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsda11e3ec.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsebb9ec5a.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsebb9ec5a.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsa7726b76.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsa7726b76.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps54a18a74.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps54a18a74.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps374e75e8.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps374e75e8.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpse29ba96c.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpse29ba96c.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps4b778421.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps4b778421.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps01ebed78.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps01ebed78.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps1ecc79de.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps1ecc79de.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps6ee93272.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps6ee93272.jpg.html)
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Nice That :daumenhoch:
Hope it is what u think it is Steph :4_17_5:
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Nice...... :smitten:
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Mike Salido , 17 expert 1983 world champion?
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll167/glynn9371/SKYWAY%20TA/SKYWAY%20TA%20XL%20PROJECT/SkywayAddfromBMXA_8408.jpg)
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Another possibility.
Thanks :4_17_5:
Nice one Glyn :daumenhoch:
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Is it not mike cannings ?
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Is it not mike cannings ?
Could be but I thought he was more like 85/86 onwards?
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This is 86 But it has Skyway in big letters on rear.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps6d4bb499.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps6d4bb499.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsf4f1e4d3.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsf4f1e4d3.jpg.html)
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Damn cool helmet! :daumenhoch:
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Very nice :coolsmiley:
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8)
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Just been chatting to Mike Canning On Facebook chat and its definitely not one of his and he seems to think its earlier too and has suggested taking to Darren Woods!!!
I am determined to find out who's lid this is :LolLolLolLol:
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I am determined to find out who's lid this is :LolLolLolLol:
Its Mikes ! :crazy2:
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Now chatting with Darren Woods and he thinks its Mike Salidos :)
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Just been chatting to Mike Canning On Facebook chat and its definitely not one of his and he seems to think its earlier too and has suggested taking to Darren Woods!!!
I am determined to find out who's lid this is :LolLolLolLol:
Do you know woody on Facebook ? If you don't I'll send him the pics
Also put pics on the museum
I've got a feeling it could be mike Dominguez ,be worth asking Dom
Class helmet by the way :daumenhoch:
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Just been chatting to Mike Canning On Facebook chat and its definitely not one of his and he seems to think its earlier too and has suggested taking to Darren Woods!!!
I am determined to find out who's lid this is :LolLolLolLol:
Do you know woody on Facebook ? If you don't I'll send him the pics
Also put pics on the museum
I've got a feeling it could be mike Dominguez ,be worth asking Dom
Class helmet by the way :daumenhoch:
Thanks Neil, I dont know him but have just been chatting to him on messenger :daumenhoch: Nice guy. He thought it might be Salidos as he was here in 83 on European tour and hr thinks he remembers him riding open faced lids like that.
I have put them oit museum already and haven't had much response, I have also put it on OZBMX too with little response. Prob wrong sort of time across the ponds :D
I also contacted Mike Domiguez too :LolLolLolLol: I am waiting for Salido and then I should have it nailed down!!!
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/724C6AF9-1F75-4F0A-972F-7953A64FCB9B-313-00000025AC2EF589_zps86214a2e.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/724C6AF9-1F75-4F0A-972F-7953A64FCB9B-313-00000025AC2EF589_zps86214a2e.jpg.html)
I have put them oit museum already and haven't had much response, I have also put it on OZBMX too with little response. Prob wrong sort of time across the ponds :D
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I put my money on Mr Salido, if it was Mike Dominguez helmet he would have had his surname on it as well not just Mike.
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I put my money on Mr Salido, if it was Mike Dominguez helmet he would have had his surname on it as well not just Mike.
It looks like it Might be Mike Salidos
I am yet to see someones surname on a helmet? What makes you think Mike Dominguez would be the only one to have his surname ?
This is him riding in 1983 with just his first name on the lid
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsdc2f040e.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsdc2f040e.jpg.html)
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This Is Andy Patterson on the right wearing an Identical lid.
If you look closely you can see the Same JT Decal in the same place as mine so i am guessing this lid is def from the same season as one he raced in
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsad662ef5.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsad662ef5.jpg.html)
I have just been chatting to Mike Salido on Facebook messenger and It appears its not his lid either .... Both Mike Canning and Darren Woods have both said that Mike Dominguez did not ride for Skyway so It looks like there is some duff information on the web relating to this!!! :-\
The last person to come back to me is Dominguez himself which looking at his page he doesn't use very often. Does anyone have any links to him?
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Now chatting with Darren Woods and he thinks its Mike Salidos :)
There is no 's', it is Darren Wood not Woods ;)
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Now chatting with Darren Woods and he thinks its Mike Salidos :)
There is no 's', it is Darren Wood not Woods ;)
So sorry about that. ;)
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:LolLolLolLol:
Oh ...... and perhaps far more importantly, nice research by the way :daumenhoch:
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:LolLolLolLol:
Oh ...... and perhaps far more importantly, nice research by the way :daumenhoch:
I know mate its jarring me..... Contacted 4 Old School Legends Via Facebook and talked to 3 of them in facebook chat in the space of 8 hours!!!
Have a couple more pics of Mike Salido with "similar" Helmets on
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps51597d5a.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps51597d5a.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsce545b5f.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsce545b5f.jpg.html)
Weirdly enough I have the same Mouthguard as that that came with it that is in two of the above pics "wantit" It couldnt be any more like the One Any Patterson is wearing
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps95be5e24.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps95be5e24.jpg.html)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps3c71f4e3.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps3c71f4e3.jpg.html)
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The bikes are cool but collecting an ex pro's kit/bike is the best part of this whole hobby for me. Hope it's what you think it is :daumenhoch:
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The bikes are cool but collecting an ex pro's kit/bike is the best part of this whole hobby for me. Hope it's what you think it is :daumenhoch:
You sound like you have experience in this sort of stuff. How do you price/value something like this?
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Lovin this :smitten: :daumenhoch:
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The bikes are cool but collecting an ex pro's kit/bike is the best part of this whole hobby for me. Hope it's what you think it is :daumenhoch:
You sound like you have experience in this sort of stuff. How do you price/value something like this?
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I have a pretty decent collection of kit that I've sourced over the years. First thing is knowing the seller it came from and seeing if they can provide any info on it, next up do what your doing and ask ask ask ask and then ask some more. The value always depends on if it was used in a race/comp or it was one of his stock. Then put out some feelers and see who may be interested in this, hunt down the big skyway collectors 'I have a contact in oz' and approach them, dangle the carrot a little.
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,139506.0.html
These are a few of the things I have/had, plus The OMs Floval and race kit and some other stuff.
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OMG mr funky you have had some lovely bits.... :4_17_5:
... the skyway tops look fantastic :daumenhoch:
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Just a small sample :daumenhoch:
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Nice lid Steff, so how much is it?
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This sounds like a BMX Cinderella story
Just line them all up and get them to try on the helmet
Whoever it fits, that's the man you should marry :teef:
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I'm pretty sure he didn't ride for skyway.
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I'm pretty sure he didn't ride for skyway.
On what are you basing this ? Your memory ? Research ? My previous comments from Woody and Mike Canning?
I am only going on this article from Maurice Meyer and This article on 23mag.com (http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/0E432E88-41D0-4C1A-ACCC-5DE2A709E41E-2395-000001C6C7FBAD0B_zps62d2d6d1.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/0E432E88-41D0-4C1A-ACCC-5DE2A709E41E-2395-000001C6C7FBAD0B_zps62d2d6d1.jpg.html)
Link to article on Maurice Meyer
http://www.mauricemeyer.net/curb_dogs/sponsored.html
Quote From article
Skyway had been sponsoring top riders (Bob Haro, RL Osborn, Mike Buff, Eddie Fiola, Mike Dominguez, Ron Wilton, etc.) with their Tuff Wheels and was looking to build a factory team for shows and competitions. They also wanted to build a freestyle only frame and fork and other freestyle products. Lucky for us they wanted some guys closer to the factory in northern California. We were in the right place at the right time and stoked big-time!
I am pretty sure it is Mike Salido's but he doesn't recognise it, this piccy looks just like it with same peak and mouth guard. So if its not his that leaves Mike Buff or Mike Domiguez :-\
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpse85dd992.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpse85dd992.jpg.html)
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I'm pretty sure he didn't ride for skyway.
:idiot2: :crazy2:
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The cover of BMX Plus January 84 shows Mike Dominguez as a Vans/Skyway rider on a Skyway TA.
http://oldschoolmags.com/bmx_plus.html
Few more pics inside but difficult to see the helmet he's wearing clearly.
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The cover of BMX Plus January 84 shows Mike Dominguez as a Vans/Skyway rider on a Skyway TA.
http://oldschoolmags.com/bmx_plus.html
Few more pics inside but difficult to see the helmet he's wearing clearly.
Thanks buddy I saw that one :daumenhoch:
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I have been researching this for days now including talking on facebook to 3 skyway legends :D
I had been throwing myself off the track by the fact that it didn't have the huge skyway lettering on the back..... well upon closer inspection (its quite obvious now) I can see the gum lines of the skyway decal lettering that used to be there.
It wasn't obvious at first because I had wrongly assumed that the large white lettering on the back would have been done the same way as the front by masking and painting overt he top etc...... see piccy below where you can clearly see where the K meets the Y
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps625e48f0.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps625e48f0.jpg.html)
I started looking at other riders lids that had been sponsored by skyway in 1983 and came across this piccy of Andy Patterson wearing an identical helmet and Mouth guard, which is the same helmet we see him wearing here on the 50th ann box where you can also see the identical huge Black and white JT decal on the front.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps12c065ab.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zps12c065ab.jpg.html)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/8e5bd72a-68d1-431d-b424-fcddf4da833a_zpsfb367d00.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/8e5bd72a-68d1-431d-b424-fcddf4da833a_zpsfb367d00.jpg.html)
It is starting to look more and more like this did actually belong to Mike Salido (he prob didn't recognise it without the huge skyway logo on the rear) as here is a pic of him in 1983 in a world championship race wearing an identical skyway helmet, now this next part is kinda sketchy and coincidental but It looks from the pics that riders could put what they liked on the peak of the helmet and judging by the below pic Mike liked ZeroNine as you can see a ZeroNine decal on his peak. There also appears to be a paint chip/scuff on his helmet in the same place as on mine. :shocked:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsebec6d8e.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsebec6d8e.jpg.html)(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx268/skywayman/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsa7726b76.jpg) (http://s762.photobucket.com/user/skywayman/media/1983%20Skyway%20Helmet/file_zpsa7726b76.jpg.html)
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Not sure how much this adds but... - Abaddon Products Company (Helmet Manufacturer) seems to have gone out of business a long time ago - mainly because of helmet recalls in the late 70s early 80s!!
The date is the date of manufacture (obviously), the BMX refers to it being a BMX helmet (as Abaddon made all sorts of helmets) and 22 is the size in inches (medium).
Have you tried contacting Skyway to ask them? I have had great success talking to them in the past about tuff pedals and the like - seem like a good bunch...!
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Not sure how much this adds but... - Abaddon Products Company (Helmet Manufacturer) seems to have gone out of business a long time ago - mainly because of helmet recalls in the late 70s early 80s!!
The date is the date of manufacture (obviously), the BMX refers to it being a BMX helmet (as Abaddon made all sorts of helmets) and 22 is the size in inches (medium).
Have you tried contacting Skyway to ask them? I have had great success talking to them in the past about tuff pedals and the like - seem like a good bunch...!
Nice one for that buddy. I had thought about sticking it on the Skyway facebook page as I have been a member on there for some time and seeing if it jogss anyones memory "bump" I like the 22 bit that may even help jog Mike Silado's ;)
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Great detective work, looks like it could well be Mike Salido's :daumenhoch:
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A proper BMX thread :4_17_5:
Do carry on the good work :daumenhoch:
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A proper BMX thread :4_17_5:
Do carry on the good work :daumenhoch:
x 2 Love this :daumenhoch:
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loving this thread too. A real piece of bmx history there. VERY jealous!
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Great thread & detective work, looks like the odd changes over the years have thrown things off a bit but that nik sure looks like a good I'd point.
The snip from the article seems to indicate Dominguez rode for skyway in the guise of them been a parts sponsor prior to them getting a freestyle team together. A little like Henderson & Bottema rode for skyway, pro neck, bell & oakley whilst representing team raleigh.
(Haven't had chance to read the full thing though on my phone)
Maybe this was what woody meant when he said he didn't ride for skyway?
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Great thread & detective work, looks like the odd changes over the years have thrown things off a bit but that nik sure looks like a good I'd point.
The snip from the article seems to indicate Dominguez rode for skyway in the guise of them been a parts sponsor prior to them getting a freestyle team together. A little like Henderson & Bottema rode for skyway, pro neck, bell & oakley whilst representing team raleigh.
(Haven't had chance to read the full thing though on my phone)
Maybe this was what woody meant when he said he didn't ride for skyway?
Sounds right Glynn , Dominguez wasn't factory Skyway team ( that's a factory team lid ) . Euro tour by Salido would perhaps explain the Hotshot decal too . Cool piece Mr Skywayman ;)
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top thread matey hope it turns out to be a pro riders :Great_Britain: