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Title: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: spadey99 on January 07, 2014, 01:27 PM
Hi guys

This turned up today and thought was just a 79 goose but the T on serial tells me its a rare none flat chain stay September 79 Team goose??

Anyone clarify as I thought all none flat chain stay ones were 77ish....(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/07/a7asa8yg.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/07/a8u3u6az.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/07/nuzejyge.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/07/ururevaj.jpg)

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Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: Spen69 on January 07, 2014, 03:09 PM
Steve, the only way to be 100% sure on this would to strip it and wiegh it mate. Mongoose used to put the stamp on the BB's before, during and after fabrication so it could be either..... tragically I suspect without the flattend rear stay it's not and they just grabbed a pre-stamped BB when fabbing it up, but you could be lucky :-\

I'll dig out a picture of my '78 Team frame stripped down on the scales for you to check against if it helps bud :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: spadey99 on January 07, 2014, 03:14 PM
Cheers spen no drama just wondered. ...

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Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: Jaan on January 07, 2014, 03:48 PM
Very nice all the same.  Kap has one with flattened rear stays.
Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: snoopy72 on January 07, 2014, 06:21 PM
Hi, they did make some team frames without the flat stay, a motomag rear stay tubing has a 1.9mm wall thickness and a team frame is around 1.4mm, you can measure this at the rear drop out area with a digital vernier
Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: spadey99 on January 07, 2014, 06:32 PM
Cheers mate will do tonight....

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Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: spadey99 on January 07, 2014, 07:50 PM
Measured and I reckon bout 1.45mm or bit more but defo not 1.9mm

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Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: spadey99 on January 07, 2014, 09:08 PM
Come up well with quik peek as well (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/08/ytese8ed.jpg)

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Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: snoopy72 on January 11, 2014, 09:35 AM
Measured and I reckon bout 1.45mm or bit more but defo not 1.9mm

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The frame is a super  :daumenhoch: If it was a team it would have come standard with team forks.
  I think it's a sep 79 nickel supergoose, supers were nickel upto about June 80 then they were a frosty chrome, in about June 81 when they changed to the later rear drop outs and were show chrome.
I'm not sure on the forks though,  I know that early 77-79 supers had tange pinch forks but it seems a little late not to have team forks but it has no flat chain stay either so they could be correct.
A nice find  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: spadey99 on January 11, 2014, 09:50 AM
Hi mate

Will have a look later but dont think coaster tab has been cut off. .. will check serial on forks  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: snoopy72 on January 11, 2014, 10:06 AM
Hi mate

Will have a look later but dont think coaster tab has been cut off. .. will check serial on forks  :daumenhoch:
No sorry for some silly reason I thought it was March 79 :idiot2:, Sep 79 had no coaster tab so that's correct.
The forks may be close to the date of the frame but may not be the same month as they were probably lying around and the first set picked up when a frame was built.
If the forks are a different year they were probably not matched with the frame, this code can be hard to read though .
Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: spadey99 on January 11, 2014, 10:08 AM
Sweet... checking now bud... great info. Thanks

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Title: Re: Mongoose id.. team 79??
Post by: kalex on January 11, 2014, 01:18 PM
They look like regular motomag pinch forks

Super and team goose had the same style dropouts as forks on early cali's, expert's etc.
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