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Title: Serial number ID, is this a kuwi number?
Post by: oberonspacefruit on February 26, 2014, 07:37 PM
k7f19955

ive got a mystery frame.
nearest ive got is:
K, kuwahara, 87, february, but then its usually a 4 digit number, and this is 5.
who else made frames with a K starting letter?
Title: Re: Serial number ID, is this a kuwi number?
Post by: fischflo on February 26, 2014, 07:50 PM
if it were one digit less i'd say:
KZ-1 according to this
http://www.ozbmx.com.au/'showtopic=10588  ...that  aussieidiot (he's called himself like that) seems to know this Kuwie stuff

Kz-1
1987
June (= f)
frame no 19955  :crazy2:

...? :-\
Title: Re: Serial number ID, is this a kuwi number?
Post by: Jaan on February 26, 2014, 08:54 PM
if it were one digit less i'd say:
KZ-1 according to this
http://www.ozbmx.com.au/'showtopic=10588  ...that  aussieidiot (he's called himself like that) seems to know this Kuwie stuff

Kz-1
1987
June (= f)
frame no 19955  :crazy2:

...? :-\

A 1987 KZ-1??? Kuwie stopped making them in 83!!! There is a 2007 reissue  ???

Does it have a gusset?

JMC had serial numbers beginning with K but no subsequent letters, just numbers, so rules that out too.
Title: Re: Serial number ID, is this a kuwi number?
Post by: fischflo on February 26, 2014, 09:11 PM
What about Raliegh Aero Pro
Just asking cuz i heard they have the same serials as Kuwi Laserlites, and i also heard that lazer lites sometimes have the same K starting serial as KZ-1s... :-X  I'm lost Phil, sorry ....but you know Rad someone will come ....sometime :D

 "help"
Title: Re: Serial number ID, is this a kuwi number?
Post by: oberonspacefruit on February 26, 2014, 09:25 PM
thanks fisch...
it has no gussets at all.

round brake bridge, standard double diamond. similar to a 87 fox, exept for the rear drops, which are identical to a schwinn predator.
Title: Re: Serial number ID, is this a kuwi number?
Post by: fischflo on February 27, 2014, 01:26 PM
 ... like 96 or 97
and not sure on the serial
but seem to start with K & it's got Predator like drop outs ......and perhaps yours is chrome, too....? :D

Kawasaki Z1 (http://bmxmuseum.com/image/100_1943_copy0_lg.jpg) courtesy saylor
->http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/kawasaki/3715

......made by Huffy
Title: Re: Serial number ID, is this a kuwi number?
Post by: fischflo on February 27, 2014, 04:06 PM
FORGET IT ........................just saw the stupid cable mounts >:( ...was so close, even the serial number would've been pretty similar:   K+97+letter+5 digit no     ...hrumph

The Kuwahara Scamp ........has dropouts practically identical to a Schwinn Predator's ..flat brake bridge
The Kuwahara Pantera  ........has dropouts practically identical to a Schwinn Predator's ..but different serial
Title: Re: Serial number ID, is this a kuwi number?
Post by: oberonspacefruit on February 27, 2014, 05:08 PM
also, the kuwi pantera has oval downtube.
(http://bmxmuseum.com/image/photo00600_lg.jpg)

scamp has different brake bridge.

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/yMLfIlxnxl8q5fNorBAtPUcDOust_wHkj2GPPUL-qPqaJBO8Z5FWF00lFSFXYWoWc9xRp7RvA4VR6cqprfzpeW7K)

the predator has identical dropouts, no gusset, but the ends of the main tubes have a slight flare.
(http://bmxmuseum.com/image/dsc_0011_copy0_blowup.jpg)

at the moment im thinking its a cycle pro greg hill signature/ streetlegal.
(http://bmxmuseum.com/image/new_photos_324_lg.jpg)
(http://bmxmuseum.com/image/000_0029_lg.jpg)
(http://bmxmuseum.com/image/ss_008_blowup.jpg)
(http://bmxmuseum.com/image/ss_004_blowup.jpg)

the one i have has identical forks, same rear drops, same brakebridge, same brace between the chain stays.

aparently they were made in japan, by a maker with a "k", cant remember the name now, but they made some burners too....
Title: Re: Serial number ID, is this a kuwi number?
Post by: fischflo on February 27, 2014, 05:19 PM
cool - only knew the one with the older drops
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v521/fischflo/greghill2.jpg)
..same serial config?
Title: Re: Serial number ID, is this a kuwi number?
Post by: oberonspacefruit on February 27, 2014, 05:26 PM
thanks for your help fisch.

that one you posted is one of 3 made. they seem to have 3 different rear drops, 2 types of forks, and the gusset reinforcement on one.
the models are street legal, signiture, replica, and competitior. the replica is very nearly a ghp type frame.
mine has the landing gear type forks shown above, and the drops with the pierced triangle.

No doubt it was a relatively low end frame, heres a pdf
http://oldschoolmags.com/tests/Cyclepro_GH_sig_model_Plus8411.pdf

he was sponsered by cycle pro, and put his name to what seems to be 2 generic type frames, and one ghp lookalike.
Title: Re: Serial number ID, is this a kuwi number?
Post by: fischflo on February 27, 2014, 05:31 PM
yep those forks are a giveaway  ----- i wouldn't even bother with the stupid serial, job done.
Nice find. :daumenhoch:
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