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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: Gnarlyscoots on April 16, 2014, 11:05 AM
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this OSBMX bubble?
I have not been on much due to personal reasons and come back to find that the selling, trade side has slowed to a stop. I can see some great builds being put in BOTM but these could have been going on for months and just getting finished now.
I know some say that 'it's because of the lovely weather' etc etc but, that was what was said for winter, or christmas, and so on.
I have seen lots of people selling and trying to sell, including myself, with nothing shifting except some very expensive items for a collector/s. I even noticed some of the big buyers/sellers don't even frequent the site hardly anymore.
So, is this it guys? Have we come to a full circle? What's your opinion.
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Yes it has.
Ive tried to sell part exchange or swap both my hoffman completes (BD and condor anni) to no avail. I looked at swapping the BD complete for a 2013 specialized hardrock that now retails for 400 quid and the best offer I had for the BD was 350 quid. The flites and powder alone cost me that!! (and I was even offering the bike with the donor bikes parts as well-so basically 2 bikes worth of spares minus one frame) If I was asking for what I outlaid to restore the bike and accepted this figure I would be around 5 or 600 short, maybe a lot more......
Plenty of chancers here but noone serious. A lesson learned.
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If you attend the rides, and MK, you'll see that in no way has it burst.
You can't base the popularity of the 'bubble' as you call it (I'd prefer scene myself), purely on sales and how slow, or fast they are.
People just aren't interested in buying your stuff lads.
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Don't think the bubble has burst. We seem to be gaining a steady flow of new members and fb is chocca-bloc with bmx enthusiasts and newbies.
See a few Rad members who sell on fb but don't advertise on here. Maybe stuff sells better on there. If so you can't really fault em but doesn't help with the general traffic on here. As said before though for research and general bmx info it's shite. I rarely pass comment on fb, if I see a Radster latest build on fb I'll come on Rad to comment on it.
For ease of use fb is great but anything posted is only momentary whereas Rad is a much more permanent format.
We had a bit of a flurry of activity after the last debate about the slow down on here but that flurry is turning into a trickle again. Think we should all be making much more of an effort to keep this site flowing. :daumenhoch:
Fook fb, Long live Rad. :4_17_5:
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...guess osbmx goes in cycles :D
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Fook fb, Long live Rad. :4_17_5:
Exactly this. :daumenhoch:
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This subject comes around every few months. It's not burst it's just going through one of its quieter points.
All the serious builders on here are still around and botm proved it's far from over. The more time moves on the more the build quality improves and I think we are finding truly awesome and unique builds now rather than just your run of the mill stuff.
For weeks there was naff all in the for sale section but last last month there were lots of tasty gear to be had.
People have other things going on in their lives......It'll all change next month.
Steve
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Facebook is ok for banter, sharing photos and 'instant' feedback (as Nick has said) but there's no substitute for the proper forum and the events people actually go to - rides are getting bigger all the time
I'm not doing much right now as I need to find a house to live in - as soon as I have a cave of my own then the one in/one out rule goes out of the window :teef:
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Not sure how to comment on this really; I started my first resto whilst daydreaming in my own bubble and didn't become aware of RAD or a specific 'scene' until some time after that. I certainly didn't base it on whether there were decent sales or trading going on. I think as long as there are people building bikes and trying to grasp a tiny piece of happier times then this will all continue. The is sufficient market to keep the high-end items changing hands at a premium so there must be others daydreaming in their own bubbles somewhere. The key to that last bit is that everybody has their own opinion on what defines 'high-end'.
Plus, everybody has their own ideas or vision of what they want to build and what they consider their grail bike or associated components, and that may or may not be the same as the items you are trying to sell at any given time. The two builds I am working on currently are what I consider to be my all-time favourite bikes so I am loading them with my own fave parts rather than what seems to be the accepted norm, but after that I have no idea what I will be looking into. Will that be my bubble bursting? Maybe.... but I am building bikes I want to keep, rather than to sell on.
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If OS is dead, I'm in heaven!
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For some it has and for others it's as strong as it always has been, it's a personal thing. Ask the boys in Thailand the same question and they'll laugh at it, their bubble is extremely strong right now.
You'll always feel it's burst if you've personally lost the love for it.
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The real high end stuff will always sell and at good strong prices, I just sold my VDC Gorilla and JMC Andy Patterson (both complete) to the same guy for what some would consider obscene money. Again, I just sold my Haro Gen 1 Freestyler frameset and Gen 1 Sport complete to the same buyer.
As more and more people enter the scene, more and more 'rare' parts are being unearthed thus diluting the 1st stuff found and subsequently devaluing them to a certain degree.
Also, as more people enter the scene, more repops are being made either legit or otherwise again, devaluing the originals.
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What you need is BUBBLE BUDDY :4_17_5: (http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130925194706/smashbroslawlorigins/images/e/ec/I_SHALL_CALL_HIM_BUBBLE_BUDDY_f6f0c715efb79aea677c9d3c6cc95c2c.jpg)
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Agree with Ash !
As long as there are collectors and as long as there is interest, the bubble will continue to evolve.
Just because items don't sell or slow up doesn't shut the door on your hobbie or passion!
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What you need is BUBBLE BUDDY :4_17_5: (http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130925194706/smashbroslawlorigins/images/e/ec/I_SHALL_CALL_HIM_BUBBLE_BUDDY_f6f0c715efb79aea677c9d3c6cc95c2c.jpg)
I like bubble butts. :P
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Ive been on here since 2006 and even then this question got asked, and every year since......
The bubble has not burst, its just the prices are getting a full on joke, unless you know the know and the people who also know the know, your getting arse raped and after 4 bikes or so, the realisation kicks in that the finished bike is never as good as the chase for its parts.
Pity your about 5k down by then :LolLolLolLol:
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Things seem to sell quicker on Facebook simply because their is different forums and not everybody who is into Bmx are on Radbmx
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I'm not that bothered about it all at the minute. I don't try and sell stuff. Can't be arsed with all the fooking about.
Soooo many nice bits, going rusty....
All that lovely reto work to be done...
it was come around again at some stage...
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It's certainly not dead on the East Coast! :) Can't beat the regular coffee & biscuits mornings with the lads. I'm also gonna one day build an uber rare 70's SE that'll blow Ash's old collection into the weeds!!! :P
Once I know wot I'm looking for....... :/ :)
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It's certainly not dead on the East Coast! :) Can't beat the regular coffee & biscuits mornings with the lads. I'm also gonna one day build an uber rare 70's SE that'll blow Ash's old collection into the weeds!!! :P
Once I know wot I'm looking for....... :/ :)
have you been smoking again?
:nickswan:
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How rude!!! :crazy2:
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I see in many posts how people new to the hobby seem more than happy to put re issued parts on to a frame. Dia compe brakes, various companies seats etc...Maybe others are just looking to nab a real bargin so will wait. I'm sure things will pick up again :)
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With prices like this 'burst' is far from the description I'd use!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Old-School-Bmx-Dia-Compe-Brake-Pads-/251506820166?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item3a8ef98446
:wtf: :nickswan:
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I Buy, Buy, Buy sold a few recently got what i wanted for most of it, if its quality it will sell, ifso called bubble's burst i'll still be buying but for cheaper money "wantit"
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I think the market has dropped for ropey seats, used brake blocks, balding tyres, bent to fook rims, near scrap pedals and filthy grips with smashed in ends. In the short time I've been on here the demand for rider parts seems to have dropped, whereas the mint / NOS / rare market seems fairly buoyant........ List a set of NOS 9/16 DX on eBay and watch them fly........ List a set of 1/2" needing resto and they might reach £50.......
A lot of what I see touted on various forums, eBay etc is barely fit for the bin, let alone a rider, but people still want daft money. Put it on eBay and see the real value. I think that the scene is just evolving the same as the classic car / bike market did. I'll pay top money for top parts, but could post more than a few pictures of supposed mint parts that have been far from it (as we probably all could) Its never a good thing to lose a few quid, but reality is that expectation often clouds reality when it comes to prices and people have to really understand that basic economics dictates that demand is directly linked to price. I price stuff to sell - generally it does. Better in my bank for a tenner less than I bought it than sat on a shelf gathering dust. Just saying.......
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Anyone got an '85 GJS Freestyler that they want to sell to me? The bubble certainly hasn't burst. OS seems to be more popular than ever certainly when it comes to the social side - look at the turnout for Chester last week, and for some of the other rides.
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Anyone got an '85 GJS Freestyler that they want to sell to me? The bubble certainly hasn't burst. OS seems to be more popular than ever certainly when it comes to the social side - look at the turnout for Chester last week, and for some of the other rides.
if the bubbles burst us 70 must have looked stupid riding round chester at the weekend but to me it looked awesome, right up until Dan embarrased us all by falling off, but i've been reliably informed it was Joff's fault, ive spent all year blaming myself for my testicular accident last year, was unaware that was joff's fault too :Aresehole:
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I did warn you Jono. It's always Joff's fault :2funny:
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>:D
:D
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Anyone got an '85 GJS Freestyler that they want to sell to me? The bubble certainly hasn't burst. OS seems to be more popular than ever certainly when it comes to the social side - look at the turnout for Chester last week, and for some of the other rides.
if the bubbles burst us 70 must have looked stupid riding round chester at the weekend but to me it looked awesome, right up until Dan embarrased us all by falling off, but i've been reliably informed it was Joff's fault, ive spent all year blaming myself for my testicular accident last year, was unaware that was joff's fault too :Aresehole:
I cant agree more JONO. this has been the Biggest year for Chest-Air both in the day and night. Blackpool was only announced a few days ago and there are over 20 riders on the list and a few more that I know about that are yet to confirm. I will always pay for good quality stuff but tend to steer away from the not so perfect. Ash mentioned hiss bikes and as nice as they are they are not my Era of bikes or I would have been speaking with him.
OLD SCHOOL BMX DEAD - Never BMX IS FOR LIFE
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What bubble?
"Copy and paste in" add year depending the date you're reading this thread.
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Is it time for one of these threads again ? ::) :LolLolLolLol:
Every year or sooner . I remember this.question being asked in 2005 and ever since .
Ita always started regarding on sales .
People come and go , come back , etc ,,, the scene is bigger than one or two people. ::)
People leave car clubs , etc but the cars still go on to new enthusiasts . :)
Heard it before and will do again in a. few months in another doom and gloom thread :daumenhoch:
As has been said for some BMX is really for life . Some are just bothered about making money , rather than their hobby whether its bikes ,cars , toys ,
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Is it time for one of these threads again ? ::) :LolLolLolLol:
Every year or sooner . I remember this.question being asked in 2005 and ever since .
Ita always started regarding on sales .
People come and go , come back , etc ,,, the scene is bigger than one or two people. ::)
People leave car clubs , etc but the cars still go on to new enthusiasts . :)
Heard it before and will do again in a. few months in another doom and gloom thread :daumenhoch:
As has been said for some BMX is really for life . Some are just bothered about making money , rather than their hobby whether its bikes ,cars , toys ,
Yep that about sums it up Christian :daumenhoch:
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Is it time for one of these threads again ? ::) :LolLolLolLol:
Every year or sooner . I remember this.question being asked in 2005 and ever since .
Ita always started regarding on sales .
People come and go , come back , etc ,,, the scene is bigger than one or two people. ::)
People leave car clubs , etc but the cars still go on to new enthusiasts . :)
Heard it before and will do again in a. few months in another doom and gloom thread :daumenhoch:
As has been said for some BMX is really for life . Some are just bothered about making money , rather than their hobby whether its bikes ,cars , toys ,
d i t t o
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Is it time for one of these threads again ? ::) :LolLolLolLol:
Every year or sooner . I remember this.question being asked in 2005 and ever since .
Ita always started regarding on sales .
People come and go , come back , etc ,,, the scene is bigger than one or two people. ::)
People leave car clubs , etc but the cars still go on to new enthusiasts . :)
Heard it before and will do again in a. few months in another doom and gloom thread :daumenhoch:
As has been said for some BMX is really for life . Some are just bothered about making money , rather than their hobby whether its bikes ,cars , toys ,
X4
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Is it time for one of these threads again ? ::) :LolLolLolLol:
Every year or sooner . I remember this.question being asked in 2005 and ever since .
Ita always started regarding on sales .
People come and go , come back , etc ,,, the scene is bigger than one or two people. ::)
People leave car clubs , etc but the cars still go on to new enthusiasts . :)
Heard it before and will do again in a. few months in another doom and gloom thread :daumenhoch:
As has been said for some BMX is really for life . Some are just bothered about making money , rather than their hobby whether its bikes ,cars , toys ,
Damn I hate it when I agree with Christian, but the man does put a great point across. ;D :daumenhoch: :4_17_5:
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Nothing new to say but here are the facts....
1. high end prices seem to keep going up
2. more and more new members here on Rad
3. more and more people attending the rides/MK
4. more and more people on FB (sadly)
5. more and more of us have to have the one in one out rule (economic facts)
6. repops are great and cheap!- if you go on the rides you will either fall off or some cnut will knock your bike over and chip it!!! :LolLolLolLol:
7. the real world sometimes takes over either permanently or just temporarily-I'm not feeling the love as much at the moment but I've just seperated from my wife and I've got other priorities like replacing all the stuff we divvied up when she moved out :D I'm sure that when I'm back on me feet a lovely new OS project will be just what the doctor ordered :daumenhoch:
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Is it time for one of these threads again ? ::) :LolLolLolLol:
Every year or sooner . I remember this.question being asked in 2005 and ever since .
Ita always started regarding on sales .
People come and go , come back , etc ,,, the scene is bigger than one or two people. ::)
People leave car clubs , etc but the cars still go on to new enthusiasts . :)
Heard it before and will do again in a. few months in another doom and gloom thread :daumenhoch:
As has been said for some BMX is really for life . Some are just bothered about making money , rather than their hobby whether its bikes ,cars , toys ,
Wise words from one so small!! :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Bru :daumenhoch:
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FFS....dont encourage the little fooker.
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Thing is as far as im concerned, the opportunity to restore a bike I thought I wanted came up, and then the opportunity to build a "Pro" new school bike reared its head. I thought I would ride this and get fit but in the end didnt bother.
So basically I bought and built 2 bikes that werent my "Grail" and left me cold. So im stranded with them. I wont shed a tear to see the BD go but the condor anniversary is the one I would least like to part with especially as its brand new and built with somponents that wont break no matter how much it would be abused.
BMX"er for life?? YES I believe I am but the thought of a decent MTB to ride when im eventually living in the UK is the main priority and the lesson learnt is that maybe I should have sourced a streetbeat to replace mine that was stolen in 1988....
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brilliant ...next time at Ikea i'll give it a try, what the heck let it flow right in there :LolLolLolLol:
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Bourbon's "wantit"
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FFS....dont encourage the little fooker.
;D ;D. ;D
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The tyre has defo burst on my MTB :LolLolLolLol:people just have other interests as well as bike .
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Think it's gone full circle about ten times.. We've all owned something that belonged to another at some point.. Still love the bikes, got great mates from it.. Found out that peter Jackson wears high heels.. Darren wood has shit shoes.. Akgoff was a fooking ugly bird..
Gashead is Welsh.. List goes on.. :daumenhoch:
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If anything the "bubble" is growing, show 'n' shine events are often over subscribed and the rides are very well attended. 70 riders at a recent event sounds incredible! You'd only have seen that many BMXs BITD at races.
BMX is a way of life, a passion, not a commodity.
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Also, as more people enter the scene, more repops are being made either legit or otherwise again, devaluing the originals.
This is often said but there's no evidence to support it.
Did the repop Dia Compe stuff de-value the OG stuff, I don't think so.
IMO people who buy repops just won't pay the prices for the OG stuff.
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Also, as more people enter the scene, more repops are being made either legit or otherwise again, devaluing the originals.
This is often said but there's no evidence to support it.
Did the repop Dia Compe stuff de-value the OG stuff, I don't think so.
IMO people who buy repops just won't pay the prices for the OG stuff.
I agree, I don't think repops devalue OG parts, for example, OG MX1000's will always hold their value as the repops are so shit, Dia Compe did a shocking job.
Again, Kashi Aero repops - £43, OG ones still fetch double that, and more, in nice condition. :daumenhoch:
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I like repo parts.
For example if I got a New School Skyway TA I would build it with all repo parts.
But would still prefer to use Old School parts for an Old School bike.
:)
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I like repo parts.
For example if I got a New School Skyway TA I would build it with all repo parts.
But would still prefer to use Old School parts for an Old School bike.
:)
Makes good sense to me to build a repop f/f with repop parts :daumenhoch:
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Idiot
You know who
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Nothing wrong with a newschool looking like an oldschool in my book..... I get to ride a decent bike that has sorted geometry and doesn't fall apart, but it looks like an old bike so it confuses the kidz :2funny:
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I remember dinni seeing mine at the rad shop bash and saying "took man, you welded lugs to you motomag?" ;D
Gets em every time Spen :daumenhoch:
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I remember dinni seeing mine at the rad shop bash and saying "took man, you welded lugs to you motomag?" ;D
Gets em every time Spen :daumenhoch:
What bike's that Rob? ::)
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Its a secret nick, I'll unveil her at MK ;)
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I heard it was a Burner...... ::)
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;D
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I heard it was a Burner...... ::)
I'm working on one :daumenhoch:
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Thanks for the input guys :daumenhoch:
I know the ride outs and meet ups are becoming popular these days and I can only assume that it is due to the great weather we are having this year and I hope, personally, to get a few later on in the year as, at present, I am involved in some live changing situations.
My question was posted due to being asked by a few other people if I thought the bubble (scene) was bursting for a number of reasons. Rad is far from buzzing as it used to be, hopefully due to everybody being out in the sunshine, there seems to be more Mid school builds being built as opposed to Old school, many members are selling off their bikes (check Ebay and FB) and the parts sales have become, dare I say, dull, as opposed to quantity of great parts that used to be for sale. Are people hoarding their wares?
If you attend the rides, and MK, you'll see that in no way has it burst.
You can't base the popularity of the 'bubble' as you call it (I'd prefer scene myself), purely on sales and how slow, or fast they are.
People just aren't interested in buying your stuff lads.
Unfortunately Dan, getting to rides or MK is not an easy option for myself due to working shifts etc etc. I have attended the London ride on a few occasions when I have been off on the day it is scheduled for but getting up North for a ride is a difficult one.
I didin't just base my question on the for sales section here on Rad as many members now prefer to sell on Ebay and Facebook to the wider audience. My question was based on a few people asking me the same question and I thought I would post it on here to see what peoples views were.
I may have not sold my complete bikes but I preffered to keep them together rather than split them as I really don't want sell them to start with but space is an issue for me to keep hold of them. When I do sell parts, they generally do sell as most of the parts I have are of excellent quality which the buyers would confirm if asked. I only ever asked for I paid for the item plus postage to get it to you, which I feel is fair.
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Thing is as far as im concerned, the opportunity to restore a bike I thought I wanted came up, and then the opportunity to build a "Pro" new school bike reared its head. I thought I would ride this and get fit but in the end didnt bother.
So basically I bought and built 2 bikes that werent my "Grail" and left me cold. So im stranded with them. I wont shed a tear to see the BD go but the condor anniversary is the one I would least like to part with especially as its brand new and built with somponents that wont break no matter how much it would be abused.
BMX"er for life?? YES I believe I am but the thought of a decent MTB to ride when im eventually living in the UK is the main priority and the lesson learnt is that maybe I should have sourced a streetbeat to replace mine that was stolen in 1988....
Your situation doesn't really have anything to do with the bubble bursting for old school debate.
New school is a different ball game, you can throw silly money at a new school bike but if you change your mind you'll only get buttons for it as you've found out, seen a few people being stung like you have over the years on here.
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I know the questions get asked every year 'has the bubble burst', but that is always from members that got in the hobby, built one bike (usually a shit one), paid way too much money for the parts and now cannot recoup that ££ they laid out in the first place... i.e. dumb fookers.
The real collectors and lovers of BMX and OS carry on as we have done for many years. I love it when the bubble bursts every year as it gets rid of so many assholes that I have to deal with on a daily basis and makes room for new blood and fresh ideas, plus there are bargains to be had buying parts from desperate people.
Bubble burst? Well it ain't a bubble so nothing to burst, to some of us BMX is a way of life not a whim and money making exercise.
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but that is always from members that got in the hobby, built one bike (usually a shit one), paid way too much money for the parts and now cannot recoup that ££ they laid out in the first place... i.e. dumb fookers.
A bit harsh is that Sean. Some members get ripped by other members just so they can move on to higher priced items for themselves.
With so many 'repop' parts on the market too, some are bound to buy unaware of the product being 'fake' but paying top dollar for it.
And what is a 'shit bike' in your eyes? An old school bike built with repop parts or a bike built with old school parts but not to your liking?
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My arse has just burst... full English and beer for two days on the trot, now compacted by several budget easter eggs :shocked:
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but that is always from members that got in the hobby, built one bike (usually a shit one), paid way too much money for the parts and now cannot recoup that ££ they laid out in the first place... i.e. dumb fookers.
A bit harsh is that Sean. Some members get ripped by other members just so they can move on to higher priced items for themselves.
With so many 'repop' parts on the market too, some are bound to buy unaware of the product being 'fake' but paying top dollar for it.
And what is a 'shit bike' in your eyes? An old school bike built with repop parts or a bike built with old school parts but not to your liking?
To be honest, anybody who gets ass raped over parts without doing some simple homework on prices get what they deserve IMO.
It is not hard to do some searching on parts and prices and to get an idea of what to use and how much to pay.
A shit bike for me is simply throwing money at something just because all you can remember from your past are well known parts (MX1000, Comp III etc etc etc), I don't personally care what the bike is or the parts used, what gets me is the lack of imagination when it comes to parts to use.. Kashi Aero= boring as fook, Tuff Neck = more boring as fook, etc etc and you pay a massive premium for these parts.
Using repops these days show more imagination than paying £250 for a Dia-Compe MX1000.
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where else do you get to see bikes like shearer's JMC long standard, OK on the museum maybe or at the Aussies .......
like others have said, if some of the boys don't shift.. or rather show up that much any more, that probably says more about saturation of a few at a particular moment in time than about general interest .
looking at the past few botms, i don't have the feeling the quantity or quality of the builds has decreased at all, and i can't think of a ..better indicator of how rad's doing, but i can't comment on the 4 sale section, hardly go there. but like others have said, if some boys etc....
:radbmxsmilie: "bump"
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People come and people go, we all go through stages of losing the love a bit or having life throw you curve balls.
Most come back and some don't and move onto the next 'thing' but alls good :daumenhoch:
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Judging by some of the prices banded about (and bought) down here recently, fk all has burst.
It comes, it goes. The rides are bigger than ever by the sound of it, but sales of some parts are down.
It'll even itself out eventually
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the bubble has burst when you can get hutch stems for £40 quid again and mx1000 for a tenner , i can`t see that happening for a long time and no way has the bubble burst , the reason stuff sits around for sale too long is too many greedy people out there who want top dollar for stuff as ebay is plastered with it .
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the bubble has burst when you can get hutch stems for £40 quid again and mx1000 for a tenner , i can`t see that happening for a long time and no way has the bubble burst , the reason stuff sits around for sale too long is too many greedy people out there who want top dollar for stuff as ebay is plastered with it .
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The king is dead .... Long live the king - it all goes full circle :) prices have put me off from buying but I still love the scene because of the people who are here and the passion they have, I have the utmost admiration for you guys that build bikes .... My love is collection the parts I couldn't afford as a kid. There will always be old school BMX collectors. I think the real shame is the demise of OS racing I use to love it , it was about the bikes and getting together to enjoy the racing....
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I just got to the pan before it burst.
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What I say to anyone struggling to sell is:
1) adjust your price to gain more interest once reduced,
2) don't keep flogging the same parts at the same price and starting a new thread with a new title to shift them.
As said though, IMO sales are no reflection on the activity of the hobby.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUTCH-PADSET-FLITE-CHROM-BMX-OLD-SCHOOL-NOS-NOS-redline-hutch-esp-vdc-/281317333017?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
Need I say more!! FFS!!
Bru :daumenhoch:
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUTCH-PADSET-FLITE-CHROM-BMX-OLD-SCHOOL-NOS-NOS-redline-hutch-esp-vdc-/281317333017?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
Need I say more!! FFS!!
Bru :daumenhoch:
Bargain, glad I grabbed them before too many people saw your link :daumenhoch:
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUTCH-PADSET-FLITE-CHROM-BMX-OLD-SCHOOL-NOS-NOS-redline-hutch-esp-vdc-/281317333017?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
Need I say more!! FFS!!
Bru :daumenhoch:
Bargain, glad I grabbed them before too many people saw your link :daumenhoch:
;D ;D ;D
Bru :daumenhoch: