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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: hokuspokus74 on April 16, 2014, 03:58 PM
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Am looking to dye a set of skyway oe's to white,what is the best dye and the best formula to use to get the white,as there like an of white/light cream.
Also have a blue set of Z-Rims and want them black what dye to use and formula for those etc
cheers graham :daumenhoch:
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Dyeing the skyways wont make em whiter Graham, you'll need to bleach em bud. Industrial peroxide works but needs sunshine for best results. .
I find black rit the best black dye & normally whack 2 packs in & 1kg of salt fella. Never done zd's so don't know if they take well or not :daumenhoch:
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Have a wander through this for the skyways, stuffs available on the bay.....
Loads of dying threads on here too mate :D
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Cheers chubby :daumenhoch: went and bought a plastic box there in B&Q,a little to small for the rim :-\ but i got a polystyrene box big enough so am going to line it with my pool table cover incase the poly would suck the dye in.
To bleach the skyways pure bleach or watered,and how long for?......have you tried it before?
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Graham if you are going the bleach route get the really cheap Tesco own brand bottles, I think they are 2 litres. Any thin stuff will do and don't forget to vasaline the hubs or the bleach will affect them.
I left mine in for 2 days then gave them a really good rinse and a good coating of wd40 while hanging on the washing line through the valve hole. Worked great :daumenhoch:
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Taken a few days after they were done
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wowwwww excellnt job that what my oe's are for my decade build :daumenhoch: as for the rit dye is it powder form or solution...going to order it of ebay cant find anywhere that sells it
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Exactly what Clint says Graham :LolLolLolLol:
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hey chubby what is the dye you use rit solution or powder form?
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hey chubby what is the dye you use rit solution or powder form?
Packs of the powder Graham, make sure it's dissolved well in your container though
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ok will do,would you use warm water or cold from the hose pipe? god sounds stupid asking these questions i am such an :Aresehole: :D
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Water needs to be as hot as you can get it, doesn't need to be boiling away but hotter the better mate
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Hi HokusPookus,
I have just bleached my OE's for my decade. They were awful before hand. Before you try anything else, get a bottle of Cillit Bang with bleach, looks like this:
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Spray the wheel, leave for 15 mins, scrub with a softish scouring pad and rinse. Do this again a couple of times until it looks clean.
Just using the above method turned this:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o114/lowback/IMG_4886_zps28eb0ca7.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/lowback/media/IMG_4886_zps28eb0ca7.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o114/lowback/IMG_4891_zpsa690bb8a.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/lowback/media/IMG_4891_zpsa690bb8a.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o114/lowback/IMG_4891_zpsa690bb8a.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/lowback/media/IMG_4891_zpsa690bb8a.jpg.html)
Into this:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o114/lowback/IMG_4907_zps6e1351c8.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/lowback/media/IMG_4907_zps6e1351c8.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o114/lowback/IMG_4909_zps5b279fa9.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/lowback/media/IMG_4909_zps5b279fa9.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o114/lowback/IMG_4908_zpsc1e41ed3.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/lowback/media/IMG_4908_zpsc1e41ed3.jpg.html)
A comparison:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o114/lowback/IMG_4910_zpsc1501f83.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/lowback/media/IMG_4910_zpsc1501f83.jpg.html)
The result was so impressive, im debating whether to bother using peroxide on them. Can they be 'too white' for a survivor? 8)
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OldschoolAce- Should i now WD40 my wheels? Why does that need to be done? i've read about it elsewhere...
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wowwww laidback seriously it turned out like that,excellent job,got to try that tomorrow when i finish work :daumenhoch:
you got any other good rest tips & tricks :)
cheers
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OldschoolAce- Should i now WD40 my wheels? Why does that need to be done? i've read about it elsewhere...
No need to wd40 them bud, you've only cleaned them. People use the wd on wheels after dying as they come out dull/dry looking & need shinning up. You've had a great result with that cilit bang, barry scott is a genius........... LolLolLolLol
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For white Tuffs the best way is aquablasting. You will be amazed :shocked:
Sid1972 found a place in Barnsley called Metal Magic who do it and they come up amazing for about £25-30.
I got a set done for Animal and SteveVXR so ask them how good they came up :coolsmiley:
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Yeah ive heard of aquablasting i was looking for someone over here to do it,think i will try laidback trick of doing and see how it goes for me. :daumenhoch:
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It's £3.50 a bottle. Gotta be worth a go! The photos make them look brighter white than they actually are, but I'm pleased with them! That cillit bang and a scourer even got rid of brake rub. :daumenhoch:
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what type of scourer mate i take it isnt one of them green pads,just i know there is loads of scourers and id prob get one that would be rough on the wheels. :)
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bloody tescos never had the cillit bang with the bleach,brought another cillit bang and see if that works ,if not will need to look else were to see if i can get that type of one :daumenhoch:
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bloody tescos never had the cillit bang with the bleach,brought another cillit bang and see if that works ,if not will need to look else were to see if i can get that type of one :daumenhoch:
I think it's the bleach ingredient that does the trick mate. I picked up another bottle today, as it was on offer ;D As for the scourer, i used a green one to get the brake rub off- the braking surface isnt scratched. On the rest of the wheel, i used a well used scourer-one of the ones on the top of a sponge.
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Top tip of the day :4_17_5:
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what supermarket you pick it up in i was up and down the cleaning isle like a blue arsed fly lol
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Tesco
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I have an old kashimax handler seat that's a bit yellowish,so do I just put it in neat bleach to whiten it?
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Get some cheapo stuff n whack it in skippy, see what happens 👍
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cheers Chubby :daumenhoch:
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laidback i searched tesco lastnight and they dont stock it here even asda dont do it,so i bought domestos bleach spray hopefully it will do the trick if not il have to get it of ebay,have you ever dyed yellow skyways or z rims red?
ordered the rit black dye,but would dylon do the same job or is rit the best? :daumenhoch:
cheers
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Finally got the cillit bang bleach one in a different tescos :D no more searching if i run out off it now lol
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Got some myself in wilkos for 3 quid 😆😆😆
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ive just finished doing 1 wheel came up a treat will take pics of that one and the other that needs done and show the difference,there maybe not as good as laidbacks but they will do my job :D
now to upload the gt pics and start another thread lol
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Good man. It's good shiz isn't it? Can you see why I'm debating peroxiding them now?!
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Yeah it is good stuff alright,i had started to use the domestos nearly rubbed my knuckles into the wheel trying to remove the cr_p on it lol but the cillit is the dogs ganglies :nuts: excellent stuff and the longer you leave to soak it seems to work its magic better,your a good man with coming up with that,that tip on its own should be a sticky :daumenhoch:
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Right got my dye this morning,so when i go to dye the z rims,what all is it i do if am using the wallpaper stripper method,and do i have to do something to keep the rims of the top of each other,i know il bollocks this up so needing as much info as possible from you good guys >:D if yous have done the wallpaper stripper method yourselves :daumenhoch:
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Outstanding results .
Will Definately be giving that a go in my white zytecs :)
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Yeah Simon it really is good stuff and the front wheel i did was alot worse than the back one in the photo,zytecs :) loved them back in my days and the ogk's but hard to get now,i remember my 1st mags,santa brought them as a suprise Acorns the really bendy ones,you went round a sharp corner you never knew if they would bend badly and whip you off the bike...i nearly bought a pair of them,then got a flash back off my days with them :2funny:
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1st wheel is looking good 8)
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Well laidback its not as good as yours,but i suppose its not bad for a 1st attempt,maybe i am using the wrong scourer,coz i only used the green scotch brite pad....did you also use the cif in the photo aswell? :daumenhoch:
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What salt do you use to add to the dye and how much of it do you use? :daumenhoch:
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What salt do you use to add to the dye and how much of it do you use? :daumenhoch:
Normal table salt is ideal and available in 1kg bags ... I normally use 2kg when doing a pair of wheels and keep the water hot for best results too :daumenhoch:
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Cheerrs Steve :daumenhoch: wasnt sure but went and bought table salt there 3-4 kgs of it lol do you put do the wheels in on top of each other then turn them over or do 1 at a time? its just i only bought 2 packets of the rit dye,so what do i all do basically as i never did this before?
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Cheerrs Steve :daumenhoch: wasnt sure but went and bought table salt there 3-4 kgs of it lol do you put do the wheels in on top of each other then turn them over or do 1 at a time? its just i only bought 2 packets of the rit dye,so what do i all do basically as i never did this before?
Both rims or wheels at the same time mate ... fully immersed which helps to keep a consistent colour :daumenhoch:
I've just finished a pair of early Tuff 1's which were well faded ... I'll upload some photos soon ;)
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thanks now i will go and attempt this.disaster time now :2funny:
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thanks now i will go and attempt this.disaster time now :2funny:
Go for it ... make sure you use boiling water for best results :daumenhoch:
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Right the wheels are in approx 2 hours but it doesnt seem to be taking around were the brake rub was :-\ any idea's why this is happening?
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i lifted the rims out this morning and the black dye has not took to the edge of the rim were the brake hits etc,trying to explain myself the best here lol sounds silly saying were the brake hits :D
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Finished mine today: No need for peroxide. Pretty chuffed with'em 8)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o114/lowback/IMG_4962_zpsd8ee1246.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/lowback/media/IMG_4962_zpsd8ee1246.jpg.html)
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Top quality mate very nice, :smitten: them tyres,i think it was a pink set i bought lastnight for my build,doing a haro group 1 at the mo but on the look out fo a set of nice red tyres or i need to build the set of red rims i got :daumenhoch:
i still need to finish 1 skyway of 1 more scrub with the bleach should do it ::) thank god
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Does anyone know why the dye wound not of took to the edge of the z rim i dyed black? i recleaned it etc and it had been in the dye since yesterday approx 24 hours and when i lifted it out it still hadnt taken,has anyone had this problem,and how did you sort the problem out?
graham