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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: Glynnyboy on April 19, 2014, 02:39 PM
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I remember reading something on the early days of Profile and Hutch.
Working together then parting ways but producing the same 20" f/f.
Profile then introduced the bar to differentiate.
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll167/glynn9371/C3652108-951C-4534-BCE0-8631B225BC05.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/glynn9371/media/C3652108-951C-4534-BCE0-8631B225BC05.jpg.html)
I was interested to see how the 24's compared. It seems they are totally different altogether.
Thanks to steve for waiting a bit, This enabled me to get some comparison shots while both f/f's were in my possesion.
This sort of shiz interests me and i know it does a few others but i havent seen it posted anywhere.
So here are some pics.
The profile fork drops have a greater curve and a larger hole. The profiles also have a flat end to the tube whereas the hutch has a sweeping cut.
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll167/glynn9371/ECE893B3-E0A8-4BE1-B258-88D1ED10EDD6.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/glynn9371/media/ECE893B3-E0A8-4BE1-B258-88D1ED10EDD6.jpg.html)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll167/glynn9371/E4BC5BA4-470D-431F-9606-072A1ED9DB86.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/glynn9371/media/E4BC5BA4-470D-431F-9606-072A1ED9DB86.jpg.html)
The Hutch has Essex girl type sweep from the fork crown :) (Steve's description )
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll167/glynn9371/933FF6A5-47BA-4C50-9BE7-81D15E4DD68C.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/glynn9371/media/933FF6A5-47BA-4C50-9BE7-81D15E4DD68C.jpg.html)
The geomytry is totally different too.
The profile has a more relaxed seat and headtube angle compared to the Hutch.
The profile has a thinner top tube with the bar support. Then a thick down tube.
The Hutch has a thick top tube and down tube.
From the fork to the bb shell both frames meet up but the Hutch has a longer back end.
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll167/glynn9371/ABE2D50B-2848-48EE-977D-5CE6699AEA12.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/glynn9371/media/ABE2D50B-2848-48EE-977D-5CE6699AEA12.jpg.html)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll167/glynn9371/2B162868-7503-4E78-A302-C54F427E6242.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/glynn9371/media/2B162868-7503-4E78-A302-C54F427E6242.jpg.html)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll167/glynn9371/F4186EE2-D0F2-42CD-9B0D-9F61F8F0521E.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/glynn9371/media/F4186EE2-D0F2-42CD-9B0D-9F61F8F0521E.jpg.html)
The profile has thicker dropouts.
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll167/glynn9371/2BE7EED7-A0AD-4AC2-B2B9-EA588916D454.jpg) (http://s288.photobucket.com/user/glynn9371/media/2BE7EED7-A0AD-4AC2-B2B9-EA588916D454.jpg.html)
Hope a few of you find the pics a little informative and interesting. :coolsmiley: :radbmxsmilie:
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Similar but not remotely alike :D
And nearly as cool as an S&M widowmaker ;)
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Similar but not remotely alike :D
Reckon you summed it up well there Si ;D
Eitherway they are both cool framesets , thanks for sharing Glynn . Looking forward to seeing you work your magic on the Hutch and likewise Steve on the Profile 8)
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Cheers Glynn, yep I'm very interested. :daumenhoch:
As the others have said, they are quite different but I'm also not that surprised that the BB is in a very similar place for both. Didn't JJ (BaldBMXer) used to race a Hutch cruiser ???
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Interesting that the Profile has thicker drops, I wouldn't have expected that.
A beautiful pair, for me the ideal frame set would be an amalgamation of the two using the Hutch forks and rear triangle...
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Cheers Glynn, yep I'm very interested. :daumenhoch:
As the others have said, they are quite different but I'm also not that surprised that the BB is in a very similar place for both. Didn't JJ (BaldBMXer) used to race a Hutch cruiser ???
I think he did mate.
I know he has a very tasty example tucked away too, not sure if it's his from bitd.
Interesting that the Profile has thicker drops, I wouldn't have expected that.
A beautiful pair, for me the ideal frame set would be an amalgamation of the two using the Hutch forks and rear triangle...
Looking at them I don't think they would have got away with the holes been the size they are if the drops had been any thinner.
You can see pro & cons for both & what they might have been thinking. An amalgamation would be good of the plus points.
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Very informative Glynn and also very surprising there's that much difference :coolsmiley:
Eitherway they are both cool framesets , thanks for sharing Glynn . Looking forward to seeing you work your magic on the Hutch and likewise Steve on the Profile 8)
I'm gonna need more than "magic" on this one Joff.
i'm only buying in one thing for this build and that's a DK invert stem (so i can utilize a set of bars that's in stock). The rest is any ol' shite i've got knocking about in the spares box :whistle:
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Great post. Thanks.
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I like this post.. Cheers :daumenhoch: