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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: Beaterman on May 01, 2014, 10:08 AM
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So in my search for the KHE Beater frame, i discovered that they changed the design circa 2001/2003 (after i stopped riding) i was fortunate enough to get my hands on both.... now i need to decide on which frame to use to complete the project....
I have (what i believe to be) a very early Beater in White and a very late 2003 model in blue.... both fairly heavy (as were most in that era) - whats the general consensus of the two?
i understand that the early models seat tube were made of a different material making them prone to cracks and weakness - this one seems to be fine... on the other hand the later models have a built in gyro..... Hmmmm
Whats people saying?
Later 2003 KHE Beater
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l251/KHEBeaterman/20140423_215936_zps9a4e616d.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/KHEBeaterman/media/20140423_215936_zps9a4e616d.jpg.html)
Early Model - not sure on year.... maybe 96?
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l251/KHEBeaterman/20140501_091442_zps0ec7dceb.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/KHEBeaterman/media/20140501_091442_zps0ec7dceb.jpg.html)
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What's that disease where the head fills with liquid called, water head...? The 2003 Beater's got it. Other one for me
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Im not a fan of either but if i had to id build the early one, the later one is just too ugly!!
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Cheers mate! thats a new one on me! thanks for the heads up... any other underlining issues? also....
I saw on another threat that the beater frame dates back to 93/94?... i thought it was launched in 96/97
this is the thread i've seen suggesting the release was 93...
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,115535.msg1122874.html#msg1122874
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Thanks Kev :)
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the white one mate :daumenhoch: the blue with the internal gyro is just nasty "nono"
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Na - that threads wrong I reckon - Beaters were as you say 95/96ish :daumenhoch:
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thanks people - i checked the KHE History and it does say on their site that it was launched in 96...
http://www.khebikes.com/2014/1996-2000-p-1258.html
thanks for the feedback so far... looks like the White frame is in the lead so far... can anyone tell me if they are the original decals? maybe they just used the KHE letters before using the car decal?
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The later one is beastly ugly but in a beautiful way. Do both :D
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ha ha ha EDBANGER - i know exactly what you are saying! my head is screaming at the white one but the theirs somthing about the later frame thats drawing me to it!.... i posted this thread just to make sure that it wasnt the shinny newer look it has..... i have the white one booked in for a new coat anyways - so we shall see....
anyone interested in a 8000t Seventies front sprocket and a 1 piece crank? ;D ;D ;D
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v521/fischflo/Beater.png) .....can't find a pic of your decals, but they suit perfectly ...... decisions waaah :D
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they are the decals i had in mind... there is a very slim chance (and i mean slim chance) that i could get my hands on a set of originals (their in a draw in Germany somewhere - Unused) - friend of a friend kind of situation.... :-[
the ones that are on the bike look familiar - i thought i had seen them before - baybe on the original beater - 05 ish...
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you mean the one on the cover of the '97 ride magazine....? yeah, way cool 8), ...they're different to the ones with the car, arent they?
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sorry mate - yeah, the ones on the cover are the ones i had in mind for my project.... (the Car decals with red beater lettering) i think these are circa 97 however i was unsure if the first line of beaters had a different decal set - ie - the ones on my white frame.... if this is an early frame say 95 ish i may have found a little gem....
these are the ones close up: (also on a 97 beater)
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/khe_/46180
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i've got the serial from the white frame: WF96E1641 - so maybe 96?
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ah, get it now - and i just read the Beater was designed in 1993 (http://www.khe-bmx.com/)
perhaps you could ask Del to repro the decals (the ones on your white frame) in any case?
also there#s a contact form on the khe site, maybe they know something about dem stickers
and 96 sounds right: that's consistent with the serials on the bikes on the museum (WF98E3580 for a '98 and 9701305 for a 97)
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Hi mate - yeah, I've already set a form on the KHE site.... had nothing back as yet - that was about 2 weeks ago now
I sent Del a msg too to see if he can send me a picture - still awaiting response see what happens. in the meantime the white Beater is booked in to be dipped and re powdered back to its original white colour and i will be putting the blue one back on the market if i can bring myself to do it: such a beast of a frame! side by side the difference quite a bit!
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if they don't answer the form, ring them up
Tel. +49(0)721 - 5307280
Fax.+49(0)721 - 55072828 , lazy bastards ;D
cool bike this will be - im sure, there's one on the bay atm, but pickup only ::)
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Na - Beater was deffo designed in 96 - production models out late '96. Think they might have got it wrong on the KHE site (or there's something they're not telling us :LolLolLolLol: )
For your pleasure, the Jason Davies interview from Ride mag about his sig frame from August 1996:
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/JD1_zpsf8546d3d.jpg~original)
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff443/dannywhack/JD2_zps7932d1f6.jpg~original)
Oh yeah, and the car deecs were the first version ones (with the drill/whisk paint mixer top tube decals).
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i fking love the internet! nice one Danny! will have a read!....
in regards to the telephone call - i will most definitely do so Fischflo - TBH due to German efficiency i was expecting a call from KHE before i finished sending my message to them!!... unfortunately that was not the case!... :2funny:
Actually!.... i was talking to Mark Pettersson yesterday, nice chap! - i'm sure he will be able to shed some light on the matter. He worked with KHE
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I don't remember the white frame decals to be honest, with many KHE beater frames being chrome and then having clear paints as time progressed.
Definitely 96 onwards in terms of when the beaters were manufactured.
I might have some blueprints somewhere?
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if you do man that would be awesome! thank you....
i noticed in the article that Danny posted, JD talks about the chap in the US that designed them - his name (what looks like) Mike Maas or Mass? - may be worth a try...
Danny - can you confirm Mikes Last name at alll buddy?
cheers
J
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It's Maas :daumenhoch:
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Hi Guys - The 2003 Blue Beater in now for sale as you see it in the pic at the top of this post if anyone is interested
I will be posting in on the for sale feed on here too very soon
Get in touch if you are interested
Cheers
J
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Early beater for me :daumenhoch:
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cheers man.... the early Beater is the Chosen One! :)
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..no luck eh? KHE couldn't help you out at all...? >:( ...how bout bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=313368 DirtyBoyLloydy, maybe he'd take some quality pics and then post them to Del and ask him if he would even be able to repro decals from those pics ..or post a thread here .. on how to go on about repro'ing them. - There must be a way to get these stickers stuck on you Beater.... :knuppel2:
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thanks for the tips fella. I emailed Del today... nothing back as yet. I thought the owner of khe would have been my best shot.... no joy. nice of him to get back to me though, he also answered some of my other beater questions... top!
will keep trying.... :uglystupid2:
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Do away with the bake bean head tube version keep the early frame :-)there's some nos khe grindiscs that came on the high end completes about but there on the us ebay,well worth getting though,I might be able to track you down some khe fat bob bars if there not cut down to short,the town I live in used to be flooded with khe parts,always liked the beaters :-)
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hay ste. yeah the blue 2003 beater is for sale on pretty much every site going to be honest. .. just trying to find the right buyer. dome fat bobs would be nice. if uncut.....
I saw a grind disc today on bay... was looking at getting it. think it had a few marks though..... from what I can tell... people either loved them or loathed them lol..... personally. .. I love em
will check out the US bay now. cheers... let me know about other bits as you come across them. cheers buddy