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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: Jaymz on May 06, 2014, 07:15 PM
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So continually annoyed by the consistently rising prices of parts, I persuaded the engineer at work to help me with a little project in return for Stella Artois
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First quill attempt, got a bit too warm drilling the centre out and warped a bit
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/aa130/CUINHELLJAYMZ/aefae41980e8da257405d261919bb333_zps9510e0fe.jpg)
The body, not shaped yet, used M8 bolts but turned the cap heads down, the final shape will be close to an unstamped tuf neck with the 45 degree corners lopped off, I have two main bodies at this phase so far
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Finally the hardware and completed quills, I was going to buy the hardware off rooski, but thought, I've made it this far, I may as well have a crack at making all of it. So bolts were ordered, then jammed into the hungry jaws of the lathe and a 10.4mm drill was rammed down its middle to drop the M10 bolt through, the wedges were a toad to make, we only have very archaic kit at our place so getting the angles of the wedges to match the quill was an arse as the job had to be taken off due to proper work needing to be done, and it never a goes back right after so it took some jiggling to get the angles right again
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I'm hoping tomorrow I will get the time to take the corners off the bodies and add the holes for the quill
I'm going to highly polish one and leave the other one almost in its machined finish, just a quick scotch pad clean up to remove the dirty marks.
A day of success and failure today, I should be posting pics of two complete stems, unfortunately I'm not
While hauling the quills into the body, the hollow bolts ,of which I had only two, both fractured with too much pressure, so the remain unfinished now until next week.
But as you can see the final shape is sorted now and I gave one a quick scotch padding and I like the finish
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa130/CUINHELLJAYMZ/361f231ed38224036d9c4bbcdf609524_zps74d93ca1.jpg)
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So here it is all finished apart from I'm going to polish one (especially now after I hit the top cap with 1" spanner.
The pics don't really do them justice, the machining marks are almost sexual!! And I realise the top cap isn't straight, she who must be obeyed was yelling at me as dinner was ready!!
Enjoy
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So today, I had a go at polishing the one that I damaged during the assembly process, I am not a fan of highly polished bling, especially on my ridden hard dirty shltters, so I wanted to lightly polish and keep the machining marks, I used the softest buffing wheel I have, and didn't use wet and or any sort of prep, just straight on the wheel, and the result is, well fantastic, it's better than I expected for sure, I'm contemplating doing the other one now. iPhone pics yet again do no justice
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa130/CUINHELLJAYMZ/319DD9F0-60C8-4690-B074-46DD0A8DDCA6_zpstrxikhle.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa130/CUINHELLJAYMZ/9612F918-193A-4FA5-8735-5161787F3D62_zpsrteiaur6.jpg)
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Both finished and fitted
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Skills J, look great so far. :coolsmiley:
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Sweet Jay :4_17_5: :4_17_5:
Bru :daumenhoch:
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:daumenhoch: love threads like this !
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You know this is my kinda thread :daumenhoch:
Looking the nuts :4_17_5:
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You know this is my kinda thread :daumenhoch:
Looking the nuts :4_17_5:
they're beasts, when I started I went all imperial, then due to not being able to find a single 3/8" tap in the building, it changed to metric, so the large draw bolts are imperial, the size escapes me right now, but the tap was a shlt to turn into the hole it was that big, and the head is a 1" and the quill bolts are M10x140 as opposed to 3/8". The top cap should've been 5/16 which is pretty much 8mm anyway so for ease of use I had then tapped imperial, the over
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Superb is this fella :4_17_5: Can't wait 2 c them finished :coolsmiley:
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That's some amazing work there. :coolsmiley:
looking forward to seeing these finished :daumenhoch:
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Incredible stuff Jay :shocked: :daumenhoch:
Almost be a shame to use it when it's done.
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good lad ...top bombing :2gunsfiring_v1:
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Excellent work amigo :4_17_5:
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Excellent work. :daumenhoch:
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Good work Jaymz, sure, your mate has the talent, because we know you havent!!!
Can I get a green anno one??
nah, only kidding, nice one!!
MM
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Good work Jaymz, sure, your mate has the talent, because we know you havent!!!
Can I get a green anno one??
nah, only kidding, nice one!!
MM
:LolLolLolLol: we all know really I'm the project manager!!
I'd love to make you an anno green one, the issue though isn't the raw materials as it's under £15 it's the hours and hours and hours of labour, handmade in the uk, just isn't viable, porkchop sell the diacompe repop versions of tuf necks at £40 machine made in bulk and they have no personality if you know what I mean, but you can't knock it, its got the looks and none of the price
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nice1 Jay, looking good so far :daumenhoch:
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That looks cool :daumenhoch:
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really good idea,am a qualified cnc engineer,and have thought about buying a cnc milling machine & cnc lathe,i wouldnt mind making parts that would be needed as i know what ya mean by prices that ya pay for old parts etc,will have a word with my old boss and see what he could do for me in a few parts,and i'll need to look into the machines,then if you guys needed something,id do it for you,and i wouldnt put the arm in :D :daumenhoch:
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Looks good Jay :daumenhoch:
Always good to see a bit of British engineering on here :Great_Britain: ...... unless your mate is from Poland :D
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Brilliant fella, would love the skills, equipment but most of all the time to have a go at something like this :smitten:
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Reminds me of 1982 and the metal work shop at school making my own alloy powerdisks and spiders :daumenhoch:
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Great work and very cool. :daumenhoch:
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Good work. I want one!!
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A day of success and failure today, I should be posting pics of two complete stems, unfortunately I'm not
While hauling the quills into the body, the hollow bolts ,of which I had only two, both fractured with too much pressure, so the remain unfinished now until next week.
But as you can see the final shape is sorted now and I gave one a quick scotch padding and I like the finish
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa130/CUINHELLJAYMZ/361f231ed38224036d9c4bbcdf609524_zps74d93ca1.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa130/CUINHELLJAYMZ/faad8642d38fb1831dfee7db54453d80_zpse3b3d749.jpg)
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Jaymz, it may be a good idea to get those big bolts heat treated or case hardened buddy.
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Very nice Jay , loving the finish aswell 8)
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Jaymz, it may be a good idea to get those big bolts heat treated or case hardened buddy.
it's more a case of don't drill the fookers out by 10mm down the centre first!! They just had no strength, the old engineer at work showed concern but said he'll try it first, will buy three bolts this time, two to make hollow, and one solid to draw the shafts in
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R they finished yet ? :crazy2:
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I want to see this too ::)
R they finished yet ? :crazy2:
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So close to finishing now. New bolts turned up with the driver today. So hopefully they will be assembled tomorrow now. Bought extra bolts so I can use them for putting the stems together. THen replace with the hollowed out ones
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So here it is all finished apart from I'm going to polish one (especially now after I hit the top cap with 1" spanner.
The pics don't really do them justice, the machining marks are almost sexual!! And I realise the top cap isn't straight, she who must be obeyed was yelling at me as dinner was ready!!
Enjoy
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa130/CUINHELLJAYMZ/b493189f77b1aa6bec2f696883a32242_zpsf76c28a2.jpg)
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Now thats RAD :4_17_5: Bloody sexy aye thay :coolsmiley:
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Top work that. "wantit"
A pro xl in red please!!!
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Bob on them our kid :4_17_5:
Machining marks are ace :daumenhoch:
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wow :shocked: :D ..now tiger into top!
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Great work there Jay!! :daumenhoch:
Top stuff!!
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Absolutely fookin marvellous they are bud :bow:
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Cheers everyone, I'm super stoked with them
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top job :daumenhoch:
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top job :daumenhoch:
cheers Phil, from a resto master as legendary as yourself, I take that as the highest compliment
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Excellent job :daumenhoch: just need to engrave tuf neck on it now :D need a pic up when ya polish one 8)
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Great work and top skills :4_17_5:
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Turned out great Jay , nice work mate :daumenhoch:
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tops is that Jay , :daumenhoch:
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Very nice Jay, you cut the 3 flats at the back nice an equal, some of the original tuf neck's are terribly cut at the back. :daumenhoch:
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awsum them Jaymz , very impressed :daumenhoch:
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They've come out top notch jay! Great work mate :daumenhoch:
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They look superb :4_17_5: You've every right to be chuffed with them.
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Nice job. :4_17_5:
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Nice to see them finished, totally RAD. :daumenhoch:
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Great work and very cool. :daumenhoch:
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Great work Jaymz . :4_17_5:
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So today, I had a go at polishing the one that I damaged during the assembly process, I am not a fan of highly polished bling, especially on my ridden hard dirty shltters, so I wanted to lightly polish and keep the machining marks, I used the softest buffing wheel I have, and didn't use wet and or any sort of prep, just straight on the wheel, and the result is, well fantastic, it's better than I expected for sure, I'm contemplating doing the other one now. iPhone pics yet again do no justice
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa130/CUINHELLJAYMZ/319DD9F0-60C8-4690-B074-46DD0A8DDCA6_zpstrxikhle.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa130/CUINHELLJAYMZ/9612F918-193A-4FA5-8735-5161787F3D62_zpsrteiaur6.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa130/CUINHELLJAYMZ/DADFBD87-E087-4CB2-8FE8-E3103E0BA24C_zpsongeodtv.jpg)
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Beautiful fella . Machine marks look ace :coolsmiley:
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Controversial
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oooh put that up in your museum thread and watch the sparks fly :LolLolLolLol:
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oooh put that up in your museum thread and watch the sparks fly :LolLolLolLol:
just about too clint, the thread on there Facebook page is nothing but positive, one comment of lame out of a hell of a lot more lovin
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Little update, the polished and decaled one is now sat on my freestyler next to my home made flex fighter, it feels good to know I've made them both
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Both finished and fitted
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Looks the business.
I reckon you should get some custom decals made up and call it the "Jaymz-Neck" :slayer:
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wow - very impressed Jay :daumenhoch:
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Cheers man
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Top skillz mate, look smart.
I'll have an orange one & a green un when you get a mo :daumenhoch:
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Look sweet in situ :daumenhoch:
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Mat I'd love to make more and let radsters have them, but the time and effort that goes into each one, would make them horribly expensive
I do have plans though to make an XL, with an ESP twist at some point
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They look :4_17_5:
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