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Title: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: uk-fresh on August 20, 2014, 02:51 PM
Hi

In the process of bringing a Mongoose Cali back to life. Just purchased a Tangeseiki  headset but cannot get the bottom headset over the threaded forks. The headset does not have a thread so assumed would slip straight over. Have I bought the wrong headset or are my forks the wrong ones that were originally on this bike?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: pickle on August 20, 2014, 04:30 PM
Put some pictures up as it doesn't sound right?
Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: uk-fresh on August 20, 2014, 04:52 PM
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Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: uk-fresh on August 20, 2014, 04:53 PM
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Sorry forgot to post forks
Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: oldschoolace on August 20, 2014, 04:59 PM
Is it only a cats whisker off going on or quite a margin. If the former, sit the ring on a hot plate or stove so it expands slightly then seat it square and tap down with a long section of tube which either matches the diameter of the inner section of ring or the outer. Dont hit it around the bearing curved section... if that makes sense  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: CustardLips on August 20, 2014, 05:02 PM
That's the bearing race that fits onto the bottom of the stearer tube. It doesn't screw on... it needs tw@ting on with a hammer.  :daumenhoch:
I use this (http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/CustardLips/IMAG0225.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/CustardLips/media/IMAG0225.jpg.html)
A piece of (I think it's 25mm ) copper pipe and keep belting it till it's on.  :daumenhoch:
Oh, put a bit of grease or vaseline around the raised part of the tube to ease it in/on... you know the score.   ;)
Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: CustardLips on August 20, 2014, 05:06 PM
Is it only a cats whisker off going on or quite a margin. If the former, sit the ring on a hot plate or stove so it expands slightly then seat it square and tap down with a long section of tube which either matches the diameter of the inner section of ring or the outer. Dont hit it around the bearing curved section... if that makes sense  :daumenhoch:
The hot plate/stove is a good idea too...  put some fookin gloves on tho.  :shocked:  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: uk-fresh on August 20, 2014, 05:10 PM
Cheers guys, I will give it a go. :)
Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: snoopy72 on August 20, 2014, 10:36 PM
That's the bearing race that fits onto the bottom of the stearer tube. It doesn't screw on... it needs tw@ting on with a hammer.  :daumenhoch:
I use this (http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/CustardLips/IMAG0225.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/CustardLips/media/IMAG0225.jpg.html)
A piece of (I think it's 25mm ) copper pipe and keep belting it till it's on.  :daumenhoch:
Oh, put a bit of grease or vaseline around the raised part of the tube to ease it in/on... you know the score.   ;)
I'd  turn it upside down then put wood on the bottom of the steer tube and twat that so the copper tube is against the ground, doing it the way it is in the photo runs the risk of damaging the fork drop outs :daumenhoch: if that makes any sense :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: Retrodan72 on August 20, 2014, 10:40 PM
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Sorry forgot to post forks

Looks like your forks have been rechromed?  ???

If this is the case, then you'll struggle.  :-\
Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: rodriguez on August 20, 2014, 11:40 PM
There are two sizes of crown race 26.4mm and 27mm.

http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-headsets.html

I had a set of forks recently that were 27mm although it's only .6mm if that's what it is that crown race will never fit.

Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: CustardLips on August 21, 2014, 02:39 AM
That's the bearing race that fits onto the bottom of the stearer tube. It doesn't screw on... it needs tw@ting on with a hammer.  :daumenhoch:
I use this (http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/CustardLips/IMAG0225.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/CustardLips/media/IMAG0225.jpg.html)
A piece of (I think it's 25mm ) copper pipe and keep belting it till it's on.  :daumenhoch:
Oh, put a bit of grease or vaseline around the raised part of the tube to ease it in/on... you know the score.   ;)
I'd  turn it upside down then put wood on the bottom of the steer tube and twat that so the copper tube is against the ground, doing it the way it is in the photo runs the risk of damaging the fork drop outs :daumenhoch: if that makes any sense :LolLolLolLol:
Fookin hell mate it's not a square peg in a round hole and usually doesnt take much tw@ting to get on. Put the timber under the dropouts whilst belting the other end with your best Franz. Cr-Mo v's 3×2... there's only gonna be one winner.  Done this many times without any damage to any forks I have abused in this way.   :D
Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on August 21, 2014, 09:09 AM
I use a file and/or a dremmel to shave a bit of the forks. Each to their own. Whatever works for you is good  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Newbie help please. Tange Headset
Post by: uk-fresh on September 07, 2014, 05:39 PM
Cheers Guys

Took all advice, filed down slightly, heated up and put metal tube over and banged it one. Lovely!
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