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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: bigfatolly on October 20, 2014, 07:55 PM
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Very quiet in the For Sale section ,and pretty much everywhere else on here from what I can see.
Took the plunge and joined the Rad Facebook group and that seems a bit busier,a fair few parts being bought and sold on there.
Shame as I don't think the FB format is as good as a proper website.
Thoughts ?
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Can't be arsed with facebook, I probably miss out on a few sales and dib dobs, but that said RAD offers me a reasonable amount of confidence / trust when I'm dealing. Each to their own though :daumenhoch:
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Facebook is good for quick, small sales but when it comes to expensive items, I think people are weary unless they have dealt with the person before or know them from Rad or the Museum.
The thing with facebook, you make a quick sale as it is instant to upload photo's and if anybody needs any more, they can be done on your phone and uploaded within seconds. The chat is instant too so you can a full conversation with many people in real time.
The downfall of Facebook, is all the idiots that troll and the pages disappear into the abyss after a day. There is no reference pages or proper layout like Rad.
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^^^^ like Terry said :daumenhoch:
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Facebook is full of money grabbing morons who think their shit item is the crown jewels and when you comment by fook their teddies get thrown. It's these idiots that are putting the prices up. Use rad and fook them off!
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Facebook is full of money grabbing morons who think their shit item is the crown jewels and when you comment by fook their teddies get thrown. It's these idiots that are putting the prices up. Use rad and fook them off!
They are everywhere though Nick. There is this at the moment on RB.com The guy buys it from Ebay and tries to triple his money on RB.
http://www.raleighburner.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php't=43319
Then there is this guy who wants triple what his bike is worth and throws the toys from the pram when people try to give him advice ;D
http://www.raleighburner.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php't=43304
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Be a shame to lose what's been built up on Rad over the last 10 yrs for a solitary moment in time on facebook. :'(
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Why don't the Rad Facebook page be closed down then maybe sales on here may pick up.
Also it's a way of people not paying for a S/S tag to sell on here :-X
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That's what I was thinking Gish.
If people are selling on FB for free,they may not renew their SS Tags and that will have a knock on effect for this site as regards the upkeep and MK etc.
I suppose though even if the Rad group on FB was shut down ,there are other groups on there where you can sell your parts.
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Be a shame to lose what's been built up on Rad over the last 10 yrs for a solitary moment in time on facebook. :'(
Very very true. I will always be on here though :D
I posted this today on here at 1454hrs >> http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,177920.0.html
It has had 25 views and no replies. I posted it on the Museum FB page at 1934 and got my answer, with picture confirmation, within 10 minutes.
That's the sign of the times on here. Many people with the knowledge are just not around anymore. Take a build for instance. You spend months and plenty of time, preperation and money getting a build done and when you post on here, you may get 200 odd views but only 3 or 4 comments. People would rather hit the like button than take a few momnets to write a couple of words. Some say "so what, you built the bike for yourself, that's all that matters" etc...True but, it is nice for people to acknowledge the work that has gone into the build. After all, that's the spirit of BMX and a few warm comments go a long way to make someone feel they have done something worthwhile :daumenhoch:
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Don't get me on the Museum facebook page!
What a bunch of idiots.
What's this worth questions do my noggin in. If it's not a million $ they kick off.
You can't get a sensible answer out of most of them.
What is this? Another bonehead question: DO YOU OWN HOMEWORK FFS!
I've left that stupid group!
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I've protested against the FB page for ages now, and been ignored.
There's absolutely no need for it whatsoever NOW.
Close it and drive the serious BMX collectors/enthusiasts/riders back here.
It's THAT simple.
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I've protested against the FB page for ages now, and been ignored.
There's absolutely no need for it whatsoever NOW.
Close it and drive the serious BMX collectors/enthusiasts/riders back here.
It's THAT simple.
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whos the man with the delete button Dan ???
i think he needs a wee nudge :-X
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Kill it with Fire! >:D
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I've protested against the FB page for ages now, and been ignored.
There's absolutely no need for it whatsoever NOW.
Close it and drive the serious BMX collectors/enthusiasts/riders back here.
It's THAT simple.
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whos the man with the delete button Dan ???
i think he needs a wee nudge :-X
Griff and Ed control it mate.
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I agree it needs kicking in to touch. :2gunsfiring_v1:
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Added a little fun poll,let's see what everyone thinks....
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Face what ??
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Fook it off once and for all FFS !!!
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Griff & Ed hope your reading this fellas :LolLolLolLol:
But I blame Dave Brummie cos he's stopped dibbing everything now :LolLolLolLol:
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I'm not on Facebook, and have no intention of joining it either...
The short time i've been on here i've gained a lot of valuable information...
Spent a fortune mind you, but that's part and parcel of the love for BMX...
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Get rid of the Facebook site and get this forum back to how it was.....
A great set of guys, same hobby, same attitudes and same admiration of each other's builds.
Not to mention the SST contributions must be suffering too.
Kill it. :daumenhoch:
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I use Facebook a lot, but ther are that many other bmx site on there now it's just getting lost. So my vote is yes shut it down and get the real site sorted out .
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For the record, I don't control it and neither does Ed, we just help with admins along with other mods
It was set up by Nick when the site went down before as a backup and has carried on from there as an extension of this place
While it will never replace Rad as a useful long term resource it does come in handy for short term things like organising events/sharing pics and it has brought a few decent new members to the forum (hands up if you found the FB group first before coming here...)
Not convinced by any arguments that simply deleting the group will suddenly give the forum a boost, it's just not as simple as that - there are dozens of other FB BMX groups that people could just as easily use as a substitute. Site tag sales are not exactly suffering either as true radsters know where the money goes regardless of whether they use the sales section here or not
Other older-tech forums have suffered badly because of social media but we continue to add new members all the time, inevitably some long standing members will move on but then you often see people return after a break.
If you want to give the forum a boost then start a thread, sell stuff here first exclusively or post links on the FB group to this place
In my humble opinion binning off the FB group is just like sticking your head in the sand and hoping the problem goes away by itself - it won't!
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darent use facebook so keep everythingon here link it fromfacebook to here
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Facebook stinks of Dog sh1 t :10_2_12:
Fu ck it off and the people and sales will flood back to the site ^"^
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In my humble opinion binning off the FB group is just like sticking your head in the sand and hoping the problem goes away by itself - it won't!
The fact that we admit there is a 'problem' seems a good enough reason to review the benifits of the Facebook page.
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The voting speaks for itself. :daumenhoch:
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In my humble opinion binning off the FB group is just like sticking your head in the sand and hoping the problem goes away by itself - it won't!
The fact that we admit there is a 'problem' seems a good enough reason to review the benifits of the Facebook page.
The 'problem' I am referring to is the growth of social media in general and widespread changes in people's surfing habits, not specifically the rad FB group.
Just for fun I've started a poll over on there to try and get some feedback on how many people use both or just the FB page.
Look forward to all the comments when people discover the new Rad twitter account
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#cantwait
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Understand what you are saying about using it to organise a ride out for example,but you can easily set up a dedicated page to help spread the word about that and link to it from here.
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Griff , I can see your points but to be perfectly honest Rad is Rad and belongs at :radbmxsmilie: not on some social media drivel . If someone wants to join one of the many cast off FB groups well that's there choice but let's keep RAD forum based . As for people finding the RAD FB page before joining here , that maybe true but let's face it, if your into this hobby it ain't going to be long before you find or are directed to the UK's biggest and best old school BMX FORUM !! ;)
Just my opinion ........ but i hate fookin facebook anyway !! :D
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In my humble opinion binning off the FB group is just like sticking your head in the sand and hoping the problem goes away by itself - it won't!
The fact that we admit there is a 'problem' seems a good enough reason to review the benifits of the Facebook page.
The 'problem' I am referring to is the growth of social media in general and widespread changes in people's surfing habits, not specifically the rad FB group.
Just for fun I've started a poll over on there to try and get some feedback on how many people use both or just the FB page.
Look forward to all the comments when people discover the new Rad twitter account
The poll on FB will only prove that the people that vote for 'I only come here' are either banned members, flippers or people too lazy to register. :daumenhoch:
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The voting speaks for itself. :daumenhoch:
It certainly does
You should see how many people have voted on FB already :teef:
Let's see how many new members we can get on here then :daumenhoch:
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Wasn't having a go griff just merely making a point. Sorry if you thought I was.
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i did nt even have to think about my decision .
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The trouble with Facebook, anybody can open a page and call it something BMX related. Once they have done that, they invite everybody from the other pages. Before you know it, you have a large number of pages in your group list which you can spend all night looking through. When someone posts on one page, you get to know about it. You go take a look, before you know, the night has gone and another night wasted away from this Forum.
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Since no one wants to say it, I will, that horse has bolted . Maybe shutting down the fb page may have worked once but there are others skyway mans and some bloke off Facebooks to name a few. Without the fb page you would be foolish to believe that people will just come on here instead, it won't happen, they who prefer fb will just use the other sites instead . It would be great if we were all on here, but closing the sister page to this won't make that happen the Facebook page should be an advert for the forum bringing more to the page and closing it will send them to the other pages where radbmx will never get mentioned,in fact more likely discouraged and slagged off, ironically I found this page when forum went down 18months ago and fb page started and if it wasn't for the fb page I would never have found this site and had it wasn't there as most of you want I would probably never know about it. If people aren't using this page. I much prefer it on here but the fact is losing rad fb will make no difference at all. I'm just saying it as I see it so please don't shoot the messenger
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For those of you not on Facebook
The vast majority of people that have voted say they use both
Out of the few people that say they only use FB, one of them was a major sponsor of MK (mr Porkchop) and another has pledged to give the forum another go
Jono made a point about how he wouldn't have found the forum without FB (well maybe he would, but probably not as fast)
I stand by what I've said, the best thing people on here can do to make the forum better is to simply spend more time reading & posting, you're not going to make the place more attractive or welcoming by deleting a Facebook group. Nothing will stop me from coming on here but as long as the FB group continues to run I'll do what I can to let people know there's a proper forum here full of useful info and top blokes
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And if more votes are cast on this subject than are cast on everyone's hard work building bikes for botm Then that would be a real shame and may be the real problem right there we all have posted photos and comments on hear and seen 100+ views only to have 1 or 2 comments maybe site supporter doesn't just mean paying a tenner and more paying attention to others inputs too
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What about using the facebook page to advertise sneak previews of things on here like BOTM and the sale page but direct them back here to get all the juicy bits that we all enjoy. Obviously letting people vote on BOTM on facebook would be daft but putting one picture of each entry might get people to come on to see the rest of the pictures to have a vote and a nosy round while they're here.
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What about using the facebook page to advertise sneak previews of things on here like BOTM and the sale page but direct them back here to get all the juicy bits that we all enjoy. Obviously letting people vote on BOTM on facebook would be daft but putting one picture of each entry might get people to come on to see the rest of the pictures to have a vote and a nosy round while they're here.
No we're talking links from here on there would definitely be a plus fore the forum, great shout lets encourage them onto here rather that try and get rid of the competition
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What about using the facebook page to advertise sneak previews of things on here like BOTM and the sale page but direct them back here to get all the juicy bits that we all enjoy. Obviously letting people vote on BOTM on facebook would be daft but putting one picture of each entry might get people to come on to see the rest of the pictures to have a vote and a nosy round while they're here.
That does go on with links to BOTM, also some people post pics of stuff for sale and include a link back to the forum. Anything that drives traffic back here can only be a good thing
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Wasn't having a go griff just merely making a point. Sorry if you thought I was.
Sorry Steve in all the excitement I missed this earlier.
Didn't think that at al mate, just didn't want anyone to misconstrue what I was saying ;)
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For those of you not on Facebook
The vast majority of people that have voted say they use both
Out of the few people that say they only use FB, one of them was a major sponsor of MK (mr Porkchop) and another has pledged to give the forum another go
Jono made a point about how he wouldn't have found the forum without FB (well maybe he would, but probably not as fast)
I stand by what I've said, the best thing people on here can do to make the forum better is to simply spend more time reading & posting, you're not going to make the place more attractive or welcoming by deleting a Facebook group. Nothing will stop me from coming on here but as long as the FB group continues to run I'll do what I can to let people know there's a proper forum here full of useful info and top blokes
That's all well and good Griff ......... us loyal RAD forum users will continue to keep the original site ticking over while all the Rad facebook users continue to benefit from sales we never see , ride out pictures we never see and general Rad banter we never see ::) !! All that should be on here not FB .
That is by no means a dig at you personally mate , far from it as you are a regular on here but there's far too many old forum members who contribute to the FB pages and to be brutally honest couldn't give a flying fook what is happening on here . They are also the one's who are first to moan ' oh the Rad site is quiet ' or will be the first one's complaining when they need to do a bit of research for a build and they can't find it because RAD is no more . There's no history on Facebook !! I said 18 months ago FB will be the death of this place and upto now i ain't seen anything to make me change my mind . One things for sure though I'll be one of the last out the door when they turn the fookin lights out . Oh and i won't be joining no social media shite instead ...... i'd rather have a season ticket for the rats than go down that route :D
Im off to bed now .......... after i have checked what everyone has had for supper on my FB page :whistle:
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As above I think improving what we already have on rad to start off with and be a bit more welcoming to noobs even if they just join up to find the value etc , I find some a bit harsh to noobs even if they are just wanting values etc you never know we were all noobs once , I think a massive thing would be to get the parts date info of the site up properly it got started and a few have put some pics up but no real info in it , I do think there's a gap there as bmx museum reference info used to be quite good but that's not the same now and martins bike has gone now , the frameworks all there ready in the parts section on rad but it just has random photos in which aren't really any help to anyone but I believe we could make the reference section the best as combined on here the members have really all the parts and the combined knowledge on here it could be great , like ages of the parts how they changed how long in production etc
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there's far too many old forum members who contribute to the FB pages and to be brutally honest couldn't give a flying fook what is happening on here .
One things for sure though I'll be one of the last out the door when they turn the fookin lights out .
Agree with most of what you've said Joffy, all I'm saying is deleting the rad FB page won't do anything to suddenly make lazy or uncaring people suddenly start giving a fook or wanting to post pictures or start sales threads, if people want to offload their tat on FB there are dozens of places to do that - largely comprised of rad members :teef:
It would be nice if everything stayed within the rad community but times have changed, as for your last comment I'll be there with you mate, I love this place and don't intend on leaving any time soon
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I don't think there's any question of removing the Face Book page, it is what it is. Think of the forum as the club and the FB page as the boys own-esq magazine. I personally don't think it's had as much impact as some of you seem to think, the site's just as busy as it was this time 3 years ago and we were complaining about how quite it was getting back then too.
The site and the FB page are but tools we use sitting in our arm chairs, where it's really at are the meetings, the ride outs, the parks, the tracks, the trails, grinding kerbs out on the street or maybe the chase for parts, bikes hanging from the rafters , starting that build or will I ever finish that build the way I wanted it in the first place without breaking the bank.
The Face book page is just another thing.
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Loose it, shut it down. One site.
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Ok, how about a compromise, NO sales on the FB page, ALL sales must be via the forum and MUST be completed by SST holders using the forum?
We could at least trial this.
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Vote in , and my vote was YES :daumenhoch: shut it down ...
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I'm an advocate of Facebook and even I voted to shut it down.
It's full of idiots that are not members on here who are gaining a free audience for their ridiculously over priced tat!
Get rid of the FB page and police the sales better on here. There are lots of thinly veiled sale threads by newbies on the BMX Chat and Welcome pages.
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Ok, how about a compromise, NO sales on the FB page, ALL sales must be via the forum and MUST be completed by SST holders using the forum?
We could at least trial this.
My choice also, no sales on the FB group.
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I use both. However, I have been a regular member on several forums over the years, mainly car restoration clubs and so on, and I can honestly say :radbmxsmilie: is by far the best forum I have used. As a point of reference it cannot be bettered and Fb cannot rival that. Posts on there are easy and quick, but are just as easily lost down the list of posts. Good for making a quick sale but lacking when it comes to research.
I have seen one of the old forums I was a member of completely collapse as the Fb version thrived.
I also don't think closing down the RAD Fb group will make any difference on here as there are now too many BMX a Fb groups to attract Fb users. Fb can be used to your advantage too though; I set up a closed Birmingham WHEELS page a couple of months ago and have since found and contacted the majority of the old WHEELS team, managed to speak directly with the old team manager, several if the Dutch team, have located numerous more frames and managed to buy two more myself.
Fb has a massive global footprint and I would never have managed to find all of those people without it.
Fb and :radbmxsmilie: both have a place I think.
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Have never registered on Facebook so couldn't comment, but what I can say is this site has been invaluable to me in terms of research and peoples helpfulness in answering queries I have posted.
If the facebook site allows people to buy and sell without an SST then I am sure that some people will take that option, thus denying this site funds towards running costs etc. If the facebook is closed down then these people may well go to another facebook page, but they wouldn't be trading on the goodwill and reputation that has been built up by RADBMX.
The SST is a bargain in my eyes, if there was an old school BMX magazine for sale at £5 issue I would buy it every month and still not have access to as much material that's on here - all for a contribution of a tenner!
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I use the forum and FB as they both have strengths and weaknesses.
I'm not sure banning sales on the FB will help. Many of the sales that are on the RAD FB page are also on quite a few of the other FB pages that many of us also follow as well. It's not unusual for the same item to appear on my timeline two or three times.
Perhaps only allowing sales to be posted if they have a link to the item when it is posted on the RAD forum. That way the item has to be posted on the forum first, giving Site Supporters a slight advantage. Not sure how easy to police it would be though.
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It was originally stipulated that sales threads were to be only forum links but this seems to have lapsed a little.
Ditch the bitch :LolLolLolLol:
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It was originally stipulated that sales threads were to be only forum links but this seems to have lapsed a little.
Ditch the bitch :LolLolLolLol:
It's too hard to moderate due to its instant accessibility, and I wouldn't even attempt to try tbh. :daumenhoch:
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It was originally stipulated that sales threads were to be only forum links but this seems to have lapsed a little.
Ditch the bitch :LolLolLolLol:
It's too hard to moderate due to its instant accessibility, and I wouldn't even attempt to try tbh. :daumenhoch:
Slacker :LolLolLolLol:
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there is a place for both imo, for quite some time i had no laptop and so couldnt get on here (coming on here on a smart phone is a nightmare) so my only link with RAD was through the FB page :) If the RAD FB page was closed down it would not mean more people would come on here, in fact it would probably mean the complete opposite as people would just use one of the many other FB pages that exist and not get to hear about RAD at all because at least a couple of them are ANTI RAD anyway and the only mention of it on them is a slagging off.
Like it or not social media such as FB is here to stay, stop trying to be like King Canute by hold back the tide and instead use both, they both have benefits and used together would ensure that Rad survives where other forums have died.
as for not allowing people to sell on the FB page, wasn't that tried before ?
there are many pluses to the forum over the FB page and viser versa, the forum is good for info and as a referance tool, it keep posts in sections that are easy to use and dont vanish after a day or quicker.
the FB page is good for real time chat and putting pics up quickly and for instant sales/purchases.
if you shut the FB page someone will only start it up again but it wont be linked to the real RAD and then you will lose it as a tool :(
someone mentioned that it should be shut because people post photos on there that should be posted on the main site and they dont get to see them, my answer to that, join the FB page !
as Griff has said most people that use the FB page use both so no one is being lost to it.
The statment that the FB page is only used by flippers etc etc is not only untru its an insult to the many members on here that do use it.
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Just stop the sale on there, or start linking pages from here to it and only allow comments not new posts.
I voted No to shutting it down as I think it's a good entry point to get people here but if that's not happening then maybe it should be shut down.
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I am a member on Facebook but have not logged in for over a year. Don't like the site really. People are on Facebook 24-7 and get addicted to it.
I would let the FB page stay its only fair for those who use it. I guess they don't have to pay the £10 subscription fee so many like that.
I think For Sale post should be banned and kept to the Forum only as it keep the site alive otherwise it could disappear.
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If most people want sales taken off (apart from links to here) that's easy to implement very quickly
Just moderating it as it is, to ensure people only sell BMX stuff/put a price up etc is already a pain in the arse so in terms of workload there's not much difference - in fact it would probably save a bit of work and would mean only people with SSTs can sell stuff
The only reason that that restriction was removed before was due to people complaining that it's too difficult to post links to the site or difficulties accessing the forum on phones etc. Personally I would prefer this option but this needs to be your call too, don't want to keep chopping and changing as it will confuse people/piss them off
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If most people want sales taken off (apart from links to here) that's easy to implement very quickly
Just moderating it as it is, to ensure people only sell BMX stuff/put a price up etc is already a pain in the arse so in terms of workload there's not much difference - in fact it would probably save a bit of work and would mean only people with SSTs can sell stuff
The only reason that that restriction was removed before was due to people complaining that it's too difficult to post links to the site or difficulties accessing the forum on phones etc. Personally I would prefer this option but this needs to be your call too, don't want to keep chopping and changing as it will confuse people/piss them off
How fooking difficult is it to copy and paste FFS!
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a lot of people are saying ban sales on the FB page so they have to bee on here......thats not going to happen, people will just sell on one of the many other FB pages out there like they already do, most sales pop up on my news feed on 3 or 4 different pages at the same time.
you cant make people buy/sell on here and there are way to many outlets for sales now to even hope people will only use RAD.
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a lot of people are saying ban sales on the FB page so they have to bee on here......thats not going to happen, people will just sell on one of the many other FB pages out there like they already do, most sales pop up on my news feed on 3 or 4 different pages at the same time.
you cant make people buy/sell on here and there are way to many outlets for sales now to even hope people will only use RAD.
They can sell wherever they want Andy, fine with me there are as you say loads of places to sell.
If people are only using rad FB to sell then I don't care if they leave the FB group as they are not contributing to the site.
Our SST's are our life blood not some random con artist on FB.
Personally I would like to make MK weekend SST only(or maybe SST +1 guest), too many times I see people that contribute nothing to the site all year and then turn up at MK and drink free beer and have a great time. When MK is over they just go back to either not contributing to Rad or even worse bad mouthing the site.
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This all reminds me of that King Canute fella ... he had about as much luck.
I don't see any problem at all with the forum 'being quiet' ... I don't think it is even ... but it is what it is! ... I certainly would not want to encourage some of the twats I see on facebook over here.
We just need to keep on doing what we are already doing and linking things in to RAD and let things happen if they want to. Stopping sales on the RAD facebook page just gives SkywaySteff more ammo to have a pop with ... personally I'm about on both sites and don't really see that there's any problem. Old Steff said he was gonna blow us out the water with his forum which went down in flames before it even started ... we are still here doing what we do ... nothing is going to stop that :laugh:
Let just let it all be what it wants to be ... everything irie.
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We have plenty of users online on a daily/nightly basis but half the time nobodies saying fook all. Think more effort is needed from all of us. :-\
It's good to talk. :daumenhoch:
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This all reminds me of that King Canute fella ... he had about as much luck.
I used to love them from my Psychobilly days, can see what reference they have to this conversation though Ed
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Oh Sorry I thought you wrote King Kurt :LolLolLolLol:
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We have plenty of users online on a daily/nightly basis but half the time nobodies saying fook all. Think more effort is needed from all of us. :-\
It's good to talk. :daumenhoch:
Agreed Nick, far too many lurkers on here, not contributing enough, only getting just over 100 votes in the BOTM comp when there's 20 bikes entered is proof of this.
As a member, now as a Mod, I always try to start new threads whether BMX related or in the non BMX section, just simply to generate activity. It's the simple threads 'coolest TV/film cars' for example, that people loved and got involved with.
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Lets talk about the elephant in the room...
If most folk on this site spent more time contributing towards what this forum is meant to be about "BMX" rather than "what silly things annoy you" (25 pages FFS!) there would be no competition, you wouldn't even worry about FB.
There are some folk in this thread that have been on here longer than me but I can only conclude that they don't actually own a BMX - well you can't do right? I can't see anything from you in the parts reference section of this site. I gave up adding parts as I ended up feeling like a fookin show off.
TO BE CLEAR, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the lounge and banter, but (i say) contribute first, talk sh1t later. Imagine if say... since the forum rebuild, every member had added 1 OS ad or 1 OS part a week (whats that a 5 minute investment?) imagine what this site would be like now... We wouldn't be having this discussion...
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Personally the only stuff I see appearing on my newsfeed from the Facebook group page are dominated by silly for sale posts...so I ignore it.
I much prefer coming here and experiencing the madness & enjoying the hobby
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a lot of people are saying ban sales on the FB page so they have to bee on here......thats not going to happen, people will just sell on one of the many other FB pages out there like they already do, most sales pop up on my news feed on 3 or 4 different pages at the same time.
you cant make people buy/sell on here and there are way to many outlets for sales now to even hope people will only use RAD.
They can sell wherever they want Andy, fine with me there are as you say loads of places to sell.
If people are only using rad FB to sell then I don't care if they leave the FB group as they are not contributing to the site.
Our SST's are our life blood not some random con artist on FB.
Personally I would like to make MK weekend SST only(or maybe SST +1 guest), too many times I see people that contribute nothing to the site all year and then turn up at MK and drink free beer and have a great time. When MK is over they just go back to either not contributing to Rad or even worse bad mouthing the site.
this is the first year i haven't had an SST and i didn't go to MK this year either before anyone say about the free beer :LolLolLolLol:
the reason for not having a SST this year is simple, to have one you need to have paypay, paypal is insecure and easily hackable as i found out when i lost £550 a year ago which i have still not had returned to me by PP, so i dont have a PP account anymore and just transfer money direct into peoples bank accounts.
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Lets talk about the elephant in the room...
If most folk on this site spent more time contributing towards what this forum is meant to be about "BMX" rather than "what silly things annoy you" (25 pages FFS!) there would be no competition, you wouldn't even worry about FB.
There are some folk in this thread that have been on here longer than me but I can only conclude that they don't actually own a BMX - well you can't do right? I can't see anything from you in the parts reference section of this site. I gave up adding parts as I ended up feeling like a fookin show off.
TO BE CLEAR, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the lounge and banter, but (i say) contribute first, talk sh1t later. Imagine if say... since the forum rebuild, every member had added 1 OS ad or 1 OS part a week (whats that a 5 minute investment?) imagine what this site would be like now... We wouldn't be having this discussion...
This is a nice idea Chris - with regards to the talking sh1t/posting valid stuff about BMX ratio I will freely admit to being very biased towards the former though :teef: A lot of that is either due to lack of knowledge (while I will freely share what I know I'm mostly learning from others) or not having a vast collection of things to photograph (my 'collection' of 3 bikes has already been fairly well documented)
Please don't ever think that you shouldn't post for fear of being branded a show off - is always nice to see pics of the shiny things!
Probably my favourite types of threads are the 'How-to' restos (or even how not-to), would love to see more of these as they are always really useful when you've got a build on
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This site had nothing to do with F*ckbook when it started and was a hive of activity? It didn't need it then and in my opinion it doesn't need it now :daumenhoch:
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Lets talk about the elephant in the room...
If most folk on this site spent more time contributing towards what this forum is meant to be about "BMX" rather than "what silly things annoy you" (25 pages FFS!) there would be no competition, you wouldn't even worry about FB.
There are some folk in this thread that have been on here longer than me but I can only conclude that they don't actually own a BMX - well you can't do right? I can't see anything from you in the parts reference section of this site. I gave up adding parts as I ended up feeling like a fookin show off.
TO BE CLEAR, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the lounge and banter, but (i say) contribute first, talk sh1t later. Imagine if say... since the forum rebuild, every member had added 1 OS ad or 1 OS part a week (whats that a 5 minute investment?) imagine what this site would be like now... We wouldn't be having this discussion...
This is a nice idea Chris - with regards to the talking sh1t/posting valid stuff about BMX ratio I will freely admit to being very biased towards the former though :teef: A lot of that is either due to lack of knowledge (while I will freely share what I know I'm mostly learning from others) or not having a vast collection of things to photograph (my 'collection' of 3 bikes has already been fairly well documented)
Please don't ever think that you shouldn't post for fear of being branded a show off - is always nice to see pics of the shiny things!
Probably my favourite types of threads are the 'How-to' restos (or even how not-to), would love to see more of these as they are always really useful when you've got a build on
Its slightly demotivating John when you go back to add another part and you get the pink warning box but not for "someone else has just posted" but "are you sure you want to post as the thread hasn't seen any activity for 120 days"
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This all reminds me of that King Canute fella ... he had about as much luck.
I used to love them from my Psychobilly days, can see what reference they have to this conversation though Ed
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Oh Sorry I thought you wrote King Kurt :LolLolLolLol:
you were never a Psychobilly PMSL! PICTURES!!!! NOW!!!!!
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I have to agree with you Chris. This site has become about starting threads that have no connection to BMX at all. Like yourself and Dan pointed out, 100 votes in the Botm competition, that's after drilling on here and FB pages to get them to do it BUT, 25 pages of 'What silly things annoy you?'. Members can take time to write on that thread but cannot even comment on someone's build or click the bubble for someone's build in BOTM.
We need to have parts timeline too please. With the Museum's new reference section, there are just pictures for reference, no dating. I have spent a lot of time doing the Mitsuboshi/Tioga timelime due to nothing being set in stone anywhere else. Can we can take the lead in this please Mods? I would love to be able to just go to, say, 1984, and have a look at the parts that were available to help me with my build. There is nothing worse than top see something for sale, google to research for 2 or 3 hours, and come back to find it sold. A date reference section would solve that in minutes. It can easily be policed with comments being removed daily and just pictures posted in the year line.
You could also make the timelines for SST registered users only. If you need the information, make a contribution to other peoples hard work :daumenhoch:
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I would agree with Jaan that there are very few posters in the Parts and Reference sections on here (just checked and whilst I have added a few it is mainly just Jaan contributing as can been seen in the list of last posts). I post more in the similar sections on BMXMuseum and Ozbmx than here as they seem to see a lot more traffic. I tried to start a Brum WHEELS register in the same section on here and you can see the ratio of viewers to posters.
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I'm I getting déjà vu here?
Here we go again .....
I totally agree .. All sales must be on here and here only ...
SST protects Radsters and provides funds for MK!
It's a no brainer!
As for the photo stuff ... Tapatalk is idiot proof !! Even I can use it! Lol
I met so many people at MK who were on the "FB" page not on here ... Got to say it was a little annoying! :tickedoff:
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We have plenty of users online on a daily/nightly basis but half the time nobodies saying fook all. Think more effort is needed from all of us. :-\
It's good to talk. :daumenhoch:
exactly what i said earlier its not difficult to make a comment on someones thread yet more often than not on here you see threads with loads of views and little comments like it or not, and those that use fb will no doubt agree, if you post something bmx on there you will get comments (good & bad) people make an effort to congratulate/berate your builds etc ive had 100+ comments on a build ive posted on fb, and same build got me 3 or 4 on here ok,ok we can all say fook what others think about our rides, but it matters, whether u admit it or not and if i get loads of posative comments on 1 site and not on another its not difficult to understand why people go on fb
.... this thread is on page 4 already if as much passion was shown on the page as is in this thread it'd be easy......
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I would agree with Jaan that there are very few posters in the Parts and Reference sections on here (just checked and whilst I have added a few it is mainly just Jaan contributing as can been seen in the list of last posts). I post more in the similar sections on BMXMuseum and Ozbmx than here as they seem to see a lot more traffic. I tried to start a Brum WHEELS register in the same section on here and you can see the ratio of viewers to posters.
It's not just laziness, when you get to very specific subjects then often there are only a few people that are truly 'in the know'
Laziness does come into it as well though :teef:
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Terry, a timeline is a great idea, recently we had a thread about fakes and I proposed a thread to help us "spot the difference" did it happen? Will it happen? No! I'm going to tell you about what beer I drink... Isn't that as trite as FB?
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Vote in , and my vote was YES :daumenhoch: shut it down ...
in your case carl, i agree, get off facebook dont know how much more loved up photos i can take
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Vote in , and my vote was YES :daumenhoch: shut it down ...
in your case carl, i agree, get off facebook dont know how much more loved up photos i can take
i don't know Jono, carls other half is a damm sight easier on the eye than his robinsons ;) :LolLolLolLol:
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Rather than clutter up individual threads by putting :bump: comments in them, just wanted to remind people that there are some lovely parts of the forum which they might not have explored yet - the TECH & RESTO STICKIES!!!
tbh I prefer that the photo threads aren't filled with comments that detract from the subject, but looking at the view count they are certainly well-read
have a look here if you haven't been in for a while
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/board,32.0.html the advert scans by year are always good for a look
If you have something to add then go for it
I would like to nominate someone to do a proper DX resto thread (or tell me where I can find one) but it's occurred to me that this thread is now being slowly derailed by positive suggestions
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Terry, a timeline is a great idea, recently we had a thread about fakes and I proposed a thread to help us "spot the difference" did it happen? Will it happen? No! I'm going to tell you about what beer I drink... Isn't that as trite as FB?
It's true mate. How many people on here bought one of the 'NOS' DC double bolt seat clamps a few months ago when there seemed to be a mass lot of NOS ones about?
I bet you wouldn't like it when you realise you actually bought a fake guys. There was a thread started on the Museum about them and the differences between them, when someone noticed their sudden arrival on the market. They came from Belgium/Denmark. It put me off buying three of them.
A good example for having a 'Spot the Difference' thread. People can make up their own minds then whether to buy or not :daumenhoch:
PS:- I don't drink beer Chris ;D
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DX resto thread (or tell me where I can find one)
Here >> http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=123605
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DX resto thread (or tell me where I can find one)
Here >> http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=123605
Here >>http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,176177.0.html
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Terry, a timeline is a great idea, recently we had a thread about fakes and I proposed a thread to help us "spot the difference" did it happen? Will it happen? No! I'm going to tell you about what beer I drink... Isn't that as trite as FB?
It's true mate. How many people on here bought one of the 'NOS' DC double bolt seat clamps a few months ago when there seemed to be a mass lot of NOS ones about?
I bet you wouldn't like it when you realise you actually bought a fake guys. There was a thread started on the Museum about them and the differences between them, when someone noticed their sudden arrival on the market. They came from Belgium/Denmark. It put me off buying three of them.
A good example for having a 'Spot the Difference' thread. People can make up their own minds then whether to buy or not :daumenhoch:
PS:- I don't drink beer Chris ;D
fook
i think i have had my pants pulled down on this
i traded a black tuf neck clamp for one :'(
on here too :knuppel2:
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Terry, a timeline is a great idea, recently we had a thread about fakes and I proposed a thread to help us "spot the difference" did it happen? Will it happen? No! I'm going to tell you about what beer I drink... Isn't that as trite as FB?
It's true mate. How many people on here bought one of the 'NOS' DC double bolt seat clamps a few months ago when there seemed to be a mass lot of NOS ones about?
I bet you wouldn't like it when you realise you actually bought a fake guys. There was a thread started on the Museum about them and the differences between them, when someone noticed their sudden arrival on the market. They came from Belgium/Denmark. It put me off buying three of them.
A good example for having a 'Spot the Difference' thread. People can make up their own minds then whether to buy or not :daumenhoch:
PS:- I don't drink beer Chris ;D
fook
i think i have had my pants pulled down on this
i traded a black tuf neck clamp for one :'(
on here too :knuppel2:
is there a link to the thread ?
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DX resto thread (or tell me where I can find one)
Here >> http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=123605
Here >>http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,176177.0.html
Paul (Monkian) did a good one aswell http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,131361.msg1264028.html#msg1264028
Try finding one of those on Facebook :D
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well i think it should go on the vote above
if any facebook radbmx only users wish to have their vote count, they can join the main site and cast their vote
i voted to get rid but if the overall vote is to keep it then thats fine, fair votin :daumenhoch:
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well i think it should go on the vote above
if any facebook radbmx only users wish to have their vote count, they can join the main site and cast their vote
i voted to get rid but if the overall vote is to keep it then thats fine, fair votin :daumenhoch:
trouble is most of the "no" vote is coming from those that dont use it, yet you want to take it away from those of us that do >:(
some seem to think its the reason why there is things supposedly wrong with the main site, well its not and getting rid of it wont change anything here, people wont suddenly come flooding on here, they will go to other FB pages and not even hear about RAD.
when most people go online now to find somewhere to talk about something the first place they look is social media because its quicker and easier, without a FB page to use as an advert for the main site eventually it will die. :(
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well i think it should go on the vote above
if any facebook radbmx only users wish to have their vote count, they can join the main site and cast their vote
i voted to get rid but if the overall vote is to keep it then thats fine, fair votin :daumenhoch:
trouble is most of the "no" vote is coming from those that dont use it, yet you want to take it away from those of us that do >:(
the vote is the vote
the facebook page has had 90 replies of which 75 said they use both. if they cast a vote on here and the vote goes in favour to keep then it stays
is that not the fairest way? i use both but want to try and safeguard the future of this site and not a satellite group tbh and thats why I voted to get rid
no point in speculating the outcome of the vote until all votes are cast?
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well i think it should go on the vote above
if any facebook radbmx only users wish to have their vote count, they can join the main site and cast their vote
i voted to get rid but if the overall vote is to keep it then thats fine, fair votin :daumenhoch:
trouble is most of the "no" vote is coming from those that dont use it, yet you want to take it away from those of us that do >:(
the vote is the vote
the facebook page has had 90 replies of which 75 said they use both. if they cast a vote on here and the vote goes in favour to keep then it stays
is that not the fairest way? i use both but want to try and safeguard the future of this site and not a satellite group tbh and thats why I voted to get rid
no point in speculating the outcome of the vote until all votes are cast?
well i for one dont think getting rid of of the fb page is a way of safeguarding the site, more like a way of speeding up its demise :(
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DX resto thread (or tell me where I can find one)
Here >> http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=123605
Here >>http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,176177.0.html
Paul (Monkian) did a good one aswell http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,131361.msg1264028.html#msg1264028
Try finding one of those on Facebook :D
Thanks Joffy
I've made both of those sticky, if I get a minute I'll try and merge them or something
As for finding them on FB - I think I might just post the link on there and see if it attracts any attention :teef:
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I've been a member for a about 5 years and have always had an SST because I sign up to be a member of an online community that has a shared interest in BMX similar to myself.
I reckon you should buy the SST because it's an online community you want to be part of and contribute to, facebook has it's place but a forum is a better platform for reference purposes, tech and restoration how to's, project threads that are updated as they progress etc etc.
Maybe the time has come to bite the bullet and have limited access to other parts of the site too, ie, you can look but not post or possibly no access at all to other sections for people who don't have the SST. I think using the For Sale section alone as a lever for people to have the SST is over given the multitude of other platforms that are available and used by nearly every member of this site, Facebook, Gumtree, Ebay to sell their stuff.
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DX resto thread (or tell me where I can find one)
Here >> http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=123605
Here >>http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,176177.0.html
Paul (Monkian) did a good one aswell http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,131361.msg1264028.html#msg1264028
Try finding one of those on Facebook :D
Thanks Joffy
I've made both of those sticky, if I get a minute I'll try and merge them or something
As for finding them on FB - I think I might just post the link on there and see if it attracts any attention :teef:
:D :daumenhoch:
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the big percentage of us started on :radbmxsmilie: long before facebook had "popular" bmx pages. this is were we met so to speek. as so many have said :radbmxsmilie: is a great place to find resto and references to builds / parts. its because of :radbmxsmilie: we all enjoy M.K. and we have all look in RADS museum for reference and drooled over the builds of RADSTERS. just ask your self the question ... how many mates have you made because of :radbmxsmilie: ? how many rides have you been on because of :radbmxsmilie:. ?
Dont get me wrong , facebook does have a place . It does "suit" a lot of peoples lifes simply because you may have many "interests" and on facebook you can access them all at the same time. BUT it does not offer as much as RADBMX does , and it should'nt be a replacement ...
ive no doubt this discussion will raise its head time after time. but if :radbmxsmilie: was no longer what then ? most of us at some point have a bit of a lull , and dont log in for a short period of time . BUT we all come back . WHY? coz its the best place to be :daumenhoch:
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I think Radbmx is a strong Forum, the questions I am asking myself are:-
1. Does it need FB ... No
2. Would it suffer without FB... No
3. Does it compete with FB for members... No
4. Do I feel my SST is worth it .... Absolutely Yes
5. If FB shut down would it bother me... No..
Do I feel enough emphasis is directed at the right kind of posts on here... No I don't but that's my thoughts.
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"cutting your nose off to spite your face" comes to mind ::)
As said already, if you shut it down people will trade on other groups and still not come on here. New Rad FB members need to be directed to the main site.
I like the idea of limited access to the forum for non-SST's. But by that i mean.... they should be able to view everything (so they can see what they're missing) but not be able to comment/reply on anything or most importantly they can't PM members (so they can't buy direct or get mates to do it for them). I also think SST's should be reduced for international members as they are not likely to benefit as much as the natives (i.e. Not likely to attend MK, may not buy as much due to shipping costs). This may also help the number of 'over night' guests to become members as i'm guessing 95% of these people are overseas viewers, hence the time :-\
I very much agree with the importance of the 'time line / reference' enteries being made more informative. And with the rise and rise of the snide/repop shite, there needs to be a 'spot the difference' on that to safe guard everyone (myself included)
I've been a member on here for several years as most will know and this place will always be my home. But for me Faceache has opened my little niche to a new level which Rad couldn't do. I did try and start a VDC register on here and had to beg people to add pic's of their rides "nono"
When i've gathered enough info, i'll reboot the thread and hopefully bring all my FB group members with me :daumenhoch:
I think Rad is entering a new stage, a lot of knowledge of the past 'Masters of Rad' has slipped for whatever reason so info is easier/quicker found on FB for now until people find their feet.
Put RetroDan back in charge on the "babe of the day" thead and stop him starting stupid question threads in the lounge :knuppel2:
Keep it :radbmxsmilie:
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I think most forums are suffering because of face book. A car site I use where you pay to sell like on here is dead now since they started a fb group where you can do it all for free.
Not been on here for a little while as wasn't doing any builds but it does seems a bit quieter than it was. Was a member before the crash and lost my account so had to sign up again last year.
But hey paid up again and hopefully will find the parts I need to finish the build. :radbmxsmilie:
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Put RetroDan back in charge on the "babe of the day" thead and stop him starting stupid question threads in the lounge :knuppel2:
It's easy to be a critic Steve, but the 'stupid question threads' as you call them are my way of trying to add a bit of flavour to the forum, and keep momentum and activity going, and I was doing this way before being a Mod.
Sadly, whether it due to whatever reason, builds and resto threads aren't getting posted up 365 days of the year, so I feel it's important to have daft/normal/real/non BMX stuff to bind all the BMX stuff when it does appear.
But, by all means, you can add to your 39 other threads you've started off you like? :daumenhoch:
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Put RetroDan back in charge on the "babe of the day" thead and stop him starting stupid question threads in the lounge :knuppel2:
It's easy to be a critic Steve, but the 'stupid question threads' as you call them are my way of trying to add a bit of flavour to the forum, and keep momentum and activity going, and I was doing this way before being a Mod.
Sadly, whether it due to whatever reason, builds and resto threads aren't getting posted up 365 days of the year, so I feel it's important to have daft/normal/real/non BMX stuff to bind all the BMX stuff when it does appear.
But, by all means, you can add to your 39 other threads you've started off you like? :daumenhoch:
You a bit touchy this morning Dan :LolLolLolLol:
You might get a good nights sleep in a years time (congratulations by the way 👍)
It was just a light hearted note to end on, not a criticism.
That's an interesting number of thread starters from myself, is that on this version of Rad or in the 7 years I've been a member ?
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I've seen several times that RAD is a 'great reference site' ...
We could stop any access unless you register ... and then ( as Mr rodriguez said ) limit access to other areas of the site as well as sales until you buy an SST.
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If we ban Spacebook PKRipster will be back ... :-X
;D
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we need to shut ebay down too
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Sadly, whether it due to whatever reason, builds and resto threads aren't getting posted up 365 days of the year, so I feel it's important to have daft/normal/real/non BMX stuff to bind all the BMX stuff when it does appear.
If there aren't as many builds and resto threads... what about more focus on everything else to do with BMX - guys from BitD still riding, interviews, magazine scans, the characters, the lifestyle, meet-ups, riding, skills etc etc. There's a lot of us not into the polishing/ebay-wars/money making side of it that actively participate in the living, breathing, evolving sport.
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Sadly, whether it due to whatever reason, builds and resto threads aren't getting posted up 365 days of the year, so I feel it's important to have daft/normal/real/non BMX stuff to bind all the BMX stuff when it does appear.
If there aren't as many builds and resto threads... what about more focus on everything else to do with BMX - guys from BitD still riding, interviews, magazine scans, the characters, the lifestyle, meet-ups, riding, skills etc etc. There's a lot of us not into the polishing/ebay-wars/money making side of it that actively participate in the living, breathing, evolving sport.
Yep, good call Jon, anything to keep people interested and generate forum activity is good IMO.
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Noticed recently that non SST members can post in the wanted section. If they can't buy in the for sale section how come they can post in the wanted section. ???
A lot of folk here have built up an extensive catalogue of technical and reference information over the years so perhaps limiting access is the way forward.
Its like giving the company secrets away... we may be setting ourselves up for an hostile takeover by the radburnerbmxsaleschatmuseumsocietythistimenextyeari'llbeamillionaire facebook group. :D :LolLolLolLol:
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:LolLolLolLol: no he's banned ;D
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This all reminds me of that King Canute fella ... he had about as much luck.
I don't see any problem at all with the forum 'being quiet' ... I don't think it is even ... but it is what it is! ... I certainly would not want to encourage some of the twats I see on facebook over here.
We just need to keep on doing what we are already doing and linking things in to RAD and let things happen if they want to. Stopping sales on the RAD facebook page just gives SkywaySteff more ammo to have a pop with ... personally I'm about on both sites and don't really see that there's any problem. Old Steff said he was gonna blow us out the water with his forum which went down in flames before it even started ... we are still here doing what we do ... nothing is going to stop that :laugh:
Let just let it all be what it wants to be ... everything irie.
:daumenhoch:
:LolLolLolLol: and you know this would've been screen dumped into his photobucket of awesoneness ;D
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I like this place as most people are about the same age & have similar interests, & like a bit of nostalgia.
Dont do Facebook but most other forums I'm on (mainly footy & cars) have a real broad spread of ages, & I reckon this place is friendlier for everybody being about 40, theres not many teenage nobheads.
Ive got loads of BMXs & like the bike chat, but prefer the zombie/pet/beer/fanny/music banter if I'm honest.
I like to hear other peoples views on zombies, pets, beer, fanny & music. :daumenhoch: :-*
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I've protested against the FB page for ages now, and been ignored.
There's absolutely no need for it whatsoever NOW.
Close it and drive the serious BMX collectors/enthusiasts/riders back here.
It's THAT simple.
:radbmxsmilie:
whos the man with the delete button Dan ???
i think he needs a wee nudge :-X
Griff and Ed control it mate.
too right Dan,RAD is a graveyard these days and im not on facebook,get RAD back to RAD :daumenhoch:
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I've protested against the FB page for ages now, and been ignored.
There's absolutely no need for it whatsoever NOW.
Close it and drive the serious BMX collectors/enthusiasts/riders back here.
It's THAT simple.
:radbmxsmilie:
whos the man with the delete button Dan ???
i think he needs a wee nudge :-X
Griff and Ed control it mate.
too right Dan,RAD is a graveyard these days and im not on facebook,get RAD back to RAD :daumenhoch:
Soz Marky mate, it's with us now, and out of my hands.
I'm just accepting it now, and trying to contribute, it feels like I'm cheating on the Mrs though, a bit naughty like. :whistle:
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So guys,
5 pages in now, lots of valid points raised, the pole looks pretty comprehensive
Conclusion time.... :police: what you doing, it's now or never in my book lads.
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Noticed recently that non SST members can post in the wanted section. If they can't buy in the for sale section how come they can post in the wanted section. ???
A lot of folk here have built up an extensive catalogue of technical and reference information over the years so perhaps limiting access is the way forward.
Its like giving the company secrets away... we may be setting ourselves up for an hostile takeover by the radburnerbmxsaleschatmuseumsocietythistimenextyeari'llbeamillionaire facebook group. :D :LolLolLolLol:
Agree here. If they want to post a wanted ad then they should be SST.
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I use both. If the Facebook site disappeared I wouldn't loose any sleep loose any sleep over it
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So guys,
5 pages in now, lots of valid points raised, the pole looks pretty comprehensive
Conclusion time.... :police: what you doing, it's now or never in my book lads.
Spot on. Can't have a general election without electing....
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I've not posted my thoughts about the FB group before because I don't understand the hatred for it.
I joined RAD before FB group was started. I like the page because I'm a FB user, I can get a quick fix as and when, but if I want to buy I go on the forum, if I'm stuck with anything I go on the forum, if I want some banter I go on the forum, if I want ideas I go on the forum, I don't really sell (it upsets me after) if I have a question about something non bmx I go on the forum!
I use it a lot, I love it.
It upsets me when I read "RAD is just a pay to sell site" shut up! it's a wonderful forum (the best) with everything you need to know (and more) in one place!
FB is just a quick fix...!!!
I do not understand the argument in fact.... don't think there is one!
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Since the poll was allegedly started 'for fun' and doesn't end until the 27th I think you're being a bit premature expecting any kind of result tbh
I would quite happily support a move to ban sales on the group page unless people have a link to the sale section here, it was like that before and would take no more effort than it does to constantly tell people to put prices up etc
I imagine that people currently selling on there will give out a bit of flak for that (as before) but to be fair to SST holders there is a logic to that. Don't expect that these sale posts will magically appear here though as a result.
I absolutely don't believe that shutting the group page down will somehow 'drive people back here'. It really isn't that simple and if you think that the 2,700-odd people that are in the group won't simply switch to the countless other FB BMX groups instead then you're kidding yourself. Times change and whether FB goes the way of Myspace and is replaced by Ello or something people will use whatever suits them. FB is very handy for organising events - it helped us get a load of people out in London at short notice and gained us a few new members & already has helped get the Summer ride organised with people potentially coming from other countries.
What keeps this place going is the brilliant community of people, if you want it to be more lively then contribute something instead of moaning, maybe go and welcome a new member - if you use the FB group then point people here but simply deleting a group isn't going to solve anything. The amount of energy expended on this thread alone shows that there are plenty of people in here with something to say (unlike many other traditional forums that have sadly turned to dust). I'm still seeing lots of new people join and as far as I'm aware there's no immediate danger of the Rad pot being decimated and putting MK in jeopardy.
I'm off to bed now - night night all :)
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......um, I didn't set it up
Thanks
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It is was it is............leave it be
It's great for people who want to sell their shyte without the need to pay £10 for the privilege (that's probably how they see it) it also hits a huge amount of people right away so sell stuff quicker (unless you've added too many 00 on the end) ;D or for banging up a POS for raffle so you can get twice what anyone would pay for it :daumenhoch:
From what i remember Stodgy saying last year, i don't think you can actually delete a group once there's a certain amount of members?? ???
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Hanging a hat on Facebook as the reason this place is quiet is great and if something makes you feel better, I've always said go for it but......is it really the reason it's quiet on here?
I've seen numerous 1st or second posts , where someone asks what something is worth, which let's face it, goes against our etiquette but do new members know that? Invariably, these posts are met with " interesting 1st post GET A SITE SUPPORTERS TAG " and usually followed with several more frosty replies along the same lines, hardly welcoming is it.
This thread is a good example of many threads where there is lots and lots of moaning, there's other threads that end up with people falling out. These threads are regular and across the boards of the forum.
Maybe a quick poll of former members who didn't come back after the crash and the ones who did that don't come on very much would give more answers.
The thing is though, there is a warning that comes with seeking the truth, you might not like what you hear.
I don't use Facebook and rejoice in that fact regularly but lots and lots of people do and they seem to (http://chrisblattman.com/files/2011/07/facebook_like_button_big1-300x133.jpg) it :)
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Interesting 12212th post!
:LolLolLolLol:
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(http://chrisblattman.com/files/2011/07/facebook_like_button_big1-300x133.jpg)
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From what i remember Stodgy saying last year, i don't think you can actually delete a group once there's a certain amount of members?? ???
you can't change the name that's all
Hanging a hat on Facebook as the reason this place is quiet is great and if something makes you feel better, I've always said go for it but......is it really the reason it's quiet on here?
I've seen numerous 1st or second posts , where someone asks what something is worth, which let's face it, goes against our etiquette but do new members know that? Invariably, these posts are met with " interesting 1st post GET A SITE SUPPORTERS TAG " and usually followed with several more frosty replies along the same lines, hardly welcoming is it.
This thread is a good example of many threads where there is lots and lots of moaning, there's other threads that end up with people falling out. These threads are regular and across the boards of the forum.
Maybe a quick poll of former members who didn't come back after the crash and the ones who did that don't come on very much would give more answers.
The thing is though, there is a warning that comes with seeking the truth, you might not like what you hear.
I don't use Facebook and rejoice in that fact regularly but lots and lots of people do and they seem to (http://chrisblattman.com/files/2011/07/facebook_like_button_big1-300x133.jpg) it :)
blimey Si - next thing you'll be sticking up for 24" Tuffs
but I agree with what you're saying, old members aren't going to necessarily hang around forever and newbies to the forum need to feel welcomed. We generally do a pretty good job of this esp. on the rideouts but there's always room to improve
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2000 plus members 88 votes are we still giving this thread time of day 6 pages and 95% of rad members obviously don't give a shit either way as haven't commented or voted
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Putting my personal views aside , it's plain to see the majority of RADsters want to bin the facebook page . In my opinion that vote should be acted upon otherwise it just makes a mockery of any other votes that may be held in the future regarding the site etc .
I understand the reasons for and against but at the end of the day the members who have voted have gone with binning the FB page and personally i feel that's what a decision should be based on .
2000 plus members 88 votes are we still giving this thread time of day 6 pages and 95% of rad members obviously don't give a shit either way as haven't commented or voted
Exactly Jono .......... the same 95% of members who can't be arsed to vote in BOTM , comment on peoples builds or contribute on a regular basis to the site . The members who have voted are probably the ones who do contribute to the site and who do give a shit . There the one's we should listen to imo .
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my first thoughts were keep bothm, then actually this website is quite special so, kill FB i say
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Forums are dead, Facebook is the future....Gotta roll with the times people. :bondage:
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Putting my personal views aside , it's plain to see the majority of RADsters want to bin the facebook page . In my opinion that vote should be acted upon otherwise it just makes a mockery of any other votes that may be held in the future regarding the site etc .
I understand the reasons for and against but at the end of the day the members who have voted have gone with binning the FB page and personally i feel that's what a decision should be based on .
2000 plus members 88 votes are we still giving this thread time of day 6 pages and 95% of rad members obviously don't give a shit either way as haven't commented or voted
Exactly Jono .......... the same 95% of members who can't be arsed to vote in BOTM , comment on peoples builds or contribute on a regular basis to the site . The members who have voted are probably the ones who do contribute to the site and who do give a shit . There the one's we should listen to imo .
Where did you put your personal views aside Joff? :teef:
Just to recap some of the facts..
This was never any kind of 'official' poll started by the site owner with a promise to act on the results. Anyone can start a poll about anything any time they start a thread - it doesn't mean anything is going to happen because of it but it's useful to get people's constructive feedback.
If you want to be nit picky more people (93 to be exact) have voted on the FB group already that they use both sites and the 'majority' on here that people keep quoting is currently 50/2510 members or 2%.
I'd like to think that Rad was inclusive enough to take on the opinions of a reasonably-sized minority. Understand that not everyone wants to use FB but a lot of people do (and they won't stop just because one group gets pulled).
getting bored of this thread now tbh
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getting bored of this thread now tbh
I'm not surprised John considering you've probably had to read every post on here, and on the FB thread, I'd be bored by now too.
Maybe stop responding to other peoples opinions may give you a break from it.
Just a suggestion.
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or just deleting the thread!
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or just deleting the thread!
Even better, and the FB one of course, let's be fair.
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Forums are dead, Facebook is the future....Gotta roll with the times people. :bondage:
Then delete your rad account then. :daumenhoch:
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getting bored of this thread now tbh
I'm not surprised John considering you've probably had to read every post on here, and on the FB thread, I'd be bored by now too.
Maybe stop responding to other peoples opinions may give you a break from it.
Just a suggestion.
Can't help it Dan
It's in my nature to read and respond to other people's opinions
or just deleting the thread!
Even better, and the FB one of course, let's be fair.
that can easily be done, but imagine the outcry
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Forums are dead, Facebook is the future....Gotta roll with the times people. :bondage:
I'm no Luddite but I hate FB and its lazy arsed approach to everything..
FB the future? It's already gone mate!!
No self respecting teen would be seen dead with a FB account these days!
Rad needs to act and the majority has spoken ... !!!!!
Viva la revolution !!!
It's the people who care who posted replies and voted on this thread!!
Let's do something or any future votes are pointless .... ::)
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Rad needs to act and the 2% has spoken ... !!!!!
fixed
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I like Faceache purely so I can see on my friends list who likes 'Britain First' and the 'BNP'...and then delete the fookers.
Although that's not really adding to the debate.
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If people aren't officially on here then obviously they shouldn't have a vote?
(SST)
In any election it's not about who didn't bother to vote but those who did or do!
I know this is an unofficial vote so why not have a proper Rad referendum with only SSTs allowed to vote then we'd get a more equal and fair
response on the subject ?
Just an idea ?
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Forums are dead, Facebook is the future....Gotta roll with the times people. :bondage:
Then delete your rad account then. :daumenhoch:
Why should I? I'll choose to do wtf I like. :daumenhoch:
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And I'll choose to say wtf I like. :daumenhoch:
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Fook all to do with me what you choose to say, same as my accounts are fook all to do with you. :-*
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Settle down chaps, no handbags required.
Save that kind of stuff for the FB group. :LolLolLolLol:
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Yep true.......anyway I need to go now and log into my super duper state of the art Facebook account so I can see how many invites I have to candy crush.
Oh and it's only a tenner for an SST tag. Well worth it in my opinion.
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If you click on the FB poll you can see the people who voted that they use both
Matching up those people to the forum nearly all of them are long-standing members with SSTs
How about we have a referendum after the last live event in the group calendar has taken place, which at the moment is set for June 2015?
Or just crack on and make the most of what can actually be a very useful tool for bringing new members into the forum?
I think a vote on selling on there is a good idea though, not because SST sales are suffering (they're not) but just because constant sale posts don't add much to the 'community', tend to clog up the page and get in the way of other stuff. Personally I would bin those that don't have a link to the forum, but I anticipate a backlash from those people who don't want it changed. I also don't think that people would suddenly start selling on here if they don't already, given the amount of other selling groups available.
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and if you need any reasons why this place is the nuts! just check this fooker out!!! :4_17_5: :smitten:
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,178074.msg1787809.html#new
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Save that kind of stuff for the FB group. :LolLolLolLol:
Please don't :daumenhoch:
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Save that kind of stuff for the FB group. :LolLolLolLol:
Please don't :daumenhoch:
No, save it for Steph's facebook group :LolLolLolLol:
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Some easy groups for trolling on there. Wardy gets chucked from about 10 a day. :nuts:
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There's going to be no easy solution here guys. I use both, primarily to see what I am missing to buy and to sell something quickly, if needs be. A little while back, it was so quiet on here, you couldn't move anything unless it was a major bargain that needed snapping up, so I held off advertising on here. I tried unsuccessfully to sell a frame set on FB but no takers so I put it on here and sold it within an hour.
I think with the colder weather coming this place will get busier, hopefully. I mean, let's face it, it's been the best summer we have had in years and who wouldn't rather be out in that on their BMX than on here :daumenhoch:
I say keep both but stop sales on there unless it's advertised on here first. Also, block more access unless you have a SST. Maybe make RAD a little more user friendly too? ::)
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There's going to be no easy solution here guys. I use both, primarily to see what I am missing to buy and to sell something quickly, if needs be. A little while back, it was so quiet on here, you couldn't move anything unless it was a major bargain that needed snapping up, so I held off advertising on here. I tried unsuccessfully to sell a frame set on FB but no takers so I put it on here and sold it within an hour.
I think with the colder weather coming this place will get busier, hopefully. I mean, let's face it, it's been the best summer we have had in years and who wouldn't rather be out in that on their BMX than on here :daumenhoch:
I say keep both but stop sales on there unless it's advertised on here first. Also, block more access unless you have a SST. Maybe make RAD a little more user friendly too? ::)
Very good feedback Tel, something's to take on board. :daumenhoch:
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how could it be anymore user friendly?
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how could it be anymore user friendly?
just friendly then :teef:
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how could it be anymore user friendly?
Maybe remove the black background, or at least have an option to change. I will take a look later and come to you with suggestions.
Listen to the new guys and some of the FB users who admit they dont come here because they find it 'difficult' to navigate the pages. We are avid users Rob so know our way around already. When I first joined, I got bored quickly trying to navigate and initially went and came back a few weeks later.
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how could it be anymore user friendly?
Maybe remove the black background, or at least have an option to change. I will take a look later and come to you with suggestions.
Listen to the new guys and some of the FB users who admit they dont come here because they find it 'difficult' to navigate the pages. We are avid users Rob so know our way around already. When I first joined, I got bored quickly trying to navigate and initially went and came back a few weeks later.
For the newbies:
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,173710.0.html
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There are some subtle layout changes coming through soon which might go some way to helping navigation Terry
The best discovery I made early on was the button that lets you see any unread posts though as it's a simple way to see what everyone has recently posted
Not sure if there's any option to change the colour but someone will no doubt confirm, I like the black layout myself as it means I can go on here late at night while mrs griff is asleep and I'm less likely to wake her up with a glowing white ipad screen :teef:
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Whats with everyone insisting that everyone has to own a Robbo to be on here??? I've got an Amtrac so have absolutely no need for an SST. :crazy2:
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There is an option to change the theme/background, by clicking on portal, and going to the bottom right of the screen.
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Whats with everyone insisting that everyone has to own a Robbo to be on here??? I've got an Amtrac so have absolutely no need for an SST. :crazy2:
BOOM BOOM
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VHa3ldik4WM/hqdefault.jpg)
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RADBMX is definitely quieter than it was 4-5 years ago before the onslaught of social media and the crash didn't help but IMO it has recovered well in comparison to other forums that didn't suffer a crash but have still floundered nonetheless.
I reckon there's a core of about 100-150 active users on here and IMO that's pretty good for a forum competing against social media. Taken in context of active users the amount of members who vote isn't that bad and seems to be similar to previous years. Forget the registered members figure it's a red herring, active users are registered members who actually contribute to site in some form.
It's not the RADBMX facebook page that's strangling the site, it's facebook and social media en bloc. Closing down the RADBMX facebook page will NOT have a positive effect on the RADBMX forum, if anything at all it will have a negative effect, it would be going in the opposite direction to every other forum, business, organisation on the internet.
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RADBMX is definitely quieter than it was 4-5 years ago before the onslaught of social media and the crash didn't help but IMO it has recovered well in comparison to other forums that didn't suffer a crash but have still floundered nonetheless.
I reckon there's a core of about 100-150 active users on here and IMO that's pretty good for a forum competing against social media. Taken in context of active users the amount of members who vote isn't that bad and seems to be similar to previous years. Forget the registered members figure it's a red herring, active users are registered members who actually contribute to site in some form.
It's not the RADBMX facebook page that's strangling the site, it's facebook and social media en bloc. Closing down the RADBMX facebook page will NOT have a positive effect on the RADBMX forum, if anything at all it will have a negative effect, it would be going in the opposite direction to every other forum, business, organisation on the internet.
^^^^^ what he said
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113 Users ... and 110 guests!
that says that people get what they want without needing to register.
I say limit more of the site to encourage people to register :daumenhoch: any thoughts on that?
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113 Users ... and 110 guests!
that says that people get what they want without needing to register.
I say limit more of the site to encourage people to register :daumenhoch: any thoughts on that?
Agreed.
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113 Users ... and 110 guests!
that says that people get what they want without needing to register.
I say limit more of the site to encourage people to register :daumenhoch: any thoughts on that?
I think that's a splendid idea
Leave some bits open so people have an incentive to see more
Which bits though? :D
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113 Users ... and 110 guests!
that says that people get what they want without needing to register.
I say limit more of the site to encourage people to register :daumenhoch: any thoughts on that?
Agreed.
combined with making registration easier :daumenhoch:
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113 Users ... and 110 guests!
that says that people get what they want without needing to register.
I say limit more of the site to encourage people to register :daumenhoch: any thoughts on that?
Good idea :)
I would say close it all off. Nothing like getting people interested in something and making them want to join to see whats inside >:D
Is this facebook craze not just that, a craze :-\
People will always come back to the Forum Format i feel but maybe its time to come up with some new ideas to get them back on the Forum site.
Difficult one this but it think there has to be something in 50% of people wanting the Facebook Page shut down.
You would be a fool to ignor your members and what they are saying.
;)
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There is an option to change the theme/background, by clicking on portal, and going to the bottom right of the screen.
Sweet! Impulse 2 is easier on the eye for me :daumenhoch:
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very flowery ;D
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most forum`s today are struggling against facebook and it`s the way things are changing , it`s easier to just click a app on your phone and bang your on radbmx on facebook where as for me to get here is more work and i need to open a browser to get here .
forum`s will always have a place but the world is changing as more and more of us have less time
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Perhaps a Rad app might make it more user friendly. :daumenhoch:
If it's possible. ???
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Second that!
I'm on iPhone all day and tapatalks ok for navigation but tetchy and crashes frequently.
I'm fighting urge to FB due to lack of time to even bother.
I think cut the sales on FB and limit to the Rad site only. Pics n chat on both with status updates on favourites or buddy's fed from FB a lot like Twitter?
Where's this RADBmx Twitter feed again? I got the shop one.
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Good idea. Close the Rad facebook page. I REALLY look forward to the new Rad BMX group thats actually nothing to do with Rad BMX, much like the Museum page. Frame pad friday anyone? :daumenhoch:
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If only folk would invest as much energy into BMX as they do whinging - this site would rock!
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Second that!
I'm on iPhone all day and tapatalks ok for navigation but tetchy and crashes frequently.
I'm fighting urge to FB due to lack of time to even bother.
I think cut the sales on FB and limit to the Rad site only. Pics n chat on both with status updates on favourites or buddy's fed from FB a lot like Twitter?
Where's this RADBmx Twitter feed again? I got the shop one.
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I'm on using iPhone without tappytalk right now while having my morning dump & it's working fine
Tried it very briefly but found it annoying & I couldn't access smilies
I made up the thing about Twitter btw
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If you update to iOS 8.1 I found the touchpad has smilies bottom left by default now.
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Second that!
I'm on iPhone all day and tapatalks ok for navigation but tetchy and crashes frequently.
I'm fighting urge to FB due to lack of time to even bother.
I think cut the sales on FB and limit to the Rad site only. Pics n chat on both with status updates on favourites or buddy's fed from FB a lot like Twitter?
Where's this RADBmx Twitter feed again? I got the shop one.
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I'm on using iPhone without tappytalk right now while having my morning dump & it's working fine
Tried it very briefly but found it annoying & I couldn't access smilies
I made up the thing about Twitter btw
twatter!
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I think it can be dangerous to limit too much from the public ....( you've got to get bums on seats?) Other sites do/did this and put me of pursuing to find out what there were about or joining them.
It's a fine line I guess?
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Tapatalks best feature is you can organise your favourite threads in a lovely list.
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tapatalk is faff!
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tapatalk is faff!
I agree... great for an instant pic but no good for navigating the site.
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Oh? I prefer it to webs one. Always swimming against the tide me!! Haha.
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If you update to iOS 8.1 I found the touchpad has smilies bottom left by default now.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/24/1b7b76bceae8438c4aee0aae281762b3.jpg)
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my OS is up to date, but not on about iphone smilies that don't show up on a pc screen - I'm on about proper :radbmxsmilie: smilies from this forum :daumenhoch: :slayer:
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tapatalk is faff!
AGREED
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True that one mans steak n chips is another mans scotch bonnet chillies rubbed roughly on his helmet.
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tapatalk is faff!
I agree... great for an instant pic but no good for navigating the site.
It was good before, but the updated version is a big bag of horse w4nk. "nono"
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undecided on the fb thing - tend to think about it like Bob 'tis just a thingy', and like Dan about the 'keep selling on Rad' --but wouldn't know how to enforce such a rule effectively.
One thing i'm sure about though is that it is NOT good to limit access to Tech/resto, and the bikes sections only to members who even need to be logged in. I know there might be Guests > Members problem, but we have to think about attracting potential new members, too. Those who register because they like what they've seen. ;)
I would'nt even know how to facebook :-[
edit: ....maybe limit Chat & Tech Resto Stickies to registered (,,,/SST's?). -- and let the non registered see that there are some sections they can't access --- like have those sections appear shaded in the Index
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Wow when I started the thread I didn't think it would start this much discussion,a lot of people clearly have been having the same thoughts as me ,though I can see the argument from both sides.
Also I stuck the poll in the thread just to gauge what everyone did think really.
I never intended it to be seen as an official vote and anyway I am not a moderator so it wouldn't be my place to.
Some good points being raised though and if anything it's got extra traffic to the site and maybe got a few on the FB group having a look in here.
Mods feel free to lock the topic when the 7 day poll is finished :daumenhoch:
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now read the previous pages 2-8 (seems you all aggree with me ;D) ............lots of reasonable stuff, so wow indeed to this discussion, just shows again what makes Rad rad :2gunsfiring_v1: ...apart from the bmx part of course...erm ...lol :D
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I've posted pics of my Motorbikes on here and had good chat about them, I posted an amazing BSA on the FB page and a few bell ends said " what does this have to do with BMX ?"...pricks don't have a clue what RAD is all about.
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I've posted pics of my Motorbikes on here and had good chat about them, I posted an amazing BSA on the FB page and a few bell ends said " what does this have to do with BMX ?"...pricks don't have a clue what RAD is all about.
maybe thats the difference,this is a BMX forum but we can chat about other interests/happy nonsense,were as maybe the facebook page is strictly Bee Em Ex
im not on it so i probably aint in a position to comment
but i am
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I've posted pics of my Motorbikes on here and had good chat about them, I posted an amazing BSA on the FB page and a few bell ends said " what does this have to do with BMX ?"...pricks don't have a clue what RAD is all about.
Exactly Ash, if it is Rad it is Rad, whether that is a BMX, MTB, Motorbike, Car or bloody tractor.
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Damn right
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It is a positive blokes emporium of filth and forks.
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Ahahhhhhh. Dual post tractor. Must be on tapatalk?
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Ahahhhhhh. Dual post tractor. Must be on tapatalk?
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It was till i deleted the other. :daumenhoch:
tapatalk is faff!
I agree... great for an instant pic but no good for navigating the site.
I take back what i said earlier... it's shite. :LolLolLolLol:
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I get errors allover place but ignore them, well that's wot we do in I.T so it sure works mostly here? 😄😄😄😄
I used to believe it saying it didn't post then resubmit. Donna do dat now. Just clack back, refresh....lo n behold it's there.
Anyone tried FORUM READER app?
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I think the main reason that the site is slow these days to a lot of us is years ago it was either rad ' the burner forum or the museum.
That was it for most of us for our bmx fix.
These days you've got so many more things to look at bmx wise which has gotta slow all these forums up a bit.
Tbh I don't think shutting down the Facebook page will make one bit of difference to here.
Stopping sales on the rad page will do nothing as there's plenty more you can use instead so can't see what good that will do.
Think it's just the way thing and not a lot is gonna make a penth of difference.
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I think the main reason that the site is slow these days to a lot of us is years ago it was either rad ' the burner forum or the museum.
That was it for most of us for our bmx fix.
These days you've got so many more things to look at bmx wise which has gotta slow all these forums up a bit.
Tbh I don't think shutting down the Facebook page will make one bit of difference to here.
Stopping sales on the rad page will do nothing as there's plenty more you can use instead so can't see what good that will do.
Think it's just the way thing and not a lot is gonna make a penth of difference.
I have to agree. With almost everyone owning a smart type phone nowadays, accessing apps/websites like facebook is just so easy. I find myself scrolling through it at work when I'm on my break. It becomes a habit/routine and doesn't require any zooming in on the page or any effort. It's easy and instant. Rad and other forum based sites just cannot compete in the same way, however forums are a fantastic resource if you want more that a 'what's this worth/for sale ad'. I do look on the facebook page, and have bought some great items through it, so it certainly has it's benefits. I've had a bit of a whinge before about people putting items up for sale on facebook, but not on the main site. Ok, so facebook is easier, and I know many of us have busy lives, but taking a few minutes to post things up on the main site doesn't take that much time, and once it's there, be it a for sale thread/question/build thread etc. it can be viewed days, months or even years later. How many of us owe a great deal of thanks to the person who may have posted a 'how to' thread years ago. Dyeing grips, seats, Z Rims, spoke length calculators etc. I voted to keep the facebook page, as I think it does have it's uses and anything that attracts new people to the hobby should be welcomed and embraced. I don't think that deleting the facebook page will help the main forum - many people will stick with the easy/quick route and post their items for sale/threads on other facebook pages. I think that people should just take a second to think about the bigger picture before taking the 'easier' option and only posting on facebook
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just a small note to add on this point.... if u do shut down the facebook page there is every chance u will strengthen the spin off pages.... the debate has certainly made me come back to have another look at what goes on here.... just keep banging on about about rad being the true home of uk bmx... u'll never beat the quick fix of facebook but u this isnt about a quick fix.... keep doing what u do best as u guys are the driving force behind the uk scene.
top work ... keep it up
PK flipper
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just a small note to add on this point.... if u do shut down the facebook page there is every chance u will strengthen the spin off pages.... the debate has certainly made me come back to have another look at what goes on here.... just keep banging on about about rad being the true home of uk bmx... u'll never beat the quick fix of facebook but u this isnt about a quick fix.... keep doing what u do best as u guys are the driving force behind the uk scene.
top work ... keep it up
PK flipper
Great feedback for the forum mate, cheers. :angel:
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I have said before that FB is not a problem for me, it is another avenue to rad and other groups of interest.
To be honest Rad is not in competition with these other groups as they do not have the history, information or resources we do. It is really easy to open a FB group and then to populate it with loads of members to look successful. However it is difficult to also run a very successful forum alongside.
I remember having a discussion with a banned member about FB groups and he was banging on about his group is more successful than this site as he has 2.5k members and rad only has 2k members. Thing is every rad FB member has asked to be a member, whereas he just randomly adds people to his whether they want to be a member or not. Hell the idiot even added me and most of the rad admin team.... what a fooking twonk.
I do however want to limit sales to the forum only, I know there are other places for selling goods on FB and that is the point, mostly every sale on rads FB group are on every other selling place too, it makes no difference if we limit sales to this site or not. However, if a person only wants be part of our FB group to sell there crap then I don't really want them as a member. Plus if part of the SST we all pay yearly is to be able to sell on rad, then why should somebody who doesn't pay towards the site upkeep etc benefit as much as our SST's?
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I have said before that FB is not a problem for me, it is another avenue to rad and other groups of interest.
To be honest Rad is not in competition with these other groups as they do not have the history, information or resources we do. It is really easy to open a FB group and then to populate it with loads of members to look successful. However it is difficult to also run a very successful forum alongside.
I remember having a discussion with a banned member about FB groups and he was banging on about his group is more successful than this site as he has 2.5k members and rad only has 2k members. Thing is every rad FB member has asked to be a member, whereas he just randomly adds people to his whether they want to be a member or not. Hell the idiot even added me and most of the rad admin team.... what a fooking twonk.
I do however want to limit sales to the forum only, I know there are other places for selling goods on FB and that is the point, mostly every sale on rads FB group are on every other selling place too, it makes no difference if we limit sales to this site or not. However, if a person only wants be part of our FB group to sell there crap then I don't really want them as a member. Plus if part of the SST we all pay yearly is to be able to sell on rad, then why should somebody who doesn't pay towards the site upkeep etc benefit as much as our SST's?
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It's true, we have seen other groups 'harvesting' members by actively going round the members of rad one & others, simply press-ganging people in. I'm not talking about those set up by good mates btw, I don't mind being added to those but I've no interest in joining sales groups simply set up to try and put the forum out of business or feed someone's ego. Rather than indulge in some kind of willy waving exercise about how many members we have, we just let people sign up because they want to. What makes me laugh is when you then see the owners or admins of the groups trying to offload their tat on the rad one - talk about fishing from the same pond!
Agree that taking sales off would probably be a good idea, only thing I would add is that to be fair to sst holders who want to be able to use FB too is that they should be allowed to continue to sell on there if they have it up on here too (with a link to the sales post). Not going to chop & change every 5 minutes though as I'll no doubt get grief for it but if that seems to sit right with people it can easily be sorted and I don't mind policing it :teef: :police:
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Had a butchers at the fb page after reading this thread, there's some right shite for sale on there ;D
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SSt holders who want to be able to use FB too, should be allowed to continue to sell on there if they have it up on here (with a link to the sales post). If that seems to sit right with people, it can easily be sorted, and I don't mind policing it :teef: :police:
That's good for me John. There are plenty of other sites to sell on, although I only use Rad, The Museum and Lee's page for that purpose. There is always Ebay to sell on too, so plenty of choice :)
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Yeah put a block on things getting sold on the FB page.
If people wanna sell to rad members then at least they will need to pay/have a SST to do this, it can't make the forum sales page any slower can it ???
Then if people query why they can't sell on FB page then direct them to forum :)
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Yeah put a block on things getting sold on the FB page.
If people wanna sell to rad members then at least they will need to pay/have a SST to do this, it can't make the forum sales page any slower can it ???
Then if people query why they can't sell on FB page then direct them to forum :)
Exactly, any links from there to here can only increase traffic
Of course if the same items go on 10 other FB groups at the same time then it makes no difference, but if I have anything to sell I would always offer it up here first on principle (not that anyone wants my shite :teef:)
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Personally, I rarely buy off the FB groups, all my purchases are off here from valued and trusted members, and it's the trust aspect you get on the forum that needs to be underlined.
Let's face it, we don't really need a messers thread anymore, not for transactions on the forum anyway, we're all brothers on here, we don't Sh!t on our own.
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Yeah put a block on things getting sold on the FB page.
If people wanna sell to rad members then at least they will need to pay/have a SST to do this, it can't make the forum sales page any slower can it ???
Then if people query why they can't sell on FB page then direct them to forum :)
Exactly, any links from there to here can only increase traffic
Of course if the same items go on 10 other FB groups at the same time then it makes no difference, but if I have anything to sell I would always offer it up here first on principle (not that anyone wants my shite :teef:)
Get it put into action Griff, the sooner the better :daumenhoch:
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SSt holders who want to be able to use FB too, should be allowed to continue to sell on there if they have it up on here (with a link to the sales post). If that seems to sit right with people, it can easily be sorted, and I don't mind policing it :teef: :police:
That's good for me John. There are plenty of other sites to sell on, although I only use Rad, The Museum and Lee's page for that purpose. There is always Ebay to sell on too, so plenty of choice :)
I agree boys, I should have said then that selling on FB should be a privilege/benefit of forum members with a SST.
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I think it's going to be very hard to police if you only let people sell if they link to here.
FB is so instant you will need a few more mods to keep an eye on the posts 24/7.
But it's a great idea and hopefully will make our sales page a lot busier
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I think it's going to be very hard to police if you only let people sell if they link to here.
FB is so instant you will need a few more mods to keep an eye on the posts 24/7.
But it's a great idea and hopefully will make our sales page a lot busier
don't you worry about that ;)
will probably be easier than constantly moaning at people to add prices
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OK then peeps - the FB page is once again a SST only selling zone
If I'm honest I don't expect the page to be inundated with links to this place but at least we are being fairer to tag holders now
Of course that's not to say that people without tags won't buy stuff, but it's up to sellers who they want to sell to and hopefully community spirit will prevail
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Good work John. :4_17_5: :daumenhoch:
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Well done John,
FB page is there to just to peek in and off course bring in new friends to join the Big Forum.
Good decision for the SST Members and the Radbmx Forum .... :4_17_5:
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can I sell my Ugg boots and Raybans on there?
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can I sell my Ugg boots and Raybans on there?
:nickswan:
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......um, I didn't set it up
Thanks
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I agree with with making the FB page sales only for the SST holders. good work John.
Dont know if this has been said already but FB and pages alike are easy to use due to smart phone apps so is it possible to make a RAD app?
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Wow what a huge MASSDEBATE.......allover the face.......................book.
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I agree with with making the FB page sales only for the SST holders. good work John.
Dont know if this has been said already but FB and pages alike are easy to use due to smart phone apps so is it possible to make a RAD app?
It certainly has Craig
All app developers please form an orderly queue!
The successful applicant will however be expected to work long hours for fook all :teef:
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can I say, I have found this site very difficult to navigate in respect of :
1. After replying to posts, hard to find if your response successfully posted. You go back to "show unread posts since last visit" and the post you just posted in has gone !!!
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This exactly another reason I put up with tapatalks bugs. As long as I subscribe to any new topic I like or navigate to 'participated' or 'timeline' it's easy to find your post again in a lovely iPhone style ordered list.
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Everytime I try and find RADBMX on FB I keep bringing up RADBMX shop.
Does anyone have a link to RADBMX page?
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Everytime I try and find RADBMX on FB I keep bringing up RADBMX shop.
Does anyone have a link to RADBMX page?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/radbmx/
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can I say, I have found this site very difficult to navigate in respect of :
1. After replying to posts, hard to find if your response successfully posted. You go back to "show unread posts since last visit" and the post you just posted in has gone !!!
I think you can set up your profile so that after you make a post it returns you to the thread - I'll have a check & get back to you ;)
This exactly another reason I put up with tapatalks bugs. As long as I subscribe to any new topic I like or navigate to 'participated' or 'timeline' it's easy to find your post again in a lovely iPhone style ordered list.
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if you click the 'show new replies to your posts' link at the top of the page it does that for you anyway :daumenhoch:
Everytime I try and find RADBMX on FB I keep bringing up RADBMX shop.
Does anyone have a link to RADBMX page?
here you go :daumenhoch: www.facebook.com/groups/radbmx/?fref=nf
I think comments like this highlight the reason why people stay away from RAD forum..
you haven't exactly endeared yourself to Rad members in the past Lee but as long as you are still here then I hope people will refrain from the personal insults, I will remove the comments and politely request that they stop
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can I say, I have found this site very difficult to navigate in respect of :
1. After replying to posts, hard to find if your response successfully posted. You go back to "show unread posts since last visit" and the post you just posted in has gone !!!
OK - here's how you do it...
go to your profile
-click on the portal tab above, then look for the profile link on the left hand side
-click on the link that says 'look and layout'
you'll then see a range of options that you can tick/untick, look for the one that says 'Return to topics after posting by default' and make sure that's ticked
Then every time you post you'll be automatically sent back to the thread you posted in :daumenhoch:
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Thanks !!
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its not facebook that damaging this site, its some of the users on it.
at the beginning of this thread there were comments about how slow it is and the lack of new threads etc etc
so i started 10 new threads, 1 in tech and 9 in interviews, i even started a thread in chat informing everyone about the new threads, so what was the responce.......
tech thread (how to shiney side rims) 121 views, 7 replies
9 different interview threads, 166 views, 9 replies
yet this thread is now at 10 pages, seems to me more people are interested in an argument than in BMX :( :(
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its not facebook that damaging this site, its some of the users on it.
at the beginning of this thread there were comments about how slow it is and the lack of new threads etc etc
so i started 10 new threads, 1 in tech and 9 in interviews, i even started a thread in chat informing everyone about the new threads, so what was the responce.......
tech thread (how to shiney side rims) 121 views, 7 replies
9 different interview threads, 166 views, 9 replies
yet this thread is now at 10 pages, seems to me more people are interested in an argument than in BMX :( :(
I agree Andy, taking the time to open a thread and read, such as your shiny side thread, but not taking the time to comment is a bit fooking lazy IMHO. "nono"
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The shiney side thread was awesome :daumenhoch:
I've started a Cleethorpes ride thread and a GT World Tour thread too.
Are they linked?
;)
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its not facebook that damaging this site, its some of the users on it.
at the beginning of this thread there were comments about how slow it is and the lack of new threads etc etc
so i started 10 new threads, 1 in tech and 9 in interviews, i even started a thread in chat informing everyone about the new threads, so what was the responce.......
tech thread (how to shiney side rims) 121 views, 7 replies
9 different interview threads, 166 views, 9 replies
yet this thread is now at 10 pages, seems to me more people are interested in an argument than in BMX :( :(
I've read through a couple of the interviews so far but didn't comment in them directly, not out of laziness but didn't want to clutter them up. I did comment in the thread you started saying that you'd done it though
Quite often you see a ratio of about 10% of comments/views so those stats aren't too far off the norm tbh
you're not wrong though, people here and on FB do love a bit of drama, no doubt there'll be another one soon
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The shiney side thread was awesome :daumenhoch:
I've started a Cleethorpes ride thread and a GT World Tour thread too.
Are they linked?
;)
linked? I linked the Cleethorpes ride to the calendar already , not seen t'other one
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The shiney side thread was awesome :daumenhoch:
I've started a Cleethorpes ride thread and a GT World Tour thread too.
Are they linked?
;)
linked? I linked the Cleethorpes ride to the calendar already , not seen t'other one
Are they linked to each other! :LolLolLolLol:
:nickswan:
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Thanks for tips Griff
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its not facebook that damaging this site, its some of the users on it.
at the beginning of this thread there were comments about how slow it is and the lack of new threads etc etc
so i started 10 new threads, 1 in tech and 9 in interviews, i even started a thread in chat informing everyone about the new threads, so what was the responce.......
tech thread (how to shiney side rims) 121 views, 7 replies
9 different interview threads, 166 views, 9 replies
yet this thread is now at 10 pages, seems to me more people are interested in an argument than in BMX :( :(
I've read through a couple of the interviews so far but didn't comment in them directly, not out of laziness but didn't want to clutter them up. I did comment in the thread you started saying that you'd done it though
Quite often you see a ratio of about 10% of comments/views so those stats aren't too far off the norm tbh
you're not wrong though, people here and on FB do love a bit of drama, no doubt there'll be another one soon
exactly the point i'm trying to make John, unless its a drama/argument thread then most people just aren't interested :(
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they will be when it's time to shiny side their rims!!
I guess people are always ready for a bit of a moan or an argument
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We're (predominately) British, we love a good moan & a good argument :daumenhoch:
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We're (predominately) British, we love a good moan & a good argument :daumenhoch:
No we don't!
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Anyone remember 2003?
No Facebook.
What did some people do back then?
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Anyone remember 2003?
No Facebook.
What did some people do back then?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace
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Anyone remember 2003?
No Facebook.
What did some people do back then?
We used the old blue screen site or BMXTalk...
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So do I join bloody Facebook or wot?
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No
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Imagine if there was a forum where there was a similar amount of energy demonstrated in this thread but dedicated to BMX.
It could be anything but I love BMX so I used that as an example.
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Indeed. Spose wot everyone's saying in a nutshell is to be wary of Facebook taking over everything. Personally I hate the way Facebook has taken over so much. Most of the Twitter pages I look at are info generated from bloody Facebook and refer back to FB login screen if you want any more info or to reply. BUT more importantly. If I want to keep in touch with alot of BMX groups there is no other way than to be forced to join FB. now that's a dictatorship in my books.
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DOWN WITH FACEBOOK
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Nearly as many votes on this as there were on the last 2 months botm voting and much more than the few months before that and that's without Dan having to plug away reminding people to vote for people's hard work n dedication no plugs for this vote n it's right up there in the hundreds already .... Forget Facebook thsts the issue right there
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oh well shut down rad fb and no will see my last 5 builds :buck2: :buck2: :buck2:
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oh well shut down rad fb and no will see my last 5 builds :buck2: :buck2: :buck2:
Who woke you up?
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oh well shut down rad fb and no will see my last 5 builds :buck2: :buck2: :buck2:
Who woke you up?
:'( :'( ive been in hiding for months trying to get over selling you my ET ^"^ ^"^
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oh well shut down rad fb and no will see my last 5 builds :buck2: :buck2: :buck2:
what builds?
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oh well shut down rad fb and no will see my last 5 builds :buck2: :buck2: :buck2:
Who woke you up?
:'( :'( ive been in hiding for months trying to get over selling you my ET ^"^ ^"^
You know you did the right thing, only took a couple of years asking :LolLolLolLol:
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oh well shut down rad fb and no will see my last 5 builds :buck2: :buck2: :buck2:
Steven check your facebook pms :daumenhoch:
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I think that wanted posts should also be banned from the FB page.
The last few days (since the ban on general sales) wanted ads have been on the increase. All this does is give the non SST holders chance to IM the person wanting the part, thus avoiding getting an SST and bending the rules of the group.
Not very fair on the SST holders, and those who are really sticking to the rules, IMHO. :daumenhoch:
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I think that wanted posts should also be banned from the FB page.
The last few days (since the ban on general sales) wanted ads have been on the increase. All this does is give the non SST holders chance to IM the person wanting the part, thus avoiding getting an SST and bending the rules of the group.
Not very fair on the SST holders, and those who are really sticking to the rules, IMHO. :daumenhoch:
Agreed, already suggested this over here at the weekend
Can we make it so you need a tag to post wanteds in here too?
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Still not on Facebook, but post pics on instagram.