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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: Jono on October 30, 2014, 10:17 PM
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I'm considering buying an str-1 frame off the bay from him know it's a replica but has anyone had anything from him before n how good are his frames
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havent had frames but have dealt with gary a few times and he is a good lad :daumenhoch:
have bars and cranks and the workmanship is top notch
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I had a tnt stem and some bars. Good bloke and some nice stuff
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Never bought any of his stuff, but almost have a few times. Seems like a nice guy to deal with, and his stuff is meant to be top quality.
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I've spoken to Gary a few times through email, very helpful and willing to change parts slightly to suit your needs.
I will be ordering a stem from him soon as soon as I can fund it.
I would have no problem dealing with him and his workmanship looks great :daumenhoch:
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Have met Gary a couple of times and have had some parts from him; great bloke and ultra reliable. He will be doing the repair on my Patterson Pro Long soon :daumenhoch:
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He made the Bottema forks on my prototype Gen 1 anniversary frame and they were the single piece of oldschool BMX I didn't want to sell they were absolutely stunning :'(
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First class top stuff ...
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Thanks for the advice boys you've all swayed it for me so just bought a prototype STR-1 frame set from him
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"wantit" :daumenhoch:
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I looked at that frame, but wondered to myself just how the hell you would build it?
You can either go the route of convincing yourself and the world that it is an original (as somebody has already done) and put vintage parts on it, but then that seems weird to put really old parts on a brand new frame. Kind of like buying a brand new Ferrari, but putting wire wheels on it, replacing the modern interior with an old vinyl bench seat and making it start with a crank handle sticking out of the front grill.
Or go the route of putting reproduction/retro/modern parts on it, but then that would be a waste of an expensive frame.
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I looked at that frame, but wondered to myself just how the hell you would build it?
You can either go the route of convincing yourself and the world that it is an original (as somebody has already done) and put vintage parts on it, but then that seems weird to put really old parts on a brand new frame. Kind of like buying a brand new Ferrari, but putting wire wheels on it, replacing the modern interior with an old vinyl bench seat and making it start with a crank handle sticking out of the front grill.
Or go the route of putting reproduction/retro/modern parts on it, but then that would be a waste of an expensive frame.
I hear that, a dilemma for any purchaser but like those guys that buy The Eagle Roadster or the Singer 911 I guess it's all about the nostalgia look with modern equipment but in this case only Jono can answer that question!
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Era correct parts, either OG or repop. Yes its a replica, but i'm sure it'll look really cool when it's done. Looking forward to seeing it Jono.
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if money was no object then I'd have one, there aint no way you gona get an original one so why not!
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Era correct parts, either OG or repop. Yes its a replica, but i'm sure it'll look really cool when it's done. Looking forward to seeing it Jono.
Era correct? So modern parts as it is a brand new frame.
Or 70s parts? Which isn't era correct.
It is a toughie.
Jono will no doubt do a sterling job on it, and it really is a nice piece of kit.
I was just thinking about how I would build it personally and I wouldn't know what to do with it.
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It was the same when the looptail Quadangle was retro'd 7 years ago now (damn is it 7 years already?).
You had to decide whether it was think of the bike as an oldschool and put oldschool parts on or treat it as a modern bike and put modern parts on it.
When I built mine back then I found parts that looked oldschool but in fact were new.. Not a single OS part on this bike...
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v518/stidds/SE%20Quadangle%202007/Quad07-11.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/stidds/media/SE%20Quadangle%202007/Quad07-11.jpg.html)
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Seen a photo on Google of stu thomsen with his prototype so hoping to source similar parts n building a rep of it (well that's the plan) put it up on fb n got slated for it, I know it's not everybody's cup of tea but wanted a quad n this is the ultimate and as said earlier never gunna find one so we all make sacrifices on our builds ok I'm making the ultimate one but people buy new haro sports masters etc n no one says a thing n let's face it it's built to spec with right materials n probably better welds so I can live with it , thanks for the positive comments and also thanks to those who are reeling at the thought of it but say nothing :LolLolLolLol:
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It will be an interesting build Jono, good luck to you with it.
What you should do to make it look the part is get it painted in the colour you decide and then beat it a few times with a chain or the like to chip the paint and make it look worn. :LolLolLolLol:
That would look ace.
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Am I missing something has someone tried to pass one off as the real thing stidds
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Am I missing something has someone tried to pass one off as the real thing stidds
It was mentioned (not by me, but somebody on here recently) that somebody over in Australia has one but has said that it is an original and he has had it for years.
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What you should do to make it look the part is get it painted in the colour you decide and then beat it a few times with a chain or the like to chip the paint and make it look worn. :LolLolLolLol:
Now, now Sean ::)
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What you should do to make it look the part is get it painted in the colour you decide and then beat it a few times with a chain or the like to chip the paint and make it look worn. :LolLolLolLol:
Now, now Sean ::)
No I actually wasn't joking or telling Jono to pass it off as something else. I just honestly think that if you are going the whole Stu Thomsen STR-1 rep route then beat the paint up a bit rather than glossy and brand new.
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Ah right think u gotta be good to pull the wool over people's eyes on here I'm not a repop man personally, not that I have a problem with those that use em so it's not been an easy decision for me but I'm looking forward to building n riding this one cheers
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If Gary made it , it will be as good or better than the original :daumenhoch:
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Era correct parts, either OG or repop. Yes its a replica, but i'm sure it'll look really cool when it's done. Looking forward to seeing it Jono.
Era correct? So modern parts as it is a brand new frame.
Or 70s parts? Which isn't era correct.
It is a toughie.
Jono will no doubt do a sterling job on it, and it really is a nice piece of kit.
I was just thinking about how I would build it personally and I wouldn't know what to do with it.
Era correct as in appropriate for it's age (so no Shot Gun II, Pro Neck 2 or MX 901's). But also using repop parts where needed/wanted such as Profile Anniversary cranks - repop, but would be era correct for the build if you catch my drift...
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It is a lovely frame. :smitten: The skill thats gone into making it. :4_17_5: Nice to hear its coming to the uk and looking forward to seeing the build. :)
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Not really sure what to say other than it's not for me but good luck with the build.
The main issue with the bloke in OZ was that he dished out a bs story about the frame and it's originality which helped him win 1st place at a show. He was then stripped of the trophy when the judges found out JC made it.
I'm with Sean and if you intend to replicate one of Stu's STR's it will be a very difficult build.
No doubt about JC's welding skills he's very much a craftsman.
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I'm not a repop man personally, not that I have a problem with those that use em so it's not been an easy decision for me but I'm looking forward to building n riding this one cheers
I think it's a cracking frame and building it would make a great project :daumenhoch:
I don't understand your reluctance to use replica parts as like it's a replica to start with :-\
I'm with DTTDB on the repops, I'd build it with as many repop parts as I could to suit a 79 bike, for example, Cinelli Unicantor seat and Cheng Shin 183s, I'd only use NOS were I had to.
I agree with Stidds about the difficulty in doing a replica of Stu's bike without the patina.
If you want to be really flamed you should post it on BMXsociety. :LolLolLolLol:
http://www.bmxsociety.com/topic/57421-the-str-1-info-thread/page-2
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Even though it's a copy , in 30 years time it will be a rare beast
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I'm not a repop man personally, not that I have a problem with those that use em so it's not been an easy decision for me but I'm looking forward to building n riding this one cheers
I think it's a cracking frame and building it would make a great project :daumenhoch:
I don't understand your reluctance to use replica parts as like it's a replica to start with :-\
I'm with DTTDB on the repops, I'd build it with as many repop parts as I could to suit a 79 bike, for example, Cinelli Unicantor seat and Cheng Shin 183s, I'd only use NOS were I had to.
I agree with Stidds about the difficulty in doing a replica of Stu's bike without the patina.
If you want to be really flamed you should post it on BMXsociety. :LolLolLolLol:
http://www.bmxsociety.com/topic/57421-the-str-1-info-thread/page-2
no issue with replica/repop parts just don't use em which may sound hypocritical buying this but as there is no other option went for it , I like to swap n change my builds around so would rather stick with old school parts for that reason I'm sure people put anniversary parts on there old school bikes just like people put old school parts on their anniversary frame sets so trying to make my fake look as authentic as I can that is all, I'm no elitist nor purist as all those who constantly give me shit (Denzil) refinishing my survivors lol, will testify
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Good luck with the build Jono :daumenhoch:
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I think you'll do alright.
You've had plenty of input and interest in what should be done so it's up to you. It's your bike after all?
I'm not a purist but I also love the superb era correct bikes made and shared here purely from a nostalgia point of view.
Just look at Octobers BOTM? Incredible lineup there.
Myself I put on new stuff because I don't have anything seriously retro yet.
I also consider, as I ride all mine fairly hard I won't be trusting 30 year old pedals on 30 year old cranks held up by 30 year old stem on 30 year old bars. From metal fatigue point of view something's gotta give.
Admittedly the oldest part on one of mine is an 84 tuff neck Chainwheel. Not much to go wrong there so balance it out and it'll be fine.
So good luck and bung it up for us to follow. I'm sure you'll be getting a lot of hits and help.
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I'm not a repop man personally, not that I have a problem with those that use em so it's not been an easy decision for me but I'm looking forward to building n riding this one cheers
I think it's a cracking frame and building it would make a great project :daumenhoch:
I don't understand your reluctance to use replica parts as like it's a replica to start with :-\
I'm with DTTDB on the repops, I'd build it with as many repop parts as I could to suit a 79 bike, for example, Cinelli Unicantor seat and Cheng Shin 183s, I'd only use NOS were I had to.
I agree with Stidds about the difficulty in doing a replica of Stu's bike without the patina.
If you want to be really flamed you should post it on BMXsociety. :LolLolLolLol:
http://www.bmxsociety.com/topic/57421-the-str-1-info-thread/page-2
Thanks for making it easy for me by not having tour type a long reply "wantit"
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cant see a problem with using 70s/80s parts on it, it wasnt an issue when the Haro or GHP frames came out, no one batted an eyelid then.....
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cant see a problem with using 70s/80s parts on it, it wasnt an issue when the Haro or GHP frames came out, no one batted an eyelid then.....
Yes they did Andy, there was discussions all over the place. Maybe not so much on here but Museum, Vintage, Society were awash with threads.
Plus to be honest there is a difference between a run of the mill Haro or GHP and one of the rarest frames in this hobby.
Jono can and should do whatever he wants with his frame, however because of what it is you will always get people that hate that frame.
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whatever he puts on it will probably fall off anyway lol ;) :LolLolLolLol:
Joking apart Ali, build what you want, it's your bike. F'kem if they bitch :daumenhoch:
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cant see a problem with using 70s/80s parts on it, it wasnt an issue when the Haro or GHP frames came out, no one batted an eyelid then.....
Yes they did Andy, there was discussions all over the place. Maybe not so much on here but Museum, Vintage, Society were awash with threads.
Plus to be honest there is a difference between a run of the mill Haro or GHP and one of the rarest frames in this hobby.
Jono can and should do whatever he wants with his frame, however because of what it is you will always get people that hate that frame.
i agree with what you are saying about run of the mill v the rarity of the the STR-! but Jono is not trying to pass it off as OG so i dont see a problem with using old parts to keep with the spirit of the frame, but as others have said, its his do with as he pleases and what ever he does i'm sure it will look sweet :daumenhoch:
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Ali, just don't put coloured tyres on, or tyres that will pop when you ride the focker. :LolLolLolLol:
Or a snake post. ::)
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cant see a problem with using 70s/80s parts on it, it wasnt an issue when the Haro or GHP frames came out, no one batted an eyelid then.....
Yes they did Andy, there was discussions all over the place. Maybe not so much on here but Museum, Vintage, Society were awash with threads.
Plus to be honest there is a difference between a run of the mill Haro or GHP and one of the rarest frames in this hobby.
Jono can and should do whatever he wants with his frame, however because of what it is you will always get people that hate that frame.
i agree with what you are saying about run of the mill v the rarity of the the STR-! but Jono is not trying to pass it off as OG so i dont see a problem with using old parts to keep with the spirit of the frame, but as others have said, its his do do with as he pleases and what ever he does i'm sure it will look sweet :daumenhoch:
I never said he was trying to pass it off as OG, however somebody has done that with the other one made. Ali is a top bloke and wouldn't do that, I bet however if this one gets sold on in the future, it will sold somewhere down the line as an OG frame (not by Ali).
And I have all the way said he should do what he wants, I was discussing how you would build such a frame because 1970s parts on a 2014 frame seems weird, no matter what that frame spirit is.
I also thought the same thing when I saw people putting old parts on the retro looptail quadangle frames, it looked strange knowing you had this ultra modern frame made with modern materials and with better understanding of metals and welding and then bang on shit parts from 35 years ago.
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cant see a problem with using 70s/80s parts on it, it wasnt an issue when the Haro or GHP frames came out, no one batted an eyelid then.....
Yes they did Andy, there was discussions all over the place. Maybe not so much on here but Museum, Vintage, Society were awash with threads.
Plus to be honest there is a difference between a run of the mill Haro or GHP and one of the rarest frames in this hobby.
Jono can and should do whatever he wants with his frame, however because of what it is you will always get people that hate that frame.
i agree with what you are saying about run of the mill v the rarity of the the STR-! but Jono is not trying to pass it off as OG so i dont see a problem with using old parts to keep with the spirit of the frame, but as others have said, its his do do with as he pleases and what ever he does i'm sure it will look sweet :daumenhoch:
I never said he was trying to pass it off as OG, however somebody has done that with the other one made. Ali is a top bloke and wouldn't do that, I bet however if this one gets sold on in the future, it will sold somewhere down the line as an OG frame (not by Ali).
And I have all the way said he should do what he wants, I was discussing how you would build such a frame because 1970s parts on a 2014 frame seems weird, no matter what that frame spirit is.
I also thought the same thing when I saw people putting old parts on the retro looptail quadangle frames, it looked strange knowing you had this ultra modern frame made with modern materials and with better understanding of metals and welding and then bang on shit parts from 35 years ago.
sorry mate, maybe that came across wrong, i wasnt saying you said he was trying to pass it off as OG and i know you said he should build it as he wants :daumenhoch:
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cant see a problem with using 70s/80s parts on it, it wasnt an issue when the Haro or GHP frames came out, no one batted an eyelid then.....
Yes they did Andy, there was discussions all over the place. Maybe not so much on here but Museum, Vintage, Society were awash with threads.
Plus to be honest there is a difference between a run of the mill Haro or GHP and one of the rarest frames in this hobby.
Jono can and should do whatever he wants with his frame, however because of what it is you will always get people that hate that frame.
i agree with what you are saying about run of the mill v the rarity of the the STR-! but Jono is not trying to pass it off as OG so i dont see a problem with using old parts to keep with the spirit of the frame, but as others have said, its his do do with as he pleases and what ever he does i'm sure it will look sweet :daumenhoch:
I never said he was trying to pass it off as OG, however somebody has done that with the other one made. Ali is a top bloke and wouldn't do that, I bet however if this one gets sold on in the future, it will sold somewhere down the line as an OG frame (not by Ali).
And I have all the way said he should do what he wants, I was discussing how you would build such a frame because 1970s parts on a 2014 frame seems weird, no matter what that frame spirit is.
I also thought the same thing when I saw people putting old parts on the retro looptail quadangle frames, it looked strange knowing you had this ultra modern frame made with modern materials and with better understanding of metals and welding and then bang on shit parts from 35 years ago.
sorry mate, maybe that came across wrong, i wasnt saying you said he was trying to pass it off as OG and i know you said he should build it as he wants :daumenhoch:
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I am however really looking forward to Ali's build of this frame, and if he is going the vintage route I really want to know how much he spends, cause it aint gonna be cheap :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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The GHP thread on the BMXmuseum was about 50 pages long and Greg Hill contributed to the thread but he was continually flamed by minority of usual suspects to the point he washed his hands of the thread and the OS scene at that point, don't know whether he reconsidered his position later.
I thought this was pretty sad as out of all the companies who have put replicas, reproductions, repops, copies, fakes or whatever you want to call them out there, if anyone had the right to reproduce his own products and make a few quid out of them he did.
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It's a tough one Ali........
What you going to do?
All 70's parts built as a rep or
a mix of old school parts?
C'mon big boy, spill the beans :D ;D
I know of a few members on here that have put reproduced parts on their old school bikes, including a couple in this thread, and myself. It is easy to make things looked aged, when they are in fact, brand new :) I also know of a few that will swear blind that they are old items too ::)
I don't understand the gripe and I don't understand why people will go on forever about it. It will be photo'd and documented with the pictures being easy accessible on the web and, anyone who would be searching for this particular model would also know that it is not original.
Just don't try and make it something it isn't and the build will come together nicely. It's when you try too hard that it will look out of place :daumenhoch:
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am i right in thinking that these JC frames are stamped so that they cant be passed off as OG anyway ?
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cant see a problem with using 70s/80s parts on it, it wasnt an issue when the Haro or GHP frames came out, no one batted an eyelid then.....
Yes they did Andy, there was discussions all over the place. Maybe not so much on here but Museum, Vintage, Society were awash with threads.
Plus to be honest there is a difference between a run of the mill Haro or GHP and one of the rarest frames in this hobby.
Jono can and should do whatever he wants with his frame, however because of what it is you will always get people that hate that frame.
i agree with what you are saying about run of the mill v the rarity of the the STR-! but Jono is not trying to pass it off as OG so i dont see a problem with using old parts to keep with the spirit of the frame, but as others have said, its his do do with as he pleases and what ever he does i'm sure it will look sweet :daumenhoch:
I never said he was trying to pass it off as OG, however somebody has done that with the other one made. Ali is a top bloke and wouldn't do that, I bet however if this one gets sold on in the future, it will sold somewhere down the line as an OG frame (not by Ali).
And I have all the way said he should do what he wants, I was discussing how you would build such a frame because 1970s parts on a 2014 frame seems weird, no matter what that frame spirit is.
I also thought the same thing when I saw people putting old parts on the retro looptail quadangle frames, it looked strange knowing you had this ultra modern frame made with modern materials and with better understanding of metals and welding and then bang on shit parts from 35 years ago.
Bingo. One day it will be sold as a prototype. It happens every time
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am i right in thinking that these JC frames are stamped so that they cant be passed off as OG anyway ?
Stamping does nothing to be honest, bit of welding and grinding and that is gone.
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Bingo. One day it will be sold as a prototype. It happens every time
Possibly :-\ .... but knowing Jono it won't happen when/if he comes to sell it ;) He will build it how he want's and best of all it will be out on Rad rides next year for all us lot to see . Looking forward to seeing what you do with it mate . Love it or hate it .... it's still one cool frameset to have in your collection imo 8)
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Yeah, but I highly doubt he will own it for the next 5years, much less 10 or 15. It's possible I guess
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Yeah, but I highly doubt he will own it for the next 5years, much less 10 or 15. It's possible I guess
Totally understand were your coming from and yes it is a potential concern in the future , all i know is that Jono would never pass it on as something it isn't .
If the new owner does well shame on him >:( , it's cnuts like that that need kicking out of this hobby .
In an ideal world the frameset would never have been made but it isn't and i for one is glad someone like Jono has bought it over some dodgy fooker .
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Yeah, but I highly doubt he will own it for the next 5years, much less 10 or 15. It's possible I guess
Totally understand were your coming from and yes it is a potential concern in the future , all i know is that Jono would never pass it on as something it isn't .
If the new owner does well shame on him >:( , it's cnuts like that that need kicking out of this hobby .
Ali is a good egg (don't tell him that cause I tell him that he is a cnut ;) ;D ) and we have absolutely no problem with him anything remotely crap.
It really is the next couple of owners that may start problems, selling it on to unsuspecting victims. However a massive chunk of blame needs to go to the man who built this frame, great frame and all that but did it (and its twin) really need to be made in the first place?
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I didn't go out and get a Ferrari made to sell because they are rare and expensive. ???
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Yeah, but I highly doubt he will own it for the next 5years, much less 10 or 15. It's possible I guess
Totally understand were your coming from and yes it is a potential concern in the future , all i know is that Jono would never pass it on as something it isn't .
If the new owner does well shame on him >:( , it's cnuts like that that need kicking out of this hobby .
Ali is a good egg (don't tell him that cause I tell him that he is a cnut ;) ;D ) and we have absolutely no problem with him anything remotely crap.
It really is the next couple of owners that may start problems, selling it on to unsuspecting victims. However a massive chunk of blame needs to go to the man who built this frame, great frame and all that but did it (and its twin) really need to be made in the first place?
Totally agree Sean :daumenhoch:
Let's hope Ali never sells it :D
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Yeah, but I highly doubt he will own it for the next 5years, much less 10 or 15. It's possible I guess
Totally understand were your coming from and yes it is a potential concern in the future , all i know is that Jono would never pass it on as something it isn't .
If the new owner does well shame on him >:( , it's cnuts like that that need kicking out of this hobby .
Ali is a good egg (don't tell him that cause I tell him that he is a cnut ;) ;D ) and we have absolutely no problem with him anything remotely crap.
It really is the next couple of owners that may start problems, selling it on to unsuspecting victims. However a massive chunk of blame needs to go to the man who built this frame, great frame and all that but did it (and its twin) really need to be made in the first place?
It is a good point n to be honest not one I'd thought of about someone in the future trying to pass it off as og all I can do is be honest with you all and as you say this build will be documented on here for eternity as a rep build. i don't think it's that big a problem I very much doubt there are any more of the og out there so anybody trying to pass it off as such will be found out very quickly I'm intending building a stu thomsen replica and no doubt some will be holding me by the bollox as I try to get parts, am already talking to ash to get advice on og parts all of which are apparently hard to find n most of which he has !!!!
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N it's all your faults my initial post was asking as I was considering getting it, all positive comments , till I hand over the money now!!!!!!! Shit hits the fan lol
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N it's all your faults my initial post was asking as I was considering getting it, all positive comments , till I hand over the money now!!!!!!! Shit hits the fan lol
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Don't worry about it Ali , just get it built and out on the rides next summer 8) :daumenhoch:
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Well at least these are out in the open unlike other fakes and this gives potential purchasers even down the line a head start because everybody knows they are out there.
IMO you would be able to tell one of these without stamping, danger would lie in a long distance purchase which relies on a sellers integrity and I for one wouldn't be paying the sort of money one of these would command without seeing it in person.
If someone does actually buy a frame like this without any provenance then they are a fool and as the old saying goes "a fool and their money are easily parted", caveat emptor, happens in any hobby where people collect things and the items are valuable.
If you ever do sell Jono if a fella with a foreign sounding name arrives in a camper let everybody know. :daumenhoch:
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:pilky: foreign sounding fella with a camper? .... But no probs :LolLolLolLol:
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The maker should place a microchip inside one of the tubes, easy enough to weld into place and cheap to buy.
You have the manufacturer, date, etc etc.
Whoever buys it can take it down the vets to verify it for a tiny fee.
Would cost peanuts in the scheme of things.
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these are the only 2 images i can find thinking about recreating the tan version unless anyone has images of other versions need pl-1 clamp, addick chainring n spider, takagi mx crank looks like gold stem (joff u tit) thats just for starters theres a pl-1 clamp on ebay at moment he wants 300 dollars so if thats how things are gunna b it might get expensive
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these are the only 2 images i can find thinking about recreating the tan version unless anyone has images of other versions need pl-1 clamp, addick chainring n spider, takagi mx crank looks like gold stem (joff u tit) thats just for starters theres a pl-1 clamp on ebay at moment he wants 300 dollars so if thats how things are gunna b it might get expensive
;D Sorry Jono :-[ I have said many times to you not to part with anything as you always end up needing it . It is now has pride of place on my Team goose 8)
On the plus side , Carl might have the addicks spider ... he defo had one a while back and im pretty sure he hasn't used it on a build ;) both myself and Carl have addicks chainrings but they are Red :D
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could ring be dyed joff?
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could ring be dyed joff?
Im not too sure , never done one . Could do with finding out what they are made of , if they are nylon they should dye ;) I'll take a look at my Red one .
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just got a nos yellow one u got any black rit left
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these are the only 2 images i can find thinking about recreating the tan version unless anyone has images of other versions need pl-1 clamp, addick chainring n spider, takagi mx crank looks like gold stem (joff u tit) thats just for starters theres a pl-1 clamp on ebay at moment he wants 300 dollars so if thats how things are gunna b it might get expensive
;D Sorry Jono :-[ I have said many times to you not to part with anything as you always end up needing it . It is now has pride of place on my Team goose 8)
On the plus side , Carl might have the addicks spider ... he defo had one a while back and im pretty sure he hasn't used it on a build ;) both myself and Carl have addicks chainrings but they are Red :D
I now have that spider.
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The Tan bike has been replicated using a loopy Quad.
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just got a nos yellow one u got any black rit left
I haven't at the mo mate , I used my last 2 packs trying to dye some A'me grips for me and Gaz (poolysherrif) just before MK . They didn't take too well ::)
I can give it a go though Jono if your not confident doing it ;)
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I wonder which frame these were copied from are there were a few different styles, main difference was some had a plate between the down tubes in front of the bb some had a hole some didn't others had no plate plus the drops were in different positions.
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now if someone can just find a matching outfit for Jono to borrow for the photo shoot......!
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I don't see anything wrong in building the Stu Rep,with oldschool parts.
End of the day he will probably never own a real one so this is his best bet.
No different than someone who wants a Porsche buying a Chesil Speedster.
His bike,his money,his life. :daumenhoch:
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I'm in america at the moment, and just bought a load of black rit dye. Can you wait 2 weeks before giving it a go, and i'll sort you out (no charge). Joff, i'll be asking for your advice too as i need to re-dye a shotgun seat and some brake cables. I'll supply the dye if you can lend your knowledge?
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sounds great andy cheers and i was always gunna give it for u to do joff anyway
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Nice one Jono - i'll be in touch when I get back in 2 weeks
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now if someone can just find a matching outfit for Jono to borrow for the photo shoot......!
I'd already thought of it haha
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fook all that! get some 990 lugs welded on the coont and 14mm dropouts! :daumenhoch: then paint it sparkly orange and pink :daumenhoch: ;)
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fook all that! get some 990 lugs welded on the coont and 14mm dropouts! :daumenhoch: then paint it sparkly orange and pink :daumenhoch: ;)
..... and load it with NRP's 8)
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now your fooking talking Joff! now you're talking! ;D
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now your fooking talking Joff! now you're talking! ;D
;D :coolsmiley:
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nrp's :pilky: (non repro parts) :wtf:
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Come on jono keep up, New Reproduction Parts......its the new buzz word :daumenhoch:
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Come on jono keep up, New Reproduction Parts......its the new buzz word :daumenhoch:
I like it, it's got a nice ring to it. :4_17_5:
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Go for it mate .... Do a Stu T replica ... Put authentic parts on it ... Sod everybody else mate... It's your build so your rules... Whatever floats your boat! :daumenhoch:
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Come on jono keep up, New Reproduction Parts......its the new buzz word :daumenhoch:
I like it, it's got a nice ring to it. :4_17_5:
Jobs ingenious invention Dan :daumenhoch: