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Title: New park coming down the road from me updated pics
Post by: Blacky on November 04, 2014, 10:25 PM
How it looked with the concrete taken up you can sort of see the transitions and plans of the new aposed park
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Post by: deeman on November 04, 2014, 11:31 PM
WOW! that looks sick! whereabouts are you??!! :daumenhoch:
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Post by: Blacky on November 05, 2014, 07:30 AM
WOW! that looks sick! whereabouts are you??!! :daumenhoch:

Calne, wiltshire
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Post by: pickle on November 05, 2014, 07:56 AM
looks ace!  :daumenhoch:
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Post by: martin46 on November 06, 2014, 07:54 AM
Crikey that's gonna be quite different to how it was and a massive improvement  :daumenhoch: Although I did enjoy riding the old one.
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Post by: BMX1973 on November 06, 2014, 08:37 AM
Nice  8)
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Post by: Blacky on December 10, 2014, 04:12 PM
New pics
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Post by: griff on December 10, 2014, 10:59 PM
Looks good so far - please keep us posted  :daumenhoch:
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Post by: Blacky on December 11, 2014, 04:34 AM
Looks good but I must admit with the space they had They've made it pretty tight
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Post by: bmxband1t77 on December 11, 2014, 04:40 AM
Yeah it does look a little tight.


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Post by: BMX1973 on December 11, 2014, 11:49 AM

Adds to the photogragh the chap in the Vans jumper.  8) Looking great overall. Will hopefully get a lot of use from the locals.  :)
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Post by: Blacky on January 09, 2015, 04:51 PM
Today
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Post by: insectbones on January 12, 2015, 08:02 AM
Looks a nice little park  :daumenhoch:
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Post by: TwoBobRob on January 12, 2015, 01:29 PM
Just like so many modern concrete parks this one has a couple of very annoying design flaws. I really don't understand how they continue to get away with it.

That said, summat is better than nowt and least you will have somewhere to ride.

Who's the contractor - Wheelscape by any chance?

 

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Post by: BMX1973 on January 12, 2015, 05:20 PM
Big o'plot that. One of the biggest I've seen built lately.  :)


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Post by: Blacky on January 12, 2015, 06:44 PM
Its deceiving the old bowl was huge and took a good amount of Space. Now this one is half the size i think it's mainly for scooters now as the council would never listen to anyone. I was involved in getting the old bowl. As always they went for the "cheaper" option so many other great plans were drawn. Not sure who the contractor is. But I do know that non of them have ever had anything to do with bmx,skateboard or anything along those lines. They simply said  it's good mioney
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Post by: TwoBobRob on January 13, 2015, 04:58 AM
A lot of the concrete skatepark companies use contractors to actually pour their parks. That's why you get such variations in quality from the same firm nationwide.

It also appears to permit a nice way to swerve warranty issues, which makes them despicable in my opinion.   

Councils are putting in concrete parks in the belief they are maintenance free. Completely untrue. The maintenance and warranty issues can be huge - I was looking at a concrete park local to me recently that is around 10 years old. It has separated and sunk. You now have cracks, gaps and steps that fail all current playground and skatepark regulations and are unrepairable. The only solution for this particular park is the bulldozer.

From memory, it was 200k when it went in.  For the same money and same size plot, my company could install a steel frame and plywood or composite riding surfaced park and maintain it to the highest standards for 20 years plus, including a redesign/rebuild so it evolves with the sport. Try explaining/selling that to a council though - virtually impossible.

I love concrete parks. I grew up at Rom but I hate what these new firms are doing to the industry and ultimately the sport. They're getting it wrong, they know it and they don't care. Grrr!

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Post by: Blacky on January 13, 2015, 04:59 PM
The company is wheelscape. Anyone know anything about them apart from building parks the length of a bmx
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Post by: GT-Timmo on January 13, 2015, 07:10 PM
Is that Phil Charnley from Sheffield way in the grey Vans top. If it isn't hes got a double.
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Post by: Blacky on January 13, 2015, 07:42 PM
Is that Phil Charnley from Sheffield way in the grey Vans top. If it isn't hes got a double.

No that's a mate of mine
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Post by: nosepickben on January 13, 2015, 09:54 PM
Is that Phil Charnley from Sheffield way in the grey Vans top. If it isn't hes got a double.

No, Phil is thinner, greyer and lovelier than the man in the picture.  ;D
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Post by: Blacky on January 13, 2015, 09:58 PM
Is that Phil Charnley from Sheffield way in the grey Vans top. If it isn't hes got a double.

No, Phil is thinner, greyer and lovelier than the man in the picture.  ;D

How would you know?? He is pretty luvly
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Post by: TwoBobRob on January 14, 2015, 09:48 AM
I know lots and lots about Wheelscape but I won't commit anything to print here.

I will tell you they're not my favourite and you'll see by my earlier post I knew it was them simply by the layout of the park.

I will tell you to find out who's signing that job off at the council and try and get into him/her for any and all snagging as soon as you discover anything because I'll bet you a pound to a pinch of shit you'll never see the firm again after they've been paid.

The successful high quality Wheelscape parks have had two things in common historically; An extremely strong and committed user group and great luck with the actual build team who turned up.

Oxford Wheels springs to mind. Not a bad park at all really, Hastings equally so.   Conversely, Harold Hill in Essex has failed almost immediately - there's water pouring into the park through cracks in the transitions and Wheelscape care so little that they didn't even point in between the coping stones around the top on the bowl there. a small thing to us, a monumental error to a skater.



 
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Post by: Blacky on January 14, 2015, 10:29 AM
I did meet the owner he came across as a bit of a d&ŁK. Hasn't a clue really about anything i was talking to him about. I think that's because I asked for a jump box that was longer than a bmx
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Post by: TwoBobRob on January 14, 2015, 05:38 PM
Nor is he likely to understand you'd like a reasonably safe approach and egress from that jumpbox either, especially as it's the fastest line in the park. That park has got collision written all over it. Just like so many others.

Was he an Irishman?  The face of Wheelscape is from Northern Ireland and has skated for a good long while - he should know his stuff.



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Post by: Blacky on January 14, 2015, 06:52 PM
No he wasn't he said he was based in Bristol, maybe it was just a Forman
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Post by: TwoBobRob on January 15, 2015, 05:53 PM
Probably. Site foreman or ganger type. I think they employ some permanent staff that go to site but the lads working the muck are subbies.

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Post by: Blacky on January 30, 2015, 12:49 PM
Gutted no landing area so possed of that this is so small when the kast was so big
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Post by: TwoBobRob on January 31, 2015, 09:50 AM
Unfortunately, this is so often the case. The footprint belies the true size of the end product.

I truly believe that overall, the modern concrete skatepark industry is killing the sport not enhancing it.

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Post by: OrgasmDonor on January 31, 2015, 12:27 PM
better than a kick in the cunt tho  :daumenhoch:
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Post by: Blacky on February 14, 2015, 06:45 PM
Well it's open I had a ride today to see what it's like.... Fair enough it's a park  it has transition and coping one step up from the old one. But talk about collision course jees I was complaining about the length of the jump box being to small well I found out why  you cant get a run up to clear and if you do you either flat bottom or go around the run off out and your met by people coming over a spine or going around into the the path of the jump box take off again. Who thinks of these designs
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Post by: TwoBobRob on February 15, 2015, 12:12 AM
I've yet to meet anyone who wants to ride a spine followed by a box or vice versa and yet they are continually being worked in as some sort of cool design feature.

Unfortunately, the designs that turn kids heads in the consultations rarely work in reality.

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