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Title: What keeps the pressure in tyres?
Post by: McQUEEN on January 13, 2015, 02:44 PM
I've got a set of Panaracer Freestyle tyres, NOS before I fitted them, and the front way stay pumped up, but the rear loses its pressure after a week or so.

I've checked, there's no puncture in the tube and the valve isn't letting air by.....The tyre looks fine, it was a little dry, but I made them a little more supple by treating with Autogym Vinyl and rubber care treatment.

The tube has been changed over as well, and the originally installed one is fine in another tyre....

The question is, can a tyre get old and not support / hold the inner tube and / or has anyone get an ideas??
Title: Re: What keeps the pressure in tyres?
Post by: hokuspokus74 on January 13, 2015, 03:01 PM
Did you try the tubes in water,that happened me,when i had the tubes in water there was very small holes and the valve was letting some air out. are the tubes dozed?
Title: Re: What keeps the pressure in tyres?
Post by: Jon The Bassist on January 13, 2015, 03:19 PM
It's not the tyre. Normal (butyl) inner tubes leak air very slowly. Some other types of rubber (eg latex) leak a lot faster. Old butyl tubes can leak a lot faster. IME a lot of tubes without punctures start to leak around where the valve joins the rest of the tube.
Title: Re: What keeps the pressure in tyres?
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on January 13, 2015, 03:54 PM
Where do you keep the bike? If it's kept in a warm room, the tubes lose pressure too, especially if they were blown up using a high pressure or electric pump  :)
Title: Re: What keeps the pressure in tyres?
Post by: griff on January 13, 2015, 04:12 PM
If they're 80s tyres then you really shouldn't be using modern air to pump them up - this can be very dangerous (remember the cross ply / radial public service films?*

Get yourself some NOS air - available from reputable retailers and the internets
(http://www.skspeed.com/images-dyn/ProductImages/Thumb/N2314745.jpg)






* here's that radial/cross ply film for anyone too young to remember  :2gunsfiring_v1:
Title: Re: What keeps the pressure in tyres?
Post by: McQUEEN on January 15, 2015, 11:10 AM
Where do you keep the bike? If it's kept in a warm room, the tubes lose pressure too, especially if they were blown up using a high pressure or electric pump  :)

The bikes are all kept in my office which is always above 19degress. I use an old fashioned hand pump (saves me an arm work out down the gym?!) I have three others built up and these tyres don't lose their pressure...

I swapped out again the inner tubes, pumped them and left them underwater in the bath. Nothing to see to begin with (i.e. not like a full on puncture where bubbles form and come out straight away) and then after a few hours noticed bubbles forming around the seam with the valve....
Title: Re: What keeps the pressure in tyres?
Post by: McQUEEN on January 15, 2015, 11:11 AM
so its bad inner tubes. from Halfords.
Title: Re: What keeps the pressure in tyres?
Post by: McQUEEN on January 15, 2015, 11:12 AM
If they're 80s tyres then you really shouldn't be using modern air to pump them up - this can be very dangerous (remember the cross ply / radial public service films?*

Get yourself some NOS air - available from reputable retailers and the internets
(http://www.skspeed.com/images-dyn/ProductImages/Thumb/N2314745.jpg)






* here's that radial/cross ply film for anyone too young to remember  :2gunsfiring_v1:
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 :wtf:

i've been putting nitrogen in my GTR tyres for awhile that works fine......


i wish!

Title: Re: What keeps the pressure in tyres?
Post by: ED209 on January 15, 2015, 11:13 AM
 :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: What keeps the pressure in tyres?
Post by: bigfatolly on January 17, 2015, 11:29 PM
Halfords Inner Tubes are carp,I bought one that was flat within a day
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