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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: Mikku on January 17, 2015, 09:11 AM
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Another year, another build! I’ve been on the look-out for an 80s Free Agent for some time and recently picked this one up from the States. It’s an early frame set (the 8-digit serial - on the non-drive side dropout - is 1284****) so was either built by VDC or the Shoups in Beuna Park, California in Dec 1984. I’m leaning towards the latter as I think VDC were shutting up shop around that time. At first I thought the unusual colour was a spray-bomb job but now I’m not so sure, as I think the decals are era-correct and are also in the condition you’d expect after 30 years. I’m therefore wondering whether this may have been a special paint job for a customer or even a factory team rider. In any case, I like it! :daumenhoch:
The tt length is 19 1/8” from centre of the headtube tube to the centre of the seat mast so I think that makes it a Pro. There is no chainstay brace.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA2nd029.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA2nd029.jpg.html)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA2nd016.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA2nd016.jpg.html)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA085.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA085.jpg.html)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA079.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA079.jpg.html)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA061.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA061.jpg.html)
The bars, which I think are genuine FA pro bars (27 ½” wide with a rise of 8 9/16” to the centre of the stem area), are also green - not quite a matching shade, though not far off.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA045.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA045.jpg.html)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA096.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA096.jpg.html)
Anyone got any thoughts on any or all of the above?
Thanks! :daumenhoch:
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Wow, good score, never seen one that colour. Not sure if yours is a pro length though, my un-braced chainstay pro is 19.75tt.
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Nice find mate, patience paid off for you.
Enjoy the build ;)
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Thanks for the comments guys!
Not sure if yours is a pro length though, my un-braced chainstay pro is 19.75tt.
What year is yours Ben? From what I've been reading the tt seemed to vary a bit on the earlier Pros. In any case it's longer than my Laserlite! :daumenhoch:
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Really like that, great patina :coolsmiley:
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Really like that, great patina :coolsmiley:
Cheers! Yeah, that's what drew my attention to it in the first place. I knew was taking a bit of a gamble with the paintwork but the bars swung it for me, plus I was able to justify the additional shipping costs to Japan by doing a deal on some other parts and getting a few other bits and bobs sent over in the same box! :daumenhoch:
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Mine's an '88.
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great frames :daumenhoch:
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Cool 8)
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Sweet find... nice survivor build coming up i hope. ;)
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Sweet find... nice survivor build coming up i hope. ;)
I've got enough silver and black bits lying around to build it up and see what it looks and rides like. Mostly era-correct-ish, with the exception of this DK stem - http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,179815.0.html - but that's all I've got at the moment so it'll have to do. :daumenhoch:
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So here's what I've got and am therefore thinking of at the moment:-
the afore-mentioned DK stem;
DK seat post clamp;
Araya 7X with sealed Suzue hubs & Suntour freewheel;
Jaguar seat;
rear Dia-Compe 890, tech 3 lever and cable;
re-pro A'me cams;
Tioga/Sugino opc;
Tioga CD disc;
Victor beartraps (the older ones);
used Izumi chain (on its way from Blighty);
the old, no-name layback that was on my Laserlite (if I didn't chuck it out);
some new Panaracers from Natsukashi (if I can't find something 2ndhand).
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA%203rd%2001.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA%203rd%2001.jpg.html)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA%203rd%2009.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA%203rd%2009.jpg.html)
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Oh yes. Looking good. Would like to see a 3 piece crank on it though.
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Oh yes. Looking good. Would like to see a 3 piece crank on it though.
3-piece cranks are for posers! ;D I only say that because I always wanted some 401s bitd but could never afford them! :daumenhoch: So for the time being, the cheap 'n' cheerful opc it is.
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Nice frame and fork, I really like these.
An interesting thread on the history can be found here...
http://www.bmxsociety.com/topic/23945-the-start-of-free-agent/
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Lovely frame set Mick. I'm also liking the patina and the colour really grows on you :daumenhoch:
I may have some good used 2nd gen and 3rd gen comp III's that would be era correct for that. I will look and let you know buddy :)
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Thanks for the comments guys, and lmk about those tyres Terry! :daumenhoch:
That FA thread is really interesting!! I knew the story about Voris Dixon starting it up but what I'm not clear about, and that thread doesn't really help with, is when VDC stopped and Brad Shoup (Brent Shoup's father) started building the frame sets. Since VD sold up in '85 I'm guessing that it was around then but who knows! If you haven't read it before, the full interview with VD is here:- http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=5838
Also, whilst surfing the Museum last night, I noticed this green Street Beat in the latest batch of submitted bikes:- http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/skyway/79812
Looking through the other Skyways on there, it seems that green was a stock colour on the '85 Street Beats and since it looks a very similar green to that on the FA, I'm wondering if the og owner saw and liked the look of the Skyway green and ordered the same colour for the FA. That would tie-in date-wise, since the FA was made in Dec '84 and therefore probably sold in '85. All speculation I know, but it makes for a good story! ;D
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Well after a year’s hiatus, it’s time to resurrect this build thread! After several near misses with other brands and choices, these tyres finally landed on my doorstep this week:-
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/BMX%20Stuff/post%20and%20tyres%20010.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/BMX%20Stuff/post%20and%20tyres%20010.jpg.html)
They’re NOS Cheng Shin comp 3s, which I think are perfect for the budget racer look I’m aiming for with this bike. In the year since my last post a few of the other parts have changed, including the round-top DK stem for an earlier square-top version, and the repop A’mes for a pair of used Winner Circle grips off an ’84 Mongoose Cali. I also managed to find the crusty, old, layback post that came on my Laserlite! More pics and build updates to follow in due course. I’m hoping to get this baby back on the road in March, though given progress to date, I’m not making any promises!! :daumenhoch:
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Looking forward to seeing this built up Mick... I've got one i'll putting together soon. :daumenhoch:
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That's a nice early combo you have there, love Freeagents me , really sorted geometry, ride lovely :smitten:
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I've got one i'll putting together soon. :daumenhoch:
Tell me more!
That's a nice early combo you have there, love Freeagents me , really sorted geometry, ride lovely :smitten:
Cheers Andy! I'd be after your Renthals for it had I not already got the FA pro bars! :daumenhoch:
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Freeagents came in a few colours as standard but you could special order any colour you liked from them
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I've got one i'll putting together soon. :daumenhoch:
Tell me more!
All will be revealed young man... but here's a little peek. ;)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/CustardLips/BMX/20160220_115753_zpskejnurjk.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/CustardLips/media/BMX/20160220_115753_zpskejnurjk.jpg.html)
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That looks tasty! "wantit" So going by the block font lettering, that's a newer one than mine - what year is it?
Freeagents came in a few colours as standard but you could special order any colour you liked from them
So having not seen any others, the green could've been a special order paint job then.
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Freeagents came in a few colours as standard but you could special order any colour you liked from them
That's nice to know... any idea what the standard colours were ?
Mine's not og paint but it'll be staying that way for while cos i like it. :daumenhoch:
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GT made 1990 according to nosepickben. :daumenhoch:
Got an og decal set for it too. ;)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/CustardLips/BMX/20160220_123146_zpsvhk8rvrj.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/CustardLips/media/BMX/20160220_123146_zpsvhk8rvrj.jpg.html)
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Nice! Look forward to seeing the big reveal! :daumenhoch:
Going back to og colours, I've seen a few in white, red and baby blue to make me feel that they may have been the "stock" ones offered but that's just a guess. Plus I'm only talking about the 80s frames - my knowledge thereafter becomes even less reliable! :D
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I've got one i'll putting together soon. :daumenhoch:
Tell me more!
That's a nice early combo you have there, love Freeagents me , really sorted geometry, ride lovely :smitten:
Cheers Andy! I'd be after your Renthals for it had I not already got the FA pro bars! :daumenhoch:
Those early FA bars are pretty special, not many about.........
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Looks sweet, and defo looks OG to me. Looking forward to seeing the end result. I love the colour, especially for a race bike, that would have really stood out in 84! :daumenhoch:
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I have a soft spot for Limo's. For me they were the start of true mid school as their geometry was so ahead of its time. In the late 80's they also did a yellow with blue decals as can be seen in the pic below. If there is one pic that symbolises the birth of Mid School it has to be this. A limo and a Mad Dog getting thrashed around a track in jeans and sweaters. :daumenhoch:
(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/563fcf7ce4b03996706dd449/t/563fd5a1e4b0da6b9b6bdfce/1447025064799/tumblr_nqd7uaZh4c1r31wzpo1_1280.png)
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While were at it..........
My 87 Pro long, 21"tt no brace behind the bb, set up for o/s racing.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/pp160/andyrooski/185814_1861568661603_2290333_n_zps7yr7jrlu.jpg) (http://s407.photobucket.com/user/andyrooski/media/185814_1861568661603_2290333_n_zps7yr7jrlu.jpg.html)
My 87, Bettys 91, and Bens 91? at MK
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/pp160/andyrooski/1374328_10201984433755081_205023232_n_zpsmrrvogn0.jpg) (http://s407.photobucket.com/user/andyrooski/media/1374328_10201984433755081_205023232_n_zpsmrrvogn0.jpg.html)
Riding shot :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/pp160/andyrooski/267710_10150288110189810_6181014_n_zps0siv8lq2.jpg) (http://s407.photobucket.com/user/andyrooski/media/267710_10150288110189810_6181014_n_zps0siv8lq2.jpg.html)
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Red, chrome ,white and baby blue were the main ones .The original baby blue I had was chrome underneath when I stripped it.A lot came with chrome forks as well.
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All these pics are inspiring me to finish mine and ride the bugger! Thanks for the inspiration lads! :daumenhoch:
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All these pics are inspiring me to finish mine and ride the bugger! Thanks for the inspiration lads! :daumenhoch:
They're making me wanna get mine repowdered. :LolLolLolLol:
Liking the yellow one. :chin:
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So the FA's almost done....finally!! Need to make a few minor changes and take some better pics when the sun comes out, but here are a few from an initial shakedown ride at the weekend.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA%20Apr%2006.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA%20Apr%2006.jpg.html)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA%20Apr%2009.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA%20Apr%2009.jpg.html)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/Trident393/Free%20Agent/FA%20Apr%2010.jpg) (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/Trident393/media/Free%20Agent/FA%20Apr%2010.jpg.html)
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Absolutely loving that Mik! the colour looks awesome and can't beat the scenery either :daumenhoch:
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Cheers mate! The colour was one of the main reasons why I bought it! :daumenhoch:
More scenery shots to follow!
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Very nice, even with a one-piece!
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Very nice, even with a one-piece!
Oi, less of that 3-piece snobbery or I'll send some yakuza over! :2gunsfiring_v1:
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;D yeah sorry about that! It's a cracking bike that. Great colour, as others have said. :daumenhoch:
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Love it!
Top job dude!
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Thanks for the comments guys! Better pics to follow when the sunshine coincides with a weekend! :daumenhoch:
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Finally got some weekend sunshine to play in:-
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,186964.0.html
Mick
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Very nice. :coolsmiley: