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Title: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: oldschoolace on January 18, 2015, 05:19 PM
The excitement of finding my vitus soon turned into despair when it became apparent the GT seatpost in it was well and truly stuck  >:(

After going through the usual gambit of oil soaking, twisting with an old stem etc i put it aside resign to the fact that one day i was going to have to take more drastic measures which would probably ruin the original chrome and possibly the whole frame as it is very light and probably not that resilient to being knocked about.
I could see the whole frame wanting to twist when i had the seatpost in a vice  :shocked:

Over christmas i had time to thing about it a bit more and made plans for a bit of home brew engineeering  :)

The first and most important bit was to carefully drill a neat hole in a block of aluminium with a 1 inch diameter on one side and a 7/8th diameter on the other with a defined step where the two met.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0983_zpsbc52904a.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0983_zpsbc52904a.jpg.html)


The other side was drilled to house 4 threaded rods


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0984_zps2d9e9adc.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0984_zps2d9e9adc.jpg.html)


Next i drilled another block right through with a 7/8th bit and drilled and threaded 4 holes for the threaded rod


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0986_zps48dbae26.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0986_zps48dbae26.jpg.html)


This was then drilled thought the side to accept a 6mm steel rod and mounted over the very top of the stuck post. The side holes were used as guides to drill through the post.


When assembled the whole set looked like this


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0964_zps5e8d3c11.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0964_zps5e8d3c11.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0961_zps6d3a26ab.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0961_zps6d3a26ab.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0960_zps57cda49c.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0960_zps57cda49c.jpg.html)


Turning the nuts half a turn at a time and working my way round the jig took up the slack and with a few alarmingly loud cracks and pings the masking tape told me the good news and the post had started to move. Ten minutes later the post was out  :daumenhoch:


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0968_zpsfc9e7729.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0968_zpsfc9e7729.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0966_zpscdae3019.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0966_zpscdae3019.jpg.html)


The block were cut as thick as they were for strength and to support the very top of the seat tube which is obviously weaker with the keyhole slot. The top of the seat tube was left unmarked (appart from the previous owners attempts to remove the tube)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0978_zpsc82a08e3.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0978_zpsc82a08e3.jpg.html)


A close up of the bottom block seated on the seat tube.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0970_zpscc402528.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0970_zpscc402528.jpg.html)

The hole through the seat tube hardly deformed under the pressure  :daumenhoch:


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0987_zps2039c0ec.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0987_zps2039c0ec.jpg.html)


Well happy  :daumenhoch:

Could possibly post this on if anyone wants a try a bit like the rim jig, would have to come up with some more detailed instructions first though  :)
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: pickle on January 18, 2015, 05:22 PM
 :4_17_5: superb work there! That's amazing mate
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: snoopy72 on January 18, 2015, 05:24 PM
I like that  :4_17_5: saved blisters from the old hacksaw blade trick and the risk of cutting into the frame.

Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: wildon on January 18, 2015, 05:25 PM
Brilliant  :coolsmiley:  :daumenhoch:  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: rodriguez on January 18, 2015, 05:34 PM
Brilliant   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: Munnyella on January 18, 2015, 05:37 PM
top bodgin!! simple and effective. well done!

MM
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: Dannywhac on January 18, 2015, 05:42 PM
That is fookin ace Clint  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: chubby on January 18, 2015, 05:59 PM
Not a cannon then  :-\

Marvellous bit of bodgery Clint, fookin amazes me where all these ideas come from.........


Perhaps I should stop killing my brain cells with cider n fags  :chin:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: snoopy72 on January 18, 2015, 06:02 PM
Not a cannon then  :-\

Marvellous bit of bodgery Clint, fookin amazes me where all these ideas come from.........


Perhaps I should stop killing my brain cells with cider n fags  :chin:
Swap them for Tuna and maxi muscle before it's too late :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: Bfellows on January 18, 2015, 06:03 PM
Lovely bit of tinkering  ;D i find that anything seized often responds to being "shocked" out so to speak, rather than building up a steady pressure.  Take up the slack, put it under tension, warm the frame post with a heat gun, then give it a belt.......
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: chubby on January 18, 2015, 06:04 PM
Not a cannon then  :-\

Marvellous bit of bodgery Clint, fookin amazes me where all these ideas come from.........


Perhaps I should stop killing my brain cells with cider n fags  :chin:
Swap it for Tuna and maxi muscle  :daumenhoch:


Think I'd rather carry on killing em snoop  :teef:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: snoopy72 on January 18, 2015, 06:06 PM
Lovely bit of tinkering  ;D i find that anything seized often responds to being "shocked" out so to speak, rather than building up a steady pressure.  Take up the slack, put it under tension, warm the frame post with a heat gun, then give it a belt.......
I tend to buy a frame without the seat post still in it  :LolLolLolLol:
Makes me want to buy one with a stuck seat post now.
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: insectbones on January 18, 2015, 06:30 PM
Brilliant idea  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: BMX1973 on January 18, 2015, 07:15 PM
Great bit of engineering.  :4_17_5:

I bet you get a few radsters wanting to borrow that.
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: bmxband1t77 on January 18, 2015, 11:31 PM
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Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: griff on January 19, 2015, 01:27 AM
Top bodging Clinton  :4_17_5:
I bet it couldn't shift 'Excalibur' from my silverfox though
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: Taipan on January 19, 2015, 09:25 AM
 :4_17_5:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: oldschoolace on January 19, 2015, 10:11 AM
Top bodging Clinton  :4_17_5:
I bet it couldn't shift 'Excalibur' from my silverfox though

stick a pic up Griff, let's have a look  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on January 19, 2015, 02:00 PM
That's excellent Clint. Well done  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: In2bmx on January 19, 2015, 02:29 PM
Awesome  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: Jaymz on January 19, 2015, 06:37 PM
Awesome as always
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: Sid1972 on January 19, 2015, 06:43 PM
Awesome!! Could double a penis enlarger also.  :-\
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: Discostu on January 19, 2015, 07:46 PM
Awesome work yet again.  :4_17_5: :4_17_5: :4_17_5: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: nosepickben on January 19, 2015, 08:24 PM
Very good work!! I like. 
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: kalex on January 21, 2015, 07:09 PM
excellent job
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: region11 on January 23, 2015, 10:18 AM
Wow  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: oldschoolace on February 06, 2015, 04:39 PM
Remembered a crappy old frame I had thrown behind the shed with a stuck post. Thought I would have a go for a bit of r&d....... 2 for 2 on the removal jig  :)
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: MartyC on February 07, 2015, 01:18 PM
Genius!  Top bombing!
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: steve69 on February 07, 2015, 10:31 PM
That's a pretty impressive contraption you've made there  :coolsmiley:

I'm surprised it hasn't put a flat on the top tube with the pushing down forces (while pulling up)
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: babarnum on February 07, 2015, 10:53 PM
Really great! Well Done :4_17_5:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: NORTY40 on February 07, 2015, 11:05 PM
Nice one Clint  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: oldschoolace on February 07, 2015, 11:55 PM
That's a pretty impressive contraption you've made there  :coolsmiley:

I'm surprised it hasn't put a flat on the top tube with the pushing down forces (while pulling up)

It looks deceptive in the photos but the bottom block clears the top tube be about 15-20mm
All the force is exerted down the seat mast, perfectly vertically so there is no danger of it distorting the mast  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: griff on February 08, 2015, 12:45 AM
Top bodging Clinton  :4_17_5:
I bet it couldn't shift 'Excalibur' from my silverfox though

stick a pic up Griff, let's have a look  :daumenhoch:

No pics, but plenty tried (& failed) to get it out
Is a renthal though so has bonded itself to the steel  ::)
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: oldschoolace on February 08, 2015, 01:51 AM
Challenge accepted  ;)
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: CustardLips on February 08, 2015, 02:50 AM
Awesome work again Clint. Your next task... building one for a layback.  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: Bfellows on February 08, 2015, 09:44 AM
Top bodging Clinton  :4_17_5:
I bet it couldn't shift 'Excalibur' from my silverfox though

stick a pic up Griff, let's have a look  :daumenhoch:

No pics, but plenty tried (& failed) to get it out
Is a renthal though so has bonded itself to the steel  ::)

Griff, have you tried bunging the bottom of the tube and pouring caustic soda solution down the post?  I'm sure aluminium oxide is attacked by alkali solutions?  Might be enough to free things up.......
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: Mat on February 08, 2015, 12:47 PM
Ive been commissioned by my martian friends to build a bridge from Withington to Mars, & I've put you forward as chief engineer. :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: fischflo on February 10, 2015, 10:35 AM
now that's pure genius! :shocked:      i wonder you... :D
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: Jaan on February 10, 2015, 06:50 PM
Top skills Clint, top skills  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: Macmania on February 17, 2015, 06:25 PM
Ingenious  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: sawzall on February 17, 2015, 06:27 PM
great work clint :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: wilsey72 on August 19, 2015, 04:01 PM
Pure Genius.

 :bow:

Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: oldschoolace on September 01, 2015, 06:09 PM
Spent my lunch shaving a few mm off the jig here and there so the whole shooting match plus instructions comes in under the Royal mail 2kg weight bracket.
If anyone needs help it should cost around £3 to post out  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: griff on September 01, 2015, 07:15 PM
Top bodging Clinton  :4_17_5:
I bet it couldn't shift 'Excalibur' from my silverfox though

stick a pic up Griff, let's have a look  :daumenhoch:

No pics, but plenty tried (& failed) to get it out
Is a renthal though so has bonded itself to the steel  ::)

Griff, have you tried bunging the bottom of the tube and pouring caustic soda solution down the post?  I'm sure aluminium oxide is attacked by alkali solutions?  Might be enough to free things up.......

No, because the bike's set up very nicely and that would mean pulling it all apart (& I'm a lazy fooker)
And sold the gt layback that was going to go in there
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: oldschoolace on September 01, 2015, 07:20 PM
Come on Griff let have that fooker out once and for all  :D
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: griff on September 01, 2015, 07:51 PM
Come on Griff let have that fooker out once and for all  :D

Maybe mk16 if I can be arsed
Tbh it's grown on me, little things like the fact it had to be oven prided in situ and even dordy couldn't pull it out have given it some sentimental value
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: oldschoolace on September 01, 2015, 07:59 PM
Can soon knock up a presentation cabinet for it. Or it can share Rich's snake post cabinet  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: griff on September 01, 2015, 08:03 PM
Can soon knock up a presentation cabinet for it. Or it can share Rich's snake post cabinet  :LolLolLolLol:

I've still got to do something for the elina one that went in the fire at mk11 ;)
Was going to use it to display socky!
Title: Re: An old foe slain forever ***removing a stuck steel seatpost***
Post by: oldschoolace on September 01, 2015, 09:32 PM
While I think on I think it's only fair that this jig is available to site supporters only.  :)
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