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Title: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: oldschoolace on January 31, 2015, 01:27 PM
Hiya Gents  :)

Got these lovelies recently from thebigdog and as you can see they need a little tlc.

Im planning on removing the cages to reshape and re-anno and use countersunk allen machine screws to remount them.
Hopefully they should look a little like the KKT LMX's as in the second pic  :daumenhoch:

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1103_zpsbzilklbh.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1103_zpsbzilklbh.jpg.html)

(http://www.helixbmx.net/extra_pics/pedals/kkt_lmx_red_2.jpg)

I know the "rivets" are actually part of the pedal body casting and are just mushroomed over to hold the cage on. The plan is to remove the mushroom but leave the nub to locate the cage on then just secure with an M3 allen machine screw  :daumenhoch:


What would be really usefull is a clear centred shot from above of a tidy pedal so i can make a wooden former to reshape mine. Anyone feeling photographical?  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: CustardLips on January 31, 2015, 01:36 PM
Can get a pic if some MKS foot jaws Clint if that's any good to ya.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: oldschoolace on January 31, 2015, 01:39 PM
Cheers our kid, are they a similar end shape do you know?
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: CustardLips on January 31, 2015, 01:44 PM
Almost identical... just uploading em to pb.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: CustardLips on January 31, 2015, 03:07 PM
Is this what your after Clint ?

(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q565/CustardLips/BMX/20150131_133812_zps16a8df5d.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/CustardLips/media/BMX/20150131_133812_zps16a8df5d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: oldschoolace on January 31, 2015, 03:33 PM
Bob on that Nick, cheers squire :)
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: Devilock on January 31, 2015, 03:34 PM
I have some NOS gold ones if you want a pic later after work...?
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: oldschoolace on January 31, 2015, 04:02 PM
More the merrier Rich, cheers mate  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: MartyC on February 01, 2015, 02:42 AM
Have a look at this thread on Ozbmx for some inspiration for pedal restoration...

http://www.ozbmx.com.au/index.php'showtopic=63773

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: oldschoolace on February 17, 2015, 03:02 PM
Got 5 mins to myself today so decided to remove the cages  :)

I started by centre punching and drilling a 2.5mm hole through the middle of the rivets, deep enough to receive the M3 countersunk allen machine screws. Its important not to drill too deep as there is a chance the hole could come through the narrow section of the body

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/DSC_1130_zpsjfkhocgp.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/DSC_1130_zpsjfkhocgp.jpg.html)


Next using a 4.5mm bit i drilled through the rivet head leaving a fine ring of the head remaining. The holes in the cages are 5mm  :daumenhoch:

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/DSC_1133_zpstlb7fgon.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/DSC_1133_zpstlb7fgon.jpg.html)


The rings were easily removed with a gentle tap with a flat screwdriver or something similar.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/DSC_1132_zpseql6xhln.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/DSC_1132_zpseql6xhln.jpg.html)


The cages were removed using a small piece of timber to pry and/or tap apart from the body. The nubs were filed flat with enough left on to relocate the cages once restored.

(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/DSC_1136_zpst97aczhu.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/DSC_1136_zpst97aczhu.jpg.html)


Next job is to reshape, file and polish the cages ready for anno  :)
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: thebigdog on February 17, 2015, 03:20 PM
Good work so far  :daumenhoch: Should come up a treat once done  :)
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: oldschoolace on February 24, 2015, 06:36 PM
Another early finish, another chance to do a bit of resto.

Managed to cut a few oak formers and set about gently hammering the makings of the original shape.



(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1162_zpsjqomhxgj.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1162_zpsjqomhxgj.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1163_zpssd9k28in.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1163_zpssd9k28in.jpg.html)


offered up to check the hammering isnt stretching the cage.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1164_zpsxu7zfnap.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1164_zpsxu7zfnap.jpg.html)



Next job filing  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: BMX1973 on February 26, 2015, 10:11 AM
Looking great so far.  :)
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: Monk_Wally_Honk on February 26, 2015, 12:38 PM
Yes, fantastic.
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: MartyC on February 27, 2015, 03:58 AM
Great work, liking the oak formers  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: NORTY40 on February 27, 2015, 10:14 AM
Nice one Clint ...... agree with Marty, them Oak pedal cage formers are cool  8)
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: CustardLips on February 27, 2015, 11:27 AM
Coming on them Clint.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: oldschoolace on February 27, 2015, 01:35 PM
Nearly there with the cages. Countersunk the rivet holes for the machine screws and restored as much of the teeth shape as was practicle without filing too much of the body away.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1172_zpsnzat8jsn.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1172_zpsnzat8jsn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: griff on February 27, 2015, 02:52 PM


When you're done you can make another set by simply running some spindles in the wooden bits  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: Jaan on February 27, 2015, 06:31 PM


When you're done you can make another set by simply running some spindles in the wooden bits  :daumenhoch:

Love your ecological thinking there Griff
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: Jaan on February 27, 2015, 06:31 PM
and Clint, I never tire of admiring your skills  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: oldschoolace on March 04, 2015, 06:59 PM
Got 2 items in the post today, a shiney new M3 bottom tap and my cages back from Jay (anodiser chick)
A cracking service that i would happily recommend  :daumenhoch:


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1177_zpsswekfns9.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1177_zpsswekfns9.jpg.html)


Stripped, filed and soft polished the bodies over lunch today as well as clean all the movey bits. With any luck they should be finished tomorrow  :)
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: CustardLips on March 04, 2015, 07:14 PM
Look great them Clint.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: griff on March 04, 2015, 08:13 PM
They look brilliant Clint  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: Bfellows on March 04, 2015, 09:00 PM
Oooooh get you you clever bugger  ;) nice work fella.
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: rodriguez on March 04, 2015, 09:11 PM
Definitely a master restorer   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: NORTY40 on March 05, 2015, 03:20 PM
Enjoyed the chat today Clint , time flies when your talking kids bikes  :D

Didn't enjoy the fact it took me 20 mins to find somewhere to park  ::)

Cages look great  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals
Post by: thebigdog on March 05, 2015, 03:35 PM
Came up a treat they did :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: oldschoolace on March 05, 2015, 06:54 PM
Once Joff had been ( thought he would never go  :LolLolLolLol: ) i got the threads tapped and tried a screw for size. offering up the egde of a cage it was evident the screws were going to sit proud of the cage so i had to countersing the body nubs.


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1181_zpserjdtnpb.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1181_zpserjdtnpb.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1182_zpsjuq3qzcb.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1182_zpsjuq3qzcb.jpg.html)


Well pleased with the final result  :daumenhoch:


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1189_zpsuyipszx1.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1189_zpsuyipszx1.jpg.html)



(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1186_zpsp9h32sqe.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1186_zpsp9h32sqe.jpg.html)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1185_zpslq3copnk.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1185_zpslq3copnk.jpg.html)




And a before and after shot  ;)


(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1103_zpsbzilklbh.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1103_zpsbzilklbh.jpg.html)
(http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1184_zps7rorr28v.jpg) (http://s1182.photobucket.com/user/oldschoolace/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1184_zps7rorr28v.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: griff on March 05, 2015, 07:27 PM
 :4_17_5:

Still want to see what you can do with the wooden pedals  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: CustardLips on March 05, 2015, 07:37 PM
Now that's how to restore a set of pedals.  :4_17_5:
Top work again Clint.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: Macmania on March 05, 2015, 07:43 PM
Superb  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 05, 2015, 07:44 PM
excellent piece of work, well done.. love threads like this  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: BMX1973 on March 05, 2015, 07:48 PM
Great  :4_17_5: Worthy of any show build.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: kdw712 on March 05, 2015, 07:50 PM
Amazing work  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: oldschoolace on March 05, 2015, 08:30 PM
Cheers lads  :)
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: brummie on March 05, 2015, 08:36 PM
 "wantit"
wanna do mine bud
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: Gary72 on March 05, 2015, 11:47 PM
Cracking job :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: Taipan on March 06, 2015, 12:58 AM
   #skills  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: senzo milano on March 06, 2015, 05:45 AM
 :4_17_5:  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: thebigdog on March 06, 2015, 09:23 AM
 :4_17_5: Yeah top work  :daumenhoch:

Can i buy em back for the price i sold them for  :LolLolLolLol: :-*
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: NORTY40 on March 06, 2015, 10:06 AM
Got to be happy with those Clint , a job well done mate  8)
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: Jaan on March 06, 2015, 10:10 AM
I think i'm getting a man crush on you Clint - top skills  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: hokuspokus74 on March 06, 2015, 06:56 PM
another good resto project great skills :daumenhoch: were do you get the machine allen screws etc ive a set of them i wouldnt mind trying to restore,prob bollocks it up but worth a try :D
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: snoopy72 on March 06, 2015, 07:12 PM
I like skills, really good read  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: oldschoolace on March 06, 2015, 07:32 PM
another good resto project great skills :daumenhoch: were do you get the machine allen screws etc ive a set of them i wouldnt mind trying to restore,prob bollocks it up but worth a try :D

Just got a packet of 25 off the bay for a few bob. Deffo need a pillar drill though. Would recommend every radster had one  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: animal on March 06, 2015, 08:14 PM
There it is  :4_17_5: Restore and feel blessed  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: steve69 on March 06, 2015, 09:05 PM
I think you shouldn't have bothered as I have a 'wanted' ad up for pedal spindles, it could have saved you a lot of time just parting them out  ::)



Other than that, fantastic job  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: Jaypeg on March 06, 2015, 09:07 PM
A great resto, quality work bud.
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: region11 on March 06, 2015, 10:03 PM
excellent job  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: senzo milano on March 12, 2015, 09:42 PM
Yes really good work  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: Funkyworm on March 12, 2015, 10:00 PM
Great job, Love a refurb me !
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: Pooch on March 16, 2015, 06:54 AM
Very nice👍
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: insectbones on March 16, 2015, 10:46 AM
Top bodging skills  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: pickle on March 16, 2015, 12:39 PM
WOW!  :shocked:  amazing work there, we have some proper talented guys on this forum  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: Taipan on March 16, 2015, 01:08 PM
Superb result fella  :4_17_5:

 I agree with Pickle theres some seriously talented people on this forum  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: CurtisEXP on March 17, 2015, 07:17 PM
Agreed. Top skills  :daumenhoch:
Love a set of KKT Lightnings.
Title: Re: Restoring KKT Lightning pedals (finished pics added 5 march)
Post by: kalex on March 17, 2015, 10:49 PM
superb job

well done  :4_17_5:
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